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Mark
4 years ago

Are we seeing US regime panic as signs of long predicted ADE appear?

What seems to be rolling out is the worst case scenario, where the vaccine, in the waning phase, is causing virus to replicate more efficiently than it would otherwise, which is what we call Antibody Dependent Enhancement

And Malone is not someone who can be silenced or dismissed as antivax. Nor is there anyone in the world who can pull rank on him as an expert in this specific area.

https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html

If the data are consistent with ADE we have to stop the vaccine campaign

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So this could be the end of “vaccine” passports then, Labour have a get-out clause, and no “vaccine” apartheid apartheid after all, if this is true. They will stop the “vaccine” campaign for this won’t they? I mean they are rational benign people after all aren’t they, rather than Big Pharma stooges? And doubtless this will be prominently and impartially covered by the BBC…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Sadly nothing on Ceefax yet. They have a story on “disruptive climate change” in the UK though. Not that the BBC are biased or anything. Perhaps if you e-mail them the story…

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’m guessing: “Stormzy most affected by storms”?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Those daft storm names…

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

In fairness, it’s still very early days as far as this particular story is concerned. Malone was speculating about a newspaper report of a government leak that appears to confirm that new data seems to support one of the most serious warnings about how this vaccine rollout could backfire spectacularly. The good news is that because there are people like Malone still around, and news outlets such as Bannon’s (and other independents who are not committed to defending the policy, as the entirety of big media and big tech are), thy won’t be able to cover it up forever, if it does turn out to be a sign of something big rather than a false lead. (And by the way, that’s why the existence of partisan political resistance to the narrative such as is provided by the Republicans in the US is so crucial. Bannon is a partisan Republican supporter, albeit a controversial one, and would not be as committed to getting the truth out on this if it were not an issue between his party and the ruling Democrats, and would almost certainly be willing to shut up on it if those he trusts in his party hierarchy were… Read more »

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Er, Dr Malone is talking to Steve Bannon. That makes him a huWhite supremacist Nazi conspiracy theorist. He has already been scrubbed from Wikipedia. Those are the rules now. If you think that facts matter, well, you can get cancelled along with him.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Cancelled? Weren’t there also stories about Facebook and Google profiting from the lockdowns? Coincidence?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Undoubtedly they will try that, and it will work in some quarters for a while. But Bannon is too well connected to be silenced, and Malone’s credentials too solid.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Can someone please answer this question.
Is ADE in a respiratory virus like SARS2 necessarily a precursor to a Merek’s disease type of situation? Mareks disease being herpes type of virus in a very different mammal.
Seems to me we have two possible situations developing
a) SARS2 with a leaky vaccine ( which may only be Pfizer, not Moderna ,Jansen or AZ) might develop rapidly in vaxed hosts and have enhanced transmission but because its a respiratory virus it still mutates in a less virulent manner. Neither vaxed nor unvaxed have particularly higher risk of serious illness; everyone gets a ‘summer cold’.
b) It follows the Marek path and more virulent strains develop in hosts that don’t die/get very ill because of the vax which allows enough time for it to transmit in this dangerous mode to others putting unvaxed at most risk of death/serious illness.
Do we have any idea which is the more likely?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

This is clearly highly technical stuff, and I don’t believe even the professionals could answer it definitively, because human knowledge in these areas is evidently quite limited, and research ongoing. Based on the theory, it seems to me there’s no obvious reason why what applies to Marek should not apply similarly, mutatis mutandis, to respiratory viruses, if we accept the prevailing theories on how they spread. But clearly it might well be possible to come up with hypotheses that would mean it might not. It’s worth noting that the 2019 article in which this was discussed, that I linked below, also suggests avian flu in chickens as an example of this issue potentially applying: “Marek’s is not the only nasty disease out there. The virus causing avian influenza can be even deadlier. “The most virulent strain of avian influenza now decimating poultry flocks worldwide can kill unvaccinated birds in just under three days,” Read said, because the vaccine against avian influenza is a leaky one. “In the United States and Europe, the birds that get avian influenza are culled, so no further evolution of the virus is possible,” Read said. Culling is a more expensive process than using a leaky… Read more »

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks for the reply Mark. I did read the article and as you say avian flu is identified as a ‘possible’ evolution hazard, but not yet confirmed.
This all puts the unvaxed in a difficult position. By utilising our brains and not getting injected we might be putting ourselves at far higher risk of serious illness. I think from reading the Pfizer contract it is likely that all governments will do anything to keep as much data on this under wraps for as long as possible, although leaks in the US may make that impossible.
This all is totally consistent with the extreme ramping up of the vax drive everywhere, they are running scared but ahave decided to lie through their teeth rather than admit the true situation.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

This all puts the unvaxed in a difficult position. By utilising our brains and not getting injected we might be putting ourselves at far higher risk of serious illness.”

Indeed, but what choice do we have but to resist now, really?

The alternative is to surrender to a future in which big pharma injections are necessary to survive.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Euros may have pushed country towards nationwide protection”

Too bad they didn’t have them last Summer, by which time Finland had eased restrictions well before us. A right mess our government has made of this.

Incidentally, is there any reliable news on Belarus, which as I understand kept spectator sport going throughout?

burke19
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And the score is:
United Kingdom 1907 : Belarus 360.
(Total deaths per million population)

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

Hmm. I seem to remember Belarus was in the news for anti government protests a bit ago. I tend to think the msm would’ve picked up on it if there were bodies piling up on the streets due to Covid, however hard to come by reliable information is there. Now if they take vaxport refugees…

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

interestingly however tiny your protest worldwide, if its narrative friendly the “B”BC will cover it. If it’s outside their window and massive but they dont like it, they won’t.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Government turned us into the most terrified country on Earth”.

Nah, they’re all being altruistic. And the “English” government has our best interests at heart. Maybe…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Trust God for safety and do what’s right” (Revd Phill Sacre)

I was talking to my friend from church the other day, who has gone to a service almost every Sunday since this started, be it in people’s homes, open spaces or small wayside shrines. Would that all Christians had made a stand against this instead of letting them “cancel” Christmas. I think of the Muslims who fast from water during Ramadan despite being ill in hospital, or those Christians who care for lepers and other outcasts, and really in comparison, the response of too many church leaders has been pretty pathetic in response to diabolical lockdowns that have denied comfort to the dying, and denied participation in fundamental aspects of the faith – among many other horrors

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Scots galleries to review collection’s links to slavery”.

I’m linked to 17th century slavery. My ancestor helped free English slaves in North Africa. Make sure you tell them about that in these schools now, won’t you?

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Barbary pirate slave trade? Nah, I bet it isn’t even mentioned in passing!

Schools should use Thomas Sowell’s works on race and equality, but he uses facts to dispute the narrative, so it will never happen.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“People in north of England less intelligent” (Do genes determine intelligence).
It’s the science, you know.

I should also point out that the Steven Pinker mentioned in the article, as I recall, also justified infanticide up to 5 years. Never mind, you can all contribute to genomic research by getting “tested” for Covid. Talk about murky waters…

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

“People in north of England less intelligent” (Do genes determine intelligence).
It’s the science, you know.”

As someone with southern genes but culturally northern (parents moved north when I was a toddler) I don’t particularly have a dog in this fight, but it’s worth observing that this coronapanic has pretty much laid to rest the idea that measurable intelligence, narrowly defined, is any guarantee of getting anything right.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That’s the key point, and I totally agree (!). ‘Intelligence’ is a slippery word and is essentially defined by the test of ‘intelligence’ being used – a circular process.

The theoretical concept of a general factor ‘g’ was/is fair enough – but defining its indicators beyond dispute has never been settled.

… and then, of course, we get into our old friend scientific fraud in the case of Cyril Burt’s pioneering work. Fraud is even easier in this sphere than in the current situation of concerns regarding medicine.

It’s hardly a revolutionary idea that behaviour is a complex outcome, influenced by a multitude of inherent and environmental variables. The field is replete with simplified hobby-horse riding.

… and all that is before you get to the labeling of attributes differentially in order to load the question asked. Clearly, the observable use of an ‘environmental’ variable – induction of social Fear – in this current shit-show has raised all sorts of questions about how ‘intelligence’ manifests itself in behaviour.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

That’s the key point, and I totally agree (!).”

Steady on, Rick!

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I think any meaningful measure of “intelligence” needs to include something that considers how consistently that person is able to apply whatever intellectual capacity they have, independently of the circumstances, especially when under emotional pressure through fear, intimidation, infatuation etc.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

We could cal that “wisdom”. Or “common sense”. Or “strength of character”. Or “moral fibre”.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, it has to be a combination of those things plus some intellectual ability – thought from what I’ve seen, no enormous IQ is required to see the covid scam for what it is.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Give me Gillian Duffy over Gordon Brown any day.

paul smith
4 years ago

Thank-you for mentioning Tunisia – you DO read the comments!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Meanwhile, in Tanzania (according to Ceefax) a vaccination drive is underway. If the death of John Magufuli was a fix, it’s paid off… and 21 Covid deaths there according to worldometer. Even if it’s really a hundred times more than that, it’s still tiny in a country of over sixty million…

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

I have not yet followed up many of the interesting links above. Thanks to Will Jones, compiler of today’s update, for being bold in his selection.

One of the first things I do in the morning is look at the newspaper headlines. As well as the usual Covid propaganda tosh there were a large number of woke inspired items. Quite amusing to see the Grandma court case report in The Times and compare it with the Gran Larceny jewellery headline in the Daily Mirror

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Maybe she can change her legal age to twenty one…
(Apparently a man (in Holland) actually did try to change his legal age: the law is an ass!)

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago

Nate “fake poll” Silver. Maybe Ferguson has upset him, taking over his crown as king of getting predictions wrong.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

You mean there was someone who was wronger than Pantsdown??!!

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yep: it’s turtles all the way down!

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Morning, zealots. It seems like the CDC’s little aside about viral loads in those who have been experimented on being as high or higher than free range humans is finally getting some traction.

The most plausible counter-narrative, as alluded to by Dr Malone, is that this is only referring to viral loads in the upper respiratory tract, not down in the lungs and in the blood where it’s doing damage.

So the experimental treatments may still be providing protection against serious illness and death.

However, the salient point is that they are not reducing infection or transmissibility, so do not, and can not, provide herd immunity, or protect those who have not been experimented on.

This completely blows the doors off of “vaccine passports”, but we’re strictly post factual now. It seems clear that the G7 this year that our rulers’ chief seneschals were given their orders, and agreed to press ahead with social credit score systems.

France is going balls deep, we’re just putting the tip in, at first, but come the Autumn sniffles season, the pressure is only going to build. We’ll have “Papers, please” in supermarkets to Save Our Christmas.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

if its true, then vaccination doesn’t help us directly get to herd immunity, but it does help by suppressing symptoms and creating an army of vaccinated asymptomatic superspreaders. and we can’t be far off anyway.

should be done and dusted soon and then it will just be waiting for any medium-long term vaccine side effects

we may look back and say vaccines increased spread and reduced symptoms. like a massive chickenpox party

of course there is no reason to vaccinate everyone or 50% or 10% or whatever. vaccines may just help the vulnerable and otherwise just speed up the gaining of natural immunity

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

An unusually high number of the very vulnerable died at the same time as the vaccine rollout started, a rollout that focused initially on the very vulnerable, on whom it hadn’t been tested.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

yes, clearly a vaccine with such side effects would take a lot of the vulnerable

we could see in the initial testing that side effects were worse than covid for the healthy volunteers

I expect the fear of that is why many countries banned vaccines above certain ages

Emmerich
4 years ago

Dunno if anybody’s heard about this, but the actor Bob Odenkirk collapsed on the Better Call Saul set on Tuesday – of a heart related incident. When I heard that this seemingly healthy 58 year old man, with apparently no previous history of heart problems, collapsed on set from a ‘heart-related event’ my first thought was ‘I wonder if he got that vaccine? The one that’s been causing all the heart problems in previously healthy people’ And, sure enough…

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Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

Great find. Nice one. I thought exactly the same thing but I have been avoiding Twitter for months, ( for my mental health! ) so didn’t look there.

Emmerich
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

I know what you mean. Odenkirk’s feed is full of far-left dogcrap. So I simply used the advanced search tool to look for ‘vaccine’ once it became too unbearable to just scroll through the thing

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

The kind of case the excellent InProportion2 lampoons as #VeryRare:

https://twitter.com/InProportion2

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I work for Microsoft and have been advised we will not be preventing unvaxxed from going into offices. Will be interesting to see if they change now this has come out

Emmerich
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

You work for Microsoft? You’re working for the enemy!

Incredible that Bill Gates, the architect of all this, isn’t having his employees vaxxed.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

That ‘vaccine’ pusher Dr Hilary has just been on GMB once again and promoting his product. No balance to the discussion, no mention of the risks, or adverse reactions… Just vaccine ‘good’, natural immune system ‘bad’.

What a piece of work he and his ilk are.

TreeHugger
4 years ago

He’s been a condescending arse for years. I’d far rather listen to Patrick Holford, who never gets TV airtime these days as his opinions don’t fit.

Milos
4 years ago

Antibodies made by human immune system and other immunological cells don’t last forever (several weeks to months). I guess it would be too taxing for human body to maintain large amount of immunity cells for every possible pathogen all the time. Instead immune system remembers the pathogen and has a ready response the next time the pathogen comes to destroy it fast. This is not news, it is basic biology. I kind of new this but had to go to Britaninica just to be sure (and I checked edited history of the website to make sure no large changes were made during coronatimes, and they weren’t. In 2020 just an image of a T-cell was added). So judging everything by percentage of population that has antibodies is just elementary school kind of wrong. Many more people are immune to coronavirus19 than just those who test positive for antibodies to coronavirus19. For most the disease is mild and they don’t need to produce a lot of antibodies, and so they might test negative in seroprevelence/antibody studies (especially after several months) but they are immune. Plus, some people might have cross immunity from exposure to 4 common cold corona viruses, but that… Read more »

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

I just had a horrible thought. What happens if spike proteins get into the bone marrow?

Mark
4 years ago

https://twitter.com/InProportion2/status/1420624629245255684

A nice encapsulation of the argument against mass use of “leaky” vaccines. Normally if a new variant makes people more ill it will have an evolutionary disadvantage because very ill people don’t meet as many people for it to spread to.

That’s why viruses tend to evolve to be more infectious but less dangerous – probably the “delta” variant is an example.

But in a population full of people vaccinated with a “leaky” vaccine like the current covid ones, more dangerous variants are free to outcompete their less dangerous relatives.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715

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Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Those arguments don’t stack up against the evidence we have. Once again it all boils down to the ‘asymptomatic spread’ argument. The unseen killer which is being used to scare people.

And that applies to both vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

The question is why are they wanting to slow down the spread now?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Those arguments don’t stack up against the evidence we have.

Do tell.

Once again it all boils down to the ‘asymptomatic spread’ argument.

That appears to be a red herring here.

The argument here is not for slowing down the spread per se, but for reducing the spread from people who are more likely to be carrying around more dangerous variants – the vaccinated (because if the unvaccinated had it they would be in bed).

And of course it’s not really a policy proposal, more a matter of alerting people to issues that the elites would prefer they don’t think about, because they go against the “vaccinate everyone” narrative that is being pushed.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The whole variant issue is a massive red herring too. Variants do not differ that much from the original virus – this from the still sane and honest scientists that know about variants from past experience. It’s not as if they develop some sort of ‘killer’ mechanism and then go on the rampage. Creating a ‘variant’ narrative (with seemingly endless possible iterations) plays well in the media that can cast these as the next villains to be fought and of course governments and unscrupulous scientists can use that argument too. We need some sort of ‘Virus, Variant and Vaccine’ convention where all scientists can actually discuss the truth of these things together and be open and transparent. I’m so sick of being lied to and seeing freedom slipping away because too many people believe the bs and follow the red herrings.

Mark
4 years ago

I think the “variant” issue in the media certainly often is a red herring, and an intentionally scaremongering one at that. However, it seems to me that evolution of pathogens including viruses has always been a legitimate issue. After all, that’s why we get colds and flu’s year after year.

The trick is to spot when it’s being abused for propaganda purposes and when it’s legitimate discussion.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I don’t disagree that there are variants, of course there are but it’s their ongoing threat to health that I do disagree with. If you’ve had the virus, then you have developed natural immunity regardless of what you are told. It’s not as if completely normal human functions, such as the immune system, are rendered useless in the face of this virus. So I would say that the variant issue is being abused for propaganda purposes pretty much all the time now since we know that the main virus threat has receded. It’s also a useful ‘mechanism’ for the vaccine mfrs to argue for booster shots. Much of this is about money as it is about control and abuse of power.

Winston Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

What evidence?

Mark
4 years ago

Biden will announce vaccination requirement across federal government on Thursday [This is the US regime announcement alluded to by Steve Banon in the interview with Dr Malone linked earlier. https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html%5D “President Joe Biden will announce on Thursday a requirement that all federal employees and contractors be vaccinated against Covid-19, or be required to submit to regular testing and mitigation requirements, according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter. The announcement will come in remarks where Biden is also expected to lay out a series of new steps, including incentives, in an attempt to spur new vaccinations as the Delta variant spreads rapidly throughout the country. It will also follow the decision by the Department of Veterans Affairs to require its frontline health care workers to be vaccinated over the course of the next two months. …. Asked if he thinks the new revised guidance on masks from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will lead to confusion for Americans, Biden cast blame on unvaccinated Americans, saying that if they had been vaccinated “we’d be in a very different world.” “We have a pandemic because the unvaccinated and they’re sowing enormous confusion. And the more we learn about this virus and… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

America falls to a Health Junta

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

No, it doesn’t ‘fall’, because Fed mandates only go so far with respect to State Laws. CDC can advise, but can’t insist.
What Biden is doing is deliberately creating huge friction between States and between Fed employees and others within States.
The US is already a tinder box over many issues, he is stoking the fires.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Time to revisit that secession issue…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

isn’t that what he accused Trump of?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Lots of people were convinced that covid was a front to get rid of Trump and that once he was gone it would disappear.
The part about using covid to get at Trump was true, but I never thought they would abandon it afterwards. It’s just too powerful a tool for exerting the kind of control that most politicians love.
There are some who post here who are convinced that the US has moved on from covid. I think this pretty much blows that theory out of the water. There are some US states that have moved on, and one (South Dakota) that never went mad to start with (Kristi Noem has more balls than most – “South Dakota’s cases remain low. If you’re worried about the virus, you’re free to get vaccinated, wear a mask, or stay at home. But we won’t be mandating anything. And the CDC’s inconsistency doesn’t help the American people.“).
Arguably shows the value in a federal system of government, where the various states have different political cultures that to some extent allow people to choose what kind of culture they want around them.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“There are some who post here who are convinced that the US has moved on from covid. I think this pretty much blows that theory out of the water. There are some US states that have moved on“ Not sure I’ve seen anyone actually claim that (that “the US has moved on”), but if so they are clearly wrong, as you say – the Democrats, and therefore the US regime, are full on panickers still. As you point out, some states have moved on, thanks to the federal system and to Republican governors and/or legislatures. As much as the federal system, it shows the benefit of genuine political diversity, which is what we lack. After all, our own federalised bits – Scotland, Wales, NI, have contributed zero of benefit on the coronapanic because we have no real diversity in our political party hierarchies and therefore no real opposition. As I’ve observed before, we’d probably have been better off in this regard if the nominal party of the left under Jeremy “zero covid loon” Corbyn had won the last election. There’d have been much more chance of opposition from the antilockdown side from “Conservatives” in opposition than there has been from… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s primarily Tim Bidie I am thinking of and I may be over-simplifying his position. I enjoy his posts, even though I disagree with some of what he says.

At least with devolved government you have the chance of political diversity, even if it doesn’t happen. The US states have a massive advantage in that they are culturally quite diverse from one another, and offer different things economically and geographically, and there are a lot more of them, and the devolved system was built in from the start. The only place I can think of that remotely compares is Switzerland.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

i think it’s also to do with recent political history there. After Reagan they had a similar situation to what we have here for many years – Democrats facing off against “Republican in Name Only” placemen who kowtowed to the globalist, collectivist and identitarian left every bit as much as our “Conservatives” do.

That only really changed with the Trump insurgency in 2016. Trump, who is imperfect in many ways but does have a sharp eye for the populist issues – a bit like Farage here – ran as a genuine rebel against the RINO hierarchs, and pulled in support from the “deplorables” abandoned and despised by the Democrats – much as Labour here long ago abandoned the indigenous working class for prettier, more politically correct and less inconveniently conservative trendies.

That’s what I mean by genuine political diversity. Real populism, in the sense of actually responding to the concerns of the masses about corrupt elite abandonment of their interests.

We don’t have it here because our system is much better at smearing and suppressing such inconvenient crudeness (although Brexit was a rare, if narrow, escape).

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Ah yes, another made up country.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Don’t we have a federal system (apart from the English government bit)?

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Delta exists and is spread massively because of the vaccinations.
He knows that, of course.
But their deliberate lies are still swallowed up by the now poisoned Cult members, that is the problem.

JamesDrebin
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Biden really is an antichrist, isn’t he. Just wow.

JayBee
4 years ago

The Mirror article by/on the courageous and intelligent student Sophie is the most despicable example of framing and propaganda I have encountered in quite a while.
Straight out of the Joseph Goebbels/Julius Streicher School of Journalism aka Propaganda.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I’ve read the article but propaganda about what? Against vaccination? It seems clear and logical to me and makes a good argument in a mainstream paper. Surely that’s a good thing or am I missing something?

JayBee
4 years ago

Have you not noticed how they present her?
Have you not noticed how they are interrupting the article with statements how safe and great the vaccines are?
Then you are still blue-pilled, I am afraid.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Nope, not blue-pilled at all, my friend. Red pill all the way, in my case. I’m completely aware of how this is presented yet it’s highly unlikely that they wouldn’t include box-outs about vaccine safety in this day and age – remember this is a mainstream red top. And yes, they showcase her as if she’s some of model or celebrity, bit of leg etc, again a red top lowest common denominator ploy to draw readers in. BUT at least it provided some coverage arguing quite coherently against vaccine certification and other young people will read this and some may even see the rightness of her argument. If that’s the case, it’s a good thing, no?

Mark
4 years ago

Leftist covid hypocrisy at the borders – US version: Tucker: This is one of the greatest scandals of our age Note that this “floodgates” policy of actively importing illegal immigrants en mass runs in parallel with tight controls on legal entry, justified by a supposed threat of covid. Why are they doing it? It’s a toxic mix of ideological fanaticism and cynical self-interest. On the one hand they have an ideology of hatred for the conservative and working class populations and the established structures and cultures of their own country, on the other, an intention to import voters to protect them against the likely backlash against their effective theft of the 2020 election and their imposition of radical cultural revolutionary policies and attitudes. WATCH: Farage Shares Footage of Migrant ‘Invasion’ on Beaches of Britain So why is much the same happening here, under a supposedly “Conservative” government? There is a degree of radical leftist ideology amongst the “Conservative” Party hierarchy, but clearly not to the degree it dominates the parties of the official left. And clearly they aren’t importing future voters as the US Democrats are – that was Blair’s motivation, not Johnson’s. So why is a supposedly “Conservative” government… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Raises rents and lowers wages, what’s not to like for the establishment?

Not discriminating against low productivity immigrants is a effective subsidy to the establishment.

Julian
4 years ago

Yes. Cheap labour for big business. Any negative effects of mass immigration don’t really affect rich powerful people.

And yes, moral cowardice, a degree of leftist ideology and possibly personal corruption.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, you and TLAWL are correct, of course, I forgot to include the most common longstanding motivation on the political right for pushing mass immigration – corporate and (if you include the personal corruption point) greed.

A genuine conservative should have no difficulty in standing up and openly saying “mass immigration is bad”, without qualifiers about legal or illegal, and defending that position. It’s a fundamental conservative truth.

The fact that there is almost no figure in mainstream politics who would dare to make such a declaration today, or who could articulate the reasons for it if he dd, says a lot about why we are where we are.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Van Tam, the main man says to expect a “bumpy autumn and winter”.
The only bumping I want to hear is his and the rest of SAGE’S heads being “bumped” against several brick walls.