The Case for Vaccine Passports Is Strong, Says Michael Gove
Michael Gove says there is a “strong case” for the introduction of vaccine passports “in appropriate locations”, such as at Premier League football matches, arguing that “everything… we can do in order to reduce [the risk of Covid transmission], we should”. He hopes that “some form of certification” will be introduced across all four nations in the U.K. “This,” he believes, “is the right way to go.”
In an interview with the BBC, Gove said that vaccine passports would “make sure we can have greater confidence that big events are not likely to be super-spreader events”. He cited the “spike” in Covid cases following the Euro 2020 games – which experts believe helped squash the latest peak – and said certification would help to “make sure that major activities… are safe” because those who are vaccinated are “less likely to be carriers of the virus”.
This is exactly the sort of “nonsense” that Hugh Osmond, Founder of Punch Taverns, criticised on Sunday when he highlighted that, under Government plans, someone who is fully vaccinated but has Covid will be allowed into a “large venue” but someone who is unvaccinated yet doesn’t have Covid will be barred.
By saying that certification checks will make venue owners more confident that their events are not likely to be “super-spreader events”, Gove also appears to have forgotten the results from 10 recent Government trial events. These identified just 28 positive Covid test results among 58,000 participants *without* the use of vaccine passports.
Despite all this, Gove insists that “the case for certification, overall, is a strong one”.
You can watch the BBC interview here.
Stop Press: Gove says that those who refuse the vaccine are “selfish”, according to Politics For All.
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This man.. asshole personified.
Am I alone in wanting to punch this bastard in the face?
No!
No – there is a long queue though before you get to the front, by which time there wouldn’t be much left to punch.
OK, I’ll just flush the remains down the toilet then!
It’s a politician. It’ll just swirl around the bowl and then pop back up again.
I suspect he knows what that is like from his school days.
Bring back the stocks!
What a bastard he is.
No. I’d never get tired of punching his face.
No, this is one line I will happily wait in.
Faces are pretty bony. Better punch him in the stomach, that’s going to hurt more.
He’s got quite a jowly, fatty puffy face – like a deformed baby. It would probably be quite soft, if you punch him in the cheeks. Kick him in the balls when you’re there would you, if you can find them.
I think Sarah Vine has them – in a glass jar on her mantelpiece.
His balls are right there in his face anyway!
There’s nothing to kick where his balls should be.
Hold him upside down flush his head down the loo. Probably had this done to him countless times when he was at school anyway.
He looks like he’s still in school. Acts like it too.
You can be the strongest advocate for vaccines and passes and still want to punch this prick in his man child face.
No.
No!
No, I’ll hold your coat!
No. I wouldn’t even spit on him if he was on fire.
No
You are not alone.
The face of Michael Gove should be perpetually farted in by an elephant.
Oi, get in the queue!
Nope, I know many who share this sentiment along with the unlikely alliance of the entire teaching fraternity.
No, not by any measure.
… except not as useful.
Fuck off you po-faced idiot. As someone who suffers from inoperable and incurable cancer i wish that a minute percentage of the money that has been wasted in the past 17 months had been put into cancer screening and treatment. Fuck the lot of you. How about “everything… we can do in order to reduce [the risk of not screening people for cancer], we should”. My cancer is under control, but I know that it is only time before it mutates again. I am not having a clotshot as there has been no work carried out into examining the reaction of the agents in the shot against my medication. Yes, I am selfish; but the last time I looked it was my body, so I decide what goes into it. Hypocritical, medically ignorant, statistical ignoramuses the lot of you. In fact one of the drugs that I was on since my diagnosis in October 2017 was actually noted last Spring as actually being able to prevent deaths in men who contracted Covid in Italy. Come down to Cornwall and tell me to my face that I am selfish – no, probably not a good idea for you as, even though… Read more »
You are not selfish. It is the government who are selfish as they have been weak and thought of nothing but being re-elected. So sorry for what you are going through. Hold fast. I don’t care what they call me or prevent me from doing. The more they push, the more they deny the contribution of natural immunity, the greater my resistance and lack of trust.
Thanks. Just staying positive helps enormously, even if it is trying in these Godforsaken times.
Selfishness is a virtue, the government is not selfish,t i is merely the collector of sacrifices.
Altruism is the morality of sacrifice and death and Gove’s attack on selfishness is consistent with his totalitarianism.
Where there are sacrifices, it stands to reason there is a collector of sacrifices. Whosoever speaks of sacrifices speaks of slaves and masters and intends to be the master.
You are not selfish.
And I would gladly hold him down whilst you did it.
My wife has cancer. The waiting – for appointments, for test results, for surgery – is excruciating. The cruelty that is inflicted on people in order to boost the egos of sanctimonious prigs like Gove is utterly immoral.
Couldn’t his wife have done something useful and poison him before he was rumbled for cottaging?
I’m no believer in lizard people ruling the world, but if they did, they would reject Gove on the basis that he was too obviously reptilian and would give the game away.
God help him if our paths ever cross….
Gove is banning himself from so many different venues, vaccine passport or not.
You mean like cut his balls off and stuff them in his prig mouth? I whole heartedly agree with that. I’m wondering could I tempt him into an affair and I could do it.
If she won’t do it, there must be others who will.
From the looks of him, he’s already storing his balls in his cheeks. Like a chipmunk.
When I look at Gove I’m reminded of Collignan’s denigration of Lucien, in the film Amélie: ‘someone peed in his mother’.
Yes, I’m selfish for refusing this vaccine – for now at least. I am happy to admit this.
I’m doubly selfish as this morning I declined an offer to have a shingles vaccine – never heard of that one!
But it is without doubt that everyone who has had a SARS-2 vaccine is also selfish. Or did they just have it for altruistic reasons? Of course not!
I’ve had shingles and it’s a motherfucker. Still it’s your choice and that’s the whole point.
My 98 year old Dad had it last year and yes it was a mofo. But I haven’t heard of vaccine for this, so I am following by normal, long-term policy, which is first of all to find out what, if any, serious side-effects may occur.
As you say, I make my own informed choice. Of course that makes me selfish!
Just take acyclovir
Is he in fact saying that basic human rights are now something for the selfish only, and which must be sacrificed for the greater good?
Perhaps this man could clarify what exactly his connections are to the CCP?
Agreed! I have had shingles (which we get when the varicella virus from childhood chickenpox lurks, dormant, at the tip of certain nerves waiting for reactivation many years down the track). It caused terrible flu-like symptoms in me but the post-infection neuralgia (nerve pain) was the worst pain I have ever endured, feeling like being repeatedly stabbed with a hot knife and then twisting it. Shingles knocks Covid into a cocked hat for an absolutely awful disease.
I now have naturally-acquired immunity to shingles, thanks goodness.
The shingles vaccine, which is a traditional, well-vetted vaccine based on a dead or attenuated virus, should be considered but, as Carrie says, it should be up to you and your own personal risk-benefit analysis and research..
What kind of pressure is going to be put on us getting the flu and pneumonia vaccines this autumn? I will never trust them again with any medication!
I have only had the flu vaccine twice in my life, after been advised to by the oncology nurse at the hospital. I had both last year. I have no intention of taking either this year as I too have no faith in their integrity.
The NHS and most western medical systems are sales reps for the pharmaceutical companies.
Would it by any chance be possible for something to be done about the excessive influence of Big Pharma and others? Certainly anyone who wants my vote in future had better have a convincing plan
And have these crooks really managed to persuade the BBC not to give air time to anyone critical of the “vaccines”? The health pages on “Ceefax” would suggest so.
Cancer Research UK is owned by pharmaceutical companies. Needless to say, their motives are not entirely charitable… (I suspect you won’t find the word “orthomolecular” on their website).
IMO nearly all “heath charities” are just fronts for Big Pharma.
A friend had cancer and was prescribed Thalidomide.
I have heard of the shingles jab. MOH has just been offered it, and I think it’s probably a good idea, as long as it’s not mixed with the CV19 jab.
The shingles vaccine has been around quite a few years. I’d look into it further and maybe reconsider.
As I understand it, the shingles vaccine does not stop you getting shingles (heard of that one before??!!) but reduces the pain from it
There is a chicken pox vaccine which in some countries is part of the childhood vaccination programme
It works the same ie it doesn’t stop you getting it but reduces the symptoms
Given that Chicken pox is an extremely unpleasant disease that kills – I think 1 in 10000 but could be wrong, is age agnostic and is spread pre-symptomatically there is therefore a even stronger case that those who have not had the chicken pox vaccine are selfish
And that people who take their kids to ‘chicken pox parties’ are guilty of child abuse
I wonder if Gove has had his kids vaccinated? Or his he a screaming hypocrite…..?
Rhetorical of course!
I had chickenpox when I was 45. I can see why it can kill, it was just 3 weeks of awfulness and spots literally everywhere and I mean everywhere (plus some weeks of long-chickenpox!). Early March 2020, at age 64, I had a dose of Sars-Cov-2 that was mildly unpleasant for 3 days.
I know which I’d choose!
I think I will get Shingles vax. I’ve known a few who have had Singles and it’s unpleasant and painful.
I’m not selfish. I’m not asking anyone to do anything for me. I don’t WANT anyone to do anything for me.
Note to anyone considering being selfless:
Do not take the vaccine on my account. I’m absolutely fine.
Shingles is a one off vaccine given when you are 70. It is a fairly well established vaccine although some have apparently developed mild shingles after it. Had mine a couple of years ago, before covid was on the horizon.
The shingles vaccine is worth having.
I only had a mild bout of shingles but it’s quite nasty, but nobody should be forced to have any vaccine, if they don’t want to.
I got shingles. A few glasses of good quality red wine helped numb the pain admirably.
As for the flu vaccine, I long ago decided to forgo it. In fact, I am never going to have another vaccine again EVER. Who knows what might be added to it?
Yes that’s something I wonder, they might stick you with the covid “vaccine” when you were expecting something else.
The Shingles vaccine is relatively new. Shingles can be a real problem. I had a relatively mild case and was still wishing I had taken the vaccine.
Merck’s zostavax (shingles) is about 50pct effective and gives protection for about 3 years. It’s pretty safe, but not brilliant efficacy.
Dont think GSK’s Shingrix is available yet in the UK, but it’s over 90pct effective and not sure how long duration is yet (around 8 years and counting), also relatively safe. In the US it is approved for 50+ age and was approved in 2017. I would take it.
Check the adverse event rate for the shingles vaccine and make an informed decision on whether or not to have it. Something we’re denied in respect of SARS-CoV-2.
Shingles is a bitch – chronic pain for months if not years if it gets hold.
If you get anything like symptoms, don’t let a doctor fob you off with “heat rash” or “allergy”. Refuse to move from the surgery until you’ve got a script for Famvir, 250mg t.i.d. 7 days. I wish we’d done that with my wife. She had pain for a year following shingles.
My sister recognised early signs of shingles, went to the A&E and I think it was Famvir she was given. Cleared it up in a matter of days.
How are you selfish? The ‘vaccine’ is not a vaccine and does not prevent the spread of a virus that has a greater than 99.9% survival rate in all but those over eighty five with an average 2.4 pre-existing co-morbidities, or conditions that were going to kill them anyway.
The case for Gove’s imprisonment is an extremely strong one.
Death penalty needs a return actually.
Yes that too, after a month or two of solitary confinement in Belmarsh. I was an abolitionist until these genocidal idiots got in power.
Better still, sell him and ALL his family into slavery and all of his descendants for the next 1000 years.
Under normal circumstances I’d call you an extremist but in the case of Gove it’s a bloody good idea. Where do I sign?
I wonder what’s in it for Gove
Any investment by big pharma to get vaccine passport normalised will be worth hundreds of billions in the following years
he’s starting to look like a gate’s gimp
The Government has been a collection of paid off Gates’s sock puppets since day one of the long planned Covid event. Jail really will be too good for them.
Wouldn’t be the first time, I remember the story about Tim Yeo profiting from wind turbines. Transparency rules badly need an overhaul.
Introducing the death penalty for corruption in public officials, as in China, might do much to reduce it.
And the case for putting him in jail or worse is also strong…
We need to protect everyone from Gove-ID
“Despite all this, Gove insists that “the case for certification, overall, is a strong one”.”
What on earth do you mean “despite all this”? Are you by any chance assuming that the government is motivated by genuine public health concerns? If so, what planet do you live on? Here on Earth, they are motivated by holding on to the massive political power and control bestowed on them by taking part in the global festival of medico-fascism.
Tell that to the people in Florida, Texas, Wyoming, South Dakota, etc, etc.
The US is more less the only safe place, for now
Depends on where you are and then it probably it won’t be that long before they try to clamp down on the Covid skeptical states.
My understanding was that the president didn’t have much power over individual states in these matters.
Many US states are mandating vaccines for children as a condition to going back to school.
Yes, good luck to Mike Yeadon in keeping it that way.
I suppose they’re not taking vaxport refugees?
…until President Harris takes the reins.
Uh?
Maybe he should go back to Israel and see how well it worked out there.
“Medico-fascism” is that a posh term for genocide?
Yes.
Call me what you like but DON’T call me selfish.
We have given up a year and a half of our lives and still it’s not good enough for these incompetent, little shit weasels.
I am sooo angry.
A fully paid one, who didn’t have to forego a penny.
No politician or civil servant has any right to call anyone else selfish, noone.
Abso fucking lutely. You are so right.
This is also giving the green light to the more bigoted covidians out there to just have a go. It’s completely inexcusable from a politician.
He is basically saying the unvaccinated are fair game.
It will work both ways.
If it’s true what Gove said about non vaccinated being selfish surely he should be investigated as having potentially committed a hate crime?
Hesters response to Michael Gove
Actually you are the selfish one, you expect people to take a non licensed experimental drug, which does not offer immunity from Covid, or indeed stop the injected from passing it on, for a virus that to the vast majority of the population under the age of 83 is not as harmful as the Flu, but a product which has thus far killed 1500 people in the UK over 15000 in Europe and 12000 in the US.
Ihave given up 18 months of my life, lost a business, watched friends commit suicide for your scaremongering in order to bring in a Chinese credit style system. So Mr Gove if you really want a debate as to which of the population is selfish. I suggest you go take a look in the mirror.
Perfectly put
Spot on
I am very sorry that you have lost a business. I am certain you are not the only one.
Multiply those horrendous death figures by at least 10 and that may be a lot nearer the mark. The political establishment and medical mafia are doing everything they can to both discourage and to reject Yellow Card reports of death and injury.
Funny how all these politicians justify their policies by saying “it’s the right thing to do” without offering a shred of evidence to support their assertions.
I despise them utterly.
It’s a variation on “it’s common sense”.
i.e. it’s their own opinion, and they are too bigoted to see that other opinions might be valid.
The carrot disappeared, the stick came out and next comes the fist.
Kind of like Gove’s personal life.
Selfish? I have worked since 1975 without a break. I have served in the military. I have served in the NHS. I have raised two upstanding and self-reliant children. I own my own home. I, until recently, ran my own business (your government put paid to that). I have paid my taxes. I have stayed out of trouble. I have had many, many inoculations. I have had 18 months of my life stolen from me.
You Gove, have the temerity to call me “selfish” because I do want to participate in your experimental gene therapy trials…
I look forward to the day you and your ilk are incarcerated.
Sadly, I doubt any of them will see justice in their lifetime. However, I take solice in the knowledge that every one of the fuckers responsible for the last 18 months will burn in hell for an eternity.
Anybody not doing something that makes him and his ilk feel safer, is selfish? How does that work?
He doesn’t feel unsafe because of covid, but because we’re the control group undermining his scam
Could someone please text him that his appointment with the taxidermist is overdue?
What a jeffing tw_t.
Oh, well if he thinks I am selfish, I better get the vaccine.
Fucking cunt.
As I have pointed out elsewhere, but repetition is worthwhile.
This is the man who was selfish enough to go to a football match in Porto and then discover when he had been pinged that there was a convenient pilot scheme in the Cabinet Office so he did not have to self isolate. Selfish or what?
I am struggling to see why the dreadful “leader” Johnson continues to employ him
It was always going to be that way. It’s been decreed in the minutes of the SAGE conferences. Haven’t we all been living utterly irresponsible lives for decades (centuries, millennia?) by simply congregating with other human beings, to whom we risk passing on other respiratory viruses?
Nobody “knows” for sure whether vaccination is the right thing to do for long term health benefit of the community anyway. It’s only “selfish” to those who mistake emotive propaganda for fact.
They are psychopaths.
What about the fuckwits in his constituency that voted for him! That’s the really scary bit.
I would suggest that having the vaccine is selfish, as vaccines protect the recipient.
Vaccines SHOULD protect the recipient more than they harm, unfortunately for the majority of those coerced into the spike protein injections, they do not.
I wonder if the BBC can be prosecuted for excluding dissenting voices?
They never got prosecuted for their extremist economic views or anti-brexit bias.
I’d like to put Gove and others like him under house arrest and tell them they’re only allowed to leave if I get to jab them with genes of my choosing. See how he likes it when he has a giant “spike protein” coming out of his forehead.
That would be the unicorn spike protein would it not?
Gove perfectly demonstrates why every pantomime needs a villain. It is difficult to have a single person who the whole audience despises unless you create a caricature. Michael Gove saves us the bother of having to do it in real life.
Well he has got some strong competition in parliament
Well, yes, but where is the hero and heroine?
It could be argued that unconditionally accepting vaccinations, especially for young people, and an indifferent acquiescence to vaccine passports is “selfish”.
Just because one may be in a position where this certification scheme does not affect one’s life individually, or you may be happy to take any vaccine required for an updated pass, your children and grandchildren may not be happy with how the system has evolved when they find that they can’t procure their own food from a shop without proving they’ve been pumped full of whatever substances the government deems necessary.
Will this evolve into a social credit / checkpoint system like communist China? If so then those “unselfish people” who have had the vaccine, and done the “socially responsible” thing from Gove’s point of view, and all those who have sat on their hands while vaccine passes become common law, will have helped usher that dystopian state of affairs into existence.
It is selfish not to put up any resistance of any sort to the imposition of rules you don’t agree with. The Manic Street Preachers said it best: “If you tolerate this, then your children will be next”!
‘Even if you have been vaccinated you can still get the virus and you can still pass it on’
Advice from latest UK Government Poster (link below)
https://coronavirusresources.phe.gov.uk/covid-19-health-behaviours/resources/posters/
Kind of demolishes the case for ‘Vaccine Passports’ doesn’t it?
And yet the push on with them.
Will they stop calling us conspiracy theorists when we’re on trucks heading towards detention centres?
concentration camps more like…
Ah, Gove – the face that lunched on a 1000 dips
Another colossal fail from the media.
When cretins like Gove say these things, can someone, anyone, ask them why it is selfish not to take a vaccine when the manufacturer and all the empirical evidence from their population wide trials say that the benefit is entirely for the person who takes the vaccine?
Benefit to others: zero
Benefit to the vaccinated person: lower risk of hospitalisation and death (if you believe the pharmaceutical company and the government).
These journalists aren’t seekers of information and truth they are seekers of provocative headlines.
They are truly despicable in their incompetence, malice or both.
NOT INCOMPETENCE. This is a well oiled machine, centuries old. The people running the machine are lording it over everyone else. The media is a component of this organised crime network. The police and the military are also components. They recruit via the Freemasons. It’s all part of this nefarious power structure. It is our duty to start exposing it for what it is. There is no time left for mincing of words. Jimmy Savile and Jeffrey Epstein were integral parts of this crime network – COMPROMISE/KOMPROMAT agents.
The arrogance comes from 17 months of no pushback from the complicit legacy media. I hazard to guess how many schoolchildren return to school after the holidays.
This catastrophe has un-masked (to a now confessed late black-piller) is how powerful the control and amplification of messaging through mass media is. If you can steal an election, why would these high finance corporates stop there? Climate lockdowns? Centralised digital currency?
Ohh, wee Gove just called me a name, he’s such a meanie, he’s hurt my feelings.
I reckon more of these villains will keep doing this on TV in an effort to get it some traction within wider society. Will probably work to some degree too sadly.
This snivelling, little, jumped up, greasy toad has the audacity to call others selfish? He’s a notorious backstabbing brown noser. His hypocrisy knows no bounds.
What is selfish about not wanting to run the risk of a blood clot, infertility, a stroke, or myocarditis to name a few?