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NonCompliant
4 years ago

I’m hearing the Dept Health & Social Care are so thrilled with their VAX passport system that they’d now like to roll it out to the workplace, to help ‘encourage’ people back into the office.

After today’s ‘surprise’ announcement I expect a few weeks of denial followed by an official announcement saying it’s happening.

Time to make plans if you’ve not done so already folks.

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

How long will it be before you need a vax passport to go into a supermarket, gym, hairdressers etc.

Mr_Human
4 years ago

The time for skirting around extreme sounding worst case scenarios has passed. Mega prisons are being built in the UK, perhaps to incarcerate the unjabbed if it becomes a criminal offence to be an organic, non genetically modified human. UKcolumn.org has detailed the Govt public tender contracts advertised for additional crematorium & morgue facilities. Perhaps they expect a great die off in autumn-winter from the antibody dependent enhancement for those injected, as warned about by the scientists and doctors within the Great Barrington declaration. The same scientists who warned the Govt and wrote to various public health bodies in the EU last year warning them of potential for blood clots as side effects of the jabs, and one’s own immune system response being too strong especially in younger people. All this has come to pass and is playing out in real time. I hope they are wrong. If there is a great die-off this winter, it may be blamed on a variant and specifically blamed on the unjabbed. Public sentiment may be on board with criminalisation of being unjabbed, and agree with forcible injections. We need to open our eyes to the unbearable truth of what is now in the… Read more »

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr_Human

Well said. We must always have faith, and never, ever surrunder!

Annie
4 years ago

So, all you free and happy double-jabberwocks, you can cross France, Spain and Greece off your holiday bucket list.
It’s going to end up as a pretty short list, I fancy.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I have had both “jabs”, but don’t consider myself free and happy, in fact the opposite is true. I hate this apartheid that is being created. Never in recent history has a medical procedure been required to enter a leisure event.

Laurence
4 years ago

Let’s keep whole classes or even years away from their schools because of an illness they haven’t got, which hardly affects them if they do, in case they infect older people whose risk of death was increased by less than 1% in the worst year of the disease.   Over 80s death rate 2018 : 15.0%, 2019: 14.4% (exceptionally benign year) 2020 (adjusted to 52 weeks for consistency): 15.9%. (all figures England and Wales)   Despite the fact that more over 90s have died WITH Covid to date (30,050) than under 70s (24,326).   And one statistic that really should terrify you – the number of under 20s who have died WITH Covid since COVID started in the UK: 38 , and if you include everyone under 40 you get to the dizzying heights of 893 deaths, 1 in 35,000– Aren’t you pleased the government locked up 30 million people under 40 for a year or more ?   This is at best a level of negligence and stupidity which has resulted in one of the worst abuses of humanity in the 21st Century.   Boris, Keir, Chris, Sir Patrick, and your foreign counterparts, notably Anthony Fauci, should feel deep… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Great data summary, Laurence.

I fear we sometimes get too bound up in just ranting and detail, when clearing the undergrowth and going back to the basic underpinning facts and falsehoods does the job better.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

Blackmailing/coercing the young…..absolutely criminal, BJ! Where is your conscience?

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

Conscience? That word is not in Bozo’s vocabulary.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Unless he’s a classifiable psychopath then he does have one and that’s what we have to appeal to.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

You may be waiting a while. Has Tony Blair repented for Iraq?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Actually, in this climate of all-embracing falsehood, he seems spectacularly in his conscience-free comfort zone.

… and he had significant opposition within the populace.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I know, I know! But still. Look at it long term. I’m not religious but what’s that quote about the sinner repenting? We can’t give in to those who want to see violence and bloodshed on the streets (including a good proportion here). It really is not the answer.

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
4 years ago

That foreign piece shit can stick his large venues up his arse, we are not all fixated like the shit they have in cities

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

Peaceful protest will beget…
Violent protest will beget…
Martial Law? will beget…
????

I have only seen the first part of the script. Anyone read it through to the end?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Faint signs of hope (I hope).
1: Just returned from local Londis (maskless, of course), the assistant had his nappy hanging off one ear/another customer came in, saw the situation and whipped off her mask.
2: Had to send for an ambulance yesterday for MIL ( she’s OK,thank you).
After being harangued, threatened, emotionally blackmailed, etc on the phone about having to wear face nappies when the ambulance is within a radius of 50 miles because if you don’t, everybody will die, etc, when the paramedics came in ,although they were wearing masks, said when we went to put ours on said: “Naaaa, no need to bother!”
Perhaps, as Churchill said: “Perhaps if it’s not the beginning of the end,perhaps it’s the end of the beginning?”.

TreeHugger
4 years ago

Went to join a gym yesterday. Asked about the situation going forward and the answer was ‘everything is back to normal’. No masks unless you want to wear one (about 5% entering had them on, & most staff) all equipment available, classes starting back up. Unless the government changes rules that’s how it will stay. I fear vaxx passports are on their way, but the gym isn’t going to do so voluntarily.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Good to hear.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago

Yesterday there were about 50% masked in the farm shop and 80% in the Co-Op. I was dreading going downtown today but there were less than 20% masked in the street. Several shops still had “masks essential” signs but I didn’t go in to see if they meant it.

I walked down the back lane and sat on the seat. Four unmasked people came by and all said “good afternoon!” so it’s improving.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  chris c

Good to hear.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

It’s difficult to comprehend just how far this country has fallen in the past 18 months.

Johnson is a dictatorial tyrant and at the head of a criminal regime.

Surely it is the duty and responsibility of right thinking people to resist and rectify all the wrongs that are currently taking place. Johnson and co., must be held to account for their crimes.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

The Johnson Junta has to go.

It’s as simple as that.

The bumbling to hide his lack of character (what he does when he thinks no one is looking) has stopped working.

JayBee
4 years ago

I am far more disappointed by and afraid of the majority of the people than of the governments of the UK and the RoW.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yep, me too

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Time to get the stick out on “our” political class.

You work for us, the state does not own us.

Get back in your box or you’ll be put there.

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
4 years ago

You know the best way to encourage vaccine take-up amongst UK citizens?

Make sure that the number of deaths from Covid goes up.

I wonder how long it will be before the Government and the medical Establishment figure that one out…

steve_z
4 years ago

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001358/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_18.pdf

page 11 – delta has case fatality rate 1/10 of alpha

page 17 – delta has given 118 double vaxxed and 92 unvaxxed deaths ‘with’
latter doesn’t really tell use much unless we have the age profile. I expect all the deaths are in the hypervulnerable. don’t know if unvaxxed were elderly people too ill to give consent or were just against being vaccinated

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I expect the low CFR of the delta is what is giving the low deaths we see now rather than the vaccine. But we’d need more data to know for sure.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I don’t know how deliberate it has been but one of principal harms done has been the abandonment of any attempt to collect meaningful data. No control groups anywhere, just futile measures chucked into the mix to muddy the waters.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I suspect decent work is being done by people in for example PHE. It just never makes it to the public consciousness.

Unfortunately the only person I know who works in PHE is a bed-wetting, mask wearing fanatic who thinks this is on a par with spanish flu. Just a sample of 1 though

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Should it not be a basic principle of governance that any and all statistical and numerical information gathered by government should automatically and immediately be made available to the public, in transparent and easily accessible form (with due protection only for individual privacy)?

We have allowed bureaucratic secrecy to become far too prevalent. Information held secretly is power, and these bureaucrats have far too much power already.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Indeed – if you go back to April 2020, John Lee’s Spectator articles focused on this fundamental lacuna in terms of death registration.

I doubt at that point that we would have surmised that as being the precursor to a total fictionalisation of data about this ‘significant threat’.

smithey
4 years ago

Dominic Cummings in the news this morning claiming that Johnson resisted a second lockdown and said the only people of Covid are over 80. I think Johnson might actually be a sceptic, the problem is he is surrounded by lockdown zeolites.

HeresJohnny
HeresJohnny
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Smoke and mirrors

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

apart from the fact he has done all this and is the prime minister, I think it was against his instincts. He even joked that getting covid makes you live longer. He picked the wrong people to advise him. He should have sacked SAGE when they failed to produce a risk/benefit analysis of lockdown. Ultimately he should never have allowed them to throw away the pandemic plan. But he isn’t a leader – he is a follower

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

He should have hired http://www.hartgroup.org.

Petition against vaccine passports, ahem, er ‘Covid status certificates’ (ugghhh).

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957
 

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Oh dear! Another apologist for the fat narcissist with the mobile zip.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

it may be against his instincts, but as he has no spine he is too scared to stand up for himself against a bunch of bedwetters who have continually been wrong. it’s pathetic

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

and yet it’s being spun as “Boris is evil for wanting to kill your granny”

Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Johnson says all things to all men. Basic skill for any politician…

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Johnson likes power. I don’t care what his real opinions are, if he has any. I doubt he’d let them get in the way of a good power grab.

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

World King Johnson!

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Does anyone else see a parallel with the coercion going onto today and the coercion used to get the population to declare the oath to Henry VIII. Both were/are weak, fat, led by their genitals and had/have an overarching sense of entitlement. Symonds compares with Boleyn and I suspect is equally unliked by the majority of the population.
Also does anyone know of a ‘stand in the park’ near Plymouth or exeter?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Stop f.ing perpetuating the ‘Poor Boris’ myth. He is irresponsibly responsible – a pathetic excuse for a human being who has always shat corkscrews after swallowing nails.

steve_z
4 years ago

I’ve enrolled myself on a pilot project where I don’t do anything that wouldn’t have seemed reasonable in 2019.

smithey
4 years ago

Part of them problem we have is the dumbing down of education in our society, many people cannot think critically, also 20th century history is not a core subject in high school. I have said for many years that 20th century history should be a core subject like Maths, Science and English so that everyone has an understanding of how totalitarianism develops.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

If there’s one topic all school kids have been dosed with until it’s coming out of their ears, it’s the history of Nazi Germany. It’s pushed obsessively on history syllabuses, to the total neglect of most other tooics.
If today’s kidults can’t see the resemblance between the current government thuggery and Nazi thuggery, it isn’t because they are unaware of the latter.

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Maybe, but if is pushed down their throats at school and they can’t see what is happening today then there really is no hope. I think there is a certain element of denial as well – the attitude of it can never happen to me. These things always happen to people in other countries or the dim and distant past etc.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

We have obviously been fed that diet in Germany.
I am practically the only one of my mates who allows himself to see a parallel.
Those in charge go even a step further and denounce everyone seeing a parallel, advocating for honoring individual rights and the constitution or questioning just parts of their narrative as being a Nazi.
My conclusion is that nowadays very few people actually get critical thinking, meaning that they apply it when it counts and then stick to their values, even if it was taught to them in some form during their youth.
Those are the few who have researched and thereby become immune to mass psychology.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Good point, Annie. As you say – constant emphasis on the Holocaust has not been lacking.

What has changed is the nature of the curriculum towards gradgrindery – which started under Kenneth Baker. We are now seeing the result after the passage of many years of fifth-raters as Secretary of State. Look at the present one, ffs!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I’m sympathetic with the idea that understanding history is vital for people to have any real grasp of how the world works, and any perspective on things that happen around them.

The problem is that teaching history is also an opportunity for political and social indoctrination. Most history taught in our modern school system is indoctrination of that kind (I have four adult offspring, so I’ve seen it up close and personal).

This is a genuinely difficult issue to avoid. Good teachers can avoid it, but that’s a minority and teachers as a profession are heavily politically biased to the left.

That’s one reason imho why school history teaching was much better when it was drier and more factual, with fewer opportunities for ideology to be pushed. Though even then there will be politically motivated arguments about which facts to include

Better to give just a basic framework upon which adults can later build.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yep, I agree. They just get taught “bad man wanted to take over the world, good guys stopped him”

smithey
4 years ago

I am deeply disturbed by how infantilised the majority of the UK adult population is. Many people I know who have been successful and independent their whole lives are now totally beholden to state control. More worryingly they seem happy with this. I have over the past 15 months heard comments from grown adults such as – “Ooh I wonder if Boris will let us leave the house next week”, “I wonder if Boris will let us have Christmas”, “ooh I wonder if Boris will let me out to see my friends”, “ooh I wonder if Boris will let me go on holiday”. We are only a few small steps away from “ooh Boris is sending me on a mystical train ride to one of those new camps he has set up”.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

When the state is made responsible for people’s health, the result is exactly that kind of infantilisation. How could it not be so? Adults take responsibility for their own health, only seeking professional and other advice. Children, on the other hand, rely on authority figures in the form of their parents, or in the past a nanny to whom the parents delegated the day to day care.

Hence the “nanny state” that we were warned about so often in the past. We can take this aspect of the coronapanic as in part the ultimate consequence of the ignoring of those warnings over decades.

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, it would not surprise me if many people would want the government to send someone round to their house on an evening to tuck them into bed, apply their mask and promise to keep them safe from the big bad covid monster- I jest but I am sure you get where I am coming from.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Indeed.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Neoteny (maintaining child like mental states) is a feature of cattle and pets.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Telegraph piece: Everyone over 60 and most women were still wearing a mask’ – business as unusual on freedom day.

What a twat!

Mark
4 years ago

“JAMA journal retracts paper on masks for children” – JAMA Pediatrics has retracted the paper Lockdown Sceptics reported on recently claiming that children’s masks trap too-high concentrations of carbon dioxide. The report on Retraction Watch includes the response from the authors This might provide a good “case study” for someone with appropriate credibility to illustrate how dissenting papers are subjected to far higher standards of scrutiny than normal and withdrawn under political and social pressure. I note the author’s response to RetractionWatch is quoted as: “The main reasons for retractions – wrong data, wrong analysis, plagiarism – are neither present, nor proven by the editors or the commentators. And a brief look at some of their responses to criticisms (linked in the RW piece) suggest that some at least of the criticisms are argumentative and inappropriate. My impression is that if the same study and methods had produced results in line with the panic, the study would still be up and it would probably have received mass media attention and numerous citations. There’s plenty of material on this topic – the suppression of dissent within the scientific community during the coronapanic – for numerous social science papers and at least one good book. The bottom… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Dont even mention not toeing the line on climate homeopathy of CO2.

Mark
4 years ago

Yes climate alarmism is another of the areas where dissent was and is suppressed, and as a result all mainstream “knowledge” is inherently suspect.

Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s not a retraction though is it – the authors stand by their findings and only they can retract their conclusions- it’s just plain censorship. Call it what it is

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Baker

I assume it’s a retraction by the publication – as you say, the authors don’t seem to be admitting to anything (and probably quite rightly).

JayBee
4 years ago

From the BMJ article:
“Given that we are so lucky that SARS-CoV2 very rarely cause severe disease in children, the safest and cheapest way forward seems to be to tame SARS-CoV2 to a common childhood disease like other HCoV. This would happen by allowing SARS-CoV2 to infect children, who thereby likely become protected against severe disease well into late adulthood.”
Sensible, of course, but good luck convincing the now long Covid obsessed and totally freaked out mothers Karen of that.

Paul B
4 years ago

Not only ‘heath research is fraudulent’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9802747/Freedom-Day-cause-mad-spike-Covid-cases-scientists-fear.html

and in particular

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Lots of people on the tube without masks. So, *if* the current wave turns over and collapses (which looks plausible) will the doomsayers be finally committed the the dustbin of history[*]?

[*] Spoiler alert: do not bet on it.

PartyTime
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

Yes, the current wave has been falling sharply over the last few days and it looks like we might get a Texas situation where there are dire warnings from the “experts” about opening up, that don’t come true https://twitter.com/PishPishCat/status/1392107331824103430#m

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

MSM will forget their own dire warnings when the next hobgoblin to scare people with comes along.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

In M&S in Kidderminster, perhaps 2% maskless.
98% to go!

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago

Not been yet, but almost looking forward to visiting Tesco in Shepton Mallet, to see what gives. I’ve noticed over the last 12 months, that although most people wear masks, I have *never* seen anyone who is mask-less getting any stress whatsoever.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

Agreed.

Catee
4 years ago

I know I’m probably going mad but does anyone else see a parallel with the coercion going onto today and the coercion used to get the population to declare the oath to Henry VIII. Both were/are weak, fat, led by their genitals and had/have an overarching sense of entitlement. Symonds compares with Boleyn and I suspect is equally unliked by the majority of the population.
Also does anyone know of a ‘stand in the park’ near Plymouth or exeter?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Also a parallel with old Henry who wrote in praise of the Catholic Church (defender of the faith) against Luther and his protestant reformation, only to create the Church of England (Anglican) when it suited him.
The Bozzer wrote at least one article supporting the EU but like Henry before him, when it suited him to further his own ends, took the opportunity to became the leader of the Brexiters when he saw a way to becoming prime minister.
Like I’ve said before; an opportunist liar.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

“Freedom” day. And on that day they announce their profoundly immoral and wicked plan to push forward with the despicable vax passport scheme, not only to large venues, but now as a condition of employment, despite blatantly lying earlier this year that they wouldnt! They are LAUGHING at us, and loving every minute of it! Their evil and sickness knows no bounds. The mouthpiece puppets, aren’t running this sh*t show, it’s the slime further up the scale. It was always planned this way. But we can fight back! Stop believing we’re ineffective because we’re the minority. We’re NOT! We don’t need majority, just enough to tip the balance. What we need is brains, and a plan! Stay positive, get thinking, get connecting. Do everything you can to resist. Don’t be pulled into thinking that all is lost, it’s NOT! This is what they want you to believe. Everything is just words, being turned into swords at the moment, to try and harm us, and keep us in a low energy field of despair. They can’t touch if you don’t let them! Stay positive, proactive, and in the now moment as much as possible.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Situation as it stands.
Went into Kidderminster this morning and went into several high street stores, a pub and garage (1st MOT) and I would estimate that 95% of people were wearing masks, some even outside in 28° heat.
Now this percentage might fall to around 80% in the coming weeks.
The “infection” rates ,deaths,hospital admissions will not “sky rocket” as predicted by the government, Sage and the other manipulative liars.
By the end of August or so, the “numbers” will continue to fall, which they would have, anyway.
The government, Sage, etc will say: ” Because 80 plus percent of the population were responsible, caring and followed the our advice, dispite the BAD, IRRESPONSIBLE, NASTY,EVIL people (us maskless sceptics), we have defeated Covid.

Mark
4 years ago

FRENCH MAD LADS ARE BURNING DOWN “VACCINE” CENTERS

Even Americans forced to give respect to the French dissidents…

“The salt must flow”

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

The House of Commons Speaker rules out vaccine passports for entry into the Commons as it would be “outrageous”. One rule for them, one rule for us…

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/20/boris-johnson-lockdown-end-news-vaccine-passports-cummings-tax/#comments