“Outrageous Proposal” to Introduce Vaccine Passports Could Split Tories “Irretrievably”, Warns Steve Baker
Introducing vaccine passports wouldn’t just create a two-tier society but would risk splitting the Conservative Party “irretrievably”, says the Conservative MP Steve Baker, warning the Prime Minister against proceeding with this “outrageous proposal”. Reports suggest that upwards of 42 Tories could vote against the Government’s plans in Parliament, but the deciding vote will likely lie with Labour. The Sun has the story.
Mr. Baker, Deputy Chairman of the Covid Recovery Group of Tories, told the Sun: “It is an outrageous proposal, and one that doesn’t seem likely to do any good.
“Who are they now trying to coerce? Whose education are they now trying to deny?
“I believe the Government is in terrible danger of splitting the Tory Party irretrievably – after all we have been through with Brexit.”
Tory MP Mark Harper said Number 10 is making vaccines compulsory through the back door by threatening to deny a university education to those who refuse.
He warned: “Persuasion is much better than coercion.” …
Professor Robert West, a behavioural scientist who advises the Government on Covid policy, warned the plan could spectacularly backfire.
He said: “Using a sort of stick approach as opposed to a carrot and stick approach, I think is a mistake.
“By and large, if we want to get people to do things, it’s far better to get them on board with the idea of doing it rather than getting them to do it because they feel they have to.
“When you do that you start to create resentment.” …
The PM’s spokesman said: “We are still looking at the scope for vaccination certification.”
While the Tory Party are at war over vaccine passports, Labour’s stance was mired in chaos and confusion.
Labour had suggested they could join Tory rebels to inflict a humiliating defeat on vaccine passports in the Commons when a vote on it is held in September.
But muddled Sir Keir Starmer today hinted he could back the plan. He told LBC: “What I don’t want to see, just to be very clear about this, is I don’t want to see vaccine passports used on an everyday basis for access to critical things like health, dentistry, food, etc.
“So, for sporting events, I’ll look at what the Government puts on the table.
“I want to be pragmatic because we all want all business sectors and sporting sectors to return as quickly as possible.
But not for everyday use.”
He also said vaccine passports must include the option to have a negative test instead.
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There is no “Conservative” Party FFS.
Baker and his clique are an embarrassment, a paper tiger.
A tissue paper tiger with wet papier maché fangs. Instead of a ROAR its MPs open their soggy mouths and sloppy, sloshing thwapping sounds escape.
Even the proposal of a Segregation Passport is a disgrace. The fact that even with the jab you can still spread ‘covid’ makes a mockery of the coercion. They can’t possibly say how bad you would have been had you not had the jab. Data Scientists give their employers the data they want to see.
Amen.
And everyone who harps on about the testing alternative still doesn’t get it in full.
The government’s ‘response’ to Covid has never been about protecting us from any disease.
Well I suppose we all draw the line at different points but for the hard core of anti lockdown MPs in the Tory party the only reason I can think they are still in the party is that they can’t see much point in leaving. The only thing they could try is to threaten the bring down the government by voting against them on everything, but they would likely be deselected and replaced with pro-lockdown MPs in their safe Tory seats and the PM would be returned to power. But the likes of Swayne must already have complete contempt for the leadership, and he doesn’t really hide it.
There are conservatives, admittedly not many, and there are Blair infiltrators
“There are conservatives” Yes, 42 at most.
There are quite a few more closet Conservatives ready to abstain from voting I believe. Sir Graham Brady is quiet about the number of letters he is getting. There is increasing disquiet in the Tory party with what is happening. The only way to save the party is for a change of both leader and his closest ministers
‘There are quite a few more closet Conservatives ready to abstain from voting … ‘
<yawn>
‘Blair infiltrators’. The coalition of the county set, chinless wonders, and used car (or fireplace) salesmen that is the Tory Party don’t need ‘infiltrators’ – they do it all on their own.
They do now, since Blair encouraged them
It’s hilarious how Tory supporters have this tendency to blame others for everything – like snotty-nosed kids caught red-handed whining ‘”Tweren’t me, sir” in the playground. So now we have “It were that kid Blair wot dun it”.
FFS – the Tories have been in power for most of the last 40 years, with Blair and Brown providing a brief interregnum that was mainly continuity in crucial aspects.
… but it’s still “Not me, sir” when it comes to analysing this current excess of global capitalism run rampant.
I’m a long time member of the Labour Party, but I don’t go around blaming Cameron for the sad homunculus that is Starmer.
This global capitalism you refer to exists only in your imagination since Lockdown is communist.
So what if the Conservative party is in charge? They, under Kim Jong Johnson, have imposed communism and communism is what it is, regardless of who implements it.
As for Brown and Blair, they were merely diluted socialists though Brown was much less diluted than Blair.
This is absolutely correct. It doesn’t matter how you arrive at totalitarianism it always gives the same result.
Cameron was a Blairite as were many of the so called Tories who came into the Tory party since Blair. So its not really blaming the parties, its blaming the Blairites. He fundamentally changed all of the parties
And Blair described himself as the heir to Thatcher.
I voted C but I wish I hadn’t. There wasn’t much choice for someone who believes in equal opportunity, free speech, democracy and helping people reach their optimum potential even getting rich.
Maybe a “real” Labour Party would be the answer, one that makes sure working class people have equal opportunity at the outset of their lives but never, ever imposing equal outcome. Otherwise, zero incentive and the resulting low productivity of many only widens the gap.
You call yourself Think Harder and start with ‘I voted C but I wish I hadn’t‘.
No of course not: That was Blair, with Cameron simply a disciple.
I’m glad I took the trouble to look up the word “homunculous” a brilliant and fitting use of the term if I may say so.
blimey, we had years of Thatcher being blamed for all manner of things.
My friend was in the Labour party but left and started her own party. (Probably post John Smith). Must be getting close to that point now?
That’s because many of the libertarians (T. Young being a case in point) are Tory stalwarts and refuse to accept their party is largely responsible for destroying the NHS well before Covid – and then stamping its remains into the ground using covid as an excuse. I naively believe Corbyn might have led us down a different, better path – anything other than the murderous policies we got – at least he doesn’t look and smell like Blair. I also agree with you and most others here that Starmer is more than useless – I hope the entire system is consumed by a leviathan lurking deep in the Thames – it’s a long shot but these days I’d reckon on anything.
“the Tories have been in power for most of the last 40 years” yeah, in name only.
There hasn’t been a proper Conservative Party for years and years. Cameron is not a Conservative nor is Major. Maggie was – just. Heath, certainly not I could go on. All the main parties do is copy each other and jump whichever way they think will get them into power. The whole ‘party’ election system needs looking at. I vote for the Independent candidate now out of principle and hope they have a mind of their own. In most constituencies you could put a Monkey up so long as they had a blue or red rosette they’d win.
If I may correct you, the Tories have been in power for most of the past two hundred years, just.
Got it in one. I’ve been describing them that way for decades, and always I hear in reply ‘oh you’re just anti … blah, blah, blah, blah, blah (repeat ad nauseam) … ‘
the far left do like infiltrating don’t they!
There is nowhere for them to go unless they reach the point that either they can get enough support to create a “New” Conservative Party or the government becomes so authoritarian that they resign in disgust.
You would’ve thought between all the parties there was enough for a freedom part but I think many still believe it will all go away and so they continue to play party politics. Or worse, they alll want to be part of the authoritarian coalition!
If they all resigned in disgust I wonder how the MSM would cover it; “50 MPs lost their minds and are conspiracy theorists” or “50 MPs resign to spend more time with their families because Supreme Leader
GatesJohnson is doing such a good job there is no need for checks and balances”.Supposedly nowhere for us to go in 2015. We went there anyway.
Aside, Bake’s not in a safe seat.
In 2015, Labour ran “David Williams” and got 11,588 votes. In 2017, they switched to “Rafiq Raja” and for no reason that I could possibly explain, their vote leapt to 20,188.
Despite Baker’s pitiful, craven and public submission on the issue of Indian Kashmir, in 2019 he actually lost votes, and “Khalil Ahmed” crept even closer to unseating him.
He’ll be out next time, whatever he does or says. Demographics is destiny.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wycombe_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2010s
‘Well I suppose we all draw the line at different points but for the hard core of anti lockdown MPs in the Tory party the only reason I can think they … ‘
… are snivelling, lickspittle trough grubbers with no self-respect, too much self-interest, and an ‘the end justifies the means’ attitude to making money who haven’t the balls to stand as independents.
Every Tory MP must be made to watch this before voting. This guy’s credentials couldn’t really be higher, and even if half of what he is saying is true I would not want my name going down as someone who forced vaccination on teenagers. History will not be kind to those who pushed this experimental medicine.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/covid-vaccine-is-poison-says-dr-peter-mccullough/
Yes McCullough is so well regarded in the US that silicon valley have backed off trying to silence him.
Depends who writes the ‘History’. If we lose this battle, we will be assigned full blame.
Dr McCullough has several key advantages over any MP; He is exceptionally well qualified medically; he has published a lot of research on related medical issues; he has stood on several Ethics Committees for new drugs, and is doing so now ( drug not identified ) but for me the most important aspect is his proven ( by his own account) track record in the successful ( bar two of his patients to date ) preventative treatment of people with the virus with existing drugs including Ivermectin, adopted by others within and outside the US. His information about how other drug treatments have been pulled with far far lower numbers of attribute deaths is very important – “are you watching/reading this Boris/Vallance/JVT/Whitty/Sage/NoB et al”?
The real question is why?
Why does the government want to coerce demographics that are not vulnerable to serious illness. Where is the evidence and I don’t mean assertions, where is the hard data that shows it will be on the right side of the risk balance. Who says there is even a pandemic – it’s based on chemical detection from a misused tool – PCR. The tools being used are supposed to back up a clinicians suspicions.
I suspect the answer is in the narrative that the young spread it to the old and the old vote for Boris. I turned 68 today and I wouldn’t vote for Boris if he promised I could live to 101 with a 21 year old boy friend.
The vaccines don’t stop you spreading covid and he knows that.
It’s about eliminating the control group of the unvaxxed and about covering up their folly.
That and making sure over 50% of the population carry and use biotech IDs.
The incompetence meme, again. You need to swap Folly with Criminality.
There has been folly and evil, yes
I’m not seeing much folly. I am seeing a lot of evil.
Happy birthday.
“He also said vaccine passports must include the option to have a negative test instead”
Well, if that gets added in then getting a passport will be a technicality making it pointless even if you believe in these stupid passports in the first place.
“getting a passport will be a technicality”
How do work that out?
I am not intending to get tested, ever.
Julian, you don’t need to actually take a test. You get a lateral flow test for free (you can order online from gov.uk), input the barcode number online and report the outcome, negative, or, erm…negative 🙂
That’s it. Then your vax pass is good to go.
The whole thing is ridiculous. The fact that Starmer thinks this is a good idea shows what an absolute moron he is.
I don’t suppose the tests will be free forever.
At this stage I don’t think I would want to do as you suggest, because it sustains one of the Lies that sustain the Big Lie. But that’s a personal choice and I appreciate others will have different pressures on them.
I’m no fan of Starmer but I don’t think he’s a moron and I don’t see why you assume he thinks it’s a good idea in the way you mean it. It’s a good idea politically, and that is what matters to him. They appear covid-safe and get to oppose the government and appear more inclusive and democratic.
Yes, perhaps you are right. In which case i have even less respect for him
The ONLY reason my wife and I have had tests is for travel. Its the least worst solution for that , although there is a real risk that will be removed if the US goes down the route of insisting on mandatory vaccines for crossing their border, which I give odds of 50/50 before the end of PCR testing at the end of the year.
Why any sane person would take a test for any other reason beats me.
I had my first ever test last night for travel tomorrow. The woman was amazed it was my first one in all this time.
Forced to because of their job?
I agree. I won’t pretend I’ve had a test because then I will always have to do it. And the whole charade perpetuates the myths. No tests ever for me.
True.
Sofar. In the UK, not in other countries.
And you are still supporting it, the discrimination and the system by participating that way.
I’m not participating in it, just sharing some information.
Tests are already being manipulated to get the desired result. The inventor of PCR (and Nobel prize winner) said before this even started that they were being misused and that a Ct of >25 should not be used because you get into the territory of finding anything in anything.
Then he called Fauci a liar. Then he died.
‘Please make up your mind, Madam. Passport or nose poke?’
‘Oooh, I really don’t know… Wayne, which do you think is better?’
‘Dunno either, Mum. Why don’t you ring the doctor and ask his advice?’
‘Ooh, can’t, I left my phone at home.’
‘Then you can’t show your vaxport either, can you, madam? So when did you last get your nose poked?’
‘Oh dear, I can’t remember.’
‘Yes you can, Mum, it was last Saturday, when you were told to self-isolate.’
Different testing or quarantine requirements for the unvaxxed are nothing but discrimination.
They are NOT medically justifiable at all.
And if the vaccines were really about health, they would have everyone tested for T cell immunity beforehand and exempt those who have it for life, as they are also needlessly endangering them through vaccination.
gee, a whole 42 willing to vote for sanity.
“ upwards of 42 Tories could vote against the Government’s plans “
Not exactly a convincing cry of freedom … and greased palms and threats will probably diminish that number.
Then we have the alternatives ….
PHE runs the country of behalf of their University funders. Karmer is just installed controlled opposition. They want climate lockdowns, which after several lockdowns, the general population has been groomed for.
These same higher up’s advancing want to control State level energy to ‘save the planet’.
People often use the pro vaccine argument of Polio. My grandparents knew people who had polio, my parents did too, it went on through generations and then, a vaccine worked on for years came along and polio became a distant memory. Covid on the other hand, appeared out of the blue, didnt affect the majority and all of the other life ending conditions like pneumonia vanished. The ‘vaccine’ also appeared and didn’t give immunity. How does anyone believe the spin? Is it all about ID, why dont they say. Why a medical procedure for ID, is it the only way they can coerce enough?
if this was really a deadly disease, you would not need laws to stop people mixing and going out – they would be in the bunkers. likewise, the vaccine would be a no-brainer for most. worth the risk.
i think the numbers on vaccinations are bullshit, especially with kids.
I also hear the same people comparing it it smallpox! Smallpox vaccination aka cowpox can be horrific for some and it was only necessary to give it to those at risk. When they’ve offered it to military/scientists the take-up has only been around 10%.
Notice how this so called skeptic puts his party before the citizens he’s supposed to represent? Bastard.
OK, but what would you have him do? If he resigns the whip, he has no power to change anything and will out of the House come GE time.
I think we can say with confidence he has no power to change anything as demonstrated by his track record in the last 18 months.
Right, and you want to lower that even more. Makes no sense to me.
I think that his only decent option, if he believes what he says, would be to split and form a new Party – something for which the time is more than ripe.
Baker often talks a lot of sense then he lets us down again and again.
It will be too late for many by the time the majority of the “tory” party wakes up. It won`t be long before most work places will insist on two jabs to enter the premises.
There needs to be an immediate cancellation of the hated vax passport scheme and and immediate cancellation of the vaccination roll out which is killing many thousands across the world.
Baker voted with the government a couple of times after he’d criticised them, but since then Baker and the rest of the sceptic wing have been pretty consistent in speaking and voting against every covid measure. What else do you think they could/should do, and what would be the consequences of them doing what you suggest?
Permanently split off from the party.
That’s their only option probably. A big ask, though I would do it if I were him (easy for me to say). Would it help? Maybe. It could form the start of a proper conservative party. It might encourage a few shy sceptics on the Tory benches.
My attitude on this is much the same as the one the generals in the first world war was towards the rank and file troops.
For them sending the troops charging at the guns was a shot to nothing. They were useless to them in any other capacity, so might as we’ll have a go.
Steve Baker is serving no useful purpose to me. I acknowledge he and the other 40 odd MPs breaking off is a long shot. But his political career is of no value to me, only to him. So it’s a shot to nothing for me. If he fails some other Conservative stooge will take his place and be as ineffective as Baker is now.
We need to call them what they are, Segregation Passports
And that is just the start of it….
Long and frightening article that seems to sum up what many on here feel
https://www.coreysdigs.com/technology/the-global-landscape-on-vaccine-id-passports-part-2-how-your-digital-identity-is-moving-to-the-blockchain-for-full-control-over-humans/
“Professor Robert West, a behavioural scientist who advises the Government on Covid policy, warned the plan could spectacularly backfire.
He said: “Using a sort of stick approach as opposed to a carrot and stick approach, I think is a mistake.
“By and large, if we want to get people to do things, it’s far better to get them on board with the idea of doing it rather than getting them to do it because they feel they have to.”
Jeez, they’re not even hiding it now! But if there’s a pandemic why are you trying to “Get people to do things” because surely they wouldn’t need coercing or even persuading! None of this is about health, and it never has been. It’s the complete opposite. Its always been about the ‘nudging ‘ people into completely changing their behaviour and mindset, for the “greater good” of course, in preparation to accept all the other digital passes and currency in the hallowed “Great Reset.”
After the stupidity of the last year, I think that the country deserves to be run into the ground by a “profligate” Labour regime.
As opposed to being run into the ground by a profligate Tory one?
Well, yes, exactly.
If you’re on the other side of that firehose of taxpayer’s wealth the state is directing at you, you’d keep quiet.
Quick update on France. The Senate tried its best to water down the Macron edict, but most of its amendments were overruled by the government majority in the lower house. What’s left is not far off Macron’s original proposal , but with a date of 15 November when it ends without a new vote in Parliament. 50 people is the new ‘virus limiting number’ for retaurants bars etc. Shopping centres escaped. Macron’s latest words from the Pacific are those of a madman who believes he is a King rather than an elected official. The majority of French are now opposed to him , he is going for broke on behalf of his handlers.
Yesterday the ‘case’ numbers did not appear , they just have today. just over 5,000. The trend follows the UK albeit at a quite bit lower level. For this the French Parliament has agreed draconian totalitarian discriminatory legislation. It will not be forgotten. We cannot wait to escape our prison.
France has fewer “tests” so it has fewer cases in it’s manufactured casedemic.
There are currently over 430,000 per day, predominantly RT-PCRs, how many in the UK?
England since 1st of March 2021: 920,665 per day on average (median: 929,871)
and what is the CT rate used in these fraudulent RT-PCR mass testing?
An expiration date is a good thing.
I love this video, it is debateable what exactly the gesture was in aid of, there are one or two theories. Macrons dictats, though seem to have inspired it. The perfect gesture. fight shit with shit so to speak. Incredible how it was removed in the blink of an eye from YT
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/watch-french-farmers-pour-excrement-into-macron-s-residence_SNeJcbnQOUZhkuY.html.
Starmer has enough splinters up his a**se from fence-sitting to replace all the wooden benches in London parks. There have been many shallow politicians of little or no conviction, but Starmer is the finest epitome of them. I suppose he’s waiting to be told what to do by the next focus group or duff opinion poll he comes across. For all his vaunted cleverness, he comes across as one of the most stupid people that has ever led a party.
I like the Corbyn brothers myself.
Starmer has ensured it will go ahead, Starmer is Corbynite scum.
Actually I think Corbyn would be against these
If Corbyn were against these, it would be entirely inconsistent of him.
He did vote against mandatory vaccination for care workers
I could have sworn Labour were going to oppose vax passports on the grounds of infringement of liberties, and that is what swung the polls towards them last week. Did I get that wrong?
He warned: “Persuasion is much better than coercion.”
Persuade a young person in good health, who has almost no chance of dying from the virus, to take an unnecessary clot shot? Why?
He talks a good game every single week (Harper too) but in reality have they sent letters in to the 1922 to remove Boris?
If the answer is no, they’ll all mouth and no trousers.
Why on earth would the Tories want to get rid of Johnson, and even if they did, who would replace him? Not a sceptic, for sure. Unless you think the rest of the Tories who have voted with the government are all secret sceptics itching to “come out”?
Anyone who cares about anything other than stopping this totalitarian tsunami doesn’t understand the historical moment we are in.
Any disruption will do at this point. Anything to throw these psychos off their game.
Yes, I think you’re right. It’s possible they think they can do more from the inside, but it seems like wishful thinking to me.
This isn’t about lockdown any more.
Its an increasing illiberal and authoritarian prime minister riding roughshod over everything. Aided by HM official opposition.
Something is needed to trigger debate and discussion which has so far been suppressed. A leadership contest can do that (and Johnson can stand).
Simply saying “i dont like that” whilst doing absolutely nothing about it as Harper and Baker are currently just makes it worse – it emboldens Boris.
No big loss if the Tories split, to the contrary.
The segregation passports are a disgrace to the British people and to democracy here and elsewhere, in all forms and environments.
How an alleged human rights lawyer cannot see this is beyond me.
Every discrimination we are ashamed of today has been legal, consensus, demanded, introduced and cheered upon by the political, medical, media and business elites and practiced with enthusiasm by them, the state and the majority of the people.
The descendants of those people are ashamed for their ancestors now.
Starmer, Johnson&co and their descendants and this discrimination will be no exceptions.
If this was about vaccination and health, they would stick to jabbing the vulnerable only.
If this vaccination was about health at all, they would have everyone get a T cell immunity test before even contemplating to jab someone.
If any testing was about health, they would only perform, let alone mandate, a standardized non-invasive test on everyone, without any exception or distinction aka discrimination.
Correct. It would be logical to do blood tests first, then offer an infection mitigation drug (‘vaccine’) as the next step (assuming the tests were independent from certain drug companies, as it were). It would reduce the real risk to each individual, but would not be cheap, and all sorts of things would crawl out of the woodwork, which they (that is to say, the politicos) wouldn’t like the look of. Of course, the whole thing would be misappropriation of resources re. health care.
If Baker were to call for Johnson’s resignation in a piece in the Telegraph for example, setting out in some detail his failures as leader, that could do a lot of good. Character assassination is the way to go (not that you’d think Johnson would need any help beyond what he inflicts on himself). Even if Johnson held on for a bit longer, anything that can help remove him as soon as possible, or weaken his hand, is extremely valuable. We can’t afford any more of his mistakes (thinking beyond Covid, war with Russia over Ukraine for example, and net zero). I wonder if Gove is damage goods by now. Javid might end up leader I bet (I suspect Javid does have an idea of the problems with the Covid narrative – he structured derivatives for an investment bank and that does require a certain amount of mental power.) In my view the modellers and ‘scientists’ are the true villains. They have a duty to be disinterested and value criticism. In this they have comprehensively failed. Most politicians, and this certainly includes Johnson and Starmer, may be good with words but are not intelligent in the way that matters. I… Read more »
None of them are that stupid. They know it’s all bollocks.
Calling for his resignation and explaining why might help, yes. I don’t know if he’d be expelled from the party for that. Possibly not.
I disagree. For practical purposes they are “stupid”. Even if they sat down for a day to focus on this issue, reading through the archives of this website, many of them would still just end up saying ‘good points I’m sure, but we are trying this tack now’. Of course, many of them don’t have the instinctive revulsion to the infringements on liberty that we have, and a casual approach to spending other people’s money, so there isn’t any real incentive for them to try and understand.
Blockchain appears to be the end goal, for that they need control, of the climate issues, the people and most importantly the Money
I used to have some respect for Steve Baker. Now I just see him as a yapping Yorkshire terrier.
All he and the rest of the “rebels” so is lend the Conservatives a very thin veneer of respectability.
What should Baker do?
Letter to the 1922 to get rid of Boris.
There are already enough rebels that if they all did something would come close to the numbers needed to trigger a contest.
And when Johnson is gone, who takes his place? Then another letter?
What next? Labour?
Doesn’t neccesarily have to go – it triggers a contest which triggers debate and introduces accountability.
Whats the alternative? Do nothing at all and allow an increasingly authoritarian government to act with total impunity?
Well I think Labour are more deserving of our ire than Baker. They are, after all, the opposition.
Theyre not opposition. Theyre the rubber stamp.
Sets an example.
“I believe the Government is in terrible danger of splitting the Tory Party irretrievably”
And there it is.
For all he’s on the “right” side, his primary concern is not the country nor the people, it’s the “party”, the vehicle by which individuals like him are carried into power. And that’s all the matters to this bunch of gobshites we have in parliament. Individual or party power. The rest of us can burn as far as they are concerned.
In my opinion Johnson has gone completely doolally – I think its finally starting to dawn on people that the man has gone completely off the rails – nothing he says or does makes any sense anymore – he looks and sounds as if he is going to crack at any moment – judging by his appearance alone he looks a complete bloody mess – some say its staged but I don’t think it is I think its a sign that he sliding into mental illness – I don’t know whether he means what he says anymore – whether he is telling us what he really thinks or telling us what he is told to say – he seems to be all over the place – one minute we hear that behind the scenes Johnson is a liberal at heart and is sceptical of all this covid stuff but then he imposes vaccine passports and in front of the cameras he declares those who refuse the vaccine as nuts. He reminds me of Adolph Hitler during his last days in the bunker – rambling nonsense to anyone who will listen to him about final victories when the fact is that… Read more »
Reminds me of some footage of him dangling from a zip wire across the Thames, when he was promoting something or other. Might have been the Mayor of London then? Not sure.
What took you so long???
If Steve Baker is serious he needs to put his money where his mouth is , he, Charles wheeler, Graham Brady etc should resign and form a new party, that would have the effect of shutting down Johnsons strength, and would provide the country with a new party representing those of us who are not supporters of the Chinese style communist state being introduced through the Comm sorry Conservative party.
Its useless keep voting against Johnson and the lickspittle crutch to him that is Keir Starmer, it achieves nothing. Johnsons leadership needs seriously wounding, the way to do it is for a mass resignation, that would shut him down once and for all, if Baker etc are not prepared to do it, they are just tap dancing.
“Tory MP Mark Harper said Number 10 is making vaccines compulsory through the back door by threatening to deny a university education to those who refuse.”
At least those who refuse won’t swell the ranks of the repugnant, woke, brain-washed little Phd turds that the university system seems to turn out these days.
He’s right, it will split the party. I’m 68, a lifelong Tory voter. I voted Freedom Alliance at the last county council elections. Whilst the Tories head in this authoritarian direction, I will never vote Tory again. Thats if we actually have elections in the near future, once we are under a totalitarian One World Government.