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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“back in restrictions in 5 weeks”

Ooh, that’s 3 more weeks than we had last summer (it’s grim ewp Narth [whenever I see “oop for t’ coop”, I think “what’s this word ewp (how we would pronounce oop, coop etc.)]). Not that restrictions are ending mind.

“Drugs and vaccinations are the way out of this”. Drugs ignored, everyone had the opportunity to be “vaccinated”, still the shambles continues. They really are lying crooks aren’t they?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Neighbours ‘pinged’ through walls”.

Blimey, are there no limits to what this bug can do? No smart phone for me…

Also note “bin collections halted in ‘pingdemic’ “. Didn’t something similar happen in 1979? I wonder how that ended?

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Generally speaking, it only matters if you’ve been daft enough to download the NHS app.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“All official and unofficial Covid symptoms”.

Wasn’t actual bedwetting one of them? I know, I shouldn’t laugh (and have on occasions soiled myself 🙂 ), but still…

Quebec9804
Quebec9804
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I heard Eye rolling 🙄 is another. Caused by constant BS being fed.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

These days when I laugh so maniacally at what’s going on, I often wonder if my trousers will ever dry!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Academy of Medical Sciences recommends mass testing for flu”.

Looks like this shambles won’t be ending any time soon doesn’t it. And (I make no bones about it) thank you Toby et al. I think we’ll be needing LS for a while…

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’m not being tested for flu or anything else. I’ve never had flu!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I have had bad ‘flu. And I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Nor bad Covid. I have no illusions about what ‘common’ viruses can do at their worst.

But that’s not the point

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Money, money, money…..

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Looks like some of the research on Ivermectin was fraudulent.

Let’s hope the new trials show positive results

https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

“Funded by the Australian state”

Hmm. And what about the use of it in India – are the obvious conclusions still valid?

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Dr Tess Lawrie and the Bird Group skilfully defend – and defeat – challenges against their meta analysis. They have also spoken out against the proposed lop-sided trials beforehand in order to avoid misleading results.
They have enough peer-reviewed evidence for ivermectin to establish it as an effective treatment. If it were the case that some fraudulent research is added to that, it does not undermine what has been established in any way whatsoever.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

See my comment here. Removing the fraudulent study changes the conclusion of Lawrie’s metanalysis.

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Thanks. However, even if there is a fraudulent study behind the meta analysis, the reference you gave only suggests that ivermectin is not as effective as reported. I await hearing a reply from Bird Group and/or FLCCC. A motive behind fraud is hard to establish as ivermectin is cheap and non-proprietary. A motive behind fraud behind the provision of ‘vaccines’ would be very clear to establish – as indeed is the ‘vaccines’ lack of effectiveness. A further point, as expressed by McCullough and others, is that the current protocol is to stay at home with no treatment at all until the symptoms are so bad that hospitalisation is necessary. By this time, covid is so advanced that fatality is far more likely. The use of GP’s experience in the field to find treatments that work for their patients is something that governing bodies have clamped down on (now there is something to investigate). Ivermectin and other medications have been discovered to be beneficial by doctors who are prepared to risk their licence in order to benefit their patients. These medications have often worked in combination, which is something difficult to assess in trials. And the longer trials take, the more… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

“ only suggests that ivermectin is not as effective as reported” I think this is a bit of an understatement. Here is the relevant text. However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There’s no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide. Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely. Like you, I look forward to hearing a response from the Bird group. No idea what the motive is for fraud but the evidence is pretty damning. I didn’t know about GPs being clamped down upon. Do you have a reference? The trouble about the argument “it does no harm so why not give it a try” is that people will start using it instead of solutions that are known to work. There is also a danger that there will be… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

proper large-scale RCTs (which is what the vaccines had to do)”

Indeed, trials that are yet to finish…

Why do you think there have been no trials of alternative drugs like this that pleased rich world governments, in all the long time since this deadly pandemic started? Drugs that were already available, cheap and with known safety data? In the meantime, umpteen vaccines have been developed using new technology to combat a type of virus that had never had a vaccine developed successfully for it before, trialled and brought to market?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

 .. trials that are yet to finish…”

No. Trials which have, by definition, been aborted.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Phase 3 included RCTs which were successfully completed. The fact that phase 3 also includes longer term observation doesn’t change that. But we were talking about ivermectin not vaccines. I think we have been round the subject of vaccines enough times.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The Phase 3 trials are ongoing – the earliest finishes in January, 2023.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

That’s true – that is why I said they **included** RCTs.

MikeAustin
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“The trouble about the argument “it does no harm so why not give it a try” is that people will start using it instead of solutions that are known to work.”

What solutions are known to work? I have more of an issue with “it might do no harm so let’s give an experimental, untested intervention a try on the whole population.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Well put. There is something inherently dodgy about the lack of proper trialing of the snake-oil.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Let’s not start the vaccine debate again …..!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

 the benefit goes from 62% to 52%”

A lot better than the ARR of 1% for the leaky vaccines. And a lot cheaper. And a lot more amenable to proper testing – that is so transparently resisted by the big money and politics.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Let’s get ARR straight for once. You know a lot of this but it will do no harm to go back to basics. It stands for absolute risk reduction. It is not a ratio. It is the difference between the risk if you are not vaccinated and the risk if you are vaccinated. When it is quoted for a trial that is the risk of getting the condition (in this case) if you were part of the trial: i.e. the risk under those conditions over that time period. If the conditions and/or timescale are substantially different from the trial then the trial ARR figure is irrelevant. To illustrate this I will do a very crude estimate of how the ARR would work out under current conditions. You can use the RRR (relative risk reduction) to do this. The first question is the timescale. We are comparing with and without vaccine. We don’t know the protection period of any of the vaccines but one year seems like a reasonable guess. At the moment the UK is getting about 50,000 cases a day. So the risk on infection each day is something of the order of 50,000/70,000,000 which is 0.0007 i.e. about… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Just to be clear – the 52% is the RRR (as compared to 95% for Pfizer) I leave it to you to calculate the ARR for various levels of absolute risk.

The real lesson from all this is how fragile these metanalyses are. There are just too few low quality studies. One study turns out to be a fraud and add another recent study and the effect disappears totally. Different studies come to different conclusions.

AfterAll
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The 52% is for treatment, for which Pfizer has never claimed any beneficial effect at all. The RRR for ivermectin as a prophylactic, which is the appropriate comparison with the clot shots, actually increases from 86% to 87% in Lawrie’s meta-analysis when the problematic paper is removed.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Thanks for this and for having the courage to post a link to it here. It is important to read the whole article because it points out that removing this much cited study changes the conclusions of Lawrie and co’s metaanalysis. It will be interesting to see Lawrie’s response but this problem is not covered by her recent open letter to the Lancet defending her metastudy.

The article is also fascinating in what it shows about the failure of peer review. (The author was one of the peer reviewers who approved the study originally.)

None of this means Ivermectin doesn’t work – either as a prophylactic or as treatment – it just means the case is not proven. We really need those proper large-scale studies and, as you say, let’s hope they show that Ivermectin works.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I suspect Ivermectin will be shown to work whenever TPTB decide they want this madness to end. My guess – never.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Why all the disapprovals? I can’t see anything remotely offensive about the comment and the article has to be of interest to anyone who is interested in the effectiveness of ivermectin.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Maybe it’s because people believe you to be a shill?

After all, you’re here down-playing Ivermectin when there is stacks or real-world evidence (including the testimony of dozens of doctors) concerning its effectiveness.

You also promote the use of experimental jabs (which are all still in their phase 3 trials, despite your claims to the contrary) even though they have only have an ARR of between 1%-1.5% (according to the manufacturers’ own data).

According to the manufacturers, the jabs do not provide immunity and merely mitigate the effects of the virus.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

But it wasn’t my comment!

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

You overstate the ARR of the Pfizer jab. If you look at the RCT details and do the calculation it is about 0.74%. The risk of getting Covid for the non-vaccinated was 0.78% the risk for the vaccinated was 0.04% – so the difference was 0.74%. So what? In my book reducing the risk of getting a nasty disease from 1 in a 100 to 1 in a 1000 is a significant gain.

Over the last year in the UK there have been about 5 million cases. So the risk of getting infected for a random person was just under 10%. If they had all taken the Pfizer jab before it kicked off then, assuming the RRR still applied (and there is no reason for it not to) then there would have been 5% of that figure i.e. the risk would have been 2% and the ARR would have been 8%.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“PM in Orwellian turn”.

Covid 1984?

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Van Halen did a better version

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yeah, it’s as if he’s been a champion for freedom over the last 16 months.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Manual Chevron’s threat effective”.
I fear the worst for GB. The best hope is that with only 6.7m adults (and falling) refusing so far, they won’t bother. From whence cometh my help?

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

he that keepeth thee will not slumber.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Thank you for that.

“All manner of things shall be well”. (I just hope that extends to Norwich…). So important to hold on to hope in these times.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s a long game, Hugh.

I already wrote to my MP telling her I will go to jail before complying with any vaccine mandates and fully intend on keeping my word.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Me too. This is one ditch, unlike Bozo, for which I am prepared to die in.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Witch doctator Chris Whitty says vaccines don’t work, only mediaeval superstition cures Covid and ignore the damage done by lockdown.

Chris Whitty’s job should be abolished

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

And modern superstition, those masks are magic apparently…

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And like all magic, they don’t work.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

They only “work” on the gullible.

And like magic, the showy bit is to hide the sleight of hand.

Susan
4 years ago

The Dr. Bryan Ardis interview on the Pete Santilli show is worth listening in full.

Richy_m_99
4 years ago

I could think of a few other medieval practices that would be suitable for Whitty. Hanging, drawing and quartering for example.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

On the contrary, a herd of elephants, gorged on beans, eggs and sprouts, should take turns farting in his face.

Richy_m_99
4 years ago

Nah. Just detach hus head and use it as a pachederm sized butt plug. Far less mess and smell.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

That would be over quickly. The farting between now and the end of time would be eternal and his face must be eternally farted in.

JayBee
4 years ago

Intelligent people who didn’t question Lockdowns from the start became doubtful once the first goalpost change was announced, from ‘3 weeks to save the NHS’ to ‘R under 1’.
Anyone reasonable knew that this was a hoax when the mask mandates were introduced. At that point, the supremacy of individual rights, reason the reputation of and any trust in the medical profession completely evaporated for them.
Sadly, only a tiny minority of people was and is still intelligent and/or reasonable.
‘Majority is the nonsense. Reason has only ever been with the few.’
Friedrich Schiller

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

The universal acceptance of masks was disturbing. If they were needed, there would have been countless supermarket workers dropping like flies before they were made mandatory.

J4mes
4 years ago

It’s as if the Gollum has become the de facto ruler of the UK. I wonder, when we’re talking about stats, how many people would enjoy wringing his turkey neck?

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Why wring his neck when you can have elephants fart continuously in his face?

Rogerborg
4 years ago

At this point it’s looking more likely that Whitty will remove Johnson than the other way around.

jsampson45
jsampson45
4 years ago

Where does he say vaccines don’t work?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  jsampson45

It’s implied by saying we need restrictions again

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  jsampson45

If restrictions are required after vaccines have been administered then the vaccines don’t work.

Annie
4 years ago

A taste of the current Australian mindset:

In the early days of the pandemic, footage emerged from China of military sealing shut the apartment doors of civilians infected with the virus, trapping them inside.
That seemed wild at the time, utterly totalitarian and inhumane. Now? It’s far less shocking.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/armed-patrols-complacency-and-covid-19-has-australia-bungled-the-pandemic-20210715-p589zo.html

We are often told that the first British settlers in Australia were exported criminals. It was evidently true. Their descendants have bred true to the originals.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I always find it amazing how there are worse places than the UK. I wonder if Belarus will take refugees from this shambles…

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

hard left paper promoting hard left policies. what a shocker.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

We are often told that the first British settlers in Australia were exported criminals. It was evidently true. Their descendants have bred true to the originals.

Seems there must have been a lot of prison guards exported with them…

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

Is anyone else feeling that we have reached a tipping point in the last few days?

If so, what should we hope happens next?

We can see compulsory vaccination and vaccine certification coming in many countries and many other totalitarian measures being put forward.

We are also seeing the early stages of civil unrest.

Although I fear that unrest may be an expected development welcomed by those pushing the globalist agenda, I do not see what else could turn the tide.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

It’s definitely got a feel about it… I wonder just what it will take to push it over the edge

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

mixed feelings

1 – in the UK things seem to be getting better

2 – France has gone mental – unvaxxed not to be allowed in shops etc – completely insane

I have no idea what the next act of this ridiculous play is. This winter maybe the vaccines a) prove their worth b) are shown to be useless c) make things worse. Or maybe covid disappears irrespective of vaccines. Maybe the government carries on this charade but switches to flu. I have no idea

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

2- Germany is planning to do the very same, see Ärztekammerpraesident yesterday. 1- The hope is that they STAY more hands off here, not least because of the BAME communities scepticism and the allegations that would arise from there. Also, the second religion behind the NHS is the pub, that might save such establishments from the assault here. The one hope we can have, but obviously shouldn’t in the first place, is the Valneva vaccine arriving in time, being efficient in the trials (not that I care about that in practice), therefore acceptable for the passport and continuing to be safe long term, of course. We can also hope that the protests spread and grow, but I doubt it. We need the vaccinated for that but too few vaccinated are yet concerned about what this could mean for them down the road, the coercion into future shots etc.. They all seem to think that that’s it- yes, they are that naive. Many of them are also revelling in their self-righteousness and of the group they chose to belong to now and enjoy the discrimination of people who think otherwise, of people who they think irrationally behave unpatriotic ally or even… Read more »

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

When will it sink in that there is no such thing as “fully vaccinated”, there will always be just one more booster

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

No. We’ve said this many, many, many times, and at no point has there been a national awakening.

The majority of the populace have been terrorised or bribed into compliance, and they are now so invested in the scamdemic that they’ll never be able to admit to having been wrong.

Ongoing compliance is the only way they can avoid the cognitive dissonance. They’d rather burn witches than admit they don’t exist.

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Speaking to a friend in the gym this morning
She has had health issues
Had a positive covid test last year
Has been feeling unwell since being jabbed a few months ago and believes that this is vaccine induced
Had a positive PCR test two weeks ago
Experienced no new symptoms at all

She will be seeking further medical help for her existing issues but still believes in the vaccination programme.

What would it take to convince her to reconsider her views?

Paul B
4 years ago

I scanned the mirror comments and reminded myself quickly why I don’t read that rag.

I am however going to book the rest of my leave before the end of September…

bagpusskitty
4 years ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y792MBqICVPz/
Former WHO whistleblower interviewed about the people really behind what’s going on.

Monro
4 years ago

The Chief Medical Officer has sounded the alarm over a “scary growth” in hospitalisations that could leave the NHS in “trouble again, surprisingly fast”

The Chief Medical Officer, amongst others, is guilty of extreme professional negligence and must, in due course, be held accountable

No matter how the precautionary principle evolves, the value of acting in a precautionary manner is obvious to those in public health. It is a form of primary prevention, avoiding problems by not engaging in activities until it is reasonably certain that they will not produce harm.

The core maxim of the precautionary principle is that an action should not be taken when there is scientific uncertainty about its potential impact. We in public health must recognize that the precautionary principle applies to our own actions, that when a public health action is proposed, the burden of proof—to ensure that all risks and consequences are taken into account—rests on us just as surely as it rests on others.’

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1446778/

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Sack the CMO!

Milos
4 years ago

Wau, the asshole is patronizing the person serving them about vaccination.
How about this: governments gave/invested huge amounts of money to pharmaceutical companies for rapid research and production of c19 vaccines (which are still shitty and dangerous). Then they also bought the vaccines and offered them for “free” to citizens. So, how about pro-vaccine people pay for their own vaccines (not just the price of the vaccine but huge amount of taxpayer money that went into rapid research and production and distribution). Maybe then they will think differently.
Since this didn’t happen and they got their vaccines for “free”, the people who choose not to get vaccinated should receive compensation for this taxpayer money that went into vaccines. Furthermore they should receive reparation for being demonized by government, media and some private business and people in general, for not taking the vaccine.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/london-firefighter-43-left-paralysed-20946027

He should tip this Jab Victim…

If you’re in good health Skip the Jab.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

Spit in his quinoa and tofu salad, see how effective his “vaccine” is against that.

steve_w
4 years ago

A new report from the Academy of Medical Sciences recommends that people be tested for flu in the same way as they are for COVID-19 according to the Times.”

god save us! Even if covid goes they will carry this nonsense on. They know flu is never going away.

Mark
4 years ago

“Chris Whitty warns U.K. could be plunged back into restrictions in just five weeks” – The Chief Medical Officer has sounded the alarm over a “scary growth” in hospitalisations that could leave the NHS in “trouble again, surprisingly fast”, the Mirror says Funny how rarely the mainstream media types point out that if the NHS were really to be threatened by a rise in covid cases in winter, then that can only be because the government has failed to spend enough on emergency preparations in terms of NHS capacity. I suppose to some extent such complaints as there are, are routinely ignored because the media have cried wolf for decades on collectivist heath spending. Where are the well ventilated regional specialist isolation hospitals they could have put up and staffed for covid patients in the time since this nonsense began, and with fractions of the money they’ve blown on hammering our economy and society? Not saying this would be a rational or sensible policy, because I’m not one who believes that healthcare being very busy for a while is some kind of existential crisis, but on their own terms if this is an emergency justifying shutting down basic liberty and large sections… Read more »

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Very little of this makes sense from a health perspective! From the ridiculously inaccurate PCR test, to labelling people as ‘cases’ when they receive a positive test result in the absence of symptoms, to government plans that the whole population be jabbed (even the age cohorts that are not at risk) and, of course, the suppression of alternative interventions (which are far safer than the experimental jabs), as well as the mask mandate.
It’s irrational from start to finish.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Don’t forget not testing for antibodies prior to jabbing.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

It is, of course. I’m just pointing out yet another glaring internal inconsistency.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s such an obvious question. Why are MPs also not asking this question? It seems so obvious that to miss it, you’d think someone would have to incredibly dense or deliberately avoiding the question for evil purposes, or have gone stark, staring bonkers. The “incredibly dense” option doesn’t seem plausible to me, so it’s one of the other options, neither of which bode well.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’d guess Tory MPs are conditioned against it, due to the aforementioned decades of cynical wolf-crying about NHS spending from the left (which includes almost all the mainstream media).

But they need to grasp the point that if this is a supposed emergency so serious as to justify the kind of totalitarianism they have supported (it isn’t, but that’s their position), then this isn’t a matter of the usual special pleading nonsense, but a “sensible” (again, adopting their absurd position for the sake of the argument) response. Indeed, a necessary one.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I think we need to stop making excuses for either the government or MPs.

If there is one thing politicians are is cynical. I don’t believe for one minute they don’t realise the scale of the scam that is taking place.

They are just looking after themselves, their political careers and in the process convincing themselves there isn’t much they can do anyway.

No more excuses for these people.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I would view that as explaining rather than excusing.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes indeed. I would expect it to have been raised more by the sceptic MPs, and by the Opposition. Perhaps it has and I’ve missed it. TBH I try and avoid news of proceedings in Parliament as I find it depressing and maddening.

Emmerich
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’ve thought for a while now that if the NHS being under strain in an emergency is such a problem that society must shut down and cease to exist in order to preserve it, then perhaps it’s the NHS that’s the problem

JayBee
4 years ago

The ‘smooth’ border crossing reports to and from France remind me of my journey’s from West Germany to Berlin in the 80s.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

In my area businesses are shutting because of staff shortages. Guess what’s causing the shortages… It might be something to do with a certain NHS App and the general response to Covid.

This is the micro-effect of the Covid response. On the macro-scale, western civilisation is under attack (externally and internally) and has been largely defeated, without a shot being fired.

Those who value liberty, freedom and real democracy (not the ‘once in 5 years vote’ version) need to put aside their differences and put a stop to this on-going catastrophe.

The 19th of July, outside Parliament, might be a good start.

Trabant
4 years ago

There was a University Bound / Government Sponsored “Prognosticator”being gently interviewed by Evan Davies on Radio 4 last night. He was saying ” Yeah so we have graphs and predictive models for deaths, graphs and models for hospitalisations, graphs and models for cases. You’d think someone could have done one for Track and Trace Isolation”
( Prognosticator ) – “Oh yeah we could but we haven’t bothered to publish them ”
( Evan ) – ” There’s a high percentage of people off and it’s affecting business and society badly ”
( Prognosticator ) – ” Oh yeah we predicted that up to EIGHTY PERCENT of people could be off work at one stage ”
FFS !

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

I’m thinking of becoming a recluse. “People” leave you alone then.
Official: “Who lives in that house with overgrown garden?”
Neighbour: “Oh, it’s such and such. She’s a recluse. Never comes to the door or goes out. ”
Official: “Oh, ok then.” Walks away…

Trabant
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I’m starting to think along the same lines too.
I have many many books and space to excercise

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
  • Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?” – New numbers presented by the Israeli Health Ministry suggests that nearly 40% of Covid cases in the current wave were in people who had received the vaccination whereas just 1% of them had the infection previously, the Arutz Sheva 7 reports

Using the way the Government measures COVID jab effectiveness catching COVID is 4000% more effective at lowering reinfection risk than the jabs.

JayBee
4 years ago

Imagine what could have been done with the money wasted on testing, vaccines and furlough: the NHS would be world class and never in danger of being overwhelmed ever.
Imagine what a smart British government would have done in response to EUropean countries vaccine mandates for health workers: it would have done the exact opposite, thereby luring them to that world class NHS, the care homes and the country instead of ruining all three.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Imagine what could have been done with the money wasted on testing, vaccines and furlough: the NHS would be world class and never in danger of being overwhelmed ever.”

Exactly. Cancers caught and treated early, for example. Actual lives saved and improved. A point to make when lockdown loonies try to claim the moral high ground.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Ah, but that money hasn’t been wasted. Every penny of it has flowed and oozed its way into the right hands.

That was always one of the goals of the plandemic.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

It’s looking increasingly likely that Professor Lord Doctor Sir Chris Whitty might have to reluctantly but firmly remove the dangerously unhinged Boris Johnson from his post.

The thought of it happening the other way round is now simply inconceivable.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

If Chris Whitty had been in charge when I broke my leg, he’d have mandated my arms, legs and head be amputated.

D B
D B
4 years ago

wouldn’t want you to break those too… better to be safe than sorry.

RickH
4 years ago

Just cast a glance at the Scary Fairy Journal aka the Cabinet Office House Journal aka ‘The Groan’. Yes – I apologize.

Latest scary stuff accompanied by a picture of a patient on a trolley – remember supposedly for a respiratory disease – with a mask on.

Such is the witchcraft now substituted for medicine.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

I was perplexed by the item about ‘beta’ variant and France, as there is absolutely no news here about it, only about delta.
After digging I found that 88 ‘cases’ have been found in France over the last four weeks. However its just possible that the ‘learned’ folk in the UK looking at French numbers do not appreciate that 100% of the cases in one French department are beta. That department is Reunion, a vocanic island in the Indian Ocean. Perhaps they are not aware that France still has its mini-empire of assorted departments around the world that are legally part of France, but not geographically part of mainland France. Their results are amalgamated in the total France results without distinction. You need to anayse the breakdown at layers below.
I realise that pre-emptive news of a possible reduction in covid testing for travellers to France from the UK to 24 hours might have tempted retributory action, but its unfortunate no one had a map handy.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Praise where praise is due.
Costa coffee has just sent an email stating :”From Monday, face coverings and social distancing will no longer be required but show respect to those customers who want to continue wearing face masks and social distance”.
What a difference to those loathsome shops (you know who you are) with their mealy mouthed mantra of “It’s not mandatory to wear face masks, etc but if you don’t, you will be publicly shamed and vilified”.
Well done,Costa, one of the “Good guys”.

zebedee
zebedee
4 years ago

The Telegraph needs a better editor. Rolls-Royce Cars rather than Rolls-Royce, the former being BMW who licence the name.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

64% of people will continue to wear face nappies on and after next Monday.
36% of people are NORMAL then.

Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
4 years ago

So the question for Whitty is easy: how does he see this ending?

Everyone who is vulnerable is vaccinated.

So we spend the rest of our lives “locked down” anyway?

He is a metaphorical General who has no route now to victory.

So we need to start living our lives again.

Because death one day is the only certainty of life.

This whole thing is completely nuts.

As it always was.