Government Plans to Vaccinate 12 Year-Olds
The NHS has drawn up plans to start vaccinating 12 year-olds from the first week schools go back. The Telegraph has more.
Health officials have said children would not need parental consent to be jabbed under the programme of vaccination in schools.
On Wednesday, NHS trusts were told to prepare for the “possible rollout of a 12 to 15 year-old healthy child vaccination programme commencing September 6th”. Emails sent by NHS England’s regional offices, seen by the Telegraph, say trusts should draw up plans by 4pm on Friday.
The timetable – with the first jabs administered in less than two weeks – comes despite the fact that the Government’s advisers on vaccination have not so far recommended such a roll-out. On Wednesday night, the Department of Health and Social Care insisted no decision to roll out jabs for 12 to 15 year-olds had been taken.
Until now, Government advisers have said there is insufficient data to support such a move, but further research on the safety of jabs in this age group is about to be published, feeding into their review of the evidence.
In June, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency approved the Pfizer jab for 12 to 15 year-olds in Britain. Last month, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) announced that youngsters between those ages would only receive vaccines if they suffered from particular health conditions.
Jabs are currently being offered to those aged 16 and 17 following a recommendation from the committee earlier this month. They are only being offered one dose, with the JCVI yet to make a decision on whether or when a second should be given.
The caution is linked to concerns over a rare side effect called myocarditis – a type of heart inflammation – which is more likely to be triggered by second doses, and the NHS plans for the rollout to younger children also suggest that only one Pfizer dose should be given.
The emails from one of NHS England and NHS Improvement’s regional offices, sent to trusts on Wednesday, say: “In preparation for the possible announcement of a 12 to 15 year-old healthy child vaccination programme commencing September 6th, we have been tasked by our national team to request some additional detailed planning information from all systems.”
Trusts are asked to provide details of how they could vaccinate at least 75% of children aged 12 to 15 by November 1st.
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Of course they are going to roll this out. Of course they are not going to require parental consent. Where do you stand on this, Toby? Time to nail your colours to the mast! This is not a sit on the fence issue, not where our children are concerned.
Toby probably thinks it’s all cock-up
A strange comment. I would have thought that raising this as an issue is obvious evidence of scepticism.
Where is the commentary? Where is the fear for our children? Where is the outrage? This has been coming down the line for many months, and not a peep. TY has kept relatively quiet on the topic of the vaccines from the start, which I have found disappointing to say the least, but by this stage in the game, I would expect someone so vocal, so “sceptical”, to be shouting from the rooftops on the criminal issue of pressuring our nation’s children into taking an experimental injection that will have god knows what long term effects for years and decades to come, all for the sake of making adults feel safer. Utterly criminal.
Agree 100%
I’m outraged. I’m absolutely effing furious. I can barely sit in my chair in my new office (at home) where I can’t discuss this with my colleagues and fellow parents at what used to be my office.
There’s plenty of fear and outrage expressed within the various articles and elsewhere by other groups. This site facilitates opinions and updates. Considering Toby’s committment and output to this and the FSU, I’m grateful for what he does. Attacking him is not appropriate.
I agree. Toby sweats bullets for this site. He does not want to be labelled an “anti-vaxxer” – this site would be silenced.
Write to your MPs, the media, post comments, get out and protest. Railing at Toby is counter-productive and pretty unfair.
Message to Toby : I agree with James Delingpole, but I really appreciate this site. Very well done!
And the vaccine issue is so so political it could have resulted in the site being shutdown if Toby and the others had not trodden careful. At least we have each other still
Yes it’s inevitable that he has been threatened
Toby sees himself as an informant not a fighter
It doesn’t stop with children… its eating away at the essential community services… globally…
Here is LAFD Captain Cristian Granucci’s response to Honolulu Fire Capt. Kaimi Pelekai tweet below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMqyj9T7rlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaYn6QM2Ny8
Real people, real pain….awful dilemmas..
Kinda makes you wish globalist kabal slimeball scum such as one Tony Bliar – he a BUILD BACK BETTER sh#t that’s well and truly on KILL GATES coin – should simply walk out his front door to nearest tree and hang himslef, i.e doing his personal best service for the Great Reset.
Amen
The author of this otherwise-excellent poster has completely destroyed his or her message by the misspelling of “muscles”.
Pedant alert!
Why should my young granddaughters be vaccinated to “protect” their parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, all of whom have been vaccinated?The effect of covid on them is more than likely to be minimal. The effect of the vaccine is totally unknown. What else do we vaccinate them against so that “society” can be safe? This is unacceptable interference with our youngsters lives.
It’s not to protect the children, or the adults, it’s to protect the vaccine
(and the profits)
Absolutely agree. Toby is very good at bringing us information…much we already know but is good to have everything in one place. However, there has been no encouragement to stand together and take back our liberties. There comes a time where a sacred line is crossed.
Please see all the articles and interviews given by world renowned scientists, who are very clear that 12 year olds do not need the experimental biologicals.
Toby is still worrying about his income. Which is legitimate because he can only tell the full story once. At least I hope he is just keeping his powder dry for the right moment and not stupidly thinking this is about health matters. And so, the pretense continues
They plan to vaccinate everyone, including babies.
They just haven’t announced it yet. But they will.
That’s because part of the agenda is depopulation.
They don’t want the responsibility of millions of orphans when the parents die due to the vaccines. So obviously they are going to dispatch the children too.
I think a mixture of shots have been given.. sterility, slow killing shots that inadvertently cause a somewhat faster death in some.. and saline.. for plausible deniability.
That’s deep down the rabbit hole that. Not saying it’s wrong but it’s deep
This is disturbing and no Rabbit Holes in sight. https://www.facebook.com/100069113945888/videos/947448479137767/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HZKUCVTXIpRE/
How is that still on facebook?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HZKUCVTXIpRE/
I can’t believe it but I cannot come up with a sensibly evil reason such as just money.
I think the placebos are to preserve a work force. I can’t see Klaus Schwab cleaning his own home, hunting for food and protecting himself – he wouldn’t last long. Heard rumours Pfizer was 50% placebo – is that verified? It would explain why many say no side effects at all. If true would also give a clue how many vaccination rounds are to be expected; 3 shots to get the 1 billion population.
If I was an alien I’d also be worried, because they’ll be coming for them next! Basically if you’ve got a heartbeat they want you
dead/maimedjabbed.They will NOT be putting their experimental poison into ME! This is criminal behaviour by medicals who swore to protect life
On the current trajectory.. the unvaxxed will at some point be pulled out of their homes to be jabbed.
No doubt about that.
depends how brave “they” are.
The first several non-invited invaders through my door won’t be leaving on foot. Or with a heartbeat.
Some choice – die in a couple of years from the vax or immediately from a bullet if the pretence has ended.
The question is why?
Is it to sterilise or worse?
Utterly terrifying, especially the bit about parental consent not being needed. Given that kids won’t be informed of the vaccine risks or the vanishingly small risk that covid poses to them it is also unethical and highly immoral, nothing short of pure evil.
I’ve tried my best, but couldn’t really find the words to express how angry this has made me, even though I don’t have kids of my own. My heart goes out to well informed parents who must be terrified what this could mean for their children who have already suffered so much from this government’s madness
I couldn’t agree more.
Horrific.
How much more degraded and satanic is this going to get?
Unfortunately they will start carting off the unvaxxed for the depop shot. That degraded.
They will have to drag me through the streets kicking & screaming
I haven’t been one to jump on the Nuremburg Trial 2 bandwagon so far. But this is different. Anyone agreeing to this and all of those involved in the approval, supply and administering of medical interventions on children needs to be fully aware that when this thing is over, they WILL be held to account. “Befehl is befehl” was not acceptable in 1946 and it won’t be acceptable this time.
There is not a single child of 12 years of age able to give informed consent on a subject as complex as this. Most adults haven’t even been given true informed consent.
This is utterly despicable and cannot be permitted. Parents need to stop this happening.
I’m writing to my useless MP yet again
Agree entirely with this, and unless there is mass resistance by parents I fear that it will not be long before they continue the vaccination programme into even young age cohorts (although I very much hope not).
Semi-serious question: is there anywhere
in the world where people can take refuge from this utter insanity?
Parents aren’t going to resist.
How many people do you think can live with the idea that they’ve injected themselves with something dangerous? Very few.
So the majority have persuaded themselves it’s perfectly safe. And for the majority it seems that way, as the majority don’t have any bad symptoms.
So they’re going to have no trouble at all jabbing their kids.
It’s only those of us who don’t want the jab in the first place who are horrified they are jabbing kids.
There is no where to run.
Kill one or all the children of these politicians. That will stop them and this.
Surely a violation of the Nuremberg Codex?
No question.
This must be challenged in the courts. I would be happy to contribute to a crowd-fund.
The Judicial system has been bought.
Same here. I haven’t got kids either but this has really got to me. Tried to talk to parents in town, lots didn’t know about this, many were very concerned but far too many are brainwashed and in denial, and only too happy to have their kids jabbed. Got called all the usual names by these people, who are clearly suffering from cognitive dissonance.
I had been hoping it was all stupidity and greed but each day it looks more like genocide. I still hope.
This is fuckin serious now.
People have to wake up to the genocide.
It goes like this:
Release or conjure up a disease.
Employ ALL MSM to sow fear and panic in the population re this “terryfying” disease.
Lockdown to increase fear and make people mentally and physically poorly with little access to health services.
Announce a ‘vaccine’ on its way.
Introduce the injections. Ramp up fear.
Discuss “Freedom Passports.”
Collapse the world financial systems and replace with Central Bank Digital Currency ( CBDC).
GOTCHA!
A slave society and by 2030 don’t forget:
“You will own nothing and be happy.”
This is where it’s headed. Of course I might be wrong, another Conspiracy Theory. 🙄
I think you are only potentially wrong. That is their plan but resistance is growing. Some countries will go to all out insurrection before submitting to some of these policies.
The financial system is going to be attempted to be a controlled demolition. However, they need everyone on board before it collapses. The problem is it may collapse BEFORE the digital ID system meets the required levels of submission.
THAT is why they are going so hard now. Time is running out and they may lose control of the financial system.
Blackrock, the major banks, World Bank, IMF and whoever else makes up this cabal took a decision at a meeting in August 2019 at Jackson’s Hole (USA) to “go direct.”
Many national governments are broke including UK and USA. The ‘players’ above took the decision to take control of the world and its population by subverting national governments.
The means to this end is digital currency.
If digital passports are mandated and the financial systems collapsed to be replaced by CBDC our money disappears. Our every move can be tracked. Every purchase recorded.
Book a holiday? Only if you behave yourself. Buy some booze? No, you had too much last week. A day trip but need fuel -bank card blocked.
Don’t forget:
“You will own nothing and be happy.”
Agreed. That is precisely the plan.
I think there will be a massive uprising before that gets through. Many will die and only part of the planet will be ruled under this system, even that will be subject to intermittent violent resistance.
Prepare for the next 30 years war.
Thats my view anyway. Humans don’t do well with totalitarian control.
I hope your final sentence is correct.
With or without the so-called Covid passports if CBDC becomes reality ultimately it will mean the death of humanity.
People simply cannot comprehend how much evil is being heaped upon the population but eighteen months ago would many have believed that vaccinating children against a disease which poses no threat to our children have even been considered?
At the whole population level C1984 has not even reached a serious ‘flu epidemic once the deaths are correctly re-assessed.
What’s happening is nothing to do with health. Every NPI introduced has had as its sole purpose the destruction of the health of the population.
This is a world take-over.
Please enlighten me – what does CBDC stand for?
thank you
Central Bank Digital Currency.
Thank you
Agree. There’s a methodical co-ordinated push to crush humanity. Deeply elitist and evil. But too many are still asleep, thinking things just take the shots and things will go back to normal. They won’t.
I wish I had your confidence in the weak, timid, spineless majority ‘uprising’ any further than getting out of bed.
Unfortunately I don’t think it will be that large of a resistance in the UK. But it’s a big world.
Fear-mongering, barmy rubbish.
I’m curious. Which part of his post do you think is barmy?
And your view on how things will play out is?
Really, please explain which part and why.
I’m setting up meetings with other parents in my youngest son’s school (15 year old). We are going to mail out to the rest of the parents to determine which parents are against this imminent threat to our children. Of course there will be plenty ready to have their kids poisoned but we shall see if we can get 10 to 20% of the parents together.
We will not stand for it and we have already made contact with a lawyer.
Once they get wind of a law suit, I think they will fold in our school.
All parents should do the same immediately.
Well done and best of luck.
Thanks, we are going to need it, but we will not surrender our children under any circumstances.
Yes, the very best of luck to you. We need more parents with a brain and spinal column to stand up and protect their children. It will be sad to see just how many parents don’t fall into this category.
Thanks for inspiration- I am going to follow your model – my 14 year old starts at a performing arts school in sept – v competitive place and I am terrified of vaccine pressure on her from other students – (you know in the name of the British music industry bollocks) – so strategy 1. Educating the kid about the reality 2. Finding like minded parents 3. Seeking legal advice as back up. As I said on Twitter and got permanently banned for it (sigh of relief) – I will break anyone’s arm who goes near my kid with a Pfizer loaded needle – go jab yourself if you like but do not touch the kids – ask one question- wtf would you vaccinate anyone with this proven shite against a virus that is basically harmless against most people?
Great – can you please let us know how it all pans out?
we are but few.
but we know.
#1 Ferguson’s predictions were bullshit (see Diamond Princess).
#2 Gates has spunked billions into id2020
#3 Gates has also spunked billions into WHO
#4 Gates’ wife has left him because of Epstein ‘paedo island connections
But how does this help?
That poor child: legally assaulted by a morbidly obese maskoid bearing a needle.
If parents can’t protect their children from this outrage, what sort of legal recompense can children expect if they are damaged by this injection? Does the indemnity extend to harm to children?
I’m quite sure Big Pharma have this covered as well, as children were always the target (along with the elderly, middle aged, young adults, teenagers, people with special needs, clinically vulnerable… etc etc). Given how ridiculously watertight their leaked purchase agreement with the Albanian government was, there’s no way they’d forget this angle.
There is no indemnity- Bugger Boris gave them all immunity from responsibility, Jane
Jesus! You know Toby, I have never criticized you or vented fault against lockdown sceptics: I simply admire and respect the tough choices you make daily!
But Jesus Christ, you have to have some level of outrage against this abhorrently grotesque violation that our “government” will soon decree (either explicitly or more likely implicitly (“Non vaccinated children must sit in a different room at lunch times”)) against our most vulnerable?
I would never ask anyone to publicly vent, nor choose a side per say, but this is a red line in the sand that has been leapt over?
Surely and collectively we need to stand together and overtly reject this tyrannical decision? I might disagree with some of your finer points, Toby, but please … I’m begging … please make a public stand against vaccinations for our children.
It will kill some. I hope to God I am well wrong, but if a child gets hurt or dies from a vaccine, then surely their blood will be proveribally or literally on the hands of those who did not stand against!
Cheers
Dave
100% agree.
If the injections are the same as those pumped in to adults then the deaths of children are a given.
Or perhaps the injections have been modified for the children to act only as sterilising agents?
At least that would ensure a decent supply of non-breeding humanoids for a few years.
Let’s call it the forthcoming (slave) labour force.
I think most semi-normies like Toby, who, like you, I greatly respect but wish were more awake, believe that the government will ultimately be forced to back down from their most ludicrous and nasty policies.
We shall see…
We need to see how AU plays out.
100% agree.
“…12-15 year old healthy child vaccination program…”
Not for long, a “healthy child.”
This is the most evil thing I have ever encountered.
Back in the 80’s a liberal mom with many kids fought against the state making contraception and the morning after pill available to underage girls without parental consent. She was unsuccessful. It has been legal now for decades to allow teenage girls access to contraception and the morning after pill, more importantly to consent to treatment without parental consent. It is is that law man-boy Boris will wedge open and abuse.
Kids wont need to be coerced. Most kids like most adults aren’t capable of free thought. Kids will get ‘their jabs’ prompting others to get ‘their jabs’. Kids don’t need a great deal of pressure to do anything. The power of peer pressure is the greatest pressure of all. That and getting out of lessons for their jab. Kids will do anything to get out of lessons. They’ll all join the lines.
It is really quite sick.
I fear you’re right. A friend of my son told him he should try to persuade me to let him get vaxxed. And last year even though I had written to the school, and they had acknowledged, that he was not to be tested, my son was still sent down to the testing bay and had to explain again. We shouldn’t be depending on a 12 year old standing up to adults again for him not to be having a medical intervention.
Well done to your son for having the guts to explain he was not to be tested. It would have been much easier to give in.
What an irony in the headline photograph. An obese person, who is likely to be at risk from the bug, giving a jab to a young person, who is not.
Will they accept parents objecting? If I write to the school and say not my kid, will they take the 12yo’s position over mine.
Make the point that informed consent is impossible: the trials do simply not have sufficient data to address the acknowledged (see approval notes from FDA and MHRA) deficiencies in the data available to date with respect to carcinogenicity, fertility, neurotoxicity and risk of ADE.
As informed consent is impossible, you will view any violation, by school staff and vaccinators as assault and will take action immediately. Don’t say what it is, just leave that hanging there. Could be physical to stop it in time, could be police action, could be legal. I would let them fret about the criminality of their actions a bit. Might give them pause for thought.
Good letter to start with here https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/resources/template-letters
The police will only help to hold your child down for the school ‘nurse’ whilst she jabs them. The schools know all these threats come to nothing and that most parents can’t afford legal representation and don’t have an army of ‘human rights lawyers’ behind them.
Not most, no. But it only takes one.
nomorelockdowns are sending out cards for children to carry with them, that say basically to the school, you do not have permisssion to vaccinate me, my parents do not consent, I do not consent.
According to WHO, the fact that a child / adolescent is present in school when ‘vax’ sessions are planned is viewed as implied consent.
Best action is probably to keep the child off school on those days – of course that depends on if the parents are made aware in advance!
https://www.who.int/immunization/programmes_systems/policies_strategies/consent_note_en.pdf
This is why homeschooling is such an attractive option to me. Yes, my son would miss out on the very important social aspects of being in a class with other kids, but he’d be safe from the clutches of the lunatics running schools these days. There’s also the not-insignificant matter of giving up my career, but it would be very rewarding in other ways and it’s a sacrifice I can afford to make (financially speaking). Luckily it’s not something I have to decide for another few years.
Yes. And once they’ve jabbed them, what then?
No idea, but I am glad my kids are in primary age. Although I suspect they’re next.
Schoolkids aged 12 and up started to get ‘vaccinated’ here in Finland two and a half weeks ago. The desire for Big Pharma and the politicians to make money out of all this is relentless.
Please support: COVID19 Assembly take legal action against MHRA to halt child vaccinations – https://www.LCAHub.org/
So they are saying that parents’ consent isn’t needed. And since children are legally incapable of giving informed consent they are breaking the NHS guidance on vaccinating children AND the Nuremberg Code which makes it very clear that INFORMED CONSENT is essential.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2021/08/C1384-Vaccinating-children-and-young-people-frequently-asked-questions.pdf Page 4.
Thanks for this. I wouldn’t put it past the bar stewards to say that the child has given informed consent and is competent though.
Even though a lot of adults having it aren’t actually giving informed consent because they’re totally ignorant of the fact that the things are still not actually approved.
Lovely…….those who do the jabbing are getting £22.58 per kid they stick.
What to they get per child death?
The effective use of the blanket slur of ‘anti vaxxer’ predates Covid ‘vaccines’. This blanket no debate on vaccines, has been a long time in the making, (remember the massive big pharma and state crackdown on the link between autism and MMR) Since questioning the principle of vaccinations being an unmitigated positive for health is already a non starter, then bringing in vaccinations for children without parental consent was an easy move to make, – noone was standing in the way. Vaccinations if you’ll excuse the phrase in this context have become a holy cow. And now we are seeing exactly where this lack of debate has led us. Being pro-health, pro personal responsibility for your health, may mean being anti vax, and for me it definitely means being anti THIS so called vaccine. Precisely because no-one dared even question the premise, way way back when vaccines were erroneously touted as being ‘the way out’ of Covid measures, when even Lockdown Sceptics were afraid to question anything about this, and in fact blithely re-iterated the mantra, then this is why we are now witnessing the unfolding of biofascism. It’s evil, and it’s abhorrent. Clearly children will be damaged, children will… Read more »
Hi all,
I’ve written an article entitled ‘The Elephant in the Room‘ to send to family and friends etc. detailing why vaccinating kids is ethically and morally reprehensible. I’d happily post it here – but there doesn’t appear to be a facility to attach documents to posts. Pictures yes – but not documents. (If I’m wrong and it is possible – can someone please tell me how!) So, if anyone wants a copy, send me a message and I’ll attach it to my reply.
Tim.
Hi Tim please can you message me with your article?
Hi Tim, thanks so much for the article (I couldn’t PM you back, hence reply here) – very useful source to help educate the kids, ourselves, the school and so on. With such info on hand, it’s a no brainer – which might be half the problem. Cheers.
Thanks Ruth.
Hi Tim,
I would also like to read your article. Thank you.
I see that, not content with killing off tens of thousands of the most vulnerable elderly by their criminal action of sending infected patients into care homes from hospitals in the spring of 2020, HMG is now going to prime children to be new variant producers – as has been demonstrated everywhere high vaccine rates exist – and start a whole new wave of infection and death among their at risk relatives.
So much for “don’t be selfish get the jab to protect granny”.
Why do they not examine the real world evidence and see that this is going to drive new variant creation and kill the very people they claim it will protect?
This is all about making money and controlling populations by fear. We knew they were coming for the children, and now they are. Everyone has had time to prepare for this.
Erm, because what they are doing will produce exactly the result required – more deaths.
Children would not need parental consent??!! I’m lost for words! Are we living in some dystopian novel? What is it going to take to wake up the brainwashed masses?? They’re coming for the kids now!! Where are the parents?? I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with people! Wake the fuck up and smell the coffee! Fucks sake!!! Sorry for the language but this has made me so angry!
Totally justified.
I’ve had Covid Tourettes for a while now but this is stretching my vocabulary to find new swear words, I’m just stringing them together into new ones now like German.
Thanks for that naming of my current affliction – very helpful when I have to explain myself to passers by.
I turned up at a warehouse once in the middle of a typical Welsh rainstorm. The storeman poked his nose out and said
“What a pig of a cow of a cunt of a fucking awful day!”
That sort of thing rattles round my brain a lot these days.
The people are sheep and running scared of a virus that can cause ‘Long Covid’ – and will do anything to escape it, including sacrificing their children. Whilst the politicians are maskless in Parliament because they know there is no such virus or danger. The Queen was also maskless at the G7 meeting. They are laughing in our faces – and getting away with it.
Once the Nuremberg trials come to fruition between 2030-2040 after the world emerges from the mass psychosis, we can do a switcheroo with the unjected that have since been rounded up and put in the mega prisons / concentration camps (“national resilience centres” in Australia) – then the looooong list of Govt officials, management figures in companies that were “just following Govt guidelines” – they can all be ‘housed’ in the mega prisons, whilst they await execution.
Tony Blair is still walking around a free man. There will be no ‘Nuremburg 2’ – it’s a fantasy. The reality is that kids are getting jabbed, it has already started.
How about we deal with the realities rather than just dream about all the big criminals “coming to justice” in the future.
Are they going to take the time to ensure that these children have Gillick competency? If they do not then the child cannot be given the injection without consent from a person with parental responsibility. If given despite this then that is at least assault and battery but could be a more serious offence. Also the person administering the vaccine should be reported to their registering body (NMC, HCPC, GMC).
If the child / young person is present in school on a day / days when vax sessions are scheduled, then WHO views it as being implied consent from the parent.
https://www.who.int/immunization/programmes_systems/policies_strategies/consent_note_en.pdf
luckily the law in the UK takes precedent over the WHO.
It illegal to administer medical procedures to under 16s in the UK without parental consent. Period. Even coercion of an injection without consent is illegal.
Read my comment about consent from the NHS website. For example, a 12 year old presents with mum with a head wound. I would explain to the child what I was going to do, if they were happy then I would proceed as I was confident that the child understood completely and hence was Gillick competent. If a 12 year old came in and required an appendectomy then the person with parental responsibility would be required to give consent in all probability.
With regards to boarding schools, I don’t think that they’re any different to other schools in that teachers do not have parental responsibility.
”It is possible to delegate the responsibility of looking after a child to a partner, child minder, teacher, friend or relative, but the person with Parental Responsibility is still liable and responsible to ensure that proper arrangements are made for the child.” (https://childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/parental-responsibility/)
And how does that work in a boarding school?
“Schools may experience problems when a child has had an accident and consent might be needed for emergency medical treatment. The Children Act 1989, section 3 provides that people who do not have parental responsibility but nonetheless have care of a child may:
This would allow schools to act ‘in loco parentis’, in place of a parent, or allow them to seek consent from a parent who may not hold parental responsibility.
It would clearly be reasonable for a school to take a child who needs to have a wound stitched up to hospital, but the parents, including the non-resident parent who has asked to be kept informed of events involving the child, should be informed as soon as possible.”
in my mind this would mean that schools can behave reactively to a medical situation but they cannot proactively in a preventative manner.
There can be no implied consent in these circumstances. If I wanted to take a patients temperature or blood pressure then them turning their head towards me or moving their arm towards me is implied consent. The presence of a person in a particular place at a particular time cannot be taken as consent implied or not. Consent is a moving target that can be withdrawn at any time during a procedure. If you turn up at A&E then there is no implied consent for any intervention, you can walk out any time you wish, effectively withdrawing consent even if doing so is a bad decision from a clinical point of view.
makes one wonder how long it will be before, in the name of the public health emergency, the law on consent is changed
The state mandates school attendance, so I don’t think that would stand up in court.
Another psyop from the psychos in charge.
The consent part is particularly abhorrent as I can see many teens going along with it just to avoid the social exclusion from their peers that would result otherwise.
Interestingly, child consent has been a current contentious topic recently as it relates to whether children are able to consent to so-called “puberty blocker” drugs that then lead to hormonal treatment and “sex changes”.
The brave Keira Bell won her case at the High Court didn’t she? She said she was too young to be able to consent to the treatment and the Judge agreed with her. Doesn’t this now have a legal precedent? It’s not really the same as continuing to provide teens with access to contraception.
It basically boils down to determining the competency of the child, this has to be on a case by case basis; whether it’s for contraception or gender changing the onus is on the clinician to determine that.
If there is a difference of opinion between the child and one person with parental responsibility then the latter should take precedence (note that only one parent is required although the reality is two parents would be consulted). This could also go to court.
If two parents have opposing views then it goes to court.
Civil court cases – 16 months waiting list. Jabbing starts in two weeks’ time.
It’s not the normal court. If a case is referred to the court/judge then the child cannot be given the treatment until the court has decided.
People aged 16 or over are entitled to consent to their own treatment. This can only be overruled in exceptional circumstances. Like adults, young people (aged 16 or 17) are presumed to have sufficient capacity to decide on their own medical treatment, unless there’s significant evidence to suggest otherwise. Children under the age of 16 can consent to their own treatment if they’re believed to have enough intelligence, competence and understanding to fully appreciate what’s involved in their treatment. This is known as being Gillick competent. Otherwise, someone with parental responsibility can consent for them. This could be: the child’s mother or father the child’s legally appointed guardian a person with a residence order concerning the child a local authority designated to care for the child a local authority or person with an emergency protection order for the child Parental responsibilityA person with parental responsibility must have the capacity to give consent. If a parent refuses to give consent to a particular treatment, this decision can be overruled by the courts if treatment is thought to be in the best interests of the child. By law, healthcare professionals only need 1 person with parental responsibility to give consent for them to provide… Read more »
When consent can be overruledIf a young person refuses treatment, which may lead to their death or a severe permanent injury, their decision can be overruled by the Court of Protection.
This is the legal body that oversees the operation of the mental capacity act.
The parents of a young person who has refused treatment may consent for them, but it’s usually thought best to go through the courts in this situation.
The last two comments are a cut and paste from the NHS own website.
I must admit that I am glad that I am no longer working in healthcare.
Sounds like no-one involved in jabbing is working in health or care any more.
Thanks all. This is really interesting. I think that a lot of children have the capacity to consent to medical treatment HOWEVER most of the population has not given proper informed consent for their covvie jabs because they haven’t been given enough balanced info!!! 😡
Nailed it!
Until the PTB admit the truth, that only a tiny proportion of the population are at any significant risk from the virus, informed consent is an impossibility.
The government’s campaign of terror has been too successful for any informed consent to occur IMO.
At the end of my road a church is being demolished. A fitting symbol for our times I believe. Irrespective of your views on Judaeo-Christianity, the outcome is always the same. Once a society dispenses with God catastrophe occurs and anti-human behaviour becomes the norm.
Who would have thought that in 2021 the state would presume the right to inject vulnerable children with an experimental gene therapy, without parental consent…
The West has quite simply gone mad. This has to end and by any means possible.
Infiltrated by evil, too late to corrupt the older ones, got to get to the children
That photo, you could get a few jabs in the jabbers arm!!
Disgusting, immoral, amoral, illegal, revolting, vile, evil child abuse. I hope if/when the reckoning comes these despicable callous people will be held accountable and the appropriate punishment meted out. Can’t tell you how angry I am!!!
Absolute child abuse and violation of the rights of their parents.
This is a chilling glimpse of the future
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Can I once and for all clarify the position of children and consent. First of all a child is anyone under 18 according to the Children Act. Secondly anyone 16 or over is deemed to have mental capacity to make their own decisions (default position) unless demonstrated otherwise. Therefore, all 16 & 17 year old children are deemed capable of deciding their own medical treatment. For a child under 16 they cannot consent to treatment unless they can be shown to be Gillick competent, this means that the clinician must be certain that the child fully understands what is going to happen, what the possible side effects are, what the risks are and what the benefits are. The child has to demonstrate that they can hold that information and understand that information. (Basically it’s the same requirement laid down in the mental capacity act when determining competency). If the child does not show this then the medical procedure cannot continue until consent has been obtained from ONE person with parental responsibility (a teacher does not have this responsibility). If that consent is not forthcoming then the procedure cannot proceed. If the procedure is carried out without the full consent being… Read more »
As far as I can tell, the authorities are driving a horse and cart through the rules, ignoring the law. This will be yet another crime against humanity perpetrated by these evil thugs.
And they continue to do exactly as they please with no redress.
But, of course, this begs the question “is the information provided adequate to enable ‘informed consent’ ?” because according to the widely censored ‘people formerly respected as experts in the days before the virus’ it isn’t.
In America the mothers are up in arms. Many have taken their children out of school. I wonder if the British mums will be as angry or as well informed.
There’s a father here who is up in arms.
Many British mums will be at home watching Love Island on the telly.
They are plenty of mothers and fathers in the US foolishly signing on. They think they are well informed.
And again.. I say this..
There is no opposition to this. No real opposition. Swayne is just a nice haircut in a suit who sometimes makes the right noises. But look at his voting record and you see the cut of his jib. Brady and IDS are just warble warble. Has Brady got 20 letters or 100? We would never know unless he said.
The tory party have become the nazi party. And why wouldn’t it happen again? Gates, Stanley.. Klaus.. Charles.. even Greta has eugenicists in her family tree.
At the very least they want total population control for a mad 4th revolution of impossible and unnecessary tech doodle. And/or it is just about pharma profits. But at worst, they want to cull the human herd because Gates, Charles, David Attenborough etc believe it is time to do so.
Only makes sense if say Boris & cabinet were picked because they’ve all got nice videos of themselves with Epstein on yachts.
I don’t think. I am sure there are skeletons in the pig dictator’s closet. But he’s just been bribed with cash. A few million in a Swiss account. All that was needed in his case.
They said coming for the kids would be the last straw or at least a turning point for many in the brainwashed masses. This is the shit test coming up. If the populace at large will stand for this, they will stand for anything. Buckle up folks, it’s gut check time
Of course they’ll stand for this.
People need to start getting their heads around the idea that we are in the midst of a mass psychosis and that there is virtually no limit to what the herd will do. The only limiting factor is the restraint the government choses to show. Nothing else.
To be plain, if the government decides that unvaccinated people will need to be physically separated and put in camps, there is no doubt in my mind that they have the capacity to stir the public up into believing it is necessary and that the public will eventually go along with it. No doubt at all.
Good point Stewart, the psychosis has been well established. Now the overlords turn the screws at will. And yes, I am in agreement unfortunately, my point was more a rhetorical one. People will definitely go along with it. This will happen.
I hate the fact that this is the truth. I’m sitting here numb, speechless.
Considering the abuse I’ve had over questioning the ‘vaccines’ and the whole ‘Covid agenda’ you are right. The braying mob all want to see people die over this, so they can get their fix of smugness and self-righteousness.
Exactly! Think of the population of sheeple as lemmings in a long obedient line all marching towards and then jumping off the cliff to their demise (and in this analogy bringing their baby lemmings with them)….
Someone tweeted: “Let’s get this over with; I want to get to the gulag and meet everyone.”
So the cowards are willing to allow schools in collusion with the NHS to inject children without their parents consent, but Johnson, Javid etc are not actually willing to put their names to such a decsion even though their paws are clearly all over it. So when the first child dies or is injured who picks up the mess?, who is responsible? Is it the 12 year old? because clearly we are now treating the 12 year old as an Adult, so presumably if the child is allowed to make these types of decision over what happens to its body we can expect the Government to accept other adult concepts to be acceptable for a 12 year old to participate in, Drinking, smoking, sexual realtions with whoever they decide, cosmetic surgery etc after all these are things they can do and have done to their bodies.Is the state of Childhood over at 12 then? And the Child that is damaged or injured, who is liable for the damage, it seems very clear the Government is by its sneakiness dodging responsibility, likewise the Pharma industry, so is it the School and by default the head of school who will be liable… Read more »
Excellent post.
Yes! Also hair-raising and toe-curling.