Florida’s Delta Surge Slows Towards a Peak

Florida’s Delta surge appears to be peaking. The chart below (from this very useful site) shows that, as of the week ending August 12th, the weekly increase in the percentage of Covid tests coming back positive has slowed almost to zero, meaning it should begin to drop soon. Indeed, the positive rate and new reported cases have already begun to fall in the north east of the state.

Since Florida’s Governor Ron DeSantis has refused to impose any new restrictions at all during this surge, having allowed the state of emergency to end in June, the Sunshine State looks set to confirm once again that coronavirus surges are self-limiting and it is not necessary to impose draconian restrictions on the population to prevent hospitals being overwhelmed or ‘hundreds of thousands’ of deaths.

Having had a very low infection rate throughout the spring despite imposing no restrictions, Florida has seen a large surge in infections during the summer since the arrival of the Delta variant, adding to evidence that surges are primarily driven by new variants which disrupt the previously established herd immunity by partially evading the immune response. The end of the surge after a few weeks of renewed spread therefore corresponds to the restoration of herd immunity. If this is correct, we should see new infections drop quickly across the state in the coming weeks.

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JayBee
4 years ago

…and rise in the North East, despite masks etc. there.
As he predicted in his recent speech before veterans.
In Florida, Summer is our Winter anyway.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yep, Summer is when everyone stays inside with the A/C because of rain, himidity and very big BUGS! The only reason Florida residents got flu jabs in December was to prepare for the snow birds from the rest of US bringing their virus.
DeSantis has a brain and uses it. Almost unique for a politician ( maybe along with Obrador).

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Dr Santis has a brain almost as good as President Trump I presume you meant.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Unlike poor Puppet Biden, whose puppet masters’ withdrawal from Afghanistan is going so well.
Is withdrawal from Afghanistan useful to China in any manner, by the way?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Oddly enough, you are probably correct in that comment. Well, there is always a first time!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Sorry. The terms ‘brain’ and ‘Trump’ are unconnected.

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Perhaps I should take a clarity lesson. DeSantis and The Real President of the US Donald Trump are the only hope for our future. I presume the downvoters have consumed the anti Trump media portrail.
I am a Trump supporter.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Thanks for the term “snow birds”! I know that a lot of people of a certain age, probably no longer in work (so not restricted by the rather small number of vacation days), tend to move down to Florida to avoid some of the weather elsewhere. Proper maintenance of A/C to avoid cross- transmission of unwanted things in some places is another subject, especially when recycling is in use.

Julian
4 years ago

Almost like a common cold. Isn’t that what they do? Is anyone actually dying OF covid now? Will we ever find out? I mean, you could test the ill and dying for every virus ever known and you’d find many of them with something or other, possibly often c19 at the moment but if you’d done this two years they would have had other viruses, which may in some cases have contributed to illness or death to a smaller or larger degree. There’s nothing exceptional going on except the testing and the obsession.

ebygum
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

If the evidence coming from Israel is anything to go by, the jabees, even triple ones, seem to be the ones most affected.

Bella Donna
4 years ago

I’m only interested in hospitalisations and deaths, ‘cases’ are unimportant.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

That needs to be properly broken down too – i.e. into those who were admitted to hospital because of it, and those who were tested when admitted for something else (or who caught it in hospital).

With deaths there’s the usual of/with debate – the only useful stats are those for all-cause excess deaths.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

“Imagine wasting thousands of hours of your life obeying COVID lockdown rules instead of just spending about 30 seconds to Google the IFR.” Michael P Senger

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sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

😂

I hear that in the scathing voice of my 14yo

( “Imagine…” being a common way to show disdain it seems right now)

Adamb
4 years ago

Bingo. Watch the lockdown/mask zealots explain away that one.

GroundhogDayAgain
4 years ago

I am pleased there’s the counter-example of Florida. Much harder for the zealots to explain away.

isobar
4 years ago

Spot on! Go DeSantis, a bright light in the Covid Wilderness.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

So here is a very simple explanation that even someone with a low IQ could understand.

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RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

You clearly haven’t had sufficient COVID schooling yet. Everybody knows that mask pores have a different diameter on the inside of a mask than on the outside. That’s why they can block outgoing particles but not incoming ones!

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Speaking of muzzles. I see those nice Tally Ban chappies have told their women in Afganistan, they can go outside provided they wear an old cloth to cover their faces.
Up here in the Scottish gulag, our nice leader has old us we can go outside provided we wear an old rag to cover our faces.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Heroes every last one of them! Me I only think of myself. I’m a disgrace.

ebygum
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

If you are being sarcastic…ok otherwise on a cloth mask there is no difference!
A LOL would have helped me if the former.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

I thought about adding something to indicate that this was a joke. But explaining a joke just ruins it. Face masks are a Chinese fashion fad, nothing more.

Once upon a time in the past, I was a conscript in the German navy. As part of our gas mask training, a guy with a beard (generally tolerated in the navy) was told that he doesn’t necessarily have to shave it off for the mask to be effective, it would be sufficient to generously drench it with vaseline to ensure an airtight fit.

How many beared people with loose face masks are out there? I’m seeing lots of them.

ebygum
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

I appreciate the reply…I thought it was…thanks

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Whoever put together this poster doesn’t seem to realise that virions don’t travel any distance by themselves. The risk is that they will be transported on droplets or aerosol particles. These vary a great deal in size but can easily be 5 microns in diameter or larger. Research shows that a lot of them are trapped by a surgical mask.

Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

If it no longer fits the narrative, the media will just lie by omission, same as they always do. Florida will just disappear from the headlines or they’ll just blow things up with percentages, when 3 people die instead of 1 they’ll scream 300% increase in deaths!

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
4 years ago

If new variants such as delta are partially evading the immune response is this the same in the vaccinated and unvaccinated, or can the figures be broken done to show whether the immune response triggered by vaccination is better or worse than natural immunity?
My bet would be that natural immunity is best as it targets all parts of the virus and not just the protein spike, as well as probably being longer lasting if it involves T-cells as well as antibodies. If this is the case then there is a real danger of most people becoming vaccine dependent, quite possibly what big pharma hoped for all along as it means constant boosters and a constant boost to profits. Having chosen not be be jabbed back in May, everything I’ve read since has only reinforced my belief that it was the correct decision.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Also, what effect do these “vaccines” have on natural immunity? And who is threatened by spike protein shed _ and how?

ebygum
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/videos/dr-ryan-cole-stopthemandate/
Dr Ryan Cole calls them ‘samients’.
He pretty much states what Mike Yeadon said last year, the idea that the immune system wouldn’t recognise slight variations is laughable.
Looking at the evidence from Israel there is a real chance that the vaccines not only don’t stop the virus (or death) but may be priming a response to them.
The next couple of months will show this one way or the other.
Of course we could just treat people with the successful prophylactics being used throughout the world…….?

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Same here, plus all my family.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

And new variants are driven by……
Some think the inoculations drive the new variant. So every time we introduce a booster to deal with a variant will a new surge in cases occur?

The recent surge in Florida has behaved exactly like it did here. God bless Governor DeSantis.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago

“Surges are driven by new variants which partially evade the immune response”. Do they? Or do they just find easy meat in the non naturally immune vaccinated, perhaps particularly the old and the very recently vaccinated, and those remaining who have not had it yet?
It is not a comparison between rates in the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Many of the vaccinated were already naturally immune. Some of the unvaccinated are naturally immune.
Without separating out these categories we learn very little.
The puppet masters seem to have done their best to prevent these categories from being separated out.
I know and have heard first hand of people who got symptomatic Delta who were recently vaccinated. I know Covid virgins who got it first time. All mildly. I have heard of no one in my circles who got it symptomatically though naturally immune. I think I (NI) probably got it a few weeks ago, felt tired for a day and as if going down with something, woke up fine. Obviously I didn’t test.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

Please, please, please can we have DeSantis for UK prime minister!

robnicholson
robnicholson
4 years ago

Would it be reasonable to suggest that without (potentially flawed) mass testing that this wouldn’t have even been on the public’s radar? Have we ever carried out such a massive testing program for respiratory infections in the past? My inference here is that “we’re” causing concern whereas previously we’d have just got on with life?

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  robnicholson

That is absolutely what is going on. A form of self-flagellation or sadomasochism by the government.

RickH
4 years ago

the percentage of Covid tests coming back positive”

… as the base data. Not real infections, illness or deaths.

FFS!!!!

MTF
MTF
4 years ago

Frustratingly the UK version of the virus doesn’t seem to realise it is meant to peak.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

We can prevent a peak by increasing testing and increasing the PCR test CT value to suit the narrative.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Peter W

Why on earth would the government want to do that? Its position is that we have relaxed all restrictions because everything will be alright. To then artificially crank up the cases would be shooting themselves in the foot.