America’s Delta Surge

New Covid infections are surging in America, driven by the Delta variant. The states which reopened in the spring, such as Texas, Mississippi and Georgia, and defied the predictions of catastrophic exit waves, are now seeing surges. Florida, too, which reopened last autumn, is seeing a spike in infections, and hospital admissions are rising.

Reuters takes a look at how states are responding – which is by doing remarkably little, with the appetite for restrictions even in Blue states now that the vaccines are rolled out seemingly much lower than in previous outbreaks.

More than 10,000 patients were hospitalized in Florida as of Sunday, surpassing that state’s record. Louisiana was expected to break its record within 24 hours, prompting Governor John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, to order residents to wear masks again indoors.

“These are the darkest days of this pandemic,” Dr. Catherine O’Neal, Chief medical officer of Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, said at a news conference with Edwards. “We are no longer giving adequate care to patients.”

O’Neal urged Louisianans to get vaccinated, warning that hospitals were overwhelmed. Many nurses were out sick with the virus, she said, leaving the state with a staffing deficit of 6,000 people.

Hospitalisations in Arkansas are also soaring and could eventually break records.

In California, political leaders in eight San Francisco Bay Area counties reinstated mandatory indoor mask orders in public places as of midnight Tuesday morning.

Governors of New York and New Jersey said transport, jail, hospital and nursing home workers would be required to get vaccinated or submit to regular testing. Denver Mayor Michael Hancock said inoculation would be mandatory for the city’s more than 11,000 employees.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo urged bars, restaurants and other private businesses to require that customers be vaccinated before they can enter. Cuomo said vaccines could be made mandatory for nursing home workers, teachers and healthcare workers if case numbers do not drop.

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy suggested he could clamp down even further on residents and businesses.

Ron DeSantis continues to stand firm against mask and vaccine mandates, despite hospital admissions increasing.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a Republican, has taken the opposite stance. He issued an executive order last week barring schools from requiring face coverings, saying parents should make that decision for their children.

District officials in Broward and Gadsden counties, facing a threat by DeSantis to withhold state funds, said on Monday they were dropping mask mandates this fall, the News Service of Florida reported.

Florida has one of the worst outbreaks in the nation and about one-quarter of the country’s hospitalised Covid patients, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Mary Mayhew, head of Florida’s hospital association, said the latest surge sent hospitalisations rising to 10,000 from 2,000 in less than 30 days, although deaths have remained well below peak numbers.

The arrival of the Delta surge in the reopened American states is about as clear a proof as you could ask for that surges are driven not by the lifting of restrictions (if they were you would get the elusive exit wave) but by the arrival of new variants. Why? Because the new variant partially evades the herd immunity that brought the previous wave to an end. The surge will last until the herd immunity is topped up again (as explained here).

How long will the current surges last? The last time I posed this question, about the U.K. Delta surge, it turned out the peak had already occurred several days before and the data reporting was just catching up. Will that be the same this time?

New infections do appear to have slowed in recent days in the early Delta hotspots of Arkansas and Missouri. Since neither state imposed new restrictions and only around 40% of the populations are fully vaccinated, the outcomes in these states should be a good demonstration of what a localised Delta epidemic looks like when no or minimal measures are taken and vaccine coverage is relatively low. As so often, comparisons between U.S. states with different vaccine coverage and policy responses will be illuminating.

The spikes in the various states should peak soon – if the U.K. is a guide then they are due to top out in the next week or two, as they should only last a few weeks and not get much above the winter peak (depending how much testing is being done, of course). As and when they do, it will be yet more evidence that lockdowns are unnecessary to end Covid outbreaks or ‘control’ infections.

Stop Press: Sweden has recorded an average of just 0.6 Covid deaths per day in the past two weeks, MailOnline reports, despite never imposing a mask mandate. However, the country may be in the foothills of its Delta surge (see below – its case reporting follows an odd weekly cyclical pattern) and it will be interesting to see what they do if it spikes. One to watch.

Stop Press 2: Other countries on their way down are Portugal, Malta and Netherlands. Heavily vaccinated Israel is still rising while reopened Iceland may have peaked.

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Ceriain
4 years ago

New Covid infections

Will, repeat after me:

Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!

Now, over to you.

Splattt
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

You missed the bit about the surge in hospitalisations and deaths?

rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

The usual summer heat bump in hospitalizations and mortality, as every year.

Probably aggravated by the fact that those with falling incomes, due to lockdown etc, are unable to afford to keep their aircon on as much as when their incomes were higher,

The article stresses that this ‘wave’ is in the southern states, where temperatures are of course higher.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Stress is the second biggest risk factor for Covid. Lockdowns and restrictions cause stress.

I am still waiting for news of overall mortality in South Dakota compared to other states. That for me would be a good test. (Belarus too, if you can get reliable information).
And what about the countries/areas with the lowest “vaccination” rates? How is their mortality standing up compared to previous years?

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Lockdowns also hurt the immune system more directly, by making them flabby for lack of exercise. An immune system keeps fit by fighting off infectious agents from other people.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

And not forgetting that people who don’t go out as much have less exposure to sunlight and thus have less Vitamin D (unless they are taking supplements).

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Ah yes, a carrot a day keeps the virus away. You can also wave your arms. All those deaths in ICU wards are because the fools skipped their carrots and arm waves! Obviously!

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Strawman argument. Vitamin D (and other vitamins and trace elements) and exercise strengthen the immune system – only a fool would believe otherwise.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

The key insight here is these silly measures are not enough to prevent any infection. Otherwise we would already have noted and declared them a cure. Trust me, there was plenty of vitamin D going on in Delhi, and the people there also are lean and do walk every day quite a bit compared with those fat slogs in the West.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Boosting the immune system is a ‘silly measure’? When you shake your head vigorously, have you ever wondered what causes the knocking sound?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

My understanding about India:

  • they have a much lower IFR than Britain;
  • there are serious pollution problems in some Indian cities;
  • there is an issue of poor diet among many of the poor in India;
  • there is an issue of poor health provision in India;
  • there was an issue with local climatic conditions at that time of year;
  • The large Hindu population had recently been bathing in a dirty river in crowded conditions;
  • Indian cities suffer from relatively crowded, unsanitary conditions.

Is this correct? Note also that Norway and Finland, which famously did “better” than neighbours Sweden (and Denmark) have a particularly high rate of vitamin D in the population.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Also, what happened to the predictions of the populations of India and Brazil being “Wiped out”?

FarligGods
4 years ago

Obviously never happened so they stopped reporting… Nothing there for any further scaremongering

Rogerborg
4 years ago

If it doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t lead.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago

Most (not all) of India uses Ivermectin. Does Brazil?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  chris c

No idea, does anyone else know?

Nessimmersion
4 years ago

India: ” Cases in Delhi, where Ivermectin was begun on April 20, dropped from 28,395 to just 2,260 on May 22. This represents an astounding 92% drop. Likewise, cases in Uttar Pradesh have dropped from 37,944 on April 24 to 5,964 on May 22 – a decline of 84%.  Delhi and Uttar Pradesh followed the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) guidance published April 20, 2021, which called for dosing of .2 mg per kg of Ivermectin per body weight for three days. This amounts to 15 mg per day for a 150-pound person or 18 mg per day for a 200-pound individual. The other three Indian states that adopted it are all down as well. Goa is down from 4,195 to 1,647, Uttarakhand is down from 9,624 to 2,903, and Karnataka is down from 50,112 to 31,183. Goa adopted a pre-emptive policy of mass Ivermectin prevention for the entire adult population over age 18 at a dose of 12 mg daily for five days. Meanwhile, Tamil Nadu announced on May 14 they were outlawing Ivermectin in favor of the politically correct Remdesivir. As a result, Tamil Nadu’s cases are up in the same time frame from April 20… Read more »

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Thank you for that comprehensive and illuminating reply.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Likewise UK cases have been halved within a week. With no Ivermectin use whatsoever.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

How do you know that no ivermectin has been used? I’ve got some and I know plenty of people who have it, too.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

“an astounding 92% drop after ivermectin was begun”.

As you won’t hear on the BBC…

I wonder what it would take for Peking Piffle to listen, never mind act appropriately on this?

rayc
rayc
4 years ago

I dunno, did you invent these predictions yourself?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Turns out that rumours of India’s death have been greatly exaggerated. Their official figures are equivalent to about twenty one thousand UK Covid deaths – if you believe such estimates. You can actually go onto Worldometer’s India population page and watch the population steadily increasing from about 1,395 million.

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

And the annual ‘July Effect‘ being a factor.
For those who don’t know what that is – junior doctors starting residency in July, making mistakes and increasing mortality rates. Happens every year, and it was exploited last year to fit the Covid narrative as well.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

That’s an excellent observation!

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

In the case of Florida at least, the July effect is very small (see attached image). Last July Florida peaked at 50% excess all cause mortality. That’s an enormous increase. Furthermore it has remained with a large all cause excess mortality ever since. https://covid19florida.mystrikingly.com/deaths

florida deaths by month.png
MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

What summer heat bump? Deaths in the Southern US States usually peak in the winter just like the other states but less pronounced (different of course last year).

Source of chart: http://www.flpublichealth.com/VSprov/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=ProvReports&radReport=T16&drpYear=2019

florida deaths by month.png
rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Explain why there are currently no delta wave hospitalizations in southern Europe then, Sherlock. Highest temperatures ever.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

Hospitalisations for what reason?

Deaths from what?

BungleIsABogan
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You mustn’t ask those questions, the answers will spoil the story!
Lol.

Laurence
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

You missed the bit about the 99.97% of the under 75s who survived (and 99% of the over 75s compared to over 10% who die every year anyway)

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Never let the truth spoil a good story.

philipat
philipat
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

So here inside this article is a chart of the latest US data for “new cases” (that is, a positive PCR test) and daily deaths (WITH Covid but not necessarily FROM Covid). Draw your own conclusions there appears to be no increase in deaths, suggesting again that the “Delta variant” has been over-hyped as part of the ongoing FEAR!!! campaign.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/experts-move-goalposts-declare-herd-immunity-threshold-now-90-due-delta

 

lordsnooty
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

perhaps Ceriain thinks people are dying of pcr tests?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

It’s hard to know exactly what people are dying of. That information is probably deliberately obfuscated.

That’s why the only meaningful approach is to look at all-cause mortality and see if anything exceptional is happening. Which at the moment it is not, and taking 2020 and 2021 as a whole there is not. There was a notable increase in 2020 spring, and again in early 2021 in the UK. The first increase one could term the “first wave” of covid, the second correlates with the vaccine rollout.

Having established that not much exceptional is happening, one ought to move on and go back to 2019 and look into effective treatments for covid and forget all the other nonsense that costs trillions and doesn’t work

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The government killed many people by the following mechanisms:

1) fast tracking so called “covid” patients to mechanical ventilators. Reports from New York suggest that more than 80% of those ventilated in the first wave died – see section 3 of this link https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

2) using novel toxic so called “antiviral” drug Remdesivir to make it look as if people were developing pneumonia when it was actually the drugs causing kidney failure which led to what looked like pneumonia but which was actually pulmonary adema. Remdesivir is still being used int the UK for covid but the much safer ivermectin is BANNED. Dr Bryan Ardis has provided great information on – see this interview https://www.bitchute.com/video/jv3GSOcoIGCP/

3) killing people in the nursing homes with Midazolam and morphine, starvation, dehydration, and outright neglect – see this lawyer’s account for information going back months https://twitter.com/awakenedof

4) preventing access to basic medical treatment and screenings by making the Nazified Health Service a one disease only organisation. Everyone else was left to rot and die and basically told they were not important unless they had “covid”

5) terrorising people and creating an overall atmosphere of fear and despair

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Apricot kernels are banned from being sold as a food by the EU whilst chemotherapy is encouraged. To me, I must say this (and many other acts that can be traced back to big pharma) look like a reckless and criminal pursuit of profit. Ivermectin being banned fits the pattern.

David101
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

They are also based on PCR test results.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

There is no such ‘bit’ (aka ‘evidence’) – just the usual tittle-tattle.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  Splattt

doesn’t explain if the ‘well below’ peak deaths are in the very elderly with many other illnesses or in the healthy – is the FL all cause deaths much higher than the norm? people will continue to die of old age with or without sars 2

Mary Mayhew, head of Florida’s hospital association, said the latest surge sent hospitalisations rising to 10,000 from 2,000 in less than 30 days, although deaths have remained well below peak numbers.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

You missed the bit where it was asserted in passing but not quantified or evidenced.

That’s not how we work round these here parts.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

Yes, obviously, the morons frequenting this site cannot understand that, until maybe they land in a hospital themselves (but I suspect they would explain it away as “stress” or “heat” while gasping for air in ICU).

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

With vax adverse reaction symptoms due to spike protein appearing similar to covid symptoms and likely being picked up by dodgy tests as covid, how many of these actually are covid?

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Stop hyping the surge we all know the ultimate plan

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Brett_McS
4 years ago

Andrew Torba nails it. I have seen a few articles around a similar theme from a slightly different angle: that this is the state fighting back against the technological revolutions that are making it less and less relevant, trying to keep itself in the picture.

Back in the ’70s Anthony DeJasay wrote a groundbreaking book called The State, which posited that the state could be thought of as, in effect, a person, with motivations and desires of its own. What is going on definitely seems to be a kind of temper tantrum of something that is losing its grip.

FarligGods
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Torba speaks some sense but he’s way over the top pushing his religion and that puts a number of people off I’m afraid…

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Positive PCT tests in the UK went from about 2,000 a day in May to over 50,000 in July. Do we really think that there was a sudden rise and now a sudden fall in false positives?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Positive PCT tests in the UK went from about 2,000 a day in May to over 50,000 in July.”

I’m not overly bothered about false positives. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that there are some false positives but that there are not many, so the rise if a genuine rise in something or other.

What does this rise tell us? What action should we take as a result of such a rise?

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

By something or other you presumably mean an infection of some kind? The answer presumably is to identify it and try to limit it. Luckily we do a lot of genomic sequencing in the UK so we have a pretty good idea what the infection is. We already know the many things we are trying to do to limit it.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

By something or other you presumably mean an infection of some kind?”

I have no idea. You tell me. My default position is that these statistics are largely meaningless, for a long list of reasons all of which have been discussed ad nauseam on this forum since March 2020.

Imagine you are the PM. Someone tells you +ve PCR tests have gone from 2,000 to 50,000 in the space of 3 months. What do you do, or not do, as a result, and why?

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I have no idea. You tell me. 

Well the obvious explanation is that the number of +ve test results have gone up and down so sharply because there of an outbreak of Coronavirus infection. The tests look for a protein sequence that is unique to the virus. Genomic sequencing of samples with positive results reveals the virus is present. Virus infections can increase and decrease extremely quickly. People are ending up in hospital with a diagnosis of Covid with about a two week lag.

In the absence of an alternative explanation it seems overwhelming likely that this is the correct one.

Imagine you are the PM. Someone tells you +ve PCR tests have gone from 2,000 to 50,000 in the space of 3 months. What do you do, or not do, as a result, and why?

That is a different question. I would accept that the tests indicate a rise in Coronavirus infections – it seems blindingly obvious. There are many possible responses and I don’t have time to go down that rabbit hole.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

What is the significance of a “coronavirus infection”?
What exactly is a “diagnosis of covid” and what is its significance?

I would contend that very little of this information is meaningful, useful, or accurate. And that is intentional.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Simple bottom line : a PCR test cannot detect infection.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  RickH

I guess if you keep testing very elderly peeps there will always be a decent ”died within 28 days of a positive test” count as peeps die of old age – genius really

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

What does that mean? How close does the link have to be between condition and test before you will accept it? Consider

  • The PSA test for prostate cancer
  • The fecal blood test for bowel cancer
  • The antigen/antibody test for HIV

They are all in standard use round the world. None of them test directly for the condition but have a probabilistic relationship – very similar to the Covid PCR test.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The significance is twofold. One you can pass it on to others – which is about the only way you can explain the speedy up and down. Two there is a chance of becoming very unwell.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Yes, covid is caused by an infectious virus and it can make you very ill/kill you.

The connection with PCR testing stats on random sections of the population done with varying degrees of sensitivity with the reality of the virus & the illness it causes is tenuous to say the least, and even if there is some kind of connection, how useful this information is in informing public policy is debatable given that most/all of the measures are futile. At best, mass testing might give you a 2-week head start in how many hospital beds are likely to be needed, but the link is shaky.

There’s only any point in measuring things if those measures are used to make decisions with, decisions that help the situation. That hasn’t happened.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I still ask – what better explanation do you have for the positive test results than a wave of infections?

I might add – do you deny that a wave of infections would lead to a wave of positive test results?

I will leave the question of how useful that knowledge is to another time.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Depends what you mean by infection. Does this “infection” make you ill? I think we can say it does, sometimes, but not that often. It may sometimes make you ill enough to feel ill, sometimes ill enough to be infectious to others and sometimes ill enough to go to hospital because of the infection (and not for other reasons). Do the statistics we currently get shown tell us what proportion of these positive tests leads to the various outcomes described? I don’t think so. It’s meaningless. “Knowledge” – well it’s knowledge that X thousand people returned a positive result for a test, but it’s without context. Yet it makes the headlines.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

By an infection I mean the virus is sufficiently established to pass it on to someone else. Symptoms are not required.

Meanwhile I note that you still have not provided any kind of alternative explanation for the wave in positive tests.

Malcolm Ramsay
Malcolm Ramsay
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The tests look for a protein sequence that is unique to the virus.

Can you tell us how it was established that the protein sequence being looked for is unique to this virus?

Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
4 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

No they can’t, partial sequence in the original China paper that the WHO followed.. In that paper, a PCR test with a CT over 34 or higher actually

Plot twist, we have the genomic sequences in our bodies already..

Virusesarenotcontagious.com

The cell creates a virus, its the ‘clean up crew’ created by the cell to eliminate the last of the toxicity present..

Its specific to each individual human, isn’t contagious, and any replication of symptoms in people close to each other isn’t down to the virus..

It might well be the releasing of toxicity from a person which induces the same symptoms, but it’s certainly not a virus – the level of toxin in a virus to induce symptoms would have to be so large, what can kill can also cure – dosage is the key no?

Besides, is a virus alive, dead, innate.. If its alive and comes out of our body, what keeps it alive?

It has no nucleus, respiratory system or digestive tract

Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
4 years ago
Reply to  Samurai Jack

Just to add.. Our body will detoxify at different stages, a cyclic basis perhaps.. Hence flu season as we call it..

Changes in temp, humidity, pressure, season et al can all instigate or signal the body to dump it’s toxins

Symptoms that appear to be contagious are to do with the level of toxicity in the environment, if we live, eat, breathe and sleep together.. Chances are we will detoxify in the same periods..

If we didn’t detoxify, we’d probably be dead…

In the same instance, if it was a killes virus, never seen before, anyone that caught it would experience the same level of infection, end result..

The diamond cruise ship, worldometers stats, they tell me, there was already pre existing immunity in the population.. Judging by the petri dish environment and only 13 from over 800 passengers who died with, of or involving?

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

OK. I guess it is possible that viral RNA crops up elsewhere and the scientific world didn’t know about it. However, we are talking sequences of 60 odd base pairs (https://www.fda.gov/media/138818/download). It would be quite an extraordinary coincidence if such a sequence came from another source.

Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

In the July 2020 CDC ‘RT PCR’ PDF, page 38 maybe? ?

Since there are no available quantified isolates of the 2019 NCov virus available at the time of this report

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Stop trying to talk sense int o people who have long committed to nonsense and are ready to defend it at all cost to maintain their beliefs.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I thought we were leaving this site for your own mental health?

djaustin
4 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

Just a point of infomation – the PCR tests for THREE separate sections of mRNA from three different parts of the viral genome; Spike, Nucleocapsid and Orf (open reading frame). The sequences are tested against gene banks for homology to other sequences. So yes, I am afraid that they have been tested for uniqueness against all species in the gene bank (of all species tested to date). That notwithstanding, for 60 base pairs the probability that having three separate matches to three different areas of the genome is vanishingly small and effectively zero.

UK variant did not amplify the S gene. All others have done so.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Genome sequencing does not reveal presence of viruses. It determines the base structure of some bit of RNA (or DNA). Presence of viruses can be established by successful cultivation of them from a sample.

The official “Get tested now!”-leaftlet I got a while back stated that people who had a positive PCR test in the last 90 days should not get tested again to avoid false positives. Consequently, 50.000 people testing positive means they were probably infected with Sars-CoV2 at some random time during the last 3 months.

Lastly, considering the extremely low number (about 0.08% of the population of the UK) and that these ‘cases’ were distributed all over England, the most likely explanation for sudden rises and falls is happened to test someone who was infected within the lasy 90 days by chance.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

 the most likely explanation for sudden rises and falls is happened to test someone who was infected within the lasy 90 days by chance.”

We were going along at a fairly consistent 2000 a day for a couple of months. Then it shot up to 50,000 in the course of one month because they happened by chance to test 48,000 people who had the virus sometime in the last 90 days – while presumably failing to do that consistently for two months beforehand?

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

An infection that isn’t particularly deadly for anyone in good health. Even the official data show that an 85-year-old who develops Covid-19 has a 95% of survival.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

That’s the thing that has been missing all along. Covid causes severe disease and death in a minority of the population. How to not be in that minority is where emphasis should have been all along.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

What does this rise tell us?”

A surge in bits of RNA that have a questionable relationship to any virus.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Without knowing whether they kept the number of cycles at the same level for testing during those periods your statistic is meaningless.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It depends what you think they’re testing for.

If 45 cycles was testing for active disease, it would be significant. If it’s picking up fragments that represent non-symptomatic levels, or remnants after recovery, super, that’s what you’d expect from any endemic coronavirus.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

And PCR tests don’t work!. When will they ever learn?

BungleIsABogan
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Never.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Great lesson about PCR from real expert:

Prof Ulrike Kämmerer : Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium – Day 1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YwCYrYUBmINa/

Great information looking at data which suggests strongly the notion that there was a pandemic is a fraud:

Prof Denis Rancourt : Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium – Day 1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gbbG9pgWInee/

Londo Mollari
4 years ago

The vaccine is the variant.

Brett_McS
4 years ago

Rolling out vaccines in the teeth of a pandemic is a great way of creating new, vaccine resistant, variants, especially with RNA viruses. The emphasis should always have been on treatments, not vaccines. Pfizer obviously realize this as are they bringing out such a treatment in tablet form. Probably a mix of Ivermectin and enough of something else to make it patentable and able to be sold at 1000X of cost. Another nice little earner.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

or a quinone harvested from the Nigella seeds, can’t be the one used in Tonic or malaria tablets though as that one got studies (and fraud) designed to make it look ineffective.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Halt, promoting antibody dependent enhancement is a dangerous conspiracy theo-

[Checks weekend notes]

Correction, antibody dependent enhancement is now factual and terrifying, which is why we need more vaccines and more lockdowns. As you were.

svetlana-uvarova
svetlana-uvarova
4 years ago

If it had twice the chance of natural covid to kill us, there would now be, what, 3m dead vaccine recipients?

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

Stop hyping the surge we all know the ultimate plan

I Tried My Best To Warn You This Was Going To Happen -Almost two years ago I published an article on the Gab News blog about Silicon Valley building a social credit system for the West. By Andrew Torba
https://news.gab.com/2021/08/02/i-tried-my-best-to-warn-you-this-was-going-to-happen/

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Annie
4 years ago

Free states, hold your nerve.

Laurence
4 years ago

Always remember two things:

We are the lucky ones who defied the odds to survive the deadly virus in 2020 – that makes me one of just 99.97% of those under 75 (although 100,000 under 75s died from other causes). My 3 kids all survived despite the higher but still horrific slaughter of 0.0005% of the under 30s last year !

THIS IS NOT FLU. Well, not if you live in an affluent Western country – Interesting figures shown by Simon Wood this morning ( a statistician who believes in Statistics as opposed to the promotion of government policy) showing that flu and pneumonia killed more people than COVID worldwide in 2020. But even in the UK, excess deaths in 2020 were 54,600 (per Institute and Faculty of Actuaries – AAMR basis) including those killed needlessly by the lockdown, whereas we had 51,000 excess deaths in the Winter of 2017/18 (per ONS).

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Boris: “IT’S OBVIOUSLY AN EMERGENCY LOCK EVERYONE UP!!!”

A Y M
4 years ago

Still feel you are playing their game here.
This isn’t a football match where we watch the game and try and guess who might win, The game is being rigged right in front of you. The Ref is constantly lying and the commentators are gaslighting you telling you a handball is not happening when the opposing side is carrying the ball in both hands.
I really liked this site for a long time but it hasn’t progressed and noticed the rigged game and figured out why this is happening. Instead it just stays in the stands and reports on the unfair play as it happens.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Very much this! ♤♤♤♤ expresses the issue here brilliantly.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

Will somebody with ultimate authority PLEASE stand up and state, look this is a G of F pathogen that we have very little idea about in terms of the length of its life. We DO know from 16 months of the world’s having faced it, that it is not so lethal. It is therefore set to die a natural death and we have to live with it until it does so. Therefore vaccinating is useless. Let it run its course. Meanwhile keep yourselves as healthy as you can with nutrition and lifestyle choices commensurate with that idea.

DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
4 years ago

We had masks and restrictions and Delta took off. It’s almost like there is nothing we can do save vaccinate and gets lots of sunshine and fresh air.

In the American south and southwest, summers are miserable (too many business trips in my old life). It drives people inside into AC. And that is a perfect breeding ground for Covid transmission. We had a different but related issue in May-June which was so wet and cold that it kept us indoors, windows shut. Regardless Delta will spread. Nothing Biden or Newsom or Johnson can do, including holding their breath, will stop that. Vaccinate those at risk, keep doing healthy things and move forward. A virus with an IFR of between .1-.25 isn’t the thing to be focused on. Plenty of other major issues that need our attention.

FarligGods
4 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

like cancer which kills 450 people a day, why not throw all the money wasted on convid into cancer research??
Eh no, that wouldn’t do would it, can’t have people being cured & not requiring expensive treatments in vain hope…

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

If so called vaccines worked, why is it that last year without vaccines less than 10 people a day were dying with/of the virus, but now with vaccines more than 130/day are dying of it?

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The obvious difference would be that – this year – people are dying of asymptomatic COVID, that is, within 28 days of a positive test but without ever getting sick. Last year, people without symptoms weren’t being tested.

Atters
4 years ago

How do they “test” for the delta variant?

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Atters

With something we all know doesn’t work.
The whole thing is a smoke and mirrors, wonky testademic
Democrats are so desperate that they are discriminating against their core voters. More blacks and latinos do not have vaccine than any other ethnic group, yet they bring in mandated vaccine passes. Its a sign of desperation before collapse.

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Atters

They don’t they just make it up.

Milos
4 years ago

Aside everything (PCR test positive does not mean sick, hospitalized or dead from c19, IFR~0.2% for c19, etc.), these US states reopened much earlier. What does the current “surge” have to do with that? If reopening many months before was to cause anything, it should have happened very soon after reopening, not half a year, year after.

PS. 2+2=𝛿 (delta), 𝛿=5.

Encierro
4 years ago

Mean while in Wuhan, China testing is going to be started again. Headlines scream Covid outbreak spreads. When in reality when reading beyond those headline that it is suspected that tens of people may have Covid.Hardly an outbreak is it?

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

It’s their attempt at stirring up fear in the west to keep us in lockdown. The XiBots have been very active on Twitter, apparently. Worked before.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Strange distribution of covid deaths in the US.
Not only do blue states have more, but within states , blue districts have more. For instance Florida’s current delta ‘surge’ is predominantly occurring in MiamiDade and Broward counties, blue counties. Not much at all over on the Gulf Coast.
Make of that what you want.

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

It’s the Blue Flu.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Are you talking total deaths since the start of the epidemic? I believe that right now the highest death rates are for the most part in red states. These are deaths per 100,000 and daily average deaths over the last seven days. Arkansas Deaths per 100,000: 0.58 Daily average deaths: 17.4 Nevada Deaths per 100,000: 0.38 Daily average deaths: 11.6 Louisiana Deaths per 100,000: 0.34 Daily average deaths: 16 Missouri Deaths per 100,000: 0.29 Daily average deaths: 18 Florida Deaths per 100,000: 0.27 Daily average deaths: 58.4 Wyoming Deaths per 100,000: 0.25 Daily average deaths: 1.4 Mississippi Deaths per 100,000: 0.23 Daily average deaths: 6.9 Montana Deaths per 100,000: 0.17 Daily average deaths: 1.9 Arizona Deaths per 100,000: 0.16 Daily average deaths: 11.6 Alabama Deaths per 100,000: 0.15 Daily average deaths: 7.6 Tennessee Deaths per 100,000: 0.14 Daily average deaths: 9.7 Texas Deaths per 100,000: 0.14 Daily average deaths: 39.9 Utah Deaths per 100,000: 0.14 Daily average deaths: 4.6 North Carolina Deaths per 100,000: 0.12 Daily average deaths: 13 Oklahoma Deaths per 100,000: 0.11 Daily average deaths: 4.4 Alaska Deaths per 100,000: 0.1 Daily average deaths: 0.7 California Deaths per 100,000: 0.1 Daily average deaths: 39 Indiana Deaths per 100,000:… Read more »

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

and as I said the deaths in Florida are predominantly in MiamiDade and Broward counties, both blue counties. I haven’t bothered to look at Texas but I would wager the same effect there as well.
I note that the Dakotas both have very high death rates at the moment ( sic).

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

You said two things: that blue states have more deaths and blue counties have more deaths. I have produced the figures that show the first is wrong. How about you produce the figures to show the second is right?

jingleballix
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It would very interesting to see how the above list correlates to a list of states showing vaccine uptake rate.

Is it possible that having the jab makes the illness worse – in younger people especially?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Would be interesting to see say 2019s deaths per week charts to see if there’s a detectable excess, I doubt it.

FarligGods
4 years ago

yes, all of these stats need to be compared retrospectively with what is “normal”… One issue is that we didn’t do all this stupid testing before classifying a summer cold as a delta variant..

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

… and still SARS CoV-2 refuses to be other than an infection of low consequence. Except in psycho-political terms (the real infection).

People like you who are scared of the fairies need to go to bed and just dream on there.

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Didn’t the blue counties maintain restrictions over the winter, in defiance of De Santis?

Will
Will
4 years ago

Excellent news for America as people will develop immunity before the winter. The world should be having covid parties to spread the virus as far as possible while everyone is full of vitamin D.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

As I previously pointed out, summer in states like Florida is a season of high humidity and very big bugs. People tend to huddle by the aircon indoors. Its winter when they come out to play.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

Reuters – that bastion of balanced unbiased facts…….you’re having a giraffe.

Julian
4 years ago

“with the appetite for restrictions even in Blue states now that the vaccines are rolled out seemingly much lower than in previous outbreaks.”

Vaxx passports in New York anyone?

Mandatory vaxx for certain jobs?

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

It is no different from the surge in the UK. It will peak then bottom out. More proof lockdowns, social distancing and masks have no effect on the invisible virus and its scariants. Ride it out guys, it is a common cold virus. If it was anything else we would all be dead by now.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-fully-vaccinated-one-third-covid-england.html

No wonder they state Relative risk ratios because the Absolute risk ratios are both negligible.

“The study also found double vaccinated people may be less likely to pass on the virus to others than those who have not received a vaccine.”

Notice it doesn’t say how it works this un-fact out. “MAY” is MSM codeword for “I’d like you to believe this but there’s zero evidence”. I just substitute the word WON’T for MAY in MSM narratives now.
It then goes on to say the US government leaked a doc saying they’re more likely to spread the hobgoblin if you’re jabbed.

Also forgot to add… It doesn’t ever compare jabbed against people who recovered… Now that’s the REAL number people should look for.

Also there’s no breakdown on ages (since COVID is age dependent) which makes the whole “study” pointless.

Pavlov Bellwether
4 years ago

Interesting to see how this progresses – Canada, Alberta – Patrick King vs Deena Hinshaw: “The CMOH (Chief Medical Officer of Health) has no material evidence” (That Covid19 exists) – https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html

RickH
4 years ago

More case garbage. After eighteen months we’re still getting this stuff, coupled with the patent rubbish about variants (aka ‘same-iants).

Note the total absence of the one real indicator in the graphs – mortality.

This repetitious government-inspired nonsense is getting beyond tedious.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

and it should be ordered ALL CAUSE mortality to put it in context…

mishmash
4 years ago

“It is a much younger age group that is getting hospitalised [in Florida]”

Consequences of the vaccines.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

On CNN the National Institutes of Health head, Dr Francis Collins said

“Parents of unvaccinated kids should be thoughtful about this and the recommendation is to wear masks there as well. I know that’s uncomfortable. I know it seems weird, but it is the best way to protect your kids.”

The NIH director says that vaccinated parents should be wearing masks *at home* to protect their kids, who have essentially zero risk of dying from COVID.

Certifiable!

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

On the other side of the world, but linked by a ‘common purpose’, Queensland Chief Health Officer, Jeannette Young said

“If you’re a grandparent of one of these kids, one of these households, and you haven’t been vaccinated, please don’t go anywhere near your grandkids,”

Certifiable!

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

the recommendation is to wear masks there as well. I know that’s uncomfortable’.

He also knows it it doesn’t stop people catching or transmitting any virus. What is it with these people – how can they sleep at night!?

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago

If Reuters told me it was Wednesday, I’d have to check my calendar before believing it!

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Could we see premises that do not insist on pseudo-medical nonsense in order for customers to enter could start putting yellow stars in their windows?

Catee
4 years ago

I’d rather see a yellow smiley face.

McNamara
McNamara
4 years ago

When I see the word “surge” used I immediately discount anything that follows. It will be lazy journalism. These are not cases, these are positive tests, with false positives and bogus results. And genuine positive tests might mean only a sniffle.

String
4 years ago
Reply to  McNamara

Yep. also few seem to be accounting for the ‘surge’ in people approaching the southern border. 210k illegal aliens apprehended in July alone. something like 100k of these in TX. Wonder what Sleepy Joe thinks the impact of this is having on “covid cases” – not that anyone in the MSM would bother to ask…

RickH
4 years ago

Just got out the binoculars again.

18 months on – and I still can’t see those bodies in the street, or the constant to-and-fro of mortuary wagons.

Just a few normal mild/moderate infections

Funny that.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The MSM keep crying ‘Wolf!’ – it must be approaching the time when people simply stop believing it?

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Fingers crossed.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
― H.L. Mencken

He died in 1956 so you never seem to run out of suckers to pretend to be experts to.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7805.H_L_Mencken

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago

Cases, schmases.

Wind up the PCR threshold, more +ve results, Wind down the threshold, fewer cases. Repeat as required to suit political purpose.

Does the coronvirus ‘test’ distinguish between coronavirii, such as SARS-Cov-2 and the one causing the common cold (actually several types of virii are involved).

Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

According to some sources, the PCR tests are quite specific when comparing SARS-CoV-2 with other human coronaviruses: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/protocol-v2-1.pdf?sfvrsn=a9ef618c_2

Some sources suggest antibody testing accuracy will be limited due to cross-reactivity (this paper suggests herpes reactivation or malaria prevalence could be linked): https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/1/pdfs/20-3281.pdf

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

I read that different PCR tests react to/notice different pieces of “the virus”, mainly 3 different “sections”, one of which is the spike protein, which is fairly specific to SARS-19, ( and also the bit which the vaccines trigger people’s bodies into producing …. ), but the other two pieces may well be less specific to the SARS coronavirii. Tests should ( according to best practice ) need to find all three or at the very least two of the segments, but apparently a lot of them ( its cheaper ) return a positive result even if only identify/”find” one section …. ( and of course most are using far too many cycles, and PCR doesn’t /can’t test for/identify illness/infection anyway ).

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

A NEW STATE OF SEGREGATION: VACCINE CARDS ARE JUST THE BEGINNING

http://www.wakingtimes.com/a-new-state-of-segregation-vaccine-cards-are-just-the-beginning/?utm_source=Waking+Times+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=0b5af29a70-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_25f1e048c1-0b5af29a70-54853601

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