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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Mobilisation of the state against a non-conformist minority”.

Would this be acceptable against any other minority? No positive discrimination, just discrimination. And against people who are just trying to protect themselves. Disgusting. Illegal. Evil. So much for human rights.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“People shielding far more likely to catch the virus”.

Yes. I know someone who considered herself particularly vulnerable to this virus and went to considerable lengths to protect herself. Apparently she still contracted “long Covid” in the end. Maybe I know why now…

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The AIER piece above may have the answer:

‘A March 2021 report by Adam Gaffney for StatNewscalled attention to […] problems with Body Politic’s research design. “[A]t least some people who identify themselves as having long Covid appear never to have been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus,” Gaffney noted. They were nonetheless touted by the media as case studies in the alleged syndrome.”‘

Yes, you can wallow in Long Covid without having had Covid in the first place.

richteabiscuit
richteabiscuit
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Anything is possible these days, Annie. Thinking clearly and coherently is soooooooo yesterday…

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

This was obvious and predictable to anyone with a realistic understanding of human behaviour. All of the usual suspects at my work took long term sickness with “long covid” in 2020. Then when the testdemic was ramped up in 2021 many got positive test results, which were either false-positives or showed their long-covid had been bullshit.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’d be careful with this one : it smells strongly of poor research, leading to misattribution, even if that basic finding is correct.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

” ‘Unvaccinated’ diners only”.

I don’t particularly want to be around “vaccinated” people (I heard pine needle tea provides some protection from them), but I’ve no idea how I would prove I was “unvaccinated”. Still, I suspect a large majority at our anti-lockdown prayer group (never seen a mask there) are “unvaccinated”. Bring on that alternative culture…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Freedom for ‘double-jabbed’ “.
Servitude for the rest of us. Could we please have a revolution? ‘Let my people go’.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“A quarter of Brits haven’t been hugged since ‘pandemic’ began”.

Stay safe or be hugged? I know which I’d choose. In any case hugging is healthy. The ghastly, inhuman misery these crooks have caused.

(Ironically, I’ve had more physical human contact than I have done for years! 🙂 )

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago

Our chief executive yesterday endorsing policy on refusing treatment to maskless patients. Is this what we have come to? Is Johnson going to stand at his lectern and announce this to the nation? I am sickened, I can hardly believe it could have gone this far. Our wonderful NHS, it stinks.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Who is “our chief executive”?

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Hospital in East of England.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Thanks. Blimey, what a scumbag.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Essentially an illustration of the ‘floating turd’ syndrome : whereby a large proportion of those now in positions of power are a case of shit rising to the top. Beyond easy rational explanation – but it does seem to be a dominant feature of the current scene.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Hopefully not the West Suffolk – that one death in the last 3 months has them really spooked!

paul smith
4 years ago

You missed an item.
Potentially a rather portentous item, possibly the first of many such seismic events.
The government of Tunisia has fallen.

Julian
4 years ago

Not that it would make much odds, but it would be nice to see the DS editorial team come and say that vaccine passports are immoral, wrong on principle, that they (assuming they are all vaxxed) will stand shoulder to shoulder with the unvaxxed and refuse to participate in any scheme or arrangements that give them “privileges”, and that such schemes are lockdowns in all but name.

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago

The article from the lad Prichard in the Telegraph is a shocker. The AZ vaccine is far from excellent and this fool is fully taken in by the variant nonsense, fully debunked by Yeads months ago. No wonder so many intelligent people have been conned, if they take note of articles such as this.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Yes – AEP has been wrong on just about everything covid-related (and much else).

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

AEP should write for the Grauniad as he seems wrong about everything all the time.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago

I’m currently in Stanstead airport on the way to Portugal. 10mins check-in, 10mins through security. It’s been the smoothest airport experience I can ever remember so far.

99% are masked in the airport, I am not and no one has said anything. I was told at check-in I need it on the plane but not if I’m eating or drinking (almost inviting me to read between the lines).

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Have a good trip and enjoy the sunshine and change of scene.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Enjoy and bring a big bag of crisps to eat on the flight.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago

I had one permanently on the table and no mask…no one said anything.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Good for you! Get some beef jerky, you can chew on that for hours! Have a good one.

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Joining in with the “enjoy your holiday” wishes 🙂

Hope things go okay with your missus and her dad.

Take no shite from so called officialdom! (I expect you wouldn’t anyway)

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

25 people on the flight, masks on the plane but I didn’t have it on and they didn’t care.

So far so good…

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

But I think you said you had to get a test before leaving, and will have to take more during and/or after the holiday. That is a step too far for me. I haven’t tested or masked, and don’t want to, ever. The flight check in, etc may have gone smoothly, but you took the test, why wouldn’t it? You complied.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

PS. Having said that, I have appreciated and agreed with most of your posts here. My comment above is intended more to point out that travel is *not* really “smooth” if have to test to do it.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

It seems to me that people have a choice. Either live freely within the human spirit and nature, or be governed and enveloped by digital technology and AI. I choose the former. The bio-security state is the latter.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

Just in case there was any doubt left, they’re coming for your kids folks.

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1420275888185348099?s=20

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Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

In fairness I was jabbed under a program such as this 30 years ago.

Haverhill is just done the road, the money’s not good enough to sell my soul for however.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Anybody noticed how the sheep swerve even wider now and their looks of terror more pronounced when a “normal” approaches em.
In Wilco’s, this morning, I thought that one bloke was going to run out of the store to avoid me!
ABSOLUTELY GREAT, AIN’T IT.

AngloWelshDragon
4 years ago

Being referred to as a “vaxtard” on these threads is why a lot of lockdown sceptics are turning away from the comments section. I respect your decision not to have the vaccine and personally refuse to patronise any business that discriminates. Would be nice if anti vaxxers showed similar solidarity to those of us who took a different decision based on much anguished consideration.

I’m sceptical of lockdowns and NPIs which was why Toby started this site. I remember in the beginning when we (almost) all thought vaccines were the way out..!

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

your post is the first time I’ve come across the term ‘vaxtards’ – i doubt it will catch on

Julian
4 years ago

I’ve seen it used, maybe on the Reddit rather than here. It’s not a term I would use personally. It probably refers more to people who took the vaccine because they thought it would give them freedom, rather than those who did it for personal medical reasons.
My view is that as long as someone is against passports and the like, they are on our side and whether they’ve been vaxxed is their business.

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago

Making the MSM error of people here being “anti-vaxxers”, (and if some ARE against ALL vaccines, fair play to them; their bodies etc).

I’ve had all necessary vaccinations throughout my life; I’m not being coerced to take this experimental, non-vaccine though.

Also never seen the “vaxtard” term here??

JYC
JYC
4 years ago

I remember in the beginning when we (almost) all thought vaccines were the way out..!

That might have been when we expected a vaccine that had completed its medical trials and wouldn’t be forced on us as a means to allow us the freedoms that had been stolen.

iane
iane
4 years ago

Actually, most people here thought that they would never create a successful vaccine to the sars-thingy. How right we were!