Government Planning an October ‘Firebreak’ if Hospital Admissions Remain at Current Level
The Government has drawn up plans for an October ‘firebreak’ if hospitalisations continue at their current level and threaten to overload the NHS, a senior Government scientist has said. The odd thing about this statement is that at present hospitalisations are a fraction of what they were at the beginning of the year (see above). The i has more.
The member of the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) said the UK is about to enter “an extended peak” of infections and hospitalisations, which are in danger of pushing the NHS beyond breaking point and could force the Government to re-introduce restrictions over the school half term period at the end of next month.
A full lockdown is unlikely and would be a last resort, but there are a range of measures the government could introduce.
“This is essentially the precautionary break that SAGE suggested last year,” said the SAGE source. “It would be sensible to have contingency plans, and if a lockdown is required, to time it so that it has minimal economic and societal impact.”
The Government scientist added that while Covid deaths are significantly higher than at the same point 12 months ago, they would have to rise fivefold to match those experienced in late October last year.
“We are going to be at a peak, albeit an extended peak, quite soon, so it’s not really the same situation as last year, when failure to reduce prevalence would have resulted in collapse of NHS and people dying in car parks,” he added.
“Hospitals might be overflowing before deaths reach the same level. Acting early will prevent this level.”
It is understood that the Government’s contingency plan for a ‘firebreak’ lockdown could lead to an extension of the half-term, from one week for most schools to two weeks from late October into early November.
Worth reading in full.
The fact that the Government is already drawing up plans for a lockdown in October, albeit a mini one, gives the lie to the argument that the reason we should bring in vaccine passports and immunise children is to avoid another lockdown.
Stop Press: Depressingly, the public have already resigned themselves to another bout of school closures. According to the latest Ipsos MORI poll, 45% think it’s likely the Government will close schools again versus 26% who think it’s unlikely.
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This is either an admission that the NHS isn’t fit for purpose, if the current level of hospitalisations can overload it, or a recognition that the unions in the NHS are running the country, not the Government.
Of course there is another possibility – that something much more sinister is going on. But I know we don’t like to talk about sinister things or conspiracies here so I will just leave it there.
“This is either an admission that the NHS isn’t fit for purpose,”
Of course it’s not fit for purpose, if as soon as numbers of supposed infections (“cases”) go up they start sending half their staff home to “isolate”.
This process really does have to stop. Covid’s IFR isn’t that dissimilar to flu but did they send staff home when there was a flu outbreak? It made a bad situation (limited number of beds) catastrophically bad. From memory, if you looked at the country as a whole, they never ran out of beds but they certainly ran out of staff.
The government also had to step in to force the primary trusts to start talking to each other and moving people between areas. Did it really need the boss to step in to do something that they should be doing already?
I often say the NHS is staff by angels but run by middle managers who couldn’t arrange a p**s up in a brewery.
Every single winter the NHS whinge about not coping whilst their consultants, surgeons and doctors go on their winter holidays, whoops I meant conferences.
NHS management has been useless – but at the behest of this government (currently right wing and Tory – although the 2000s Labour governments have previous responsibility) that has political control – not least in appointments to key roles. It’s interesting how many here avoid this obvious factor.
The NHS is marxist health, marxism doesn’t work, so why to we expect it to work when it rations treatment?
The NHS was the great experiment but it really is time to review whether it’s actually working and stop our love affair with it.
Frankly, if we’re not talking about ‘sinister things’ at this stage, we’ve got our heads up our arses.
The NHS hasn’t been fit for purpose since the late 1970s. There is no other institution in the world that was founded in 1947 and has survived, successfully, without major structural change. The world of medicine has changed beyond measure in the past 70+ years, but the system that administers our health service has not changed at all. Yes, there are been myriad re-organisations but all they do is give the same incompetent managers different titles, in a re-named structure and more money. It’s a classic case study of how unions destroy organisations when they control them. With the willing help of management consultants charging very large fees for their re-organisation ‘advice’. If the NHS was a commercial concern it would have gone to the wall years ago. The only reason it is still around is that taxpayers hose it with money because no political party has ever had the balls to sort it out. Their lame excuse is that the “NHS is the envy of the world”. If that was the case why has no other country copied our mistakes? And the most recent cock-up, appointing the previous No.2 to take over as boss. So there’ll be no conceivable… Read more »
but remember those “overwhelmed” hospitals at the start of the thing last year where someone took photographs and they were empty?? we only have their say so that the hospitals can’t cope – same as we only have their say so re the case figures [healthy people queuing up to take a test] and their say so re the numbers of deaths [with covid as opposed to from covid]
I remember a hospital so overwhelmed that there were ambulance jams outside the entrance and I don’t think it was even winter. This was decades ago. The NHS response to capacity problems is to employ more managers rather than medical staff. No wonder it collapses every winter. Oh and don’t forget all the money poured into failed IT projects.
Working in IT, I’d love to read some of the post mortems (!) of those failed IT projects. Would be fascinating if not depressing reading.
It’s an and. The NHS is not fit for purpose AND there is something much more sinister going on.
Dido Harding and her hubby are flogging it off as they need a new kitchen extension, conservatory and new BMW.
A reminder, as if we needed one, that opinion polls are designed to provide the result that the Government wants:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSKwf4AIlI
Omg will these twats never learn!
It should be noted that we have again entered a period of COVID-by-bullshit, ie, a dramatic increase in testing resulting in the illusion of an increase in cases, ie, had testing not increased, case had been falling since about 24th/ 25th of August and would be flatlining now.
We really have to stop testing…
That’s like saying we have to stop selling beer and fags. People love being tested. In fact if they can’t find someone to do it for them, they’ll test themselves!
Depressing isn’t it…
Losing the will to engage with this relentless bullshit. I feel a winston smith moment coming on.
Winston Smith achieved fuck all, just remember that.
Fuck off and die sage nameless cunt.
Aaand right again. Back from their holiday and ready to serve the puppet masters. Give up! You won’t be able to increase the take up by doing this. Thankfully you made a mistake giving people freedom during the summer and therefore the realisation that this is all bullsht.
Quite… cases because of this mad testing regime have stayed pretty high during the summer but nobody is getting ill and nobody has died. In fact, AFAIK, nobody under the age of 60 has died since the very start out of 8,000 people. But the fear is still there what with all the mask wearers 🙁
There’s a new Mu variant that Boris just pulled out of his bag of tricks. That will keep the plebs scared for a while longer. It’s 85% more contagious than the Kent variant that was 77% more contagious than the Wuhan Original. The Kent variant had London and the south-east in Tier 4 over Christmas but just vanished – no-one knows where.
Oh yes, I know where. Nowhere. Because it was just more made-up rubbish to scare the idiots.
“Stop Press: Depressingly, the public have already resigned themselves to another bout of school closures. According to the latest Ipsos MORI poll, 45% think it’s likely the Government will close schools again versus 26% who think it’s unlikely.” And who is to blame for this? First and foremost. the evil, cowardly manipulative teaching unions, ruining children’s education for their own powermongering purposes. Second in line, the cowardly, manipulating, lying government, for caving in to the unions instead of doing their job, of forcing the teachers to do their jobs or get sacked. Third, the teachers themselves for either being cowardly manipulative scumbags or letting their supposed representatives get away with misrepresenting them as such, and letting the price be paid by the children. In the background, all the lying manipulating media and healthcare fearmongers, academics and social media bullshitters, who create and sustain the climate of fear. But finally, in the ultimate analysis, it’s down to all the people of this country who fail to defy and reject the bullshit. It’s not over until we collectively tell them its over. Fool them once, shame on the unions/government/teachers/media/academics/healthcare professionals etc. Fool them twice, and over and over again, shame on them for… Read more »
The Teachers have just been handed 20mths off work on full pay. I guess that’s too good to give up isn’t it whilst they earn £40 an hour doing private tuition online. I want to know what percentage of Teachers have actually been jabbed. Very few I should think. Why should they when they can just dump it all on the children. If the Government don’t stand up to them they will never return to schools again and their lives and education will be totally ruined and their lives totally blighted.
20 months off work? Are you crazy? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
No, s/he doesn’t. But, as an ex-teacher (currently tutoring), we have to resign ourselves that those who are not teachers, or have teachers in the family, have no idea of a teacher’s workload. Can’t speak for primary teachers, but secondary teachers have had to provide online teaching and support all the way through lockdown, and it has been pretty much a stressful, hideous experience for most of them.
Total BS. Parents around here say online learning has been scant and very poor. Stop imposing masks and jabs on children Teachers and get back to what you are paid to do which is to teach children for which, incidentally, you get paid a hell of a lot of money.
As said – Planet Zog. 🙂
Online learning is woefully inadequate but teachers are not to blame for this. We have had to labour under the same bullshit as the children. Closing schools was a political tactic designed to put society under maximum pressure to accept the new economic system (based on vaccines) we all have the financial elite to blame for the many, many problems caused by so-called lockdowns.
Some here are out on Planet Zog as a protection against Covid :-). Of course the small number of downvoters don’t what they’re talking about – they need to get out more and stop complying with government restrictions 🙂
Planet Zog has only one resident and their name Is Rick
Secondary school teacher here – I haven’t had a single day off work throughout the so-called pandemic. We still had to do lessons. What has being jabbed got to do with anything? Dump what on to children exactly? You’re comment seems extremely incoherent and ill-informed. The unions and the teachers are two different things, their histrionics and attention-seeking bullshit have nothing to do with us, I can assure you.
When China takes over, the UK will be full of Chinese kids who have been studying hard, and the uneducated British kids will be told to go and work down the coal mines to work for their new masters.
According to the latest Ipsos MORI poll, 45% think it’s likely the Government will close schools again versus 26% who think it’s unlikely.
So what did Sweden do to enable schools to remain open and not have a problem??? Oh — I suppose they Vaxed all the staff & kids even before the emergency licence was issued.
“And who is to blame for this?”
‘First and foremost’ – actually the Tory government who have paved the way for the union leadership to make hay and that has spread the background of propagandised fear.
Really thick and stupid comments about teachers as ‘cowardly manipulative scumbags’ – just axe grinding rather than analysis.
OK – much of what you say is certainly true but as a secondary school teacher I have to disagree strongly with some of it. there are about 150 teachers at my school of which I would say about 10 are covid zealots. Most just want to do their job, which I might add is an extremely demanding one in terms of time. We have all had to spend the last 18 months adapting our teaching so that we can deliver the same lessons to children remotely and this has been extremely demanding. There has been constant shifting of goalposts by the DfE as to what the expectations are and this has put a lot of pressure on everyone. Please don’t use teachers as some sort of scapegoat – covid bullshit is a psychological campaign against ALL OF US. The unions are living on a different planet and have been exploitative and opportunistic and aren’t helping anyone, least of all children. Imagine being a parent (I am) and having to teach your normal school day from home and look after your own children as well. Yes, we all have to reject the bullshit but teachers have been powerless just like… Read more »
May I take it that you are not a member of any union representing the teaching profession?
You may! I’ve written to the heads of all of them excoriating them for their brainless unscientific mendacity towards children too.
I read somewhere, around 6 or so weeks ago that a Statistician in Europe had calculated that the UK had almost 10 x more Covid than the whole of Europe put together. If I refer back to last year’s figures, and I have to admit I am rather hopeless at Maths, then I think everyone in the UK has either tested positive more than once or everyone has had Covid. The numbers just don’t add up. Is there someone on this site that can do a cursory analysis?
Well considering this apparent virus has been around for coming up 2 years its safe to say they arent testing for infections of any virus. Case numbers are the are only pandemic and they are not real.
Read Joel Smalley on twitter. His info is as clear as a bell.
If you look at the cumulative figures on Our World in Data you can see the comparative data for each country.
A few weeks back, a commentator in the Daily Mail comments mentioned her husband had the printing contract for posters for the November lockdown.
I am not remotely surprised by this.
It won’t make any difference.
It’s funny, when hospitalisations and deaths were way higher in all the previous years before Covid, the NHS just had to get on with it….
Honestly Boris just F off and stop destroying my young daughters education!
Toby, why on earth do you pay heed to opinion polls? They are manipulated and weaponised against the population.
Have these crooks got an exit strategy from these beastly restrictions yet then? Or is that a stupid question?
They’re on a ‘wheel of fortune’ with a seemingly infinite number of spins available to them… why ever would they stop?!
Just one more ‘jab’!
Then another. And another…
I don’t think it’s a useful reading of the situation. What they’re trying to achieve is a new economic system based on digital ID and vaccine status. The head of the World Bank recently said this quite openly. The old fiat monetary system has been in terminal decline since 2008 and I believe the whole charade has been smoke and mirrors to disguise this and achieve a controlled demolition rather than an outright collapse, with an external threat (virus) to blame. Hence the desperation to get everyone (even kids) on board with the programme quickly. If I’m right they will stop at nothing to achieve this even as their policies appear more and more preposterous; it’s existential for them. If they fail (and they are really, really failing) it’s pitchforks and prison or worse for them…
Who is the sage source ?? Is it that bedwetting cunt Edmunds???
Well in a perverse way I should be grateful, as this will put the final damper on my young person considering having the jibber jabber in order to go clubbing, seeing it is becoming apparent there will be no clubbing to go to. Going by the experience of ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’, I wouldn’t put money on us being out of the firebreak before February or so.
I like your optimism! My guess is it will last until the start of summer 2022.
Yes I did think I was being a bit Pollyanna there. But so long as they have managed to cancel Christmas again they may be happy.
They didn’t succeed in cancelling my Christmas last year and they sure ain’t cancelling it for me this year. I intend to carry on living my life free from all evil dictats.
All planned, and going very smoothly.
Agenda 21 and 30 marches inexorably onwards and we continue to ask, ‘why is this happening?’
The playbook has been written. Read it and understand.
As ever with this hoo-haa we seem to get a policy line they wish to peddle and then they pull out the statistics to justify the policy.
We need to see a much clearer and complete analysis of the NHS hospital data e.g.
There needs to be an independent and critical analysis of the NHS situation, if we rely on the NHS themselves they will always be overwhelmed and always need more money.
We need to ask how many NHS frontline staff are actually working. We also need to ask why we are not allowed to film inside hospital wards. We also need to ask how many funerals have taken place. We know that people who have died are automatically recorded as covid cases so we need to talk to the funeral association and the undertakers. Many of whom know very well what is going on.
And how many of them died “with a vaccine” [in the way so many died “with covid”]
The majority of the public knew this was goung to happen and yet they meekly comply. In the same way the majority of the public know something very sinister is happening yet they meekly comply. We have media propaganda and yet those in the media who are able to speak out, choose to sit on the fence, make excuses and hide behind a veil of political correctness. Until some of our journalists actually support people like Neil Oliver and James Delingpole, by acknowledging the truth instead of saving their own reputations the Government will carry on its evil trajectory.
I think that an awful lot of people have been so propagandised by the fear porn spewed by every MSM outlet that very very few of them, unless they are coming to sites like this, have any clue that something sinister is going on. They are meekly complying because they genuinely believe that there is a “pandemic” and that “covid is everywhere” and we are “being locked down for our own good” because of a “deadly virus” and that vaccines are the only way out of this and that it is our social responsibility to get jabbed as many times as we are told to because it will make it safer for everyone. I know of only one other person IRL who sees that something very sinister is going on.
Yes just keep taking your boosters everybody. The gov’t is planning to eliminate you one way or the other. Time to return to normal. Travelling through Scotland right now. The sheeple are wearing masks, despite the fact they don’t work. Most people I have asked here don’t know a soul with Covid. Time to drop every mandate and return to our lives. How on earth can such an incompetent advisory group make predictions, when they have been so wrong in the past. This further scaremongering is simply to force you to give your kids the koolaid. Sad.
This is basically an admission that the jabs don’t work.
Ah, 2 weeks! It’s worth remembering ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’ and also that lockdown 3.0 was brought in ‘for at least 6 weeks’ – we all saw how that turned out!
The Welsh firebreak wasn’t a resounding success, was it?
And maybe that’s because, even then (and far more now, as any map of infections shows) the virus, in its Delta form, is everywhere. So we have a wildfire (or more accurately, I suppose, a smouldering heath fire) across the entire country, without any islands of green. It’s what is called an endemic virus.
So where, exactly, do you put your firebreak to contain it?
Altas Shrugged is going to be playing out soon if this keeps up.
Who is John Galt?
everyone plan a tax “firebreak”
The Government has drawn up plans for an October ‘firebreak’ if hospitalisations continue at their current level and threaten to overload the NHS
TRANSLATION: We want the Coronavirus Act extended.
So what happened to the ‘irreversible’ roadmap out of lockdown? I don’t think Johnson even knows when he’s lying anymore – it’s just one lie on top of another and no one seems to notice. Most people I know had forgotten about the irreversible roadmap already.
Look at who owns the IPSOS Mori polls…Bill Gates. When we people wake up? He even donates to our very own MHRA (our own alleged ‘independent body into the regulation of drugs) Its all a VERY SICK JOKE…wake up and take action now.
Rather like YouGov and their ‘71%’ figures – can they ever be trusted?
You can always trust ‘Honest Nadhim’, my friend.
Spot on; how often has any statement in person or in “the media” by MHRA is predicated with a disclosure of any or all external grants and funding.
Time for a 100% disclosure regime by any UK Govt quango touting it is independent, extending to all GMC/HAC medics and others in management positions…any support for such a petition?