A Care Home Official Asks: “How Can I in All Conscience Sack Someone Who Has Done Nothing Wrong?”
There was a good letter in the Telegraph yesterday by a care home official in despair at the fact that unvaccinated carers must be booted out of their jobs later this year. It is estimated that six in 10 care facilities will be forced to sack some of their staff because they haven’t been ‘jabbed’, but this official rightly asks: “How can I in all conscience sack someone who has done nothing wrong?“
SIR – I am chair of trustees of a private care home. In March 2020 we were given no option but to accept some residents with Covid back from hospital.
Despite all precautions, the disease rampaged through residents and staff. Many older people died, with only our loyal and loving carers at their side. Of staff, 90% caught the disease. They recovered and returned. We have been clear of Covid for over 15 months.
Now I am told I must sack staff who do not wish to be vaccinated. Their loyalty, skill and competence are not in question. How can I in all conscience sack someone who has done nothing wrong? This draconian rule only applies to care homes in England. Where is the justice in that?
I have been vaccinated and support vaccination but how is it reasonable to take people’s jobs because they do not wish to endure this invasive procedure? They cannot be made redundant because the job is still open.
This law hasn’t been thought through. It would have been better if we had been allowed to keep the staff we have and not employ any new unvaccinated staff. I am in despair about this injustice.
Barbara Korzeniowska
London W13
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“How can I in all conscience sack someone who has done nothing wrong? This draconian rule only applies to care homes in England. Where is the justice in that?”
You can’t, it’s illegal (hint – wait until you actually fire someone for being “unvaccinated”and then they sue you) and there isn’t any “justice” it’s a “feature”, not a bug.
We all know these lockdowns are pure evil:
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Breaking…. seems the ultra-vaxx’d the triple juicers…. are getting, how should one term it?
Sicker…. and sicker…… oh dear?
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1430202996747497480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, in England (or Scotland/Wales) you certainly can be dismissed even if you haven’t done anything wrong as long as your employer isn’t subjecting you to discrimination by doing so and if you have more than 2 years’ continuous employment they must also follow a fair process beforehand. It’s known as ‘Some other substantial reason’ due to statutory restriction. What’s not clear at the moment is what the penalties would be for not complying with the statutory restriction and whether that balances against the decision to dismiss an employee/employees, although the CQC website seems to imply that it could withdraw registration for care homes/managers who don’t go along with it.
Interesting guidance here, if you’re into that sort of thing:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1010601/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-of-people-working-or-deployed-in-care-homes-operational-guidance.pdf
Absolute bollocks.
Is called constructive dismissal and is illegal under the 2010 Equality Act.
They haven’t got a leg to stand on.
Dear Barbara,
a) see Aleajactaest comment below
b) accept self-exemption, like the government does with vaxx passports, has to and you will ultimately have to anyway
c) with 90% having been infected, care home managements should lobby for T cell tests being done and positive results being accepted as equal to vaccination.
That would be the correct medical way and the one for society to adopt anyway and in the first place. You could make an impact here.
But maybe, you just wanted to whinge and deflect blame and responsibility with your letter.
JayBee
Your comment is extremely unfair.
It’s also contradictory bollocks – accepting discrimination if it’s in the form of a test for T-cell immunity, FFS!
When was a ‘flu injection ever necessary for employment?
Don’t fire them, just declare them exempt for ethical or medical reasons.
It can’t really be retrospective, can it, or prepare for tribunals
90% are immunized because they caught COVID, and rather than take the unnecessary risk of the unending jabs/boosters with it’s poor/negative “protection” they only need an antibody test.
T cell test probably. Antibodies may have waned.
So just don’t comply, for goodness sake can’t we all just grow a pair and say no? It’s not compulsory!! FFS
Exactly, she seems to be using 2020 thinking, ie, that if she obeys government diktats it will somehow all be ok, but at the very least she feels she ought to complain about it. Here’s an idea – how about a letter stating that under no circumstances will she sack unvaccinated staff and she will do her utmost to protect any of her staff from abuse under this unjust law.
Probably because of this:
https://www.cqc.org.uk/news/stories/statement-covid-19-vaccination-people-workingdeployed-care-homes-role-care-quality
Which is still illegal.
No court case regarding ANY COVID related fines has been unsuccessful towards the plaintiff.
Call their bluff, they know they DO NOT have the law on they side but do it based on fear.
As for you Mr Brazilian. Feck off.
Absolutely! If enough people running care homes refuse to comply, the government will back down. This needs to be nipped in the bud, it’s only the start, they won’t stop at care homes.
Whilst I give credit to Barbara Korzeniowska for her expression of loyalty, she is sadly missing the point: vaccinated or unvaccinated makes no difference to the care home residents. In fact it could place them at more of a risk if the vaccinated become complacent.
With the vaccinated less likely to have symptoms and often a higher viral load in the lungs (although viral load and ability to spread are supposedly uncorrelated which seems unlikely) they seem more able to spread sars2 to the care home vulnerable.
Only recovering from covid seems to provide genuine protection from spreading and enhanced protection from further sars2 infection
The latest reasearch from Oxford shows the viral load in the vaccinated is 251 times higher than the unvaccinated.
That’s probably why the hurried “research” saying viral load and infectiveness are not correlated came from (i.e. even low loads spread the same, which is a bit homeopathic IMHO).
They have never stated that it protects a third party at all, according to the leaflets promoting it’s use – see image from the NHS March issue to me.
Hospitalisation trends before and after vaccines. 2020-2021
It was never about health….
Tessa gets it: https://tessa.substack.com/p/totalitarianism
The FDA knew way before the vaxx roll out what ‘problems’ would be triggered by the jibb-jabbs…
R E S I S T …. and hold the line!
Watch Francis Hoare’s Twitter account, Barbara, and support the legal action he is involved in. You might be useful to them.
Less than a third of delta variant deaths are in the unvaccinated.
Let me say that another way – two-thirds of Delta deaths in the UK are in the jabbed.
https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire
The metric of “death within 28 days of a test” means that you can be jabbed 20x but if you are run over by a bus within 28 days of that test, you’re still a covid death.
These vaccines might have prevented serious covid19 symptoms in those old people in hospital: but cancer still got them after they had a positive PCR test. So they’re a covid death. So even if the vaccine did help, the government data manages to make it look as though it doesn’t.
the metric used by government is creating garbage data.
They can be fired because the inept government declared that they have done “something” wrong. Don’t ask for an explanation. Last Year’s Heroes are this year’s trash according to the medical taliban.
SACK FOR CARERS.
What a difference a year makes eh
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The obvious answer is testing for antibodies and other immunity aspects like T and B cells. If someone has them, they are as good as (if not more so) than vaccinated. And I agree with vaccination. But it’s not the only way to achieve our goals. It seems that Boris just wants to get to some magical number of vaccinated to show off to others when the goal is as many protected by all means possible to hem off severe outbreaks. Prior infection means one more vaccine for someone globally who needs it.
If the survival rate pre-vaccine (and ore-lockdown etc) was 99.5% (at least) how much more potential cos there for added “protection”?
In other words, 99.5% of the population didn’t and doesn’t have any need for a vaccine.
The only question is: does the other 0.5% have any need, and is that need satisfied by these gene therapies better than by other therapies?
Answer: no.
So it would be ok to refuse employment to somebody who hasn’t taken the snake oil?
Thanks for bloody nothing, Barbara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ys-362js5U
Right lets go through this again. The vaccinated and the un vaccinated can both get infected and pass on the virus.
Various organisations have been pushing for mandatory vaccines in the U.S..
It doesn’t always work out well:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/get-woke-go-broke-new-orleans-saints-selling-tickets-less-1-team-requires-fans-vaccinated-tested-games/
“Get Woke, Go Broke: New Orleans Saints Are Selling Tickets for Less than $1 After Team Requires Fans to be Vaccinated or Tested before Games”
As a Nurse my colleagues said fuck all when they assaulted the clients with the Devil’s tincture.Whats the issue it must be safe to advocate to their captives go on roll your sleeves up over those bingo wings!
I’m down to 1 Care Home that will tolerate my belief system.Only a few months ago I was inundated till the poison programme was introduced and I pushed back so fuck the lot of them.
They still haven’t explained why care home workers have to be sacked but NHS employees don’t. Cruel and stupid.
Too many on this thread are obsessing about vaccines. The push for vaccines is to enable TPTB to bring in Digital passports. After that there will be worldwide currency collapse and in comes CBDC – central Bank digital currency and bingo:
Humanity is enslaved.
They are going after the kids. This was always the plan. Please support: COVID19 Assembly take legal action against MHRA to halt child vaccinations – https://www.LCAHub.org/
Barbara still supports medical apartheid by considering that only those who’ve been injected should be offered employment in the future.
Barbara is a tosspot.
‘Vaccine’?… IT IS NOT…not clinically or legally. She should know that being in the medical profession.