Lancet Study Shows Real World Patients Are up to 400% More Likely to Suffer Adverse Events Than Drug Trials Show

Dr Sebastian Rushworth has written today about the serious problem of the underestimation of side-effects in drug trials, which he says should “shake the very foundations of evidence based medicine”.

His article reports on the results of a study recently published in the Lancet Healthy Longevity, funded by the UK Medical Research Council and the Wellcome Trust, which seeks to establish the extent to which drug trials underestimate side-effects by comparing trial data to real world data. The study focuses in particular on blood pressure drugs known as RAAS blockers, which Dr Rushworth explains were chosen because of the number of trials that have been done by different companies. There is no reason the results should not apply equally to other drugs, he says, including Covid vaccines (for which there have been an unprecedented number of adverse event reports despite the trials showing them to be safe).

The results are shocking. The difference was not marginal but out by a factor of three or four.

The real world patients were between 300% and 400% more likely to experience a serious event than the participants in the trials! That is in spite of the fact that the trials, as mentioned above, were using a broader definition of what constituted a serious event. If the trials were representative of reality, then they should have a higher rate of events than is seen in the real world data. Instead they have a rate that is several times lower!

The difference was just as large in trials specifically involving older people, so age differences can’t be the full explanation, he says (though he allows part of it may be that participants in the trials of older people may be healthier and younger than real world patients).

His main explanation, however, is darker. Are the drug companies simply under-reporting adverse events, both in the drug and placebo treatment groups?

The easiest solution, if you want to avoid finding nasty side effects, is to not report them, regardless of which treatment group the participant is in. That will cut down on total adverse events in both groups, which will make any difference between the groups that does exist smaller in absolute terms, and also less likely to reach the level of statistical significance. Voila – the treatment group and the placebo group end up having similar rates of side effects, and the drug company can conclude that the drug is completely safe.

Is that what’s happened here? Are the pharmaceutical companies hiding adverse events? Well, it’s very strange that the real world data shows a rate of serious adverse events that is several times higher than is found in the trials. It’s hard to see how that massive difference could be explained in any other way.

This is a huge problem, he argues, which calls into question the reliability of drug trials for telling us how safe drugs really are.

If the drug trials and the real world data show such wildly different rates of adverse events, then it really begs the question how much we can trust the trials at all. It would be perfectly reasonable in this situation to say that all “evidence” produced by pharmaceutical companies is so suspect that it should be dismissed out of hand, and that only independently funded trials should be used as a basis for medical treatment decisions.

Combined with the routine exclusion of high risk groups from trials, who are both more likely to suffer adverse effects and less likely to get the full benefit, we need to ask how much we really know about the risks and benefits of the drugs and vaccines that we give to people every day.

But what alternative is there, asks Dr Rushworth, when without drugs companies funding trials far fewer would be done at all?

Worth reading in full.

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imp66
imp66
4 years ago

Who’d ‘ve thunked it! Big Pharma strikes again! Never trust these manipulators, ever!

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  imp66

Take as few drugs as possible. Never take drugs until all non drug options have been tried.
My aunt is still hooked on HRT at 70, I experienced early menopause with some awful symptoms but stuck with natural remedies and at 50 I’m out the other side and drug free.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

You need to understand the difference between anecdote, coincidence and evidence. And the propter hoc fallacy

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

The same as my sister. She’s hooked on it too. Every time she comes off it she feels so ill she resumes taking it.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  imp66

We went to a massive anti lockdown demo in London ignored by the evil complicit Daily Telegraph. THIS IS THE THE MEDIA IS COMPLICIT
TRY THIS  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0N_VzOVkXs
 

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Susan
4 years ago

Well, I’ll be! The vaccine trial “studies” excluded the old, the sick, the pregnant, the immuno-compromised….. yes?

snoozle
snoozle
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

I’m not excusing the behaviour of big pharma—or research in general which has a strong bias towards getting results to publish. But, some of this should be done in the early stage trials and that’s one of the reasons that full clinical approval takes a long time. I mean, you don’t want pregnant women to be in your first trial group. You should be reasonably sure that the vaccine is safe for the completely healthy and non-pregnant before you risk giving it to the pregnant, elderly, and infirm.
That said, you should get to the stage where you are including these people in your trials before you roll out the vaccine program to cover them in the real world.
As far as I can tell, the safety trial for the COVID-19 vaccine’s safety for pregnant women, e.g., was done en mass in the real world with a lack of informed consent. I don’t recall seeing specific controlled trials with pregnant women. This seems to be courageous if you are kind hearted, or reckless if you aren’t.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  snoozle

Most of the vaccine rollout has been a giant safety trial. Long term safety not established and cannot be now as control group is compromised. I’ve had autoimmune issues – trials not done on people like that, and honestly what data could I trust regarding the likely effect of the vaccine on me?

amanuensis
4 years ago

And side-effect reporting systems (eg, Yellow-Card) find even lower side effect rates. This is particularly true of side-effects that aren’t on the side-effects list.

The normal route is that after successful clinical trials drugs/treatments are given only to those would would obtain most benefit, and the side-effect/complication rate monitored. After a good few years’ worth of monitoring there’s usually enough information to support a wider roll-out of the drug/treatment.

To allow a pharma company to shorten the clinical trials (so that medium- and longer-term complications don’t have time to emerge) is reckless. To issue to the general population without getting longer term data is stupid. To issue at that early stage to those that won’t benefit personally (‘herd immunity’) is tragic. To unblind the clinical trials so that they won’t eventually provide medium- and long-term data on complication rates is criminal.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

if they’re admitting 300-400% then it’s likely to be far worse.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Not necessarily if this study stands up. Countering the narrative with unevidenced exaggerations isn’t a good idea.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

even when the narrative is entirely unevidenced exaggerations?
Anyway, I said likely to be, obviously I have no proof of such but it’s something worth discussing, no?

steve_z
4 years ago

lol

looks like teachers have stopped faking their +ve results

term almost over

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Another wild grudge generalization helping 77th Brigade.

mikec
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Unfortunately you’re wrong, my family have continued working in education throughout the scamdemic, the same can’t be said for a significant number of their (younger) colleagues. You have to be incredibly ‘unlucky’ to be pinged last week and then again this weekend, as has happened? What happened to isolation? Some staff haven’t been in work for weeks, no problem if like them you’re on full sick pay.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

That’s unfounded twaddle. Most teachers are furious when they have to isolate. My son was almost the only member of science staff in his school last week as one staff members son tested + after returning from abroad. None of the staff were happy about it and got back in asap.

RickH
4 years ago

“… only independently funded trials should be used as a basis for medical treatment decisions.”

This may be the only solution. But ‘independent’ means also not under the influence of government and ‘deep state’. The MHRA is a good example of compromised ‘independence’.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH
Encierro
4 years ago

I just read a post on another forum which stated that these vaccines took 20 years to develop. The forum member even added a link to that piece of incredible news. Obviously from a US MSM newspaper. Maybe I should link to this and see what they say about this

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milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

So, they’ve been developing a vaccine over 20 years for a novel virus that only appeared 18 months ago? How clever of them!

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Yes – they must have modelled this decades ago! That Ferguson, eh, must be such a clever chap.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Yes they have. This was not a novel virus so the emergency use granted for these vaccines was a big scam!

cynical seamus
cynical seamus
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

This report, from Paul Craig Roberts, is damning if the evidence is true. If you can spare the time and the dry presentation, the evidence of Dr David Martin to Reiner Fuellmich taken from patent applications, does indeed suggest that a) this was a planned ‘pandemic’, b) the loquacious Peter Daczac seems to be in the frame for his “investors will flock” comment and c) our old friend Tony Fauci is seriously implicated as well, not least for patenting a vaccine before the modified virus patent had been submitted. Ooops!

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  cynical seamus

Yes, I saw that. There is a good transcription here:
https://denisbider.blogspot.com/2021/07/dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich.html

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

That may be based on the controversial findings of Dr David Martin. Through his investigation of patents, he claims to have found links with CDC, Fauci etc going back this far.

LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

The technology and methodology might have taken twenty years to develop, but in that time, exactly how many vaccines for general distribution have been produced??

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

I remember reading something similar last November when Prof Sarah Gilbert who was instrumental in developing the AstraZeneca ChAdOx1, admitted they already had a vaccine for many years with plans to treat ‘disease x’ – an unknown disease – and just tweaked it to suit for coronavirus. I’m a bit hazy about it but the interview was about how the vaccines had been made so quickly and she wanted to reassure the public they weren’t new and had been fully tested!
It reminded me of Blue Peter and the ‘something we prepared earlier’.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

The problem was the spike protein is a clotting agent, that’s the bit they switched IN and it’s killed thousands.

Burlington
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

https://biblescienceforum.com/2021/07/17/a-manufactured-illusion-dr-david-martin-with-dr-reiner-fuellmich/

Patents for both the vaccines and the ‘virus’ were patented decades ago.

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

At the risk of appearing to be a picky swot I think that

“The real world patients were between 300% and 400% more likely to experience a serious event than the participants in the trials! ”

means that the results are out by a factor of 4 or 5, not by 3 or 4.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

We went to a massive anti lockdown demo in London ignored by the evil complicit Daily Telegraph. THIS IS THE EVIL THE MEDIA IS COMPLICIT
TRY THIS  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0N_VzOVkXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCI0NMgVfPk&t=1247s 

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

Home Schooling – Ex-Primary School Teacher on Resistance GB YouTube Channel: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5oS2ejye0
https://www.hopesussex.co.uk/our-mission

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

We went to a massive anti lockdown demo in London ignored by the evil complicit
Daily Telegraph. THIS IS THE THE MEDIA IS COMPLICIT
TRY THIS  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0N_VzOVkXs
 

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

Home Schooling – Ex-Primary School Teacher on Resistance GB YouTube Channel: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5oS2ejye0
https://www.hopesussex.co.uk/our-mission

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

‘Are the drug companies simply under-reporting adverse events … ?’
Why on earth would these companies making literally Billions from these drugs play down their side effects?
I’m baffled.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

I think I am right in saying that Pfizer has been fined by the US Government more than any other company for lying ( note, that’s not the word used, but its the reality).
Are we surprised?

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

Society is still clinging to the germ theory of disease which predates the oiligarchs control of oil based drugs and medical education so what hope for a wake up?

Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
4 years ago

As tweeted in response read ‘The Illusion of Evidence-based Medicine’ by Jureidini and McHenry – recently published by Wakefield Press – brilliant analysis of pharma control over drug trials, information, labs, science journals etc. Highly documented and informative. It details six litigated cases showing how data is skewed as well as exposing the entire trail of corruption and the larger picture. It’s scary and dire. Medicine is no longer independent nor particularly efficacious.

Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
4 years ago

Jabbed people are the ‘live’ trial for this medical treatment still under Emergency Use. We need a control group who aren’t taking this to make the trial legal. Or it’s not a trial

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Zoomer@14

I’ll volunteer to never ever have it

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Zoomer@14

Here is a link to a control group. Note I cannot verify this company, I have no idea if it is bona fide.

https://www.vaxcontrolgroup.com/about.html

AngloWelshDragon
4 years ago

I got quite a lot of grief on here for having the vaccine my reasoning being I’m 56, have a congenital heart valve issue and, most importantly, wanted to help achieve herd immunity before pressure was pit on the young, including our 26 year old son and his 23 year old wife to have the jab (that went well!) I thought you might be interested, in the light of this article, to know my experiences. I suffer from hyperthyroidism due to Graves’ disease, an autoimmune disease. My maternal grandmother suffered from myasthenia Gravis and pernicious anaemia- also autoimmune diseases. My hyperthyroidism has been in remission two years and I was unmedicated though supposed to see the consultant every 6 months (not seen her since January 20!) I had the first jab with no ill effects except a sore arm but two weeks later I noticed I’m my resting heart rate was creeping up. I developed palpitations at night and started getting breathless. I assumed it was because I was unfit having just had my leg out of the cast it had been in for 6 months following an accident. Had the second jab and after two weeks all symptoms became… Read more »

brachiopod
4 years ago

So sorry to hear of your frightening health issues.

I do wonder how many in similar positions to you would have decided to have the vaccine for all the positive reasons you note if there hadn’t been a massive effort on the part of Government to spread the lie that there was no effective treatment if you caught the virus, and to hide the words urging caution being spoken by people who, before 2020, we knew were the go to experts in vaccinology and epidemiology and public health?

Bella Donna
4 years ago

If you think of your immune system as a computer, it has been rebooted by taking this ‘vaxxine’ and has forgotten all its previous immune memories. I’m afraid you have left your body open to all the diseases it had originally conquered.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Scary thought but entirely plausible.

I wemt hyperthyroid a few years back so I sympathise. Was on carbimazole for a long time, then my thyroid started “sputtering” and I was getting alternating symptoms of high and low. Came off the drugs mostly OK but still with the occasional high which is self-limiting. Oh well if it damages my heart and kills me I won’t be missing much.

Would be interesting to know if the “vaccines” affect other autoimmune diseases

enlighteneduk
4 years ago

My friend’s husband is also my small animal veterinary surgeon. The surgery had to close for deep cleaning after 6 members of staff tested positive for Covid-19 and had symptoms, one of them quite ill. All had been vaccinated, two already double vaxxed. One of the double jabbed was the one most ill. My friend’s husband, unvaccinated, and not having the jab, is still negative having worked with the others all through. Says it all.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  enlighteneduk

I could laugh out loud but its tragic really! The faith these people have put in this evil government and their evil advisors could cost them their lives!

We have innate immune systems and they have been keeping us alive. By literally turning them off to take a jab for a disease no worse than influenza is too stupid for words.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Burlington

I’ve seen it and a few others too. If only more people would turn off the TV and research online they could learn a lot!

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  mummyfunk

LOL! No its not funny I know but FGS if people swallow this rubbish then they can damn well take what is coming to them!

brachiopod
4 years ago

Dr Malcolm Kendrick has written about the fake justification of the expense of ‘bringing novel drugs to market’, the vast majority of the money being spent on ‘marketing’ a.k.a. bribing doctors and licensing authorities, ghost writers to puff the drugs in medical journal, bunging said journals ‘advertising money’ to ensure the right spin on their drugs, paying large numbers of lawyers to defend their illegal behaviour when things have gone wrong etc etc, and a small minority on research trials etc.
Drug companies don’t create novel drugs, they just finance the development of the ones that will generate the most money. People create novel drugs as a result of education leading to intellectual curiosity and solution finding, this should take place without the pressures of finance, ideally in institutions outwith political control driven only by human (and animal and plant) needs.