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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“The virus joins 200 other pathogens in regular circulation”.

I seem to remember a comment that on average, an elderly person who dies of a respiratory illness dies ‘with’ over a dozen pathogens present. My worry is that if they look hard enough for a particular virus, and if they continue the ludicrous situation whereby any death within 28 days of a positive test result is counted as aa “Covid” death, regardless of comorbidities etc., governments will be able to find an excuse for restrictions indefinitely if they are so minded. I suppose they couldn’t just look at overall mortality from Belarus (or IFR in Romania for that matter where it seems less than 20% may be “vaccinated”), and abandon this insane policy of trying to micromanage a virus, which appears to owe more to a misreading of King Canute and the tide than any rational arguments?

Fearless
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s not an insane policy, it’s a very deliberate policy and so far it’s working like a dream for the global elite who are hell-bent on destroying the ‘old normal’ so they can herald in their sick ‘new normal’. Perpetual autumn-winter lockdowns are the only way forward in their eyes as it’s the best way of keeping the sheeple cowering in fear at home, and if they have to fudge a few death certs along the way to facilitate it, well that’s not a problem for them as they have all the key people in every sector of society on side. They took care of that long before the COVID-19 scam surfaced.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Is there by any chance any way forward for us? If Australia’s anything to go by, it seems they will stick at nothing to get their way (and the CCP has far too much influence for my liking too).

Fearless
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. But have no doubt, the truth ALWAYS wins out in the end. History has shown us that time and again. They think they’ve been so clever and have covered every angle, and by and large they have, but that doesn’t guarantee victory. We just need to hold firm to our knowledge of the truth, keep the faith and resist getting sucked into the vortex of lies (a la Raiders of the Lost Ark!). If we can save any of our friends and family along the way, then all the better. On a side note, I often wonder whether I’m ‘privileged’ to be witnessing this colossal global takeover of the human race or whether it would have been better if my time on this Earth had ended before it all kicked off. The magnitude of the scam is mind boggling and is a stunning example of how to think big across many complex systems and plan for the long term! The sheer scale of the deception has overwhelmed many of the sheeple as they can’t even begin to contemplate such a grand plan. On the plus side, my little… Read more »

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Indeed ZERO COVID = ZERO CARBON…. depop/defrag written in. Let’s see how the kill shots deliver the mRNA animal trial predicted ADEs this coming winter for the double-jabbies…. the kicker?

The unvaxx’d will of course be further ostracized as the plague drivers of this deadly new variant….

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stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

There is a good reason people aren’t PCR tested for the flu virus.
There would be thousands of positive tests.
And then people would realise what a joke the whole thing is.

Encierro
4 years ago

One of the biggest, if not the biggest music festival in the UK during 2021, Reading has one of it’s hotels has cancelled the bookings because of Afghans.
Worth a read.

davews
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

First hotels being seized as quarantine hotels, now seized for Afghan refugees with the hotels powerless to stop it. I can see the annual gathering in October for another club I am in, supposed to be open to the public from late September, being grabbed for the same. I have little faith it will go ahead which has the obvious financial implications for all involved who will get no compensation.

BungleIsABogan
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Hopefully people will put all these businesses who treat them with such contempt, to favour housing Afghans or Dover “Boat People” on a blacklist, so that others can avoid using them in the future.

Annie
4 years ago

Ah yes. Nuclear fusion.
Thirty years. ago, to hysterical applause, two scientists claimed to have discovered ‘cold fusion’, the cheap and easy solution to all the world’s energy problems.
Orher scientists did what scientists ought to do: tried to replicate the experiment. And found it didn’t work. End of hysteria.
Nowadays, I suppose, governments would pretend the experiment worked and cancel any Nobel-prizewinning physicist who dared to suggest that the results ought at least to be checked. And governments would spend zillions on cold-fusion equipment.

If you’re interested, it’s discussed here, published before Nature turned its back on real science:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01673-x

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Matt Ridley’s over-optimism gets more and more irritating by the week. He spotted a niche years ago and has failed to find anything original to say since then.

davews
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Longer than 30 years Annie, all my life the dream of nuclear fusion has been pursued and we have nothing more than a few watts generated from many kW input.

Annie
4 years ago

Stuffed full of snake oil? got the lurgie? Not the vaccine’s fault. The classic zombie response: “But I still feel really grateful to have had the vaccine. It’s been a bit rubbish and we’ve missed out on a nice family holiday, but it’s not the end of the world, and I don’t want to imagine how bad things might have been had we not been fully jabbed.” I’m waiting, just waiting, for them to start saying that it would have been so much worse for their dead relatives if they hadn’t had the snake oil. But the Wembley zombie’s response is even more breathtaking: “I have since sold my Wembley [stadium club] membership and decided I’m not going to go any more. I’m now only meeting one friend for walks with the dogs. We went to eat at a pub once, but apart from that I’m trying to keep away from people. I’m a traveller and socialiser and there is currently no joy in life, so I do look forward to getting back to mixing with people, attending football matches and festivals and travelling. I would still say to anyone: get vaccinated.” When is this moron ever again going to… Read more »

Oscarone
Oscarone
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yes. Those three were complete stooges reading from a script. Readers can’t comment on articles of this kind on the actual Guardian website so it’s great to be able to do it here.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I noticed that one of the people featured in the Guardian article thinks she caught the coof at the Wilderness festival……an event for which you needed to have been jabbed, or had proof of a negative test. It was advertised as “covid secure”. Presumably the non jabbed and non tested weren’t allowed in, yet people still got the coof!

Haven’t these idiots realised yet that the whole vax pass, covid secure thing is a complete nonsense? That the vax they rely on cannot prevent them from catching or passing on the very lurgy they so fear? In fact it sounds as if having the vax makes you more likely to become ill. Yet every one says “oh, it would have been worse if I hadn’t been vaxxed”. Well, how do you know, you moron?

Before the vax, I heard of only 2 people who allegedly had covid, tested positive and were ill – in both cases, for less than a week. Now I’m hearing more and more of doubly jabbed people who are ill with something or other. I’m going to dodge the vax for as long as I possibly can!

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Here you go, people and doctors really are as dumb as your fear they are:
Man Dies of Covid! Doctors Say He’s Lucky He Was Fully Vaxxed, It Could Have Been Worse… He Could Be ‘Super Dead?’ Or ‘Double Dead?’ Or ‘Died More Dastardly?’

https://newsrescue.com/man-dies-of-covid-doctors-say-hes-lucky-he-was-fully-vaxxed-it-could-have-been-worse-he-could-be-super-dead-or-double-dead-or-died-more-dastardly/

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I am starting to believe the people who think that the vaccine kills your soul. Apparently, Rudolf Steiner made just such a prediction 100 years ago.
But then, I also had to give more and more credibility to the lizards or cockroaches theories.

Annie
4 years ago

Vaxports are the zombies’ salvation:

“A condition of entry to Boardmasters was use of the NHS Covid Pass – a measure recommended as best-practice for other large events.”

And yet they are blaming Boardmasters for a ‘huge’ spike in local ‘cases’.
Where do zombies keep their brains?

QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
4 years ago

I heard the BBC news this morning (they had it on the radio at work, I wouldn’t listen to it by choice). They have now apparently discovered that the vaccines are only really effective for six months and boosters will be needed. Well, surprise surprise, those of us who know what’s going on could see this coming. In fact their narrative is so obvious now it’s incredible really. I wonder about the take-up for these ‘boosters’ though, surely at least some of the sheeple are going to start waking up!

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

The boosters work just like the flu vaccine boosters. You take a shot every year to increase your chances of survival to that of the average 30 year old. The medicine is adapted as the virus adapts.

Quite why that is such a big deal is beyond me, and I expect the take up will be very similar to the take up for the original vaccine. And for the same reason. None of us fancy getting that ill if we can avoid it.

It’s a straightforward risk calculation. Risk of death and injury from virus > Risk of death an injury from vaccine.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

moron tr0ll

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

They are forcing/coercing everyone to take the the jab.

If you don’t get why that is a big deal, you’re an idiot.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

He/she/it is!

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

“None of us fancy getting that ill if we can avoid it” So this means you will be looking to avoid millions of artifically induced S1 spike proteins throughout your body causing blood clots, myocarditis …..one way of doing that is to have a proven , fully tested and approved immunity inducing vaccine with known side effects for which the manufacturer is willing to accept liability. Sorry, not available in 2021 or any time soon. Your immune system adapts as the virus mutates, becomes more transmissable and less morbidly effecting. Flu jabs are extremely hit and mostly miss; the content is usually decided in late winter/very early spring BEFORE the next “‘flu season”. GP/Pharmacists will only tell you if you ask them that it is pot luck if the 3 or 4 samples of whole – but inert and non infectious – virus in the jab are actually the ones that might be prevalent in the “flu season. As I read it, the data which the manufacturers rely on is massively down on previous years because influenza has “disappeared” since the onset of the SARS COV 2 chimerically cloned, genetically engineered non natural “virus”…hence why some sane medics and scientists… Read more »

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

So what will they do? Impose more lockdowns of course.

AFAICR in a good year the flu vaccine may be 60 – 70% effective (whatever that means) but one year when they got the vaccine strains wrong it was 17%. My money is on it being made compulsory along with the “boosters”.

Time to tweak my immune system. Decisions decisions: rump steak and runner beans or salmon and samphire?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

The boosters work just like the flu vaccine boosters
Nope. The flu jabs are changed every year based on a prediction of which virus will be causing trouble.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Ugh. This is a poor attempt at rationalisation and you know it. Flu jabs generally have proven safety records having gone through the process. These aren’t fully licensed. They also aren’t rolled out to the entire population. Further my rights and freedoms as a healthy 32 year old have never been contingent on having continuous flu jab have they? They also tend to do fuck all. Stop making this lazy, moronic comparison, no one’s buying it.

Encierro
4 years ago

Questions maybe are they really boosters?
What is the chemical make up? Have they changed because…… variants?
Will they be the same amount of MLs per needle?
Or is it simply that teh first round are not as acfective as we have been lead to be….science?

stewart
4 years ago

On UBI, the American south were unable to hold on to their slave owning tradition because ultimately it was a bad economic strategy.

UBI imprisons the givers of UBI as much as the receivers. They will be burdened with the obligation of maintaining a population of serfs without getting anything productive in return.

Jonny S.
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Depopulate the serfs?

Robert Liddell
Robert Liddell
4 years ago

Re public enquiries. The end of this year is far too soon for an enquiry. It’s going to be years before politicians and others will be able to take an objective look at what happened. It will probably have to wait for an entire new generation of politicians and public health officials.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Robert Liddell

And to find an objective Judge to lead it. Sumption is too honest to be chosen and all the other buy into the ‘sky is falling’ narrative

J4mes
4 years ago

And there it is – the very beginning of the autumn lockdown for England. We’re rising out of the lull in the waves of government terror. Part of the way in to September we’ll see Fat Fuk in front of his presidential flags, flanked by two incredibly ugly pseudo scientific gollums, telling us lockdown is inevitable.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

You forgot “with a heavy heart”

Encierro
4 years ago

Another country going down the route of banning those who choose not to be vaccinated. This time Greece.
From Sept. 13 until March 31

Sweyn Forkbeard
Sweyn Forkbeard
4 years ago

Here in Belgium, doctors are now warning people against strenuous physical activity after vaccination, noting that three young cyclists have suffered ‘rare’ cardiac problems in recent weeks.
https://www.lesoir.be/389962/article/2021-08-18/des-medecins-deconseillent-la-pratique-dun-sport-intensif-apres-la-vaccination
Meanwhile the Belgian vaccination programme for teenagers continues apace…

Pavlov Bellwether
4 years ago

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covywovy
covywovy
4 years ago

My understanding is that vaccines reduce hospitalisations/ death for the population as a whole. Now even if this is true, that does not mean a vaxxed individual cannot spread or get it badly.
Unfortunately, humans being humans, now act as if they’re invincible cos they’re doubly vaxxed.
‘We can all attend this party because we’re all vaxxed’.
If it’s being spread, it’s because these morons think the vaccine is foolproof.
I pity their stupidity but not when they smugly declare they’re morally virtuous for having the damned thing and that the unvaxxed are plague rats. No, they’re the ones negating the vaccines supposed positive effects.
N.B. I am NOT saying lockdown should continue only that the vaccine is no reason to stop it.
Still I hope that the vaxxed continue to get sick (mild illness only) so it may open their eyes a bit. I’m not hopeful, though, they’ll still continue to insist that without the vax they’d be sicker.
How can they know this! Morons.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  covywovy

They might or might not reduce COVID hospitalisations/deaths.
They are INCREASING all cause hospitalisations/deaths for the population as a whole.
See thetrialsitenews article that dissects the Pfizer trial data or that data itself.

JayBee
4 years ago

“A new study has found that antibody responses were low for almost half of those participating but T cell responses were generally good, reports Sky News.”

I betcha they didn’t measure T cell responses BEFORE vaccination too though, which would have shown that everyone, including the immunocompromised, just had it before already, and that vaccination did at best sh*t all in that regard, for everyone.

UKResponse
UKResponse
4 years ago
UKResponse
UKResponse
4 years ago

“We Are in the Midst of a Fascist Power Grab.”https://www.westernjournal.com/exclusive-gen-flynn-midst-fascist-power-grab-people-still-options/