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Aleajactaest
4 years ago

“Worth reading in full”

The Grauniad/Torygraph/DailyFail/i/

Meh.

Go look for Alt truth Tob.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

therealslog.com

theconservativetreehouse.com

rt.com/news

armstrongeconomics.com/blog

zerohedge.com

market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker

independencedaily.co.uk

conservativewoman.co.uk

wattsupwiththat.com

thegatewaypundit.com

Mark
4 years ago
  • Andrew Neil poised to quit GB News” – The veteran interviewer has not presented his evening show since June 24th, just two weeks after launch, and insiders believe he will not be back, reports the Telegraph.

Andrew Neil in his time has been a great interviewer and journalist and fought some good fights. But like so many, he failed the test of March 2020, and his attempt to forge GB News into a respectable (ie useless) establishment “conservative” organ, when what is needed is a Fox News type operation that can move in the needed “populist” directions, was ill judged.

What’s the point in yet another respectable journalist/editor too polite and cautious to say what needs to be said about covid, about our corrupt elites, and about the new taboos of the dominant woke left? We’ve got Fraser Nelson for that, and he’s younger.

Monro
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

On the other hand:

‘….author Philip Pullman wrote: “Saying this as clearly as I can: Boris Johnson is removing the Covid restrictions because he WANTS the NHS to collapse, so that he has a political excuse for privatising it. Nothing else, not even stupidity, can explain what’s going on.”

‘Mr Neil…….: “It’s the know-nothing bonkers of the literary-chattering class. “When it comes to the real world — instead of tedious Dark Materials — they are more stupid than Jack Stupid McStupid the year he won the Stupid Man of the Year contest.”

He will be missed, certainly by me.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

He’s also the man who thought it was clever to loudly join in the nasty pile-on against supposedly “stupid” “anti-vax” protesters, the other day. As for as I’m aware he backed the panic initially, and has been decidedly “moderate” on the issues.

On the important issue of the day, he’s chosen to be part of the problem, too concerned about his respectability to stand on the right side.

Past it, evidently.

But credit where it is due, he has been one of the good guys in the past.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

On the important issue of the day” Indeed. I may be off track here, but my view from the start has been that this issue dwarfs all others we’ve seen in our lifetimes, at least in the UK in peacetime. Maybe freedom of speech, but the damage on that front has crept in bit by bit. I just don’t think one can defensibly remain neutral on covid.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes. how can anything else in the short term match up to outright theft of basic liberty, massive waste of money we don’t have, the introduction of gross inefficiencies on a colossal scale into every aspect of government and business life, the systematic abuse of state and media power to panic the population, suppress dissent and manipulate opinion, coerced medical experimentation on a population wide scale for profit, the changing of the relationship between the individual and the state, for the worse, profoundly and probably permanently….?

The other issues haven’t gone away, but you have to ask questions about the basic moral compass of anyone who isn’t absolutely prioritising overturning the covid panic, or who attaches more importance to their remaining respectably within the BBC’s Overton Window of “moderate” opinion.

UKResponse
UKResponse
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes. He is a high quality journalist (etc) who has always been wholly part of the media establishment.

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  UKResponse

Fuck him bought off from the start

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We don’t need Fox News tripe in this country, we need a steadfast, anti-hysterical, anti-sensationalist, anti-propaganda, level-headed and rational platform for real investigative journalists, thinkers and whistleblowers.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Good luck with that one, mate. The only effective mainstream media resistance in the US has been on Fox.

The lesson of the past few decades has been quite clear, that “respectable” dissent gets subsumed into the borg or crushed.

a steadfast, anti-hysterical, anti-sensationalist, anti-propaganda, level-headed and rational platform for real investigative journalists, thinkers and whistleblowers.

With close to zero viewers and actually zero political impact.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Gormless idiots with too much makeup are not the solution to gormless idiots with too much makeup. Fox news is so straight-up fugly that we’ll be condemned to woketopia for the rest of our lives.

Don’t do the deal, don’t fall for it!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Mass media has to compete at the mass media level.

There’s a place for dry, intelligent analysis, but if it has no audience then it has no influence.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

I’ll take Fox News tripe over BBC/ITV/C4/Sky tripe any day of the week

Brett_McS
4 years ago

Two of the headlines go together:
Health Officials Advise White House to Scale Back Booster Plan for Now
and
Dr. Robert Malone, mRNA Vaccine Inventor, on Latest Covid Data, Booster Shots, and the Shattered Scientific ‘Consensus’ (Part 1)

In the later, Dr Malone talks about the likelihood that the booster shot is actually suppressing immunity.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I wish people would stop referring to Malone as the inventor of mRNA vaccine. It was a collaborative effort to which he made a significant contribution. A better description might be “self-styled inventor of mRNA vaccine”.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/the-development-of-mrna-vaccines-was-a-collaborative-effort-robert-malone-contributed-to-their-development-but-he-is-not-their-inventor/

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I wish people like you, who can’t deal with the fact that Malone knows more than almost anyone on your side of the debate about the technical issues of this new technology, would give over on the nasty, petty sniping about his qualifications and achievements, which not one of you would have questioned a couple of years ago.

Grow up, ffs!

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I don’t think it is a good idea to settle disputes based on expertise – but I am sure you know the vast preponderance of expertise believes the vaccines are safe and effective.

I just think it is bad behaviour to project yourself as “the inventor” when you weren’t – although I see he has switched his position recently to “originator of the core technology”. After all he has never invented a vaccine in his life.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I don’t think it is a good idea to settle disputes based on expertise

Bullshit. It’s nothing to do with “settling disputes based on expertise”, and everything to do with ad hominem attacks to try to undermine someone putting out inconvenient truths.

As if it mattes whether someone is “the inventor” or “core tech originator”, ffs! You’re absolutely transparent.

I am sure you know the vast preponderance of expertise believes the vaccines are safe and effective.

As you, on some level, are doubtless aware that such a fatuously impossible assertion for a new and untried technology with absolutely unknown long term consequences, amounts to an outright lie.

But you don’t care because you want it to be used whatever the risks, and if there are the kinds of disastrous consequences that can’t possibly be ruled out, you’ll just shrug and claim “how could we possibly have known?”

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As you, on some level, are doubtless aware that such a fatuously impossible assertion for a new and untried technology with absolutely unknown long term consequences, amounts to an outright lie. I guess the assertion is that the vaccines are safe and effective? These are arguments we have been over many times and are debated endlessly on the internet. I don’t propose to repeat them. The fact remains that if the debate were to be settled on the basis of weight of expertise then the “pro-vaccine” camp would win by a country mile (not that I approve of that method of settling disputes) But you don’t care because you want it to be used whatever the risks, I want the best possible solution to the problems created by this virus. I happen to think vaccines are part of that solution. I will change my mind if the evidence points the other way e.g. if the Ivermectin trial is successful that would be very good news. I am also very interested in this one: https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/azd7442-prophylaxis-trial-met-primary-endpoint.html and if there are the kinds of disastrous consequences that can’t possibly be ruled out, you’ll just shrug and claim “how could we possibly have known?”… Read more »

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

1 in approx 31,000 vaccinated people in the UK have died soon afterwards. 1 in 20,000 young people vaccinated with Pfizer of Moderna vaccines develop myocardotis or pericarditis. The AZ vaccine has been withdrawn for the under 40s for safety reasons.
Meanwhile heavily vaxed countries like Israel and Iceland have seen huge new waves of infections recently.

The vaccines are neither safe nor effective by any reasonable interpretation of those terms.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

1 in approx 31,000 vaccinated people in the UK have died soon afterwards I don’t know how you define “soon afterwards” but let’s say it is a week. About 1 in a 100 people die every year. So about 1 in 5000 every week. So it looks like getting vaccinated dramatically reduces your chances of dying! 1 in 20,000 young people vaccinated with Pfizer of Moderna vaccines develop myocardotis or pericarditis. Where did you get the 1 in 20,000 figure? This suggests it is about 1 in 100,000 (note that all the people who had this side effect recovered). To put this in perspective – this about 30 times less than your chances of being killed by lightning in a year. The AZ vaccine has been withdrawn for the under 40s for safety reasons The AZ vaccine has been withdrawn in some countries for younger people because of the very small risk of blood clots in the young – the mRNA vaccines have less risk. Both risks are very small but why not use the less risky one? Meanwhile heavily vaxed countries like Israel and Iceland have seen huge new waves of infections recently Yes – it is clear that… Read more »

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“I don’t know how you define “soon afterwards” 
I didn’t define it, the MHRA did. See their Yellow Card reporting page.

As for 1 in 20,000, it is here:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1930043321003289

Thanks for admiting that the AZ vaccine isn’t safe for young people and that the vaccines don’t prevent infection and therefore aren’t effective. Well, not effective as vaccines, anyway.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I can’t find the MHRA definition of “soon afterwards”. Presumably you had some idea what you meant when you used the term. So what did you mean? Thanks for the link. Rather strangely the paper refers not to a newspaper article about an Israeli ministry of health report! I can’t find the actual report. The newspaper article includes the following quotes from the report: “The findings were presented to the Pfizer company who replied that they had not had similar reports in the rest of the world and would examine the data” “We cannot yet tell if there are more cases than normal or if there are similar numbers annually and the proximity is just a coincidence. Efforts to collect more data are continuing,” However, let’s suppose that the vaccine increases the risk of myocarditis for men in the 16-30 year old group from zero to 1/20,0000 .This is still a very small risk, lower than the risk of being struck by lightning in a year. I most certainly did not admit that the AZ vaccine is unsafe for young people and I can’t see how you got that impression. To repeat what I wrote: “Both risks are very small… Read more »

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The MHRA has received 509 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,060 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 15 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 28 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified.”

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

However, let’s suppose that the vaccine increases the risk of myocarditis for men in the 16-30 year old group from zero to 1/20,0000 .This is still a very small risk, lower than the risk of being struck by lightning in a year.”

But, crucially, about 50 times more risk than the risk of a 16-30 year old dying with coronavirus.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

So about 1 in 5000 every week”

… and ~4999 in 5000 don’t. Your logic and is flawed.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

In what sense flawed?

Your chances of dying in any given week independently of the vaccine (or Covid) are about 1 in 5000.

Realarthurdent tells me that 1 in 31,000 people die “soon after” being vaccinated.

I am assuming the “soon after” means about a week -it makes little difference if it is a bit shorter.

I don’t think Realarthurdent has got his/her figures right, but if they were right, then it follows by simple mathematics that your chances of dying if vaccinated are much lower than if you are not vaccinated. (This is really a way of pointing out the irrelevance of the 1 in 31,000 statistic.)

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I don’t think Realarthurdent has got his/her figures right,”

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

The MHRA has received 509 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,060 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 15 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 28 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. “

That’s a total of 1612 deaths shortly after vaccination.

Number of people who have received the first dose of a vaccination for COVID-19 in the UK between 8 December 2020 and end of 25 August 2021.

Country Number of doses

England 40,145,779

Wales 2,347,000

Northern Ireland 1,275,554

Scotland 4,092,295″

A total of 47,860,628 having had at least one vaccination.

47,860,628 divided by 1612 is 29,690.

So you were correct. My figures were wrong. They were an UNDERESTIMATE. The vaccines are EVEN MORE DEADLY than I thought.

1 in 29,690 people vaccinated have died soon after their vaccination, soon enough afterwards to merit a report to the MHRA.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The relevant divisor is the number of vaccinations not the number of people who have been vaccinated.

However, my point is that the number of people who died shortly after vaccination was surely much higher. You are only referring to the ones that were reported. As I explained, you would expect about 1 in 5,000 to die every week

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Fuck off 77

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

AS I wrote in my response to Julian:

“What strikes me is the absolute refusal of many people posting here to engage with contrary arguments – instead they resort to name calling and abuse”

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“These are arguments we have been over many times and are debated endlessly on the internet.“ It’s not open to honest debate. These are new technologies. Anyone who claims (as far too many do) that they are “safe” is lying because they have ulterior reasons for wanting to justify their use. Full stop, end of discussion. This is not a matter of studies, statistics, numbers, it’s a matter of basic reason. “I want the best possible solution to the problems created by this virus. “ There are no significant “problems” at a societal level, created by this virus, that could not have been addressed perfectly well by a calm and undisruptive normal response to respiratory disease. The big problems are created entirely by the utterly unwarranted panic response. “Your policy would prelude any medical intervention that had not been undergoing trials for years“ Yes, obviously. And that’s the standard approach, requiring an “emergency” justification for breaching it. As in this case a spurious “emergency” was manufactured to justify evading the normal constraints. “Compare this to taking Ivermectin day after day as a prophylactic (yes I know it has been used as a treatment for decades but it is new to use… Read more »

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Excellent rip up.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I’m baffled as to how anyone not gripped by evil or madness could blandly say “the vaccines are safe and effective”. At the the start of covid, I was 100% open to getting a vaxx, and to other people being offered it – NEVER as a prerequisite for exiting lockdown because lockdowns were wrong regardless, but as a bonus. I may even be at risk from covid because of my age/health history. But nothing I have seen convinces me that it’s right for me to have one.

Furthermore, aside from my individual cost/benefit analysis, the deployment and coercion of experimental, emergency drugs that don’t stop the spread to mainly invulnerable people in the middle of a “pandemic” flies in the face of established science and ethics, and anyone who supports it in its current form is either in the grip or lunacy or serving Satan.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Julian

You may not be convinced by the vaccines but the majority of the population are. Are they all gripped by evil or madness? I don’t think you or the other anti-vaccine types here are either evil or mad – I just think you are mistaken – and on occasion I try to explain why – hopefully without getting personal.

What strikes me is the absolute refusal of many people posting here to engage with contrary arguments – instead they resort to name calling and abuse. As Mark so eloquently puts it:

 Anyone who claims (as far too many do) that they are “safe” is lying because they have ulterior reasons for wanting to justify their use. Full stop, end of discussion.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The majority are convinced they are safe, not sure about effective – lots of vaxxed people I know just did it to go on holiday, or because of work pressure or to get a Green Pass in EU, many had already had covid.

Anyway, the majority are not always right, especially given the level of propaganda which has been astonishing. The majority go along with mask theatre and all the other futile rubbish too.

The majority are gripped by a kind of madness, yes. Mass hysteria. It happens from time to time. Not often, but it happens.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“What strikes me is the absolute refusal of many people posting here to engage with contrary arguments“ You are not making a contrary argument on the issue here, you are just repetitively diverting into irrelevant nonsense about numbers that have no relevance to the key point. I’ll explain it once more in case you genuinely haven’t grasped it: These are novel, untried and extremely powerful genetic manipulation techniques. Such techniques would never be authorised for mass use without years of trials, and years, probably decades, of experience of their use in targeted cases. The have only been authorised on the dishonest basis of a spurious “emergency”. Nobody can possibly honestly assert that they are “safe” for the mass use they are being put to, by definition, because the data cannot exist to justify it. So all your numbers and all the dishonest assertions by “experts” with ulterior motives count for zero. They are literally beside the point. And you will not be retroactively justified in your panic – for that is what it is, for those motivated like you by fear – if we are fortunate enough for none of the potential disasters to come to pass. Your reckless gambling… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

These are novel, untried and extremely powerful genetic manipulation techniques. Such techniques would never be authorised for mass use without years of trials, and years, probably decades, of experience of their use in targeted cases.
The have only been authorised on the dishonest basis of a spurious “emergency”.

Nobody can possibly honestly assert that they are “safe” for the mass 

This is something that can be debated – to what extent are they novel, untried and powerful (mRNA therapies have been around at least 5 years and not all vaccines use this technology)? Is the emergency really spurious? However, you wrote:

“It’s not open to honest debate. These are new technologies. Anyone who claims (as far too many do) that they are “safe” is lying because they have ulterior reasons for wanting to justify their use. Full stop, end of discussion”

So presumably you are taking this position as axiomatic and not interested in arguments to the contrary.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Obviously anything can be “argued” if one is willing to be as dishonest and obtuse as you are in defence of your desperate needs. Reread your own writing there, and try to do so with a shred of honesty. Trying to pretend that these technologies are “not new” because they’ve been “around for five years”. Quibbling about exactly which technology is which, when all the major “vaccines” use new genetic manipulation techniques. There are positions that are open to reasonable question, such as how many reported vaccine or covid deaths are properly attributable to those causes, and there are those that are not open to reasonable question, because the relevant facts are clear and not subject to honest dispute. Among the latter are the incontrovertible facts that this “emergency” was not anything that could possibly qualify as a medical emergency under any plausible objective and honest criteria, and the incontrovertible fact that these are powerful new and intrusive medical technologies with unknown consequences, that we are gambling with based on “emergency” authorisations to override the usual precautions. You deserve only contempt when you align yourself with those pushing these lies for reasons of cowardice or self interest. And your repeated… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Oh, the cult of the “majority”; the greater the number of people that “believe” make the “belief” valid, more valid, the most valid – You are evidently intelligent but I don’t conceive that you really put any store in in the rectitude of a stance being “fact” purely by the measure of the numbers who support that stance? You may “think” people who consider these jabs provide no safe remedy by virtue of the weight of deaths, adverse events, or the fact that it induces production of a toxic element ( those are the words of Drs Malone, McCullough, Cole and others, not my “belief” ) are mistaken, but you (or me, I acknowledge) do not “know” unless you are a suitably qualified person – I am not. We, for I am sceptical on this and many other matters, rely on people who do “know” – our judgement is of their bona fides, why they say what they say, what verifiable facts and data they provide to back up their statements and whether they are compromised by external factors. That is why I do not “believe” a word politicians say – they are professional dissemblers and having met and corresponded… Read more »

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Ivermectin, when taken as a prophylactic, requires a weekly, not daily dose. It’s safer, by orders of magnitude, than the unlicensed jabs (which have absolutely no long-term data).

That you continue to peddle the use of these jabs in the face of all the evidence of adverse reactions, demonstrates that you are a shill – who for, I know not, but it should be clear to everyone on this site by now that you are a propagandist for this evil.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Eff off troll idiot

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“but I am sure you know the vast preponderance of expertise believes the vaccines are safe and effective” Straight out of the “97% playbook”. Can’t wait to read what you think about “settled science”. Key word is “believes”: belief is surely fine if you don’t make life or death decisions but is not “have proof” a prerequisite if you do make such decisions? Please, I implore you, to assert -or reassert – what you “think” about the recorded incidence of death and adverse side effects both in the US and UK, VAERS and MHRA Yellow card, as a consequence of either a first or second jab. Please confirm if you consider “self reporting” is a negative component of these data. While you are at it, please give your wisdom on the previous vaccines developed in similar emergency conditions that have been withdrawn after deaths measured in “tens” directly as a result of such jabs; perhaps you view the number of deaths – and as I have mentioned previously – ignore any factor of “under reporting” , as acceptable in the bigger picture (mass vaccination) and that the thousands of deaths reported may not be “deaths from the vaccine” but “deaths… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Straight out of the “97% playbook”. I am not claiming that I am right because the majority of experts agree. I am simply saying that if you were to argue from expertise then the pro-vaccine position would prevail. Please, I implore you, to assert -or reassert – what you “think” about the recorded incidence of death and adverse side effects both in the US and UK, VAERS and MHRA Yellow card, as a consequence of either a first or second jab. Please confirm if you consider “self reporting” is a negative component of these data. I have said this many times – so it is a case of reassert. The high recorded incidence of some side effects, including death, on systems such as VAERS and MHRA yellow card are almost certainly down to vastly increased reporting of incidents that would have happened anyway. There is immense publicity round these vaccines and their safety which means people (including medical professionals) are far more likely to report an incident, particularly if it happens shortly after the vaccination. (I have never had a vaccine before where the accompanying leaflet drew my attention to the yellow card system.) Increased reporting could easily explain the… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Ummm, “safe and effective”; so the Spanish scientists reporting in the LA Quinta Columna, backed up by a separate investigation by Dr Robert Young – LINK – available here are wrong presumably because the elements they have found ( are so small they have no toxic effect by their action within the body? ( I think you have put that view in a previous post ) Why would all these scientists …..lie? May I suggest that the revelation that these jabs have not disclosed the entire contents thereof is immediately a massive problem for “informed consent”? “(I have never had a vaccine before where the accompanying leaflet drew my attention to the yellow card system.)” With respect, so what? Please confirm if you consider “self reporting” is a negative component of these data. With respect, you did not answer the question. “I am not claiming that I am right because the majority of experts agree. I am simply saying that if you were to argue from expertise then the pro-vaccine position would prevail.” Nope; the degree of “expertise” is disassociated from the number who espouse that view and I am frankly astonished you peddle that but then again on reflection maybe not. Einstein and… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

There is so much confusion here it is hard to know where to begin. I will concentrate just on the first part of your comment: Ummm, “safe and effective”; so the Spanish scientists reporting in the LA Quinta Columna, backed up by a separate investigation by Dr Robert Young – LINK – available here are wrong presumably because the elements they have found ( are so small they have no toxic effect by their action within the body? ( I think you have put that view in a previous post ) Why would all these scientists …..lie? There was just one Spanish scientist. “He obtained what he himself described as non-conclusive results after studying one vial. He said the vial was purported to contain a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine but said it had come to him by a messenger service and acknowledged that the vial’s origin was unknown” This is what his own university had to say about his “research”: The University of Almería described the publication as an “unofficial report by a university professor about an analysis of a sample of unknown origin with a total lack of traceability”. It added that it was a “report that this university neither… Read more »

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I don’t know how you can sleep at night peddling the distortions and lies of the official narrative.

Have you been double-jabbed, I wonder?

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

I don’t know how you can sleep at night peddling the distortions and lies of the official narrative.

You really can’t understand that I can sincerely believe I am right?

Have you been double-jabbed, I wonder?

Just once – I was a late starter for medical reasons.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I sincerely believe you are a shill. You peddle untruths – I despise you as much as I do the government.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Deficient in grey matter by any chance?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Dear MTF, I have spent a night not being able to sleep following the exchanges with you and others below/above. I constantly think, because I am not a scientist, that what I read and hear over the last 21 months or so about these monumental events could mean I am wrong to reach the conclusion(s) I have – because the information they are based on may have been/is/has been misstated, inaccurate; I ask myself, constantly, three words when I spend the time I do/have done to try and understand difficult scientific issues – “which means that….” and so my self doubt continues. I think matters over, go back and revisit some, dismiss some, “undo’ some… I constantly have to rebase what I think I know, in the light of new information being presented. I am sure I am not “100% right all the time because it is impossible to be so, but I must state I am 100% certain that the circumstances behind SARS COV2 are highly suspicious; we in the UK do not have the benefit of an “open society” conferred by a constitution as the US does, so a lot of what I have taken in is US… Read more »

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Double bought.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Are you part of one of those SAGE cleansing cells sent in after the event to tidy up loose ends as the Nazis did in WWII? Your bare faced mendacity certainly suggests so.

Please fuck off.

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It isn’t a fucking vaccine

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

And your evidence is from a “fact check” site.

FFS – nailed your own hat on there.

Emmerich
4 years ago

Sorry if this is the inappropriate place to ask but a while back someone shared here an Indian site that sells HCQ, Zinc, Ivermectin, etc and ships to the UK. Anybody have the link or remember what it was called?

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

There are some suggestions on this UK Column thread … I can’t vouch for any of them but I can vouch for Vitamin C. Have you tried looking up Patrick Holford’s Covid protocol, apparently the virus can’t survive in a bloodstream saturated with ascorbic acid. Vit C is cheap, easily available and safe.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/community/forums/topic/where-can-you-buy-hcq-or-ivermectin-in-the-uk/

https://www.patrickholford.com/advice/covid-news-january
https://www.patrickholford.com/advice/covid-news-february-2021

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

I’m glad I’m not the only fan of Patrick Holford. I’ve used his ‘diets’ to help with other health issues and they’ve always helped a lot.

He might not be the most vocal but he’s certainly been seriously questioning the government response to covid.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

Quercetin, Vit D >3000iu & zinc as prophylactic

Vit C 5000ui as possible treatment for “long covid

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

Listen to this from Dr Zelenko – his DIY formulation for getting zinc into the cells. His assertion is that the HCQ and ivmctn act as trojan horses to get max levels of zinc into the cells and that effectively the governments are preventing patients from accessing substances which get zinc into the cells. They’re doing this because these drugs destroy the illusion that their toxic lethal Frankenstein juice shots are the “only option”.

Dr. Zev Zelenko COVID Genocide “Very Nefarious, Sinister Purpose” – Stew Peters – Sep 2 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ov4mkrROyGj8/

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

Ziverdokit.store

FrankiiB
4 years ago

For children, the risk of death and serious illness from the vaccine, which is claimed to be very small, is still two or three times greater than the risk of death or serious illness from Covid.

This has not been clearly spelled out, for fear of putting off adults from vaccination. The BBC and others, who are banging the drum to overrule the decision.

If the government overrule the JCVI, they will be directly responsible for those additional deaths. There will be no committee to hide behind.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

It’s a real shame that there’s a taboo about spelling this out. Earlier this year when they banned the AZ for under 40yr olds, I seem to recall that the media was full of graphs and stats showing that the risk of dying of a vax induced clotting condition was greater than the risk of dying of covid. Maybe that was just so they could push Pfizer instead?

Monro
4 years ago

The bad news:

A disaster, if correct, that Andrew Neil is not returning to GB News.

The good news:

‘Isabel Oakeshott, the former Sunday Times political editor, will join as a presenter on a new daily show called The Briefing AM.’

A major breakthrough.

Ms Oakeshott is, in my view, a really first class journalist who will add yet more stature and integrity to the best development in British television journalism since the late lamented ‘The Daily Politics’ hosted by…….Mr Neil.

Julian
4 years ago

The Government insists its child vaccination programme will go ahead despite scientific advisers saying benefits are “too small”, reports the Telegraph.”

As apparently happened in Germany. Another nail in the coffin of any belief that the Prime Minister is a closet libertarian or repressed sceptic, frightened into doing things he doesn’t want to by those nasty doom-monerging scientists.

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

The move to go against the JCVI heralds a new government mantra
Follow The Science is now out dated. The new mantra is

OVERRULE THE SCIENCE

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Small addition, if you don’t mind……Overrule the science WHEN IT SUITS US TO DO SO.

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Was hard to convert that within a three word mantra. Perhaps use lower case

OVERRULE THE SCIENCE*
*when it suits us to do so

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Convey

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

New mantra is: “Become The Science”.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

“Follow my science” says Whitty, Vallance etc…..?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

No.

The new Mantra is:

Fuck the lot of you we’ll do what we want.”

Encierro
4 years ago

Someone has change the adobe stock image.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Good to see the boys showing up at the MHRA kicking up some shit. Last time I checked there are some hard bastards in this country. It’s time for those people to fight the good fight against these evil scumbags. Fuck the police, they’re a bunch of traitors and they’re a bunch of Freemasonic Satanic scumfucks. Fuck the MHRA they’re a bunch of murderers. Fuck the politicians – they are responsible for this and if they all end up swinging from lampposts, it will be a net gain for the soul of planet Earth.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

Not reported above but mask maniac Sadiq Khan has lost his attempt to make it a criminal offence not to wear a face covering on TFL services- a small piece of good news. Even better, he is ‘incredibly disappointed’ about this. So you cannot be fined and only asked to leave if you fail to claim exemption when approached by one of his enforcement goons. Also, the police won’t be getting involved.

RickH
4 years ago

Beware the degree to which antagonism to ‘vaccine’ passports can hide this sort of propaganda acceptance :

“The vaccines are safe, effective and have helped us tame the pandemic”

[Spiked]

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Spiked.

Ditched that subscription a while back. What planet are they on?

Mark
4 years ago

Jabbing 12 to 15-year-olds will stop schools being closed says expert as ministers push for young teens to get Covid vaccinations
So the gov will inject children with new treatments, with unknown long term consequences, because they are too cowardly to confront the cowardly teaching unions.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The stand-off between teaching unions and government is pure theatre.

The unions don’t want to work and government supports that. All part of destroying children’s sanity – makes ’em more compliant when they join the slave queue.