More Than Half of Care Homes Could Be Forced to Sack Staff Over Mandatory Covid Vaccination
Plans to make vaccination against Covid mandatory for care home workers could force six in 10 care facilities to fire some of their staff who refuse to get ‘jabbed’, according to new estimates. The Telegraph has the story.
The Department for Health and Social Care has ordered all care home staff to receive their first dose of a Covid vaccine by September 16th so they are fully vaccinated by the time regulations come into force on November 11th.
This means staff – apart from those who are exempt for medical reasons – will be banned from working in care homes if they are not double-jabbed by the deadline.
The Government has previously estimated that its mandatory vaccination policy will result in around 40,000 care home staff – 7% – either quitting or being sacked, costing the embattled sector £100 million to replace.
However, new data seen by the Telegraph suggest that 60% of care home managers believe they will be forced to sack staff based on current vaccination rates, with some seeing up to 20 carers already quitting.
One manager told the Telegraph that the pressure to force staff into receiving a vaccine is tantamount to “moral blackmail” which “infringes on their human rights”.
The Institute of Health and Social Care Management (IHSCM) surveyed 530 care home managers across the U.K. and found 318 said they would be forced to sack staff by November 11th based on current vaccination rates.
Around 35% of managers expect they will lose between 1-5% of staff, 19% fear they will lose between 6-10% of carers, and 4.11% believe they will lose between 11-15% of staff.
However, as many as 3.9% of managers fear they could lose up to a fifth of their workforce, with between 16 and 20% of carers missing the November deadline.
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Lousy granny killing government. There’s no way this won’t have an impact, with the elderly losing out. This is criminal. Welcome to the medical apartheid.
If people knew their rights they would. They keep using this ‘mandatory’ wording to scare people – mandatory is legalise. It is not law. They use ‘mandatory’ because they know it’s not enforceable but to many people, they take that as to mean compulsory.
It’s not. They need to stand their ground and follow procedure.
Ditto, mask wearing.
Ditto covid passes
Could you clarify further please (for the slow kids at the back of the room, me included)?
If the victimised workers can stand up to the coercion they won’t need to lose them.
This legal letter is designed to help care home workers stand up for their rights:
https://www.covid19assembly.org/2021/08/letter-for-care-home-workers/
Pass it on.
DOGMA!, AND THEN SOME.
“The Government has previously estimated that its mandatory vaccination policy will result in around 40,000 care home staff – 7% – either quitting or being sacked, costing the embattled sector £100 million to replace.”
What planet are these cupid stunts on?
Replace? In a sector where staff shortages are a problem? And replace with what? Any passing incompetent who can’t get a job?
F. me!
Exactly! Does anyone have a brain anymore??? Fire half your staff and then what? Let the inmates run the asylum I guess.
Let the senile bedridden run the care home?
There aren’t going to be any imates, they will continue slaughtering the grannies and probably blaming the unvaxxed.
“Any passing incompetent who can’t get a job?”
Mrs Streeter, who worked in Care Homes for several years, comments that they have always done that.
It’s typically a minimum wage job and it’s really hard work so I have no idea who else is going to do it.
40k people is an awful lot to add to the unemployment figures too, especially after furlough ends. If it does.
“It’s really hard work.”
It is if you are a responsible person.
However, if you enter one of the lounges and find half the “care” staff watching afternoon TV …
That’s the NHS surely? I have friends who work in both. It’s full of both shirkers and great people, like everywhere.
Definitely not my experience for the two care homes that my mother lived in – although the quality does vary.
A friend of my mother had to go into a home, it was appalling. Fortunately someone found a better one for her, it was like chalk and cheese.
A friend was a high end nurse and left the NHS to become a care home manager. She also did a pretty good job. Another friend’s father was in an excellent one too, but I wonder whether any of these places are still good.
Yes they are, they seem to divide into good ones, where they have committed constant staff, and not so good with lots of transient staff.
The people I know who work in care homes, two in Essex one in North Yorks’ are the former, they like what they do and none has had any deaths from WuFlu in their respective homes.
My sibling works with the care sector and on a recent visit to one home 90% of minimum wage staff were wearing an ankle tag!!
Ah but haven’t they included something in their ‘rules’ that personnel needed in an emergency situation – dealing with maintenance issues or staffing dilemmas- don’t have to be injected? The uninjected cavalry can be used for that purpose, then cast aside as and when they are no longer needed – until the next time arises.
Why do you think there are so many immigrants being welcomed by this government? They know they are not really doctors and engineers.
I’m more concerned with the immigrants from Planet Zog – the Bullingdon Set and friends who are screwing the country.
The more immigrants from places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc, the more our culture is diluted, the more crammed we become and the more hostile and untrusting we are of one another.
Note all the aforementioned locations were attacked under the narrative their so-called tyrannical leaders were on the brink of killing loads of their own people – who were supposedly calling for democracy. In every case except for Syria, our regime replaced theirs and installed the Rothschild central banking system. Our regime brutally murdered their leaders, using their own people to do the deed.
Meanwhile our own tyrannical regime is killing thousands upon thousands of people in our own country and imposing a standard of life that would previously have only been recognised in Communist countries like North Korea.
Afghan refugees.
‘Minister, I have Mr Dotheold, the CEO of Liverpool Care Pathway Homes on the line.’
‘Put him through.’
‘Dotheold, you old rogue, how the devil are you! Haven’t seen you at the Lodge for weeks!’
‘Too busy old boy. Wondered if I could have a favour. We’ve had to sack most of our staff as they won’t take the jabs.’
‘Shocking. You did the right thing. We can’t allow our old folk to have their lives cut short by covid. How can I help?’
‘You don’t by any chance have a pool of highly pliable immigrant workers desperate to work hard for very little, do you?’
‘Oddly enough I’ve just had a pal from Serco in Dover on the line complaining he’s running out of four star hotels to put some of his clients in. All trained doctors and engineers, apparently. I’ll have a word!’
If the victimised workers can stand up to the coercion they won’t need to lose them.
This legal letter is designed to help care home workers stand up for their rights:
https://www.covid19assembly.org/2021/08/letter-for-care-home-workers/
Pass it on.
The Government don’t care if care homes collapse. Less older people to worry about.
I’ve said before, some councils had been struggling to fund care for the elderly (I suppose as a result of smaller family units and an ageing population). One does have to wonder if this is a cost cutting measure. Same with those “do not resucitate” orders and de facto euthanasia in the NHS, among other things.
Just an extension to the Liverpool Care Pathway. That was bad enough.
They want old people gone. They pertain to care about their well-being by terrorising them, isolating them for months on end, making medical care almost impossible to access, or removing it altogether, and jabbing them continually with poison, until they finally perish. They surreptitiously put DNRs against them, and stop all other humans like family, being able to see them in care homes. And there is of course, the suspicious use of a drug used in care homes and hospitals to help them “relax” and “sleep”. All for their own good, you understand. And now the care home staff are facing a choice of taking that same poison into their bodies, whether they need it or not, which can never be removed, or lose their job. All for the “Greater Good” you see…
Sadly this isn’t the plot for a horror movie.
I see the BBC is reporting that a Welsh rugby player (playing for Cwmllynfell) died after playing a match on Saturday.
I’ve no idea if he was “vaccinated”, but still, that is three incidents in the last few months – there was Christian Eriksen at the Euros of course, plus a Waterford football player (Roy Butler) who died and definitely did have a “vaccine”. I don’t know if my memory’s playing tricks on me, but I don’t remember any such incidents with sportsmen for years before 2021.
A National Hockey League (NHL) player here in North America passed away “unexpectedly” today. No cause of death given yet. 31 years old and leaves behind his wife and two young children. All players had to be vaccinated to play this past season.
It would be interesting to see how many times these incidents have happened in the last few months compared to, say, the last 5 years. I guess they don’t call it the “clot shot” for nothing…
To be fair, we weren’t looking for such incidents before the covvibollox. Premature and unexpected deaths would get no further than a paragraph in the local paper, if that.
https://hugotalks.com/2021/08/23/the-rise-of-young-footballers-who-die-on-the-pitch-hugo-talks-lockdown/
Chris Cairns the NZ cricketer could be an addition to the list. It sounds like many premier league footballers are, sensibly, declining a vaccine they do not need. Judging by the Lions tour rugby players might be taking a similar stand.
Henry Slade, Exeter and England, is anti -vaxx
An old boss of mines son, a cricket player, who’s two sisters are olympian gymnasts died suddenly a few months back during practice; 24, heart attack:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-57058626
Another Danish football player collapsed on Saturday. Ahmed Daghim, who plays for Kolding IF, collapsed while warming up just after half time. He was taken to Bisperbjerg Hospital. The match was suspended. https://www.bold.dk/fodbold/nyheder/fa-2000-kolding-afblaest-daghim-faldt-om/
Made me wonder whether there are proper five year averages for incidents like that, and if it’s possible to identify causation correctly. Always suspicious if a lot of them seem to occur at once.
Analysis for a study done in 2018 showed that the risk of death caused by cardiac arrest in footballers was seven in 100,000. However, this study looked at adolescent players; I guess it could be argued that professional players put in more effort and have been doing so for more years, so their risk could be higher?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1714719
It may be more useful to look at the other way expressed in the paper – about 1 in 15,000 person years. This person did a rough estimate of about 56,000 professional footballers in the world which seems reasonable. So we would expect three of four deaths by cardiac arrest among professional footballers every year. I am not aware of any professional footballers who have died of cardiac arrest this year.
Yes there have always been such incidents though rare. This recent cluster looks highly suspicious.
There were also the two West Indies women cricket players who collapsed on the pitch during a match against Pakistan a couple of months ago, shortly after the team announced that its players had been ‘vaccinated’. It is of course just about possible that all of these incidents involving young, presumably healthy athletes are coincidental, but no one in the public health establishment seems terribly interested in finding out.
There were such incidents pre 2021, but they were rare. Most recent high profile case being Patrice Muamba in 2012. I seem to remember a teenager dropping dead playing school football a few years ago too. But there does seem to be a bit of a rise in cases currently.
Here is another coincidence for you. An Italian professional volleyball player diagnosed with pericarditis shortly after taking the ‘vaccine’
https://www.ilgiorno.it/bergamo/cronaca/pericardite-vaccino-marcon-1.6711046/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Your memory is playing tricks. Playing sport has always brought to the fore rare cases of undiagnosed problems in young, apparently fit people – particularly of the heart.
I don’t think speculation serves the cause.
I did look to see if Ericsson had been vaccinated and apparently he hadn’t but I think we all have a deep sceptical view of all media, so he probably has. The BBC ran a piece about how there is a high number of footballers refusing to be vaccinated, of course they ran with their usual vax propaganda.
You did very occasionally hear of Sportsmen collapsing and dying on the pitch but not this amount in a short space of time. All a coincidence of course….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3st3bmjMk
san diego!
Thanks for the San Diego link. Very inspiring.
It has now been removed for breaching their guidelines! What did it say?
Yes. It’s been removed already. That’s very telling. But here’s a video (not exactly the same one) from the KUSI news website which broadcast the report linked by sam s.j.. Community members give powerful speeches in opposition to San Diego County’s COVID-19 response – (kusi.com)
The tweets under the video show some of the people who spoke in the removed video.
Removed from you tube for violating their standards. In other words telling the truth.
that was fast , youtube working overtime !
Now removed from Youtube but here’s the link to KUSI from where the video came:
Special Report: San Diegans Speak Out in Opposition to County’s COVID-19 Response – (kusi.com)
thank you oscarone for finding that!
The jab that doesn’t stop transmission or infection, that limits dangerous reaction to a virus that is 99.something survivable by diminishing returns… That jab, the one that does actually deliver pretty nasty side effects including death. Great solutions to a non existent problem…
Sack care workers to save the old and vulnerable.
Makes good Fascist sense.
Kill the old and vulnerable and blame the care workers.
Makes even better Fascist sense.
Distancing themselves from these
diigraceful impositions is their new modus operandi
Letter for care home workers:
https://www.covid19assembly.org/2021/08/letter-for-care-home-workers/
Pass it on.
Another government created catastrophe on the way. The criminality is astonishing, as is the silence of the mainstream media.
Time to sue the Health Minister, directly and in person.
This is excellent news long may it continue elsewhere in other sectors that mandate vaccines domestically.
Pro choice does not always equal anti vaccination and I find it abhorrent that people are being forcibly coerced into taking a vaccine. Especially students! I hope the courts find all this highly illegal.
The courts might find it illegal after 99% have succumbed anyway.
I guess in the Government’s blinkered out-of-touch world, having insufficient staff to provide services for the elderly residents of care homes isn’t a risk to their health/lives.
Forcing vaccination on care workers is a disgrace and I have family living in a care home. Also everyday I hear of yet another double vaccinated person who has symptomatic covid, my cousin and wife, neighbours, friends and colleagues of friends – the numbers now are getting too many to remember. So the government are forcing a vaccination which will not stop infection on care home workers!!
Throughout all of this fiasco governments worldwide don’t seem to have learned an important concept-that all actions have consequences.
-If you keep on testing healthy people, you will keep finding traces of some virus or other
-If you have made children isolate after a single positive “test” in their year group, you have had to send the entire year group home for ten days and disrupt education
-If you get people to download the NHS app, you soon run short of staff to run your restaurant, business, school, hospital etc
-If you frighten people with big numbers without putting those numbers into context, they remain frightened
-If you shut down the health service and much of the economy for a year and a half, you will create enormous damage down the road
-If you make people work from home, their jobs could disappear abroad or it could destroy city centres and the sandwich economy
I could continue, but you get the drift.
The primary qualification for running a country is a total inability to comprehend any of the above.
They know everything is illogical and doesn’t make sense. It’s not supposed to. It’s what they want, for all this to lead to the absolute collapse of all economies and society around the world. The destruction of life as we knew it so we’ll all be on our knees begging the overlords to take over, bring in the “Great Reset” and restore order and control out of chaos. But they aren’t very bright, they haven’t thought everything through, and they greatly underestimate human intelligence, power and spirit, and the ability by ever increasing millions to see what they are doing, when for so many years it’s been hidden from us. Despite their disgusting psychological tricks they’ve used on us they haven’t fooled ALL of the people ALL of the time, and the cracks have opened up. But they’ve started now so they have to keep going, and we’ve got to keep going and fighting back with everything we’ve got.
18 months on and you’re still under the delusion governments worldwide are victims of their incompetence. I’m through with this justification of the global private finance coup.
Is there a legal workaround to this?
Can one be coerced by one’s employers to take a medical procedure?
Any help greatly appreciated.
It is not a medical procedure. It is an injection.
Not that I agree with the idea, but we must get the arguments correct if we are to win any action.
What’s the difference between a “medical procedure” and an “injection”?
I also think calling it an ‘injection’ is best. After all, who can disagree with that? But if you call it ‘medical procedure’, a lot of people, rightly or wrongly, will be puzzled, and if you call it…um, other things, a lot will switch off!
Miri from miriaf.co.uk writes letters for people to send to their employers on her blog.
https://miriaf.co.uk/another-letter-for-care-staff-declining-mandatory-vaccines/
I think an action has been started re care home workers, see Francis Hoare twitter, I think crowdfunded.
This seems like a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.The damage has been done in care homes from the outset.
It is also not clear to me if this also applies to the large number of care workers who visit people in their homes, and if not, then it is another massive inconsistency in the erratic response of this government, more concerned with ducking responsibility than actually caring for vulnerable people.
If you sack home visiting carers you do murder. Many old, housebound people are utterly dependent on them.
I know. I have witnessed them dealing with my wife’s elderly aunt.
Yes, and the noble souls are hugely overstretched as it is.
Yes we have not a few old folks here who continue to live in their own homes with help. Here’s a tale, my uncle broke his back in a horse riding incident. He bought his own equipment including an all-singing all-dancing wheelchair (literally, he exrpessed himself in its movements). He needed a new sling for craning him in and out of bed and although he bought it himself the NHS carers refused to use it because it was not NHS equipment. He had to pay for private carers.
Friends in the USA say that thee is a shortage of nurses in hospitals because of the requirement to be vaccinated.
That will save many lives.
And who exactly does this gov’t think is going to work in care homes? They are going to sack the dwindling staff they have? That should be interesting.
My Mum volunteers at a care home. They cared very well for my Gran in her final 2 years with dementia, and Mum got to know many of the residents. Now, they are so short staffed activities are infrequent so Mum set up a knit & natter group for a few of the more able ladies and also takes one more active gentleman out to do some gardening once a week.
She is against mandatory vax even though she’s had hers. She’s worried that staff shortages are only going to get worse and these elderly people will suffer. It’s what has slowly brought her around to thinking the government are evil.
Of course all those jobless jibjabs will queue up to work day after day with doubly incontinent Alzheimer’s patients.
I doubt any contract they have will state “thou shalt accept any medical intervention on thyselves that the employer dictates”.
I guess that many homes will be paying out large sums for unfair dismissal. Or do government dictats override and other laws and contract?
Easy for me to say I guess, but I’d counsel care home workers to leave and find alternative employment. Treat it as an opportunity. The policy will soon change when care workers vite with their feet in mass numbers.
Direct democracy is the only solution to the vax apartheid madness.
no. Let the homes sack first, then litigate. Mandatory is not law.
Sorry, should have read on.
Don’t leave, force them to sack you. Legal challenge on the way.
If everyone leaves a job because of compulsory jabs, governments can, with a bit of effort, have them replaced with third-worlders. If employees stand their ground it will make it more likely for the whole filthy system to collapse.
Go long term sick (if you can)
Call it V-day
Taking Twitter by Storm!
https://twitter.com/vaccine_Ls
This was always on the cards – staff fleeing the sector because they refuse the jab.
In Australia, 42% of aged care staff (110,000 workers out of 263,000) are yet to have even their first job only one month out from the deadline (September 17 – coincidentally when the Emergency Declaration for the ‘pandemic’ expires) announced by the PM when decreeing mandatory jabs way back in June.
The big question is how is it going to be enforced – seems like nursing homes that want to retain their workforce might be non-cooperative in enforcing the new Health Order. It’s not like there is a huge pool of people just busting to do the minimum wage job, especially now that migrants (who make up the bulk of the non-nursing, personal care staff) can’t get into Australia because of our closed borders and who face expensive mandatory quarantine if they do.
The unions are also resisting the push for mandatory vaccinations in the sector.
Still, if lots of old people die because nursing home standards go to the dogs with short-staffing from the unwanted mandatory jabs, then that’s worth it to save old people from Covid!
If the WA health care system generally is a guide to aged care specifically, there’s a hell of a storm on the way. Private hospitals were offering $6K last week to anyone who could bring in a nurse.
In fact it’s another win for Climate Fanatics.
Then allow yourself to be sacked and sue the ass of them. This government is STILL ‘acting’ under Emergency Powers. Where is the emergency? This is unlawful.
I can see all lawyers grinning and rubbing their hands!
No mandatory jab for those working in hospitals? Surely the same rationale exists….perhaps ‘they’ are worried there will be staff who turn Queen’s Evidence and expose what effect the ‘inoculations’ are having ‘on the ground’. Perhaps they are worried there might be more Dr Sam Whites willing to call out the vaxx ‘project’ so they pick on a workforce they feel they can bully in to submission.
That will be next.
IIRC both the Royal College of Nursing and the GP professional body have stated they will not allow compulsory jabbing of their members.
Have you had any experience working in a Care home?
Yes, 20 years.
Have you had the vaccine?
No.
Fuck off! Next.
Have you had any experience working in a Care home?
No.
Have you had the vaccine?
Yes, I’ve had Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca and a Johnson &Johnson booster shot, just to make sure, plus I never remove my mask.
Fantastic! Can you start in five minutes?
who would have predicted!
EVERYONE should back these care home workers. First it is them, soon it will be us all, and we damn well know there is no scientific justification for this.
Already written to my MP about this but he’s useless and knows already that he’s lost my vote. I guess I’ve shot my bolt.
Just another policy designed to have the primary effect of reducing life expectancy.
https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire
Is this ADE?
Just don’t do it!
The people you want working in care homes are people that have had and recovered from the virus naturally. Passports and mandatory vaccinations are at best a red-herring and at worst will increase infections (as symptom supressed superspreaders)