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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Thousands of anti-lockdown protesters”.

I’ll say it again, On the first time I’ve made it to a protest, what struck me was the diversity of people represented there, which I see as a strength. From my own point of view, there were pro-lifers marching alongside socialist workers; there were Palestinians – and possibly Jews; Americans, Cubans, people against Communism; English, Scots, Welsh, British (and Cornish);many races and nationalities, all ages, all politics, all brought together by the crimes that have been committed against us, in a happy, peaceful throng, just glad to be alongside other people in an “old normal” setting. It was ridiculously diverse, and it was actually quite thrilling.

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Good onya’ mate! Reps from Oz.

Englands Dreamin
Englands Dreamin
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The govt though will just ignore the protests. The MSM barely reports it, yesterday I found it on the BBC website under the England news section and there they tried to frame the Freedom March was just one of many across the capital, ie Climate Change, ER, etc rather than acknowledge that 99% had come for the Freedom March. On Radio 4 this morning nothing.

I’m afraid that for this to change then the protests must become “mostly peaceful” BLM style ones.

RickH
4 years ago

I think we all know that the BBC news output is a busted flush – to a greater extent than ever before, under the aegis of a Tory Party shill as DG.

I would be against ‘defunding’ the Beeb. That would be a baby and bathwater job in the midst of commercial mediocrity But I would close down its remit to provide what is laughingly called ‘news’ and let it concentrate on what it’s genuinely good at.

Then – if the government wants a propaganda channel, let it have one that clearly identifies itself as such.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

 It was ridiculously diverse”

I know a simplistic take on appearances can be deceptive, but he footage I’ve seen confirms that. The same sort of diversity that one saw on the big Iraq demonstration.

manav95
manav95
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

As the Left and labor unions go, so goes the nation.

Brett_McS
4 years ago

That Sun News link goes to a brilliant little rap video:
“Though she hadn’t had her vaccination
She got a little prick from me”.
Bwahaha!

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

One down, many more to go.
Which revolting corrupt globalist weasel should be next? lots in Parliament and sage to choose from.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Guy Fawkes had the right idea. Deliver in bulk.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The unelected ones will be impossible to shift

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

One down, many more to go.”

It’ll make f. all difference.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

So, knee-jerk down-voter – why will this parade of a sexual peccadillo – make a difference when all it means currently is a substitution for the leading team on the field, getting any red card out of the way quickly?

Actual argument argument seems beyond this sort of finger-twitching.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

Snogging in front of a camera is what brings down a puppet and not what should have viz the lies and manipulation of stats and absurd draconian recommendations and the deaths by default?! FFS!

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

They got Al Capone for tax evasion.
Pragmatics.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I don’t think anyone’s been ‘got’ here…in front of an obvious camera would point to all part of the plan… in line with Gates’ divorce and Fauci’s emails.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago

The article regarding the military games in Wuhan in 2019 is interesting. 9000 athletes, from many many countries apart from the UK. Couple of Canadians speaking out.

Whatever got out of the lab, accidently or deliberately, seeded throughout the world. Was the subsequent profiteering opportunistic or planned? Lockdown was too late to achieve anything other than trash the economy.

More reports from personnel who attended, or their relatives and friends if they are unable to speak, would be useful.

Milos
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Yes, I wanted to comment on this with the same conclusions.
It’s another in line of evidence that the virus was in Wuhan and around the world much earlier (causing no excess deaths btw).

Monro
4 years ago

The dogs still bark but the caravan moved on some time ago. Statist governments, big state, the public sector are always way behind the curve. A new health secretary brings an opportunity for some novel strategic planning. The current health system in this country was badly found out many years past and we pay a higher price year on year for its systemic and managerial ineptitude, culminating in this latest murderous, likely actionable, shambles. Influenza, the common cold including common cold coronavirus epidemics, are greatly exacerbated by pre-symptomatic nosocomial infection in healthcare settings. Nosocomial infection is at its worst in massive centralised hospital complexes, as we have clearly seen over the last 15 months The health systems that have excelled in this latest epidemic have been dispersed localised systems, Norway, Germany etc with many and smaller hospitals, care homes. The fastest way to the reformed, dispersed, localised health system (which we once had…..cottage hospitals!) that we now need in this country will be a strategic cultural shift in thinking at Healthcare HQ from socialist state handout ‘big is best’ to a mixed funding social healthcare system similar to best practice within the developed nations of Europe. ‘In international comparisons of… Read more »

Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Agreed, the NHS needs to be broken up an a new model introduced, but it will be a brave UK Gov that tackles this issue.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It’s not the essential structure of the NHS that is the problem – that notion is just political opportunism riding on the back of Covid. It’s the particular nature of the government and the (non) framework of the constitution that has undermined it.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Spot on. We could do with a real constitution as well, rather than a bag of legal precedents etc.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

It would be nice if we could have some actual rights like Sweden, Eire, the USA etc.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Some hopes, with Rabid Jabbud.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

No one “needs” a state medical record, very very few benefit from cradle to grave records, and it is a menace to the individual with regards to privacy. So the massive, massive cost of the IT infrastructure could be slashed for a start. The expectation that we all have to be registered like cattle and be grateful for it needs to go.

Insurance won’t work in the UK because the insurance companies are sharks themselves. In Europe, you insure your car and anyone can drive it. In the UK they can get out of paying out a claim for things like you were using your car for delivering charitable donations on behalf of your club, stuff the individual would never know to even think about.

JayBee
4 years ago

Masha Krylova’s piece on masks is very good, but she makes the mistake to assume that policy makers and doctors do not know all this.
They do know it, but pursue mask mandates deliberately and for other purposes, whilst even the better doctors are now so corrupted and invested in it, that they just have no other choice anymore than to stick with it.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Andrew Marr had Covid last week and back at work this week.
SERIOUS ILLNESS, THEN?

Annie
4 years ago

Working from under the bed?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Some work,some bed!

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Re: Dr Christian

I was unhappy to say the least, after reading the initial account here of the treatment of Dr Christian.

Following the link this morning, to the Off Guardian article, and listening to the audio clip of the ‘meeting’, I am sick to my stomach. My vocabulary is out of the window; I am just in overriding, pure emotional mode – I am left only with … Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkk.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Let me say, even if SARS-CoV-2 were so deadly that it pretty much wiped out the human race, I sincerely believe that the deranged thinking/behaviour infecting humanity – as demonstrated in the example of the attitude towards, and treatment of, Dr Christian – is actually pure malevolence (unlike a virus). If left unchecked, the potential ruin of humanity from this derangement would be infinitely more of a loss than the ruination of humanity by any virus.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

“… infinitely more of a loss …”. By that, I mean in terms of regret/waste/disappointment etc.

Catee
4 years ago

Havin listened to the audio I completely agree with your sentiments, wouldn’t Dr Christian make a great leader of the WHO?

Catee
4 years ago

It is a masterclass in how to get your point of view over while retaining your dignity and integrity.
I wish I had an ounce of Dr Christians self control.

RickH
4 years ago

Faced with increasing numbers of Covid cases, Israeli health officials are considering re-imposing the requirement to wear masks outdoors, according to the Times of Israel, and requiring non-vaccinated people to provide a negative test result before entering certain venues”

The interesting aspect of this is the confirmation that ‘vaccinations’ are useless, given the disaster that is Israel’s manic deployment of them.

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I don’t know what the latest ‘science’ is, but they only claim the vaccines reduce symptoms a bit. So if you concentrate on cases, vaccines have no effect – apart from making ill people go out and about rather than lying in bed.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

And your last point suggests that it could have a negative effect, if ill people don’t realise the risk to a third party being out and about before they recover.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I can’t work out whether the “vaccines” don’t work or whether the “cases” data is rubbish. Probably both. The Zoe data, admittedly based on self-reporting and now quoting sneezing and runny nose as symptoms of covid, shows more “cases” now than at the same point last year – and last year we had no vaccines and year’s less immunity through exposure. A cynic might conclude that the intention was to have such unclear data as to enable this madness to continue forever simply by manipulating the data used as an excuse for whatever stupid measures they feel like implementing.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Both you and Steve highlight valid aspects of this.

My interpretation is that the vaccines don’t work, other than having some short-term ameliorative effect – which was never the boast. And Ivermectin seems a safer bet at doing that job.

The incidence of adverse events was more than even I expected, although direct comparison is difficult because of the massive number of jabs is so high. But just personal knowledge puts it way above most vaccines. Even though the majority of these may disappear in the short term, the number and relative severity suggest reactions that are well beyond the norm.

Then there’s the odd post-introduction climb in mortality amongst the vulnerable.

… and there’s the killer data. Although absolute risk reduction is but one measure, it is a very important omission from most reporting – an omission that usually betrays double-dealing.

And that ‘hidden’ data is very telling : ~1% ARR. – minute real world effectiveness.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Indeed
When vaccines were first mooted I was open to having one if it looked worthwhile but with every passing day I am less convinced rather than more
Glad my immediate family have chosen to wait too

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You’re right. I took the same view when it was offered, and am glad I said no, for the time being – back in March.

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I would have expected the vaccines to increase transmission by suppressing symptoms

not sure how they work for preventing deaths and hospitalisations. it gets confused with newer less dangerous strains at the same time. as we have discussed before, the delta variant seems almost completely benign based on Indian stats where there have been few vaccinations.

ThomasPelham
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Presumably there is something to the varients being a bit more transmissable – and possibly adaption of the indian varient to heat?

I doubt the rule of 6 is actually doing anything to slow it down though, after all it did nothing in September.

In any case, either a) the vaccinations work to a degree, and the people who are going to die from this have already had their best shot (so to speak) and waiting another 3 weeks will do absolutly nothing, because healthy 50-65 year olds are not going to fill up hospitals. Or. b) the vaccinations don’t work well. In which case what is waiting to vaccinate people actually achieving?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

Indeed. And the actions of our government and other bodies do nothing to remove the confusion, in fact quite the opposite.

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

I would expect a virus to evolve to make you sneeze and cough in humid temperate climates. The aerosols will hang around in the damp. They won’t in hot sunny countries. I would expect a succesfull variant in a hot country to make your nose run – so you wipe it and pass it to other people by shaking hands (which there is a lot of in India!)

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I think you’re right about the local environment, But I don’t think we can be infected by shaking hands directly; mainly by breathing contaminated air. I don’t there are any cells in our hands that the virus can invade.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

Presumably there is something to the varients being a bit more transmissable – and possibly adaption of the indian varient to heat?

There is a concern that the mutations in some of the variants are concentrated around the spike protein which may make the vaccines less effective.

Luc Montagnier (Nobel Laureate for HIV discovery) and others claim that the vaccines are driving the variants.

Bill314
Bill314
4 years ago

“Almost 600m NHS home Covid tests unaccounted for, auditors reveal” If they’re scratching their heads wondering why so few results have been recorded, I’d recommend they look at the design of their website. My body has been fighting some sort of bug for the past two weeks, with mild symptoms, so I ordered a test kit. Their response was fast and efficient (the kit arrived the next day), but their website for reporting the results is a mess. If I had designed it, one of the first questions I’d ask would be: ‘What was the result of your test?’. But they never got round to asking that one. I had to answer lots of others included ‘what is your mobile phone number?’. I have a mobile phone, but I don’t use it for comms so the site wouldn’t let me continue. I continue to do the tests though. Seemingly the kit has a reputation for false negatives, but after four negatives in two weeks I’m beginning to think maybe it’s not Covid. Also, as I recall, I didn’t immediately report the first result because I didn’t realise that negatives have to be reported. If they were to state that explicitly… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago

The cited articles in Round Up have been a bit thin in content over the last week (a bit too much blather about Handoncock), but this one is worth a read :

It doesn’t cover anything new, but is a good, thorough, summary re.the effects of masks, and, in particular, their detrimental effects.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Stephen Pollard is disgusting, fully approving of totalitarianism.

Hancockwomble’s totalitarianism is why he had to go.

D B
D B
4 years ago

The Times article declaring Matt Hancock was dealing only with a gmail account not the secure DHSC account is damning, can see this having legs if the right prosecutors get hold of it. He should be forced out of office as an MP and tried under the law.

Emmerich
4 years ago
Reply to  D B

Isn’t this basically what they complained about Hillary Clinton doing?

oliness
oliness
4 years ago

Janet Daley’s article points to something I’ve noticed: lockdown filled a void, the void being a lack of community. Even though people are physically apart in lockdown, mentally they were brought together. Covid fear brought a kind of group bonding that’s lacking in modern countries. Small tribes and closed religious communities have that sense of everyone being together, and life has meaning in the community – meaning which is harder to find in individualist societies. You find a brief period of bonding in big events like the World Cup or a Royal wedding – everyone comes together to celebrate. With covid everyone came together in a way they hadn’t in many countries since WW2 (and perhaps last did in Britain during the Falklands War). A return to normal to some people means a return to anonymity, with no cause to get behind. Rituals like hand-washing, mask-wearing, staying 2m apart, are similar to rules in traditional communities like Haredi Jews. Those rituals for ultra-Orthodox communities give life a sacred meaning: I’m not just having a lazy Saturday, I’m honouring the Sabbath just as the Creator did in the beginning. That sense of sacredness and life having a purpose is very difficult… Read more »