Plans to Bar Unvaccinated University Students From Lectures and Halls Shelved

Earlier this week, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab told university students they would have to wait until September to find out whether they would be required to show proof of vaccination to attend lectures and to live in halls. But the plans, which have received heavy criticism from the University and College Union (UCU) and the National Union of Students (NUS), have now been shelved, according to reports. BBC News has the story.

The idea of making vaccines compulsory for university students… was not ruled out by either Education Minister Vicky Ford or Downing Street when asked about it earlier this week.

And asked whether vaccination would be mandatory for students returning to halls of residence, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said a decision would be taken in September. 

“We will certainly make sure university students have advance warning, of course we’re going to be mindful of this,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Thursday.

But now the idea of requiring students in England to show proof of vaccination to attend lectures or stay in halls of residence has been shelved, the BBC has been told.

The Governments of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are in charge of their own coronavirus rules and education policy. 

Unions have been critical of making vaccines mandatory for university students. 

The UCU previously said this would be wrong and “hugely discriminatory against those who are unable to be vaccinated” as well as for international students. 

And the NUS had called the idea “appalling”, accusing the Government of “lining students up as scapegoats”. …

From the end of September, ministers have said people will need proof of full vaccination to attend nightclubs and other crowded venues in England. 

The full details of the plan are yet to be seen but an NHS Covid Pass – which you can obtain electronically or as a letter – will be used as proof.

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Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

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stewart
4 years ago

It’s on. Now it’s off. It’ll be back on soon enough.

We all know how this plays out.

And for now the move has served its purpose which is to continue to push in people’s minds the idea that without a vaccine they won’t be able to lead normal lives.

I bet if they did a (genuine) poll they would find that more people believe that vaccines will eventually be compulsory for university students even if they are now saying they won’t.

It’s the incessant psychological torture of an already demoralised population.

dante
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Yeah it’s the Recommend, Deny, Mandate strategy that Government uses and was described in Laura Dodsworth’s book.

First a Government Minister will recommend that University students must be double Vaxxed getting the idea out there in people’s minds.

Then they deny, (where we currently are), no we would never do that. But the thought is now embedded.

Then they mandate. Folk are left thinking, how did that happen!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  dante

Or they’ll do it indirectly by getting the universities to be the ones insisting. Not that this would be a difficult sell as universities seem pretty keen on it anyway.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Ah, students will have something worth protesting. Far worse than the fees!

Puddleglum
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I fear that times have bred a more compliant form of student.

Less government
4 years ago
Reply to  dante

They are waiting until they are committed to rental accommodation contracts and trapped. The then won’t have much choice…..

RickH
4 years ago

The sad thing is that I would bet that a majority of ‘solid citizens’ would still back the idea if asked.

… and, I guess, a pretty large number of students would also go along with it.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

That may not be a foregone conclusion. In the US a recent poll showed 71% were opposed to mandatory vaccination. The remaining 29% included a substantial number of don’t knows, but the exact details now escape me.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I hope you’re right. I admit to being on the pessimistic side of the spectrum – but only because my more pessimistic forecasts have generally proved correct.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I can report that this does not apply to US Universities.
My son had to have double vaccines to continue with his phd at Denver, no-one is allowed on campus without full vaccination,. This is typical I am sorry to say.
No vax, no acceptance, no visa renewal, no admittance.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I’m sure you are right – but I bet if you asked the same people whether there is solid statistical evidence that masks and lockdowns work, and what the IFR is for different age groups, they would get all the answers utterly wrong.

Basically, they support vaccine compulsion, but in many cases on the basis of a completely incorrect understanding of the situation. Such has been the success of the lies and propaganda campaign!

beancounter
beancounter
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The general population has no idea of the number of people who have died of/with Covid; last year a survey reported that a large percentage of the respondents believed that a huge percentage of the population had died, far more than the 70,000 or so at the time.

ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

The only data worth looking at is the overall age standardised death rate (deaths per thousand) and that was slightly below the 30-year average in 2020 according to ONS data. Getting drawn into a discussion about how many did or didn’t die of COVID-19 is a trap best avoided, for example because 70,000 still sounds like a large number when looked at in isolation, and it may not even be an accurate number anyway.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

“The only data worth looking at is the overall age standardised death rate”

It doesn’t have to be age-standardized (a modelling variable) – the bald population standardization is simpler and tells the unvarnished tale perfectly adequately.

Occams Pangolin Pie
4 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

It’s equal to a large village or very small town, of mainly octogenarians treated appallingly under the Whitty protocol whereby they were chucked out of hospital. As for the January wave…

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

The average of estimates of deaths given by the public was 6-7% so in the order of 3-4 million.

Unbelievable.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Proof of how well propaganda works

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  chris c

Or how lazy people are to look at evidence for themselves.

Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I shall be contacting the 2 institutions I attended giving them my views in the matter, and making donations contingent on their not requiring students to be vaccinated.

Mind you, I already did that when one of them was the very first to whack their fees up to the maximum

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

CCP controlled government ‘plans shelved’ for anything to do with their beloved vax passports is code for ‘plans continue’

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

The problem is a LOT of young people are going for this crap anyway, from what I can gather. Speaking to randoms and staff in the local Spoons, they’ve all been jabbed and see no issues. Try to give them information and they just write you off as crazy. This is a nightmare come true. I am now of the belief that the only thing that will stop this train in its tracks is when the jabbed start dropping dead from ADE. I just don’t see anything else breaking down the groupthink/mass hypnosis. They’ve done a number on the people and they’ve done a great job. Control of the media is so key to this, bastards at the BBC and in the newspapers and scum like Jon Gaunt, James Whale, Steven Nolan etc – bloated bigoted pieces of shit who love to wind up their audience and play the divide the people game. The government has murdered thousands – with ventilators, with dodgy drugs, in the care homes through stavation and midazolam and morphine, by withholding drugs like ivermectin, and the deaths which have been mislabelled as Covid19 – these events are doing their job in persuading people there really… Read more »

A Y M
4 years ago

Yes our house all got Covid except our 15 year old, who may have been asymptomatic. We had a stock of Ivermectin and HCQ. I’ve had far worse flu bouts. It’s not pleasant but wtf is going on with people. The number of concerned calls we got when it got out we had the Rona was rediculous. It’s such a bore now.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Where did you manage to buy the ivermectin and hcq please? Is it freely available on the internet or do you have to go dark web? TIA

mouser
4 years ago

Ivermectin aka Stromectol can be purchased via this Canadian pharmacy https://pillsrx-24.com/catalog/view?slug=Stromectol

You can also purchase via Indiamart but although the medication is cheap the shipping is prohibitive & you have to pay by Western Union.

Hope it helps.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  mouser

Thanks!

lordsnooty
4 years ago

> when the jabbed start dropping dead from ADE

no ADE has been detected.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

Yet

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago

you lost me when you mentioned Spoons.

cynical seamus
cynical seamus
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Whether’spoons’ a UK pub/inn chain, known for cheap drinks and food

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

Sad. but I agree.
Perhaps the only hope is indeed that they start dropping dead in droves. Might just make the survivors think. lol.
But, the MSM would doubtless blame the refuseniks.

cynical seamus
cynical seamus
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Whether’spoons’, a UK pub/inn chain, known for cheap drinks and food

cynical seamus
cynical seamus
4 years ago
Reply to  cynical seamus

Sorry, misposted

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Probably this is just for another 5 weeks so the MPs can have their ‘hollibobs’ in peace and quiet from the plebs – when they get back, they’ll ask Zahawi what he’s cooked up. My guess is another variant, so it “is imperative” that students get jabbed.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“the only thing that will stop this train in its tracks is when the jabbed start dropping dead from ADE.”

I think this is wishful thinking. Yes, yes, I know, it’s the third ‘booster’ shot that will kill everybody…. after that it will be the 4th… or the 5th…

My guess is that most people will not die of these vaccines, but simply that they will be used as a way to keep ‘Vaxx Passports’ up-to-date. Miss a vaccine and your Pass becomes invalid.
No valid Pass = kicked out of your job.
As we see right now, the ‘unvaxxed’ are not allowed into pubs & restaurants in Ireland, and that jabs are to be mandatory for care home workers in the UK (or they will be fired from their jobs).

The fun starts when for one set of ‘vaccines’ there “is a problem” and there will only be enough for, say, 80% of the people. Remember, no jab, Passport expires, and that means exclusion from The New Society. Watch the scramble then! Rats in a box! People will claw each others’ eyes out to get a ‘vaccine’.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I’ve never thought the vaccines were about depopulation or that there were going to be a huge number of fatalities from them. The sad likelihood is as you say – used as a way to keep the passports up to date, control people, make money for big pharma, and as part of the whole medical fascist industrial complex. It’s a great additional business for governments to be in and for public-private partnerships, big contracts for your mates, lots of money and power for everyone.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Eugenicist Bill Gates is a lifelong believer in mass depopulation and this engineered opportunity is the chance of a lifetime. It will not be wasted.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

He’s an awful man but I don’t think that is what is happening

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Most people cannot accept the enormity of the plan – initially, the deaths will be blamed on the unvaxxed (the narrative for this has already been initiated). By the time people realise the truth, it’ll be too late.
All the ‘green’ plans that have been mooted cannot work with the size of the current population – they will afterwards, though.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Read Iain Davis on the ‘UK column’ site, his summary is good. It not that some might not die, but that is not the motive. Its greed, old fashioned greed. Organised by BlackRock and the bankers, bypassing national govts, using the ‘useful idiots’ in the greens etc to produce disruptive resource constrained capitalism.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

It’s rubbish. The vaxxes are useless against Covid, yes, and carry a non-negligible risk, but they aren’t going to kill people en masse. If they were going to they’d have started by now.
Do sceptics actually want non-sceptics to die like flies? If so, they are as vile as the lockdown fanatics they claim to oppose.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

At least one Nobel-prize winning scientist disagrees with you. ADE won’t start to rear its ugly head until the winter. The stories about graphene oxide are worrying, too.
As I wrote yesterday, most people (even lockdown sceptics) cannot believe that TPTB are so evil.
Oh, and I hope you aren’t suggesting that I want the vaxxed to die – quite the opposite, as I have many family members and friends who have succumbed to the propaganda!

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I don’t WANT people to die but what else could break the narrative?

They’re pushing the vax on pregnant women despite signals of miscarriage.

Now they’re going to mandate it for students despite what they are currently saying, and so far only *some* chldren, I reckon the others will follow.

Levels of death and harm are not yet high enough to break the narrative, maybe they need to be. Or we are royally fucked.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Small victories.

crimsonpirate
4 years ago

problem is, it wouldn’t be a good look if everyone is vaccinated and there is a Covid outbreak. If it happens once it will be dismissed as a freak occurrence. Having it happen in several locations will be hard to explain away.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

It would look a heck of a lot worse, if there was a large rump of unvaxxed people who were not getting ill and were stubbornly refusing to die. So coercion will continue and of course, once 90% plus are injected with the bioweapon, it won’t matter how bad it looks, the damage will be done. That’s a big win for the depopulators and then the hard case refuseniks will be picked up with little fuss, put into internment camps and like the vaxxed they will just disappear.

Resistance to the “vaccinators” remains absolutely vital.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

“… hard to explain away.”

Like the White Queen, the general populace can believe in six impossible things before breakfast. Don’t kid yourself.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

They’d just pass it off as a new variant requiring a new ‘vaccine’. They know, from hundreds of years’ experience that people will believe any lie they tell them until everyone is dead and there is no one left to deceive.

A Y M
4 years ago

Of course this is fantastic news. Of course I am trying to be happy about this. But of course this flip flopping Stalinist government can just as easily change their mind again…..
Thats the problem when you get black-pilled.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

If you’re out tbere right now get onto Bannon’s War Room.
Dr Robert Malone live, inventor of MrNA vaccines, holding forth.
Unmissable.

Julian
4 years ago

Better shelved than implemented, though time will tell whether they stick to it.

But the fact it was talked about so openly is a sign of how mad things have become.

rtaylor
4 years ago

Collect university fee’s first. Then make gene therapy compulsory after fresher’s week when the winter season sets, along with influenza. Then let them webcam in from socially distanced dorms (prison).

Good thing we don’t have a social credit score with centrally controlled digital money. They’d block minions from paying rent/bills/food bills unless you’ve been jabbed…

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
4 years ago

Why are the so-called judiciary not shaving Boris and his so called Ministers not being charged under the Nuremberg convention for all the heavy coercion they have heaped on the population.
Its my choice what medical procedure, nothing to do with Zaharwi

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Durrans

Correction— not having, replacing shaving

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Durrans

Ah; I thought you meant shaving, then tarring, then feathering. Now that is an idea I could get behind!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

rtaylor: “Good thing we don’t have a social credit score with centrally controlled digital money. They’d block minions from paying rent/bills/food bills unless you’ve been jabbed…”

Mastercard and Sitra working on linking ‘vaccine’ status to your bank card. No up-to-date jab and bank card stops working.You may laugh at that idea now, but not when you’ve missed the latest jab and then find you can’t buy a train ticket.

Also, no up-to-date jab and they’ll cut your Social Security payments, unemployment benefit, refuse medical treatment, and probably also invalidate your driving licence. I’m not advocating these ‘jabs’, I’m just trying to show what lies ahead if the programme is not stopped.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

Just another in a long list of lies. Will be back on again before term starts I’m sure.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

FFS it’s all about control – nothing whatsoever to do with a VIRUS.
Don’t worry though, big pharma is already working on gene therapies that will cure every auto immune disease – that the bastards caused in the first place.
If we don’t stop this it will be the end of humanity as we know it.
And, if you think some cabinet ministers or MP’s will stop it…..

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Since humanity as we know it is generally inclined to follow like sheep any order it is given that may not be a bad thing.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

What is the point of a vaccine passport when the CDC in America has put masks back in place because they do not believe the vaccines prevent anything?
As The Washington Post reported “The game-changer for the agency was data showing that vaccinated people infected with the highly infectious delta variant carry the same viral load as unvaccinated people who are infected.”

Busting the myth that vaccination prevents transmission – HART (hartgroup.org)

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

I feel so sorry for the kids who took the vax. As dr. Peter McCullough advises, people under 30 do not need it. Their risks are negligible.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

So, let’s leave a decision until the last minute and then there’ll be a big panic to get vaccinated. This might mean students who have only just had a jab will return, with compromised immune systems for 2 or 3 weeks, to possibly pick up infections (which usually happens anyway at start of a year). Virtually none of them need this jab but the salesmen are obsessed with selling us as many as possible and to hell with any consequences.

Mezzo18
Mezzo18
4 years ago

So they’ve recognised how bad it would look, and what the legal liability would be, if they forced reluctant young people to have a vaccine before university and one of them died.

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
4 years ago

Of course, they have never changed their minds before! Any student going forward with next year courses should be worried. Defer, if possible, and certainly don’t pay fees or rents, until you are certain.

Occams Pangolin Pie
4 years ago

There may be hope from the NUS. If so, great news?
Who’d have thought?

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

Shelved.
For now.