Why is This Government so Wedded to the Ruinously Expensive and Completely Useless Test and Trace Programme?

There follows a guest post by David McGrogan, an Associate Professor of Law at Northumbria Law School.

With the so-called ‘pingdemic’ well underway, and showing no sign of abating, the question naturally arises: why are our politicians obsessed with finding technological ways out of the pandemic? What possessed them to imagine that ‘Test and Trace’ could ever be successful?

The proximate cause appears to have been an unholy alliance between Matt Hancock and Dominic Cummings, who looked at what had happened in South Korea and Taiwan and came to the bizarre conclusion that what had apparently worked there – in societies and circumstances totally unlike ours – could just be transplanted here and deployed as effectively. Whether this should be more properly be described as hubris or stupidity is a question I will leave to the reader to decide.

The problem, though, has much deeper roots. The Hungarian-French thinker, Anthony de Jasay, once made the observation (which, like all great observations, is deceptively simple) that there is a natural bias among politicians towards doing things. It takes a very special kind of person to get elected to national office and then resist using the power available to them. In fact, such a person may not exist at all – it is impossible to identify a leader even remotely resembling that type on either side of the Atlantic since, perhaps, Calvin Coolidge in the 1920s. Why do people decide to become politicians, after all? Because they want to do things.

The idea, then, that Boris and his Cabinet would have been able to simply sit there, apparently passively, while the virus ‘let rip’, was pretty implausible once the Chinese and Italians had gone into lockdown. The urge to do things would have been overwhelming. And it remains to this day. Letting the immune systems and common sense of the public take care of matters is anathema to our leaders, because it doesn’t involve them taking bold action or, indeed, doing anything much at all. This goes against the grain of their very psyches: in their own minds, they envisage themselves ‘winning’ in the war against Covid through their brilliant decision-making and uber-competence, and being hoisted onto the shoulders of the grateful populace and paraded through the streets accordingly. They don’t want nature to take the credit which they believe is theirs. In fact, it is pretty clear that they don’t really want the virus to reach natural equilibrium at all – they want to defeat it, preferably through some fabulous scheme.

The theorist of management, Brent Flyvberg, seeking to explain the attraction of politicians towards costly mega-projects (HS2s, Olympic games, Millennium Domes, HMS Queen Elizabeths, etc.), ascribed it to what he called four ‘sublimes’: the technological, political, economic and aesthetic. The technological sublime describes the sense of rapture associated with creating some technical, never-seen-before marvel; the political sublime refers to the attention and gratitude that accrues to politicians who build big; the economic sublime describes the sense of sheer delight which comes from spending vast amounts of money; and the aesthetic sublime refers to the pleasure that washes over everybody in the aftermath.

These sublimes all seem to have been at work in ‘Test and `Trace’ (and, indeed, in lockdowns in general) – doing something that has never been done before, getting lots of attention and spending huge sums doing it, and basking in the beauty of the achievement afterwards. Indeed, thinking of what has been going on since 2020 as a ‘megaproject’ akin to HS2 gets us quite close to the heart of the matter. After all, is there a politician alive in the U.K, today who is more attracted to megaprojects than Boris Johnson? Has there been a Prime Minister in the last 50 years who took more pleasure from throwing money at railways, roads, tunnels, and the like? Put in that way, his addiction to ‘Test and Trace’ seems very much of a piece with his character.

The important point about megaprojects, of course, is that they are often ruinously expensive and generally a bit rubbish. £37 billion has been allocated to ‘Test and Trace’, and it appears to have no effect whatsoever on viral transmission. The analogy with failed white elephant schemes like the Millennium Dome and (probably) HS2 is so obvious it almost goes without saying – but at least those endeavours didn’t involve food shortages, ruined holidays and weddings, and the end of our civil liberties.

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Smelly Melly
4 years ago

I’ve just heard a good story off my sceptical son. His best friends brother who’s in his mid twenties has been tested as positive (bear in mind his father is a retired GP working at a covid centre) but the young man hasn’t been jabbed. However, the young mans girlfriend who has had both jabs has now also tested positive.

So is the vaccine isn’t working or not, being as the to young people above probably didn’t even know they were ill.

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Lots of people with cognitive dissonance… They say the vaccine works, but even with the vaccine you can still get it, pass it on, and even die from it. They say that the symptoms are milder, but they ignore that lots and lots of people have had mild to non existent symptoms before the vaccine. The exact same thing with masks too. People are far more willing to listen to the media than to their own reason.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

The sympoms in younger people would likely be mild / non existent anyway, but even in older people are the milder symptoms seen recently down to the vaccine, or to the virus mutating to spread more easily but be less dangerous – as such viruses tend to do anyway?

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Of course South Korea and Taiwan got their immunity from SARS COV 1

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LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

It’s worse than that. They say the vaccines work but are still terrified of catching it, and terrified of people who have been vaccinated.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be whatever someone on the Gates payroll says it is.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

So is the vaccine isn’t working or not”

Well – it may have some effect. But that has to be balanced against the many-faceted harm side of the equation – which looks rather grim.

Like everything else in this shit-show – once you start out down the road of exaggeration and deception, you end up, like all liars, in a morass of contradiction – which induces more lying and deception.

Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The vaccine isn’t designed to sterilise. It’s designed to reduce the impact of symptoms.

Anything else is wishful thinking. The virus will still spread as it does, but there will be less hospitalisations and death.

That is exactly what we are seeing.

Quite why fanatics expect cases to disappear, or even why we are trying to stop cases appearing at this point is bizarre mission drift.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It’s designed to reduce the impact of symptoms.”

No. It was purported to be the salvation by creating herd immunity.

Of course – that was always an untested (literally) myth – as we soon found out.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

That’s not what it says on the authorisation statement

“The impact of vaccination with Vaxzevria on the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the community is not yet known. It is not yet known how much vaccinated people may still be able to carry and spread the virus.”

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/vaxzevria-previously-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

And that is pretty much what it says on every printed leaflet issue to us. Maybe some don’t read it in detail, but there it is. No doubt they are learning as they go along, but it is not a conventional ‘vaccine’, in effect.

NonCompliant
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

If what you are saying is true then there is no clinical argument for Vax Passport’s as the vaccinated will likely catch it off their own cohort as well as the unvaccinated. Segregation will not stop ‘cases’.

So why bother?

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Almost everything is down to politics. Scarily the vaccines have the best evidence base of any of the interventions, and that’s pretty small beer.

Nothing else makes any sense other than the “be seen to be doing something” bias amongst politicians.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Almost everything is down to power and the political influence it gives.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

To control the population. It has nothing to do with a so-called virus.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

There is no clinical argument for any concern over what seems to be a fairly mild form of flu.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

If you do catch proper COVID then your immune system is 40 times better at preventing re-infection than the JAB, this tell us the jabs are not very good at preventing infection…

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

The vaccines prevent severe symptoms in the majority. Carl Heneghan said today that it reduces symptoms to those ‘enjoyed’ by 30 year olds for most people who have taken it.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

and swaps it for a certainty of clotting problems in the jabbed.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Then it isn’t a vaccine its an inoculation to suppress symptoms, so stop calling it a vaccine then.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

That’s what a vaccine is. A vaccine stimulates an immune response. That’s it.

Anything else you think it is is based on your own definition, not the one used in medicine.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

How many times does it need to be repeated? This is not a vaccine, it is an experimental mRNA (messenger RNA) gene therapy injection that is still on trial and still isn’t licensed for anything other than ’emergency’ use.

eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

If it doesn’t provide immunity stop calling it a vaccine.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Vaccines stimulate immune responses. They may or may not sterilise.

That’s how the medics refer to them.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I repeat… How many times does it need to be repeated?
This is not a vaccine, it is an experimental mRNA (messenger RNA) gene therapy injection that is still on trial and still isn’t licensed for anything other than ’emergency’ use.
The words ‘Goldfish’ and ‘memory’ spring to mind.

lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

if it is designed to reduce symptoms why is it that so many of the double jabbed are ending up in hospital? So many we’re effectively about to lock down again, and there is general terror amongst the population. Doesn’t seem to be working does it?

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Because 66% of the population have had the vaccine – that’s over 40 million people.

The law of large numbers prevails.

Hospitalisations and deaths relative to cases is much lower than December. Like it or not the vaccine is doing its job.

But it is not a miracle cure. These are first generation vaccines, and relatively poor compared to influenza, measles, etc.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

The vaccine is doing its job, or the Indian strain produces less severe symptoms.

There’s nothing in these vaccines that protects us from the effects of being heavily infected. All they can do is to train our immune systems to better fight the infection, i.e. reduce replication.

But viruses spread through replicating, right?

So how can the Indian strain both be spreading faster and doing less harm?

Specifically, how can that be down to a change in our immune systems rather than a change in the effect of that variant on us?

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I can hazard a guess: it’s down to the type of antibodies the vaccines produce. They are IgG antibodies. These will circulate in the blood & hopefully limit the thrombotic damage caused by viral replication in the vascular system (notwithstanding the fact that they may also CAUSE some danage).

They don’t generate IgM antibodies that would stop replication in the respiratory system and therefore the virus remains transmissible.

I am just guessing though

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Actually they’re working at a similar rate to the annual flu jab (not a vaccine) which have been around for some years now without having its efficacy improved.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I think it tends to go up and down a bit, depending on how accurately they manage to estimate what is prevalent in a forthcoming season.

robnicholson
robnicholson
4 years ago

Because age is still the biggest factor in hospitalisations and the majority of the elderly are vaccinated. So expected rather than a surprise. Some people seem to believe the vaccine is magic and can prolong life of people with other serious co-morbidities.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Reduction of severity and reduction of symptoms should result in less transmission. Viruses aren’t magical, they cause harm and spread through the same mechanism: replication. Why then is transmission going up?

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

This is where the contradiction really hits. If the Government says the vaccination does not provide immunity or stop the transmission, but lessens symptoms, Why are Covid passports being introduced? Are they just a way of identifying and punishing those that will not obey?

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Do you REALLY believe that statement you have just made or is that what the sheeple are told to believe

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Reduce the impact of symptoms? Why? The lowest survival rate for those who are alleged to have caught the virus in the most vulnerable group is 99.32% and the average age of death is higher by two years than that for the population generally.

NonCompliant
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The vaccines don’t stop anyone from testing positive, they’re a complete joke in that regard.

Due to UK casedemic I thought I’d have dig into most recent numbers from UK Govt “Scariants of Concern” data sheet.

The table for Delta Scariant says data sample is 1st Feb to 21st June, so a month out of date, even though document itself is dated 9th July.

So… vaccine uptake from 50 years to 80+ is between 85% to 95%.

Cases in over 50’s?

Total: 12,404

1 Jab 4,651 = 37%
2 Jab 5,234 = 42%
Unvax 1,267 = 10%
Unknown 1,252 = 10%

How can anyone claim the vaccine can stop you catching it ?!?

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Because they are behaving as described by Toby; not much more than that.

mojo
mojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The vaccine is working very well. The government are lying to you, as they always do. Those who are vaccinated are becoming ill, whether now or over the winter. That is exactly what was intended. Bill Gates said very clearly in a talk at DAVOS during 2014/15 I think, that in order to save the world we must depopulate. Then he went on to say if humanity is to be saved we must vaccinate. These two statements do not sit happily together. Unless you turn the meaning of vaccination on its head. A silent weapon instead of guns and bombs. This is even more sinister because it’s done in the dark, through the paradigm of the nine famous words that Reagan quoted. The rhetoric from government now is that some have had a placebo and some haven’t, to calm everyone down as to what is to come over the winter. If you are not ill, you will have had the vaccination. Then you will get jabbed again for protection, and hopefully the unjabbed will also join the club. No one will stop to think there was no placebo. The jab is doing its job. Some will succumb early depending on… Read more »

JFJ
JFJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

I got the Indian variant of Covid after the first vaccine (AZ). I am 68 and fairly good fitness and it was like a bad cold with a headache and sore throat for about 4 days. Watching the ZOE app as I have been on it, many of the cases of that are hitting those vaccinated, which is interesting.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

‘Vaccine’ not vaccine. The ‘vaccine’ is not a vaccine.

Mark
4 years ago

All very plausible and surely correct as far as it goes.

But for the specific lunacy of continuing to push “test and trace” idiocy today, I’m more convinced by those who argue that it’s just another aspect of the overriding attempt to push vaccination.

“This won’t end until you are all vaccinated. See how much suffering the vaccine resisters are causing. “

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

Because without “test and trace” there would be no pandemic. They need to keep testing people to inflate numbers in order to fool the people into thinking that going out of lockdown has had a devastating effect. In a few weeks they will announce that we need to go back into lockdown again, this time for good.

primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago

Sorry for being thick i thought the answer was obvious

snoozle
snoozle
4 years ago

One needs a better name for the system. My creativity isn’t succeeding currently, but how about Track, Trace, and Shackle?

8bit
8bit
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

How about, Search and Destroy.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

Trick or Treat?

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

Spy ‘n’ Snitch

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Apologies, I inadvertently copied you.

(Unless you were copying me).

Very apt, I agree.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

Spy and Snitch.

[UPDATE – dammit, too slow. 😀 ]

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

Wouldn’t it save an absolute fortune to use existing fully developed and established technology? GPS monitoring ankle-bracelet tech has been widely used for years now, and is so popular among the criminal fraternity. This technology already utilises the ‘Curfew’ tool and will make the imminent return of National Lockdowns much easier to police.

RickH
4 years ago

This may be part of the story.

But, again, we are actually faced with another power grab mechanism ; T&T has people on a string.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Good grief, the author is either very naiive or oblivious to reality.

Our politicians are not running the country. Across the world governments are adopting and pushing similar policies and methods.

The priorities for the elites in charge is to get everyone injected, then it’s the passports, then abolish cash and then probably collapsing the world financial system. From this follows starvation and chaos.

They cannot “Build Back Better” if they haven’t destroyed what went before.

Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

To be fair, the positions are not mutually exclusive. Like you, I believe that it’s clear that our government is not following its own agenda on this – there is simply too much evidence of collusion in the imposition of lockdowns etc. However, the author is correct that politicians believe that they have to be seen to be “doing something”, and I’m afraid that the £37 billion splurged on T&T certainly meets three of the four of the criteria that he mentions. Clearly few of us are experiencing “the pleasure that washes over everybody in the aftermath”!

Richy_m_99
4 years ago

The thought occured to me this morning of what would have happened if this had hit us twenty years ago instead of now, when IT was in it’s infancy. Mobile phones had only just been invented, social media did not exist, and news came on paper which people had to pay for, or in a fifteen minute buletin on one off four TV channels.

Just how much has the dependence on technology made this far worse than it really is?

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Or, if there had been a total news blackout on the virus. No mention at all, nothing. Most people would have been unaware or if affected simply thought that we were having a particularly bad flu season and society would have continued to function.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

and the current scariant, namely Delta, is as bad as a normal Flu season (0.2% CFR)

Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Woodstock during Hong Kong flu is one possible example. HK flu probably as bad once you take out fake PCR ‘cases’.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

It would have been seen as a bad flu season (or couple of seasons), and would have merited some stories in the national newspapers (probably including the usual scare stories about lack of NHS capacity in winter, which have been around for years) – and that would probably have been about it.

This has really highlighted the massive downsides of the internet – without 24-hour news and antisocial media to continually amplify it, and the ability of many people to ‘work from home’ (or claim to be working, anyway), this shitfest could never have happened.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Mind you, remember who was our PM then! Yikes!!!

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

How much? 100%! We need to balance our being in awe of the magic of technology with our use of non technological brainpower!

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Spot on Richy. I think we all know the answer to your (rhetorical?) question.

charleyfarley
charleyfarley
4 years ago

“Don’t just do something,stand there!”

Ronald Reagan.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  charleyfarley

Heavens, how we need another Ronald and Maggie!

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

No we don’t. They weren’t the saviours lovers of The Good Old Days believe them to have been.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  charleyfarley

Yes. A yin approach as opposed to a yang approach is still an approach.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

So when do the sheeple realise the App is nothing more than their personal prison guard and delete the God awful thing ?!?!?

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

When they are hauled off the loo for using more than two sheets of lavatory paper by orang utans in hi-vis.

Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago

“Attracted to mega projects “ , what , like “Build back Better” , or installing a “new normal”, ID pass systems , restructuring society .

Yeah, must be the same problem everywhere, funny that .

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

My letter in BMJ on-line from 15 September 2020

Operation Moonshot or How to Shut Down Society and the Economy ForeverDear Editor
How many false positives will 10 million tests a day generate?

Julian
4 years ago

Why does the writer imagine anyone expected it, or any other measure, to work?
It’s all just theatre
Stop assuming there are sincere intentions here

J Pearce
J Pearce
4 years ago

https://www.evaluate.com/node/16330/amp

An interesting read! The Gov bought millions of LF tests and needs to get rid of them?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

Honest Joe Biden said the vaccines would stop you getting Covid19.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Yes, but he has always been a bit of a Cnut!

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Biden think s he CAN order the tides as he’s of the gerbil worming faith

Catee
4 years ago

“.. in their own minds, they envisage themselves ‘winning’ in the war against Covid through their brilliant decision-making and uber-competence, and being hoisted onto the shoulders of the grateful populace and paraded through the streets accordingly.”
Hopefully they will end up being paraded through the streets, but not by a grateful populace.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I liked the bit about ‘being hoisted’ too!

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

I started off by thinking ‘their heads may well be paraded through the streets but not necessarily still attached to their bodies’ but then thought that may instigate a knock on the door from the thought police, guess it still might 😘

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Never mind – we can share jokes and encouragement {for a short time, anyway) through the bars in our condemned cells!

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I support the restoration of the death penalty for treason by public servants and misconduct in office. The term public servant describes anyone, from the highest government minister and civil servant to the lowest street cleaner or dustbin worker.

Twelve34
Twelve34
4 years ago

Do Daily Sceptic have a Telegram channel? If not please, please get one.

RW
RW
4 years ago

I suggest a simpler explanation. The WHO is always busy with “eradicating diseases” and always following the blueprint of the smallpox eradication campaign: Employ (maximum) global surveillance to identify outbreaks. Prevent them from spreading by using suitable, localized elimination measures.

Except for smallpox, this hasn’t ever worked (for human diseases) and flu-type viruses are particularly unsuitable for employing these methods against them. Hence, they’re scaled gigantomanically and repeated endlessly in an attempt to force the camel through the eye of the needle even despite this doesn’t result in anything but putting an uncountable number of camels to a gruesome death.

Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago

Re de Jasay so Tao Te Ching…

“Governing a large country
is like frying small fish.
Too much poking spoils the meat.

When the Tao is used to govern the world
then evil will loose its power to harm the people.
Not that evil will no longer exist,
but only because it has lost its power.
Just as evil can loose its ability to harm,
the Master shuns the use of violence.

If you give evil nothing to oppose,
then virtue will return by itself.”

I hear criticisms of PMs and Presidents, “he didn’t do very much”, “thank feck for that” is my response. More often than not, ‘doing something’ ends up effing up a situation that society and the market, a tweak to the law, could have rectified. Trouble is people in general want their leaders to “do something”. And coercion and force are the most accessible levers, spaffing bank notes. All such are idiots who deserve each other. Not having a wise Muttley, God save us all from the awful two-faced Blair and his spiritual successor King Boris.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

May you live in Government Busy times should be the curse.

lutherkehrt@gmail.com
lutherkehrt@gmail.com
4 years ago

We have as a nation, apparently, set aside 24 billion in order to produce a great new navy. How can a new navy cost half the cost of test and trace?

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Because there’s only so fast that you can sink money into a few real, tangible things.

But when you’re throwing tens of billions at your cronies in return for numbers, the sky’s the limit in how fast or deep you can bury the corruption and kickbacks.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago

You’re confusing the cost of men and machines for the navy with bungs to chums for Track and Trace. There is no ‘equivalence’.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Easy, because lockdown and its accompanying paraphernalia are a doomsday cult, utterly devoid of reason, impervious to fact.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Cui bono covers most of it.

“This government” (and their extended cabal of cronies) is being enriched beyond their wildest dreams, not ruined.

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if their corruption came with demands to be index linked, to protect them from the inflation that they’re causing.

William Gruff
William Gruff
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

They must be hanged at some future date. They won’t be but they should be.

DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
4 years ago

I’ll go one better, this government, beyond myopic focus, is stuck in the sink cost fallacy. Be it lockdowns, masks, T&T they refuse to admit “that might not have been helpful.” I wrote to Boris last year (didn’t get an answer) when masks would go once started. No answer, and to be blunt, I’m amazed the mandate is gone. But that sunk cost fallacy is likely to push us into another lockdown this winter. If they won’t end T&T when it’s clearly doing more harm than good, what hope is there for sound government from this group.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

So basically, it’s all about ego’s then…

Don’t expect this shower, the very people who got us in the mess, to get us out of it.

John
4 years ago

If you receive a “ping” via the NHS app then whether you isolate or not is up to you. If you receive a communication from the NHS test and trace the you should isolate.

Annie
4 years ago

‘paraded through the streets’?
They’ll get that all right.
Lime felons on hurdles on the way to Tyburn.

Hopeless
4 years ago

The usual. The foolish and weak gulled by the spivs and sharp operators I.e. follow the money.

David101
4 years ago

Perhaps the conspiracy theorist’s notion of a nefarious cabal constituting an axis of evil orchestrating world events is like the Wizard of Oz…
The “man behind the curtain” may be the megalomaniacal whims of leaders and in this case their ambition to create a “Frankenstein” of technology (to mix metaphors!). Politicians in it for the short term (we hope anyway!) seem to be concerned with leaving some lasting concrete legacy and becoming popular, at whatever cost, and they will keep trying to do this until their term in office ends.
All the tech surrounding the management of this pandemic, most recently the NHS app, but most ominously the prospect of Covid passes, is “technological sublime” indeed. Sublime, that is, for those rubber-stamping the unleashing of this technology upon the population, i.e. those elites walled-off in their “gardens of Eden” and protected from its side-effects.
Not so sublime, in fact the bane of many people’s lives, for those masses for whom it is intended.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago

Having spent time working in a few public sector organisations, there’s a definite unwillingness to abandon a white elephant even if it’s blatantly obvious to anyone looking on that it’s a total loss. Every large project WILL succeed even if it takes longer and costs more than budgeted for, and doesn’t work in the end. The only time I’ve ever seen a white elephant set aside was when something with a higher profile and more expensive price tag superseded it, so it could be ‘retired’ without embarrassment. Abandoning a project would mean those in charge of it would have their ‘management’ skills questioned so they simply move the goalposts instead, and this is where the emperor’s new clothes come in. Senior managers in the public sector are all politicians (with differing levels of skill) and it’s all about the spin, even when they’re dealing with each other.

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

I think you’ve nailed it. This is exactly what is going on.

BoycottEuropeanEmpire
BoycottEuropeanEmpire
4 years ago

There’s no ‘probably’ about it.

BS2 is one of the major crimes of 21st century UK public policy.

It is a deeply evil, wasteful crime scene. All involved should walk the plank (metaphorically speaking).