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Brett_McS
4 years ago

Doctors who “want to keep masks” should have to reapply for their medical licenses. Clearly they have a defective understanding of the principles of science and medicine.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Aussie doctors seem to be the most stupid and backwards of the lot.
A friend of mine lived there and caught tuberculosis when travelling through Asia. The Aussie doctor he saw couldn’t and wouldn’t do anything else but googling tuberculosis.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Doctators…

porgycorgy
porgycorgy
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

I met an elderly man in Waitrose yesterday, struggling with a heart condition – and a mask. He was afraid to take it off, even though I intervened on his conversation with a junior member of staff and told him he had absolutely no obligation to wear a mask. I offered him my lanyard – he declined, but promised to order one the next day. The government is abusing vulnerable people.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  porgycorgy

Of course they do.
All part of the plan.
Every single PI, NPI, non PI had and has only one effect: making people more sick and shortening their life expectancy.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  porgycorgy

Quite frankly, I’ve lost sympathy for anyone who is gripped by corona fear or who doggedly follows these demented rules.

They are part of the coalition of psychopaths in charge and the mass of brainwashed idiots that is turning the world into an unbearable dystopia.

Screw em.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

That’s an amazing coincidence, I just deleted my LinkedIn account.

ScepticSteve
4 years ago

“The British Medical Association is calling for the continued use of face masks…”

The BMA is either totally corrupt, or run by ignoramuses and clowns.

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

Emmerich
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

My bet is on the former. Probably another Gates funded organisation

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmerich

No: both!

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

It depends on your definition of ignoramus, but assuming you mean people who don’t know the facts or are stupid (IQ well under 100) then I’m sure they are not ignoramuses. Neither are Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam, the PM, rest of the Cabinet. Intelligence is not what is lacking. It is character.

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

…and integrity.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

The BMA needs to be muzzled.

Annie
4 years ago

‘Florence allows tourists to eat or drink.’
A harsh choice, methinks.

JayBee
4 years ago

Sadly, Israelis still refuse to connect the dots and draw the correct conclusions….

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Israel : The coronavirus cabinet will meet this week to discuss the Delta variant outbreak in Israel, as one research team warned that the country could see as many as 1,000 new cases a day in the next two weeks – compared to the current 300.

Wait a minute am I missing something here? Israel was recently hailed as a success story and an example by this government and many others around the world because it had vaccinated most of its population in such a short space of time and was heading for normalty once again …. but now they saying that Israel is still going to see 1000’s more virus cases (not necessarily sick people just cases) despite its world-beating vaccination program?

So what was the point in rushing to get the entire country vaccinated if those vaccines don’t work everytime there is a variant?

Are we going to have another race to vaccinate entire populations once again against all the mutating variants that head our way?

I simply don’t get it ?

This is madness.

The only thing mutating appears to be the endless lies we are being fed.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

They didn’t just jab people, they hounded, shamed, stigmatised and marginalised the un-stabbed. Treated them like Jews in Nazi Germany, yeah.
Worked a treat, didn’t it?

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

What comes around goes around…
The same will happen in the UK and in the EU countries.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

None of the vaccine companies have claimed that the vaccines stop infection. Their claim is that it reduces the chance of hospitalisation.

What is misleading people are governments introducing vaccine certifications, making travel conditional on vaccination, trying to enforce vaccination in certain job sectors. None of that makes any sense whatsoever based on the vaccine prospectuses.

Right now, living in this world feels very much like being trapped in a lunatic asylum.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

They don’t even claim the latter.
They might hope for that but officially the shots only reduce mild symptoms.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Plus governments claim asymptomatic infectiousness is a thing, and then say get the jab it reduces symptoms to nearly nothing (asymptomatic)…

Odd-dat-init?

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

The vaccine programs aren’t designed to control a virus; they are designed to control a population. Governments are intensifying rather than reevaluating their efforts, even as the vaccines are proving ineffective, dangerous and deadly. It isn’t easy to comprehend such evil or acknowledge that we are in its sights.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

And some people are still sceptical re the depopulation agenda.
I found the Dea gel report really disturbing in its population size forecasts – I hope it’s not true, but in the face of all the irrational behaviour, it does seem increasingly credible.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Well it isn’t. World population grew by 1% last year. See table on the reddit site.
Some pandemic, some depopulation agenda.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I believe its a wealth redistribution agenda, as normal, from the proles to the establishment.

Julian
4 years ago

Opportunist power grab

arfurmo
arfurmo
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

It’s like lockdowns -the only reason they don’t work is that they are not for long enough or hard enough. Australia shows that -they started to let people out and whoosh. They should have banned anyone except police being outside for five years. Well ok delivery drivers and refuse collectors. Ok then utility workers, farmers ,vets , doctors, dock workers, transportation workers (that’s enough, ed).

Monro
4 years ago

‘The Good Intentions Paving Company’ ‘This study demonstrates that nicotine decreases food intake and body weight by influencing the hypothalamic melanocortin system’ https://science.sciencemag.org/content/332/6035/1330.abstract But smoking reduces life span by 10 years so governments made cigarettes prohibitively expensive So people got fatter: ‘At a BMI of more than 23 kg/m2, we found a linear increase in risk of severe COVID-19 leading to admission to hospital and death, and a linear increase in admission to an ICU across the whole BMI range, which is not attributable to excess risks of related diseases. The relative risk due to increasing BMI is particularly notable people younger than 40 years and of Black ethnicity.’ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00089-9/fulltext And so Influenza Like Illnesses now reduce life expectancy for the obese by 40 years. Well done everyone……not…..as lockdowns return tens of millions to extreme poverty in the developing world. ‘“You can project out and think about what a pandemic might be like or look like, but until you live through it, it’s pretty hard to know what the reality will be like. So I think we predicted quite well that, depending on what the disease was, it could spread very, very, very quickly. The spread did not surprise us.’… Read more »

JayBee
4 years ago
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Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Maybe the escaped virus was engineered to target the very old and very fat.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Bloody silly idea then. They are the least ‘useful’ members of society. A weaponised Chinese virus would attack the young and fit…
Wait a second, though. Destroy the minds of the young and fit, and the job is done, whatever hapoens to the old and fat.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Absolutely!

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

‘MG:’…until you live through it, it’s pretty hard to know what the reality will be like.’

I’ve not got the foggiest what she’s on about because I’ve not yet experienced living through a pandemic.

A genuine pandemic, that is.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

“What did surprise us is we hadn’t really thought through the economic impacts.’

Lying sow.

I had worked out the economic impact within 30 minutes of mandatory lockdown being announced. I was off on GDP by a couple of percentage points for the first quarter and pretty much nailed the industries that would be hammered (and the ones that would benefit). It literally took me 30 minutes.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Reminds me of the script for an old “Yes, Minister” comedy years ago, in which Sir Humphrey (the real boss) advised Hacker (the minister) that smoking was a good set up, because of the high tax revenue, plus the fact that they died earlier, and saved the NHS cash. Not so many elderly patients with all sorts of problems etc.

JayBee
4 years ago

Jeffrey Tucker is, as always, correct, but unfortunately also not just too optimistic but deluded.
The article he cites just mirrors the totally irrational fanaticism voiced by the Aussie doctors here.
And the many newly created vested interests as well as the brainwashed public’s mood and by now engrained cognitive biases, prejudices and convictions will ensure that we will do the same things all over again when the next pandemic or plandemic arrives, if we can ever leave the current one, which is a big IF.
This approach can and will end only one way, the way all cults have ended: in and with the catastrophe, meaning hundreds of millions of deaths and illnesses due to the gene therapies which can’t be covered up anymore and/or when the money has run out and the MMT experiment been ended in total failure.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Zombies in Australia are now gibbering for flu to be treated ‘like Covid’.
The Continent of Eternal Living Death.

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Actually, that is a positive development, as there no lockdowns, social distancing etc with a flu virus.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

No, what Aussies want is perpetual lockdowns, social distancing etc. until they attain to Zero Flu.

JayBee
4 years ago

Fully agree with Neil Oliver, but there were many forks in the road already, where we have taken the wrong turn.
First, it was lockdowns and declaring and accepting that some people and businesses are essential and others aren’t.
Only Kristi Noem got that one right.
Then it was mask and invasive test mandates, who infringe upon our inalienable individual right of bodily autonomy, paving the way for the extension of that infringement to vaccination and the eventual wholesome abolition of all of them.
Censoring, curtailing the right to assemble and all the respective confirmatory court judgements did the rest and were further such forks where we got it wrong.
Discriminating against the unvaxxed was the latest, most despicable and most serious of these forks and wrong turns, which again also paved the way for the new leader in that regard, child ‘vaccination’ against Covid with medically totally unnecessary experimental gene therapies.
If this mankind survives, future historians and people will have nothing good to say about it.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

This is the new race, zombiekind, a subspecies of humanity. And they don’t come more sub than this.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

You need to separate and encourage cattle-kind from humans.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Kristi Noem 2024

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

The worst step was the first step. Once a population accepts arbitrary, forced house arrest, it will accept almost anything.

There are only two things that go further than arbitrary forced house arrest. Arbitrary imprisonment in a government facility and execution on the basis of health status.

So of course the public is going to swallow masks, tests, vaccines, vaccine passports, isolation, suspended education, destruction of businesses, all of it, on the grounds of protecting the population. None of it is as bad as being branded a biological weapon and being imprisoned in your own home.

(Several governments, including the UK’s, actually engaged in what amounts to execution on the basis of health status by sending sick elderly back into care homes to make space for younger patients – that never materialised. And we’ve accepted that too.)

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

don’t forget the do not resucitate business.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Four steps to Covid freedom” – Boris is to let fully vaccinated Brits go to amber-list countries without quarantine on return from July 19th, the Mail on Sunday reports

If you need government permission to do things you once could do for free then you have not got your freedoms back. I noticed that most of the freedoms Boris is so generously returning are under conditions that you get the jab first ( a vaccine that does not guarantee you won’t still get or pass on the virus) … this is not the road to freedom this is the road to coercion.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Serfdom.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Depressing, looking through the News Roundup.

And as you wish that somehow sense will prevail, it just gets more and more rotten.

Words are high-level, emotion is low-level. How then, to express oneself, how to even manage to cope? The relentless demented injustice is devastating at the fundamental, personal level. Words become utterly inadequate and inappropriate in the need to express/relate the feelings/emotions generated by all this awfulness.

Fucked 🙁

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago

It is rather a pessimistic Round Up today.

stewart
4 years ago

Thursday’s Solzhenitsyn essay helps in a strange kind of way.

It doesn’t give hope about beating totalitarian tyranny, but it does suggest how to live through it with dignity.

I think that’s the ambition at this point. Sites like this one will be allowed to exist as long as they are fringe and don’t really have an impact. The moment it threatens to have an impact it will get shut down as has happened with dissent in social media that can be impactful.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

Interesting how many of those headlines are all about ‘cases’ isn’t it?

Our media really do suck balls.

Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

‘Cases’ my foot. Most of them just wanted to be certain they’d have the time off to watch the football. I understand orange juice does the trick.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago

Triggernometry were doing so well in that video, then they trotted out the tired old, lefty knee-jerk ‘blame Thatcher’ routine.

Apart from being an utterly ludicrous application to the current situation (and making me switch off and dismiss anything they have to say), you don’t have to have been a massive fan of hers to acknowledge doubt over whether she would have endorsed or entertained the response we have endured since March 2020.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

I am a massive fan of hers, and a few handbaggings would have sorted out this evil mob in no time.

Baron_Jackfield
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

Agreed… These juvenile left-wing “political experts” appear to have absolutely no idea of the dire state that the UK was in prior to Mrs Thatcher taking over the reins, and that she was essentially a “breath of fresh air” for anyone involved in trade / business. Depressing also that they have to harken-back over 40 years to find someone to politically insult. IMHO there have been several far more “worthy” candidates since MT.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago

It’s risible, Blair has caused far, far more widespread damage than her and is still unelectedly meddling now, yet these idiots automatically reach for a far more benign predecessor. Why didn’t he fix everything when he had the chance?

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

Agree, except regarding switching them off.
If I only listen to and engage with those who I agree with on absolutely everything I will be doomed to a solitary existence.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I’m afraid it’s far too spittle-flecked ‘Ben Elton’ for me and speaks of unhinged lefty tosser playing to the drunks in the audience.

I, too, can listen to and appreciate many rational arguments from many different perspectives so the inference in that jibe misses the mark.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

“Doctors want to keep some measures after July 19th” – Doctators, you mean

mattblack
mattblack
4 years ago

I think I’ll just buy the telegraph and ignore lds

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  mattblack

Yes, as you can’t read it in full without a sub, whether it’s worth reading or not!

Noumenon
4 years ago

“Maybe We’re Too Ready for the Next Pandemic”

Yes, we’ve given our civilisation a form of social ADE

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

News Roundup – BBC item (Doctors want to keep some restrictions post-19th July).

Dr Chaand Nagpaul, BMA council chairman:
“The promise was to make decisions based on data and not dates, and while we were pleased to see the government react to data in delaying the easing on 21 June last month, ministers must not now simply disregard the most recent, damning numbers by rushing into meeting their new 19 July deadline.”
“Targeted measures” put forward by the professional body for doctors include requiring people to continue wearing face coverings in enclosed public spaces, such as shops and on public transport.

!!!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

Has Dr Nagpaul not looked at the infection graphs for countries and states around the world and seen the total lack of any impact resulting from muzzle mandates? The fact that they don’t work really could not be clearer to anyone who wants to make “decisions based on data”.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The muzzle has nothing to do with health. OK, with deliberately endangering it, but otherwise and mainly it is just a Gessler’s hat.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

A Gessler’s hat, yes, but also free, constant, in-your-face advertising for the govt – look, there’s a pandemic – there must be because everyone is masked