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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Isolation rules slam the breaks on freedom”.

Sorry but there is no freedom whilst any of these human rights abuses remain, including but not necessarily limited to: abuse of people in care homes; any sort of experimental ‘vaccine’ coercion; test and trace and the forced isolation of healthy people; requirement to use face coverings that did not previously exist. Witless suggests that there will be no freedom day until at least spring. Do these villains ever intend to give us freeedom? I think the government should tell us.

Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

People will sadly forget very quickly, and we lockdown sceptics have to keep on banging the drum to highlight that our given rights of individuals and our freedoms have been taken and this must never happen again.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Fast track lanes for vaccinated passengers at Heathrow”

Maybe there should be an anti-vaccine apartheid demonstration at some of these establishments… if they want to ban people from seeing their family abroad indefinitely for the “crime” of refusing dangerous experimental treatment, this is absolutely not acceptable, and not freedom.
Despite talk of “freedom”, there is no letup in the human rights abuses.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

If 90% of the population are jabberwocked and 10% are not, which queues at Heathrow are going to move faster?

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Indeed. I can see a world coming into existence soon, where only the jabbed have to queue and where only they will have to get tested, as it should be.
And as none of the plandemic organizers got the real gene therapies, only saline solutions, that suits them very well again.
In case anyone still thought that ‘we are all in this together’ ….
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/eu-proposes-exempt-private-jets-cargo-jet-fuel-tax

Marmalade
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Depends how many staff service each queue.

Anyway this must be against privacy law though? Vaccination (or not) is a matter of private medical record, but standing in a queue makes it public for all to see.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Almost certainly the one for the virtuous vaccinated – they will make sure that those who haven’t followed government orders are inconvenienced as much as possible.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Local authorities will continue to hold emergency powers until autumn”.

Of course they will, because otherwise they cannot push their experimental “vaccines” being administered under emergency authorisation, and so they will think of ways extending the emergency until such time as they can be given without “emergency authorisation”, which may of course be another fiddle when it happens. In the same way, ivermectin will remain “unproven” on some technicality for as long as required. I assume.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Government now following the economy”.

Anyone remember when “Labour” used to say that billions of pounds of cuts would cost many thousands of lives. And we’ve been spending enough on the current shambles to make the HS2 white elephant look a bargain. Where are they in this? Are they actually stupid (probably possible come to think of it) or just corrupt? The MMT proponents can say what they like, this nonsense is a disaster for many millions of people.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Can ‘Boris’ stand firm”?

I’ll say this now, if he doesn’t, he’s more Lord Haw-Haw than Churchill.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

They hanged Haw-Haw.
Richly deserved.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Or corporal Jones/private Frazier.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

So masks are not going to be a legal requirement but many shops and businesses will still require people to wear them, unless exempt…and all making up their own rules as they go. Not going to be confusing at all…In other words, we’re going makes this as awkward as possible, open to all sorts of interpretation, open to causing abuse between people, so that people will continue to wear them to save any hassle, which saves them still, from having to grow a backbone and/or a pair of balls…and a brain.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

“Unless exempt”. That’s a relief, it sounded like they wouldn’t have to do exemptions any more.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Mr Mather, a consultant solicitor for Nexa Law, told MailOnline as long as a business is not being discriminatory they can enforce the rule in their stores. He said: ‘If a shop keeper or other premises owner wanted to continue to require customers to wear masks, they would be entitled to do so provided that they did not discriminate on certain grounds set out in the Equality Act.’ He continued: ‘Ultimately, a shop is private property and so I would suggest that the owner could do what they wanted on masks. ‘A shop can refuse entry to any one on any grounds – except discrimination – and so the same would apply to a non-mask wearer – they could refuse them entry.’ He added: ‘The handing back to the public of this moral responsibility actually causes more problems than the legislation did. ‘Wear a mask or don’t wear a mask will become one’s own decision, and therefore it is difficult to see shops and public places having the same mandatory rules. ‘It would be better for shops just to say that we ”support the government guidance and recommend mask wearing in store” but then not enforce it and leave people… Read more »

Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

In Germany mask wearing in shops has been mandatory since May last year, FFP2 masks became mandatory in December and still are.
One can get an exemption with a doctors certificate.
Or be very strong willed and know your law (Klagepaten did a very good video about this)
Supermarkets cannot claim Hausrecht (owner of the premise and therefor can my make my own rules) and deny entry as they are essential for survival.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Edeka overwhelmingly does though, and gets away with it.
Same for many others, Ikea being one of the worst from the start.
The whole thing has degenerated into a hugely divisive and stressful nightmare there. The situation is incomparable with the UK for an exempt person.
But deep down, that is mainly due to the peoples very different character: Oberlehrer vs Gentleman.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Just as I thought, it’s going to be a minefield out there. WHEN at any point in history, has a shop or pub or whatever, EVER had the right to dictate what a customer must wear across their face, blocking their airways, and causing possible harm to their health, because if its not “law” anymore, then the threat has passed, surely?!!! Will these places carry out a health risk assessment before dictating that you wear a facemask on their premises? Still, I only hope sensible businesses that actually WANT customers, and want to survive, will exercise discretion and allow their customers to choose what is best for them. Hopefully, people will vote with their feet if any shop or whatever gets arsey, and go elsewhere.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Exactly.
The u derlying problem is that it is a huge folly to argue and promote the idea that businesses are above the law, as Johnson&co do for obedience (to his corporate masters) and convenience purposes.
Sadly, only Ron DeSantis gets that.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Well I remember the long hot summer of 76 when pubs were banning people in shorts or sandals.

Agreed, if they choose to mandate face nappies then I choose to take my business elsewhere

Annie
4 years ago

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iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What, you too!?

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago

From the “Germany’s fight against vaccine fatigue” Christine Falk says she can convince undecided people to get vaccinated in just fifteen minutes, simply by raising their awareness. The president of the German Society for Immunology, she always makes the same point when she talks to vaccine skeptics.“This virus plays Russian roulette with people’s lives, and you can never tell who it will hit hard. Vaccination is the best shield you can give yourself. Anyone who doesn’t get vaccinated can expect to get infected sooner or later,” she tells them. Maybe she can convince undecided people, but I’m completely decided: I play Russian roulette every day, and so does she. I get in the car. I go caving. I decide to eat an extra cream bun. I make a judgement about how many chambers the revolver has, and act accordingly. I cannot tell who it (Covid19) will hit hard. Neither can I tell who the vaccine will hit hard. The best shield I can give myself is good health and a robust immune system. Will that be good enough? I don’t know but that is the way I am betting. Anyone who doesn’t get vaccinated can expect to get infected. Yes, I know that. I would really like to go… Read more »

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

Yes, I’d like fifteen minutes with this pseudomedinazi.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I was called by the NHS vax nazis last week, husband has already had 2 calls. I now have a script ready for when they call again. I have a lot of questions about statistics regarding adverse effects which require hospital treatment & statistics about my chances of needing hospital treatment for covid. I doubt they will have any answers. I do, so perhaps I can educate them.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I really wish someone would just set up a “vaccine” centre where they squirt the crap on the floor and pretend you have had it. That would be sweet.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I play Russian Roulette with regard to the virus and the gene therapy.
For me, there is 1 bullet in the chamber in a round of 100.000 pulls of the trigger in the case of the virus.
There is an unknown number of bullets in such a round in the case of the vaccine.
Personally, I did some research and connected and some dots and deem the number of bullets in the latter case to be quite high, in the 1000s, so it was, is and will remain a no-brainer for me to play the game she wants me to play instead of the one I want to play.

David Scott
David Scott
4 years ago

Why do so many people in this country not want their freedom back? It’s because they have effectively turned into the Brooks character from The Shawshank Redemption.

from IMDB:
“Not long afterwards, Brooks snaps and threatens to kill Heywood in order to avoid being paroled… He has become essentially conditioned to be a prisoner for the rest of his life and is unable to adapt to the outside world. Red remarks: “These walls are funny. First you hate ’em, then you get used to ’em. Enough time passes, you get so you depend on them.” Brooks is paroled and goes to live in a halfway house. He is also given a job at a supermarket which he hates. Finding it impossible to adjust to life outside the prison, he eventually commits suicide…”

TreeHugger
4 years ago

With the Telegraph poll standing at 78% of readers ditching their masks on 19th I hope that any businesses who insist on them are boycotted, vote with your feet.
Much as I hate change, if any of the services I use (hairdresser etc) require them after 19th I will go elsewhere. My local corner shop has already stopped enforcement, the tide is turning on this issue at least.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

We have two mini-supermarkets on my estate. I’ve noticed that hardly anyone wears a mask in the independant one but they dutifuly will in the mini Tesco – often the same people. It truly is mind boggling.

JayBee
4 years ago

LOL. The virus get smarter by the day….

Silke David
4 years ago

I used to work at our council owned music venue for the catering company.
I checked their upcoming concerts yesterday, and was very surprised to see that from 19th July NO RESTRICTIONS!
NO MASKS, NO KEEPING SEATS FREE, CASH PAYMENTS, QUEUE AT THE BAR etc
Apparently even our holier than thou catering company. Sodexo, who have a contract supplying staff for testing stations ( my management was deployed last year) will do away with masks for staff.
Of course I welcome this, although I find it illogical, but what has been logical the last 15.5 months, that one day we still have T&T, masks, keep distance, bing bang bong, midnight. Not necessary!

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago

Supermarkets and other such places have constantly been at pains to tell us with their posters and announcements that they are merely ‘following Government guidlines’ yet it appears after 19th July many WON’T be following government guidelines and will do want they deem fit. The hypocrisy is off the scale.

Silke David
4 years ago

Let’s just see what happens. It is probably another MSM strategy to GET businesses to this.

J4mes
4 years ago

I have no time for Julia Hartley-Brewer and her ferocious pro-double-jab support.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I struggle with lockdown sceptics who support the mass vaccination, but I would rather have her half on our side than not. She has a platform and is unafraid of asking politicians tough questions. She’s been accused of being a shill but I just think she’s wrong on vaccines, but I see no reason to doubt her sincerity in wanting to criticise the rest of the response. We’re not exactly overwhelmed with people on our side who have platforms in the MSM and use them.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

My issue arises from a curious commonality between all of whom I call ‘mainstream opposition’, which is that they all support the ‘vaccine’ but claim to oppose lockdown. GB News is a good example; they’re opposed to lockdown (though this position seems to soften every day), but they’re hyper-pro-double-jab. We’ve all been aware that Toby Young has been a fervent supporter of the jab and it’s well known that Peter Hitchens was one of the early ‘defectors’ [for want of a better word].

It is reported on the Yellow Card system that the ‘vaccine’ has killed almost 1,500 people in the UK, and undoubtedly many more have gone unreported. They know the figures, they’re not uninformed. I can not and will not campaign alongside anyone who supports this.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

In the UK, most of the vaccine support from the anti-lockdown camp is simply due to – misguided- pseudo patriotism.
Similar to Brexit.
It is no accident that these two camps strongly overlap.
Sunken cost fallacy does the rest.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I think people are programmed to believe in vaccines – I know I was. Hitchens explained why he did it and it wasn’t for medical reasons. I think he made a mistake, but I don’t think he’s a tool of the establishment.

I think you can be pro-vaxx but against coercion (though I am against these vaxxes, at present), and against the vaxx being the solution or the way to get freedoms back, but it’s perhaps a slightly subtle position.

If you murmur anything against the vaxx you will be slaughtered/dismissed as a crank. Some of these people might be not saying much for tactical reasons.

It’s a difficult choice in the circumstances, but I choose to think of myself as part of a broader anti-lockdown coalition while not agreeing with all of them. One step at a time. But your view is perfectly understandable, though I dispute your “claim to oppose lockdown” – I think they DO oppose lockdown.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“….programmed to believe in vaccines – I know I was”, which is one reason why it’s called so. Maybe another factor is the bureaucracy for gaining approval of any novel drug, and exploiting the existence of “emergency use authorisation”. In a sane world, it would be better to use a new term expressing it’s functionality, such as any number of products that used to be brand new, like ‘mobile phones’, e.g., but that’s where we are. Some might say that they are bending the definition of ‘vaccination’ to a large degree.

thedarkhorse
4 years ago

I see the ONS figures are claiming 9 out of 10 people in England, Wales, Ireland have covid antibodies as at/from 14th June. Commenters elsewhere saying well this is herd immunity, surely?

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BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

General observation.

Lockdowner = Remainer = Leftist = Statist = Socialist = Communist = Totalitarian = Killjoy

swedenborg
4 years ago

Surprisingly well written and balanced report by the BBC journalists.This would not have been written just 3 mths ago. Something is changing for the better.

J4mes
4 years ago

I see the dark forces have produced another god-awful ‘vaccination’ advert with Jim Broadbent. The song sings about how the ‘vaccine’ gives your body a ‘tingle-feeling’ – would that be when the blood is clotting/thinning? I honestly believe they’re laughing at us now.

The only link I could find to the video is MSN (my apologies):

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/in-depth/celebrities-come-together-to-back-new-covid-19-vaccine-campaign/vp-AALIgEY

Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I think that was the comment I mad underneath the video on YT.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

UK Column have also picked up on the ‘tingling’ feature of the song, referring to those who have been paralysed by the ‘vaccine’.

I wonder if pro-‘vaccine’ Hartley-Brewer has any views of the morbid themes being played out in this video using huge amounts of tax payer money?

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

It’s the “come to Daddy” bit that makes me very uncomfortable! The whole thing smacks of something quite sinister. Check out Hugo Talks for his theory on this – very interesting! Also, Broadbent’s sneering “just get the vaccine! ” at the end, makes me want to chuck.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

I think I will do this in future …

Screenshot 2021-07-07 at 13-51-20 We Will Be Free on Twitter.png
Brett_McS
4 years ago

“There will be another pandemic,” Warren Buffett has warned. “I’m funding its development” he added soto voce.