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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Mass testing provides skewed testing”.

Yes, and I’ve managed to avoid testing so far, but too many things now require a “vaccine” or negative test. How many things will be closed to me if I continue my stance of no vaccine, no test? And would it matter that much if I gave in to testing if life started to become intolerable without it? And how many will actually take these “vaccines”?

Sorry, but people have to try and find the least bad options given various intolerable choices by this vile regime. I was bracing myself to give in to some of it so as to see my grandma before she died, but left it too late in the end (having been unable to see her for months after March). I repeat, it’s vile what this regime has done to people. I’m furious with the government and the spineless so-called opposition.

AnnabelleG
AnnabelleG
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I agree with you what they have done is vile — Liars – they have not done it to themselves though as can time and time again. They care about their careers…

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

https://hack-and-trace.me/ for experimenting with the internal passports.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

I just looked – “donate to the project”???? Are.They. Kidding???

NonCompliant
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Just got to hold your ground. It’s been obvious that if things followed to their natural conclusion these bastards were going to try and exclude us, step by step.

If people throw in the towel now then there will NEVER be any way back.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

I agree. I have often been told I’m cutting off my nose to spite my face but I am quite prepared to do that in order to fight the utter nonsense going on.

vlysander
vlysander
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Same here, never will i get tested or take a vaccine. Even if it means cuttting me off from doing certain things, theres other things to find in life.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

I tried to explain to elderly parent that the nasal swabs are contaminated with known carcinogen. She just wasn’t having it – but then her husband has been allowing them to swab his nostrils on a weekly basis as part of some “survey” for which he gets shopping vouchers for participating in.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Does everyone have a place where they place their comfort over principle? Perhaps, but I guess you don’t know until you get there.

I think what we currently have is too much belief that other citizens have a right to “insist” that you participate in medical screening as a condition of you being able to do something. It’s my belief that this is simply a social contract and it’s much easier to say no than people think.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Please watch this before giving in to pcr testing. It’s not just invasive and uncomfortable, but appears to be about harvesting our dna data without our informed consent for an ever growing and powerful genomics industry. Sinister.

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/pcr-testing-and-the-genome-beast

A Y M
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I had long suspected that our personal genetic codes were being harvested for future use. Ancestry.scam was recently bought by Blackstone, so what was once a playful curious it’s into our heritage is now information, traceable, on every poor fool wondering who their great great grandparents were. This is the same company intent on buying up every residential property it can get its hands on and turning everyone into rent slaves…

thedarkhorse
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Don’t give in. Everyone who does makes it worse for those of us who remain opposed. We have to be prepared to be excluded from many things. It’s not pleasant, I’ve been there in the distant past, had quite some training at loneliness and feeling excluded. But it will be worth it when we break this crap apart finally. It just needs one key issue to wake the sheeple up and there will be all-out war. Finding the key issue is the thing.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  thedarkhorse

As much as I would like to agree I think we are long past the point where people might ‘wake up’. For nearly eighteen months most folk have gone along with the official narrative and absolutely nothing will act as a trigger towards an alternative mindset. Those that did ‘wake up’ did so early in the ‘crisis’ after digging a little deeper than what the BBC and the rest of the inept MSM fed them.

Julian
4 years ago

I think people are waking up, slowly. Certainly plenty of people now think we should open up, who didn’t earlier. Probably fewer waking up to the deception, still a lot of people think the govt has acted in good faith throughout, and that covid was exceptional. Give them a chance though – they have not been exposed to alternative messages much. The enemy has outspent us on propaganda by factor of God knows what – thousands, millions. It would be a surprise if the sceptic case had won out.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They are showing pavlovian responses, this is bad not good.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Bad, yes indeed, but predictable.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

Agreed – I saw the headline yesterday that wealthy businessmen who are coming into the UK to make a big deal don’t have to quarantine. Creating an elite – a two tier society. If people can’t see it when they read that then there is no help for them. Sadly, a lot of people cannot see it and I don’t have a lot of hope for our country “waking up”.

Monro
4 years ago

‘“It’s unconscionable that I’m considered a law-breaker for not wearing a mask on station platforms,”

Socialism; a democratic socialist big state in action and it is not pleasant.

Until a nation stands up and states, categorically, that this state of affairs, blatant repression of populations, is completely unacceptable in a ‘free society’ (I would never have dreamt of putting free society in inverted commas 18 months ago), an overmighty public sector will run the increasingly draconian rule over us forever.

There is only one country that will, conceivably, do that…..and it isn’t this one.

Galt’s Gulch beckons.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

The Leukemic state,
In Leukemia white blood cells vastly proliferate from their small number at the expense of other cells, stealing their energy and gradually weakening the whole body, these cells are also not very good at doing their “intended” role.
Time for public sector to receive chemo.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Chinese vaccine which the country used to protect the population”

You fall for PR every time.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

“I hate SAGE and I hate what they have done to this country…

“But if you want this madness to end, it’s time for peaceful people power.”

Totally agree. Therefore it is time for men of valour and courage to stand up to this tyranny. And I mean ‘men’. Masculinity is required to defeat this ongoing evil – as it always has been before. I make no apologies for that.

Annie
4 years ago

Women can be he-women too. Just try us.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Absolutely!

It’s time to initiate a serious pushback against these monsters. They cannot be allowed to win.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago

Why shouldn’t Witty be made to feel uncomfortable trying to go outside? The bastard can’t just sidestep being responsible for locking 65 million people in their homes for 18 months. He had the choice to keep following what he knows to be the real science but instead he crumbled and took the pharma money instead.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

I agree. I haven’t watched the video and disagree with any physical attack, even just jostling, but verbally letting him know how we feel should be enough to make the weasel squirm. All of them should be loudly told what they’ve done every time they step outside.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Without violence this is never going to end. An uncomfortable thought, I know, but realistic.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Blown out of proportion. He wasn’t attacked at all.

In a school yard it would be called a bit of joshing.

“attacked?”

FFS.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

So are Mr Dolan, Mr Young, Mr Tice, Mr Fox and their ilk going to team up and get things moving or are they just going to continue state the obvious and play the lone ranger?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

It would be good. I don’t think they have quite enough money, though they might be able to get enough together with a few other middle-ranking rich sceptics. You also need to be prepared to sacrifice your current and future reputation, be shunned and/or persecuted by the media, business associates, customers, the government. Dolan and Fox seem pretty thick skinned and prepared to speak as they find, TY and Tice maybe not so much as they are more “political” (though I admit I don’t know about Tice). But any serious organised opposition to coronamadness, especially if it questions vaccines, will be met with a vicious backlash and could turn very nasty indeed – for example if the vaccine program looked like it might be derailed I think we would see a nastier side to govt than we have yet, and there would be boycotts from big tech, banks. You might need to buy your own vans and printing presses and recruit an army of pamphleteers.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Where do I sign?

john ball
john ball
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

please can Reform Reclaim UKIP Freedom Alliance Heritage get together and form one party and not split the vote. As far as the voter is concerned they are all anti totalitarian, anti lockdown and ant vaccine passports. I do not know or care that much about their differences, which I suspect may a lot be personality clashes from the UKIP days.Or at the least agree on one candidate for the next bye election who should not drop out.Not happy with Reform/Reclaim in Batley, at least Heritage is still there. In fact would prefer Labour to get in rather than Conservatives to show that Johnson is not really that popular. For bye elections would also be happy to join in with Piers Corbyn ( but not his brother) and as quid pro quo let him be the chosen candidate in a seat where he has the best chance.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  john ball

Yes it’s a shame there are so many, though combined in London they got very few votes

Also Freedom Alliance and to an extent SDP are anti lockdown

One day they may coalesce

Brett_McS
4 years ago

This is our “Fight them on the beaches” moment, before they get a foothold. We need to step up from Lockdown Skeptics to being Lockdown Slayers.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

A cross-party group has claimed that taxpayers stand to lose out on tens of billions of pounds due to fraudulent use of the COVID-19 support schemes, the Guardian reports”

That’s because they can’t do accounting.

Any money that government hands out comes back to government as tax eventually for any given tax rate. Nothing is lost in monetary terms. In fact the process is stimulative to the economy.

All that has happened is some people have more stuff than they should have. Stuff that likely wouldn’t have been made if the money hadn’t been handed out. Why? Because we have lots of unemployment to use up. Government leaking money means less unemployment.

In other words we are constantly overtaxed for the size of government we have. “Fraudulent loans” is just an unfair tax rebate.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

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Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Wouldn’t it be better to give me the journals and balance sheets that show the accounting mistake?

Or can’t you do that?

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Wearing face masks and social distancing should continue after July 19, a World Health Organisation (WHO) expert has warned. 

Dr David Nabarro, Special Envoy on Covid-19 for the WHO, said while he accepts keeping the restrictions will make people angry, his advice is to keep restrictions in place. 

He told the BBC’s Radio 4 PM programme: “We do have to be prepared for the inevitability that viruses will continue to be a problem for us. We’re going to have to really seriously contemplate continuing to practice some degree of physical distancing, some degree of mask wearing, some degree of hygiene, some degree of protecting those who are most at risk, as long as there are these nasty viruses around, whether or not we’re vaccinated.

“It makes people very angry because they want to be able to stop being careful but it’s my advice, and it’s just based on studying these things over the years, is that it is not a cool thing just to ditch our preventative measures on a particular date because we hope that’s going to be associated with less risks – the risks are going to stay.”

This is what groupthink looks like.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I think calling this groupthink is at best charitable. I think with people like him, and SAGE, it’s just chancers “talking their book”. They deal in emergencies and in telling people what to do about public health. Once you realise that your previously drab, faceless role is now centre stage, and the rich and powerful hang on your every word, and billions will obey you, why would you want it to stop. These people have climbed the greasy pole.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Effectively this is bureaucracies doing terrorism on the populations they are supposed to be serving in order to corral them for their convenience

thedarkhorse
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It makes things worse for us, all this masking and SD. It stops our immune systems from dealing with the day-to-day bugs that pass by us, at close quarters. Our systems have to be kept at work, that’s what they’re for. Stuffing them with injections and wrapping the body up in masks, polybags and gloves will inevitably weaken them, which of course will lead to more and more problems down the road…..which is what they want, of course.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

No – not ‘groupthink’ primarily.

This is mediocre people seizing their chance for significance and control, such as they would not gain otherwise.

They need to be put firmly back in their boxes.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Mark Dolan calls the harassment of Chris Whitty “unacceptable”.

Well don’t harrass him then, let other people harass the lockdowner back. If Whitty thinks society should be caveated by him than he should worry that other people will be “caveating” his interactions.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Yes, Whitty is a thug.

Catee
4 years ago

I have absolutely no sympathy for Whitty and believe that due to his failure to listen to other eminent dissenting voices to his and others repeated use of dodgy data, lies and provaccine stance he deserves all that is heading his way. but I do think he’s the weakest link in the chain and is therefore the right target for nonviolent ‘nudging’ to do the right thing and ‘come clean’.
If anybody has a list of all the times he has been less than honest and his email address perhaps we should all email him the list and inform him we will be supplying any future inquiry with the details.
The trick is to make him realise he’s fukced and capitulate without sending him over the top. I would not want him martyred which is what will happen if he’s physically injured either by others or his own hand.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Are the politicians waking up to the dodgy science and the activists with agenda’s?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/masterfully-done-documentary-exposes-false-science-behind-covid-19-measures

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I struggle to believe that the politicians have not long since woken up to the dodgy science. Some of them may not be all that bright, but none are them are stupid. Just vain, arrogant, cowardly, power-hungry, dishonest etc etc.

Mr Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Trocmé [a French pastor dedicated to saving Jewish children from the Nazis during WW2] … “had always believed that were two powers, good and evil, fighting over the Kingdom of the World; it was now that he decided that ‘there is a third: stupidity’.”

From Village of Secrets, Defying the Nazis in Vichy France, by C. Moorehead.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

none are them are stupid”

Depends how you define ‘stupid’.

I recommend The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity by Carlo Cipolla – a very brief tongue-in-the-cheek tome. First Law :

“Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.”

The other key law is that the proportion of stupid people is the same whatever sample of the population you analyse.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I suppose it is just possible that they are so caught up in the hysteria that they believe their own rubbish, or think they do. But that seems improbable. They are responsible for generating the hysteria, in large measure. I tend to think that suggests they know they are lying, though they may not speak about it openly in Cabinet. But is the PM too thick to look at the data and realise SAGE are talking nonsense? I don’t think so. He may not do detail, and he my be lazy, but he is not retarded.

eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It depends on how you define retarded. If a lack of cognisance renders you incapable of functioning effectively then in that particular aspect you are retarded. Johnson is in thrall to Nut Nuts, Gove and the Sage psychos. In that sense he has s a retarded Prime Minister.

OMatt
OMatt
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And if you can’t spot the stupid person in the room – it’s probably you.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I wonder how many MPs are susceptible to blackmail, too?

John
4 years ago

NHS app linking in to EU system so that we can get into EU countries. Merkel et al want all U.K. visitors to EU to quarantine. 1500 German citizens at Wembley yesterday with no masks and no distancing and definitely no quarantining, alongside 40000 English and “VIP’s” like David Beckham and Ed Sheeran.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Re: Chris Whitty, he is a thug, his recommendations are thuggery masquerading poorly as science, he deserves far more than he received.

D B
D B
4 years ago

Actually, I think Whitty needs roughing up, some idea how he’s actually harming other people by advocating his draconian Chinese policy

Mark
4 years ago

“Mark Dolan calls the harassment of Chris Whitty “unacceptable“.” FFS! Why are so many supposedly sensible people queuing up to endorse the lying propaganda line that this was an “attack” on Whitty? It’s as plain as the knob on Johnson’s head that this was just a bunch of drunken oafs excited to see someone they recognised off the telly, and wanting a photo with the “celeb”. Rowdy oafishness, not aggression. Certainly nothing like the kind of aggression Whitty’s policies have generated against dissenters, and that have been used by police against dissenters without objection by the regime. There’s a discussion to be had in chat programs and the like about how much we should worry about celebs having to take the rough with the smooth like this, and how much sympathy we should have for them when they are occasionally mildly inconvenienced by the side effects of their fame But let’s not pretend it’s something it isn’t, especially when that lie is being used to feed a dishonest propaganda narrative. The regime has highly paid professionals on the lookout for propaganda opportunities like this, and plenty of willing stooges in the media to push them out with the appropriate lying… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago

Farage catches the CoE in its default political campaigning mode yet again. Perish the thought that they might actually take their faith’s ethics seriously, rather than exploiting their position to push political stances. That would be so C19th!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgL_2qblI9E

MikeAustin
4 years ago

Chris Whitty “doubtless a nice and decent man”? I don’t think so.
“…one of the highest covid death tolls in the world” I don’t think so. Highest manipulation of data, perhaps.
Otherwise, not a bad piece Mark.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Dr David Kelly definitely came off worse!

J4mes
4 years ago

What planet is Mark Dolan living on? We can not prosecute the likes of Witless because we have an utterly corrupted crime and prosecution service. Michael O’Bernicia will now need to appeal his case because the judge who he hoped was ‘integrous’ has recently thrown out his case, under the claim his witness information was based on ‘hearsay’. And this came after a failed attempt was made to sabotage his case.

And what of Tony Blair? Has Dolan realised that not only did Blair commit countless crimes against humanity and walked away a free man unscathed, he is now very much a driving force behind this shit show?

But regardless of all this, the incident of Witless being accosted was most likely staged. I’ve seen psy-ops happen before my very eyes. I’m sure Dolan’s “nice and decent man” is perfectly fine and ready to shoe-up for his celebrity career on Strictly Come Dancing.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Totally agree about Blair, the man who keeps mainly in the shadows, but is manipulating this fiasco. Always thought all roads to ruin lead to Blair and his Blairites

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

According to the MSM, anybody who is anti lockdown is part of a mob.
Nice to know that they even notice us.

RickH
4 years ago

““How mass testing provides a skewed picture of the pandemic’s scale””

After all this time, the main messages about the inaccuracy and futility of testing are still only partially being realized. FFS!