“Great Hope” We Could Unlock on July 5th, Says Vaccine Expert – But Will Boris Follow the Data?
When delaying the easing of lockdown restrictions in England last Monday, the Prime Minister signalled that the extension was far more likely to last for four weeks (at least) than two. But Brendan Wren, Professor of Vaccinology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, says the data shows there is “great hope” that “Freedom Day” could occur on July 5th rather than a fortnight later.
He pins this hope to the successful vaccine roll-out, noting also that mass testing probably gives a false impression of the number of actual Covid carriers in the country – and, of course, of the number of people in hospital because of the virus. Sky News has more.
[Professor] Wren… said that having more than 81% of the adult population with a first coronavirus jab, and 59% with both doses is “very encouraging”.
Asked whether the success of the vaccine programme means England will not need to wait until July 19th to fully open up, he said: “We’d still need to be vigilant – but vigilance and vaccination are the two words.
“So, I think if the numbers continue to be promising then I think there’s great hope we could open up on July 5th.” …
Official figures show the U.K. has recorded more than 10,000 daily Covid cases for three consecutive days.
But Professor Wren explained that the rise in cases seems to be “flattening off”, saying: “If you are testing and tracing more, then you are going to find more cases… but if you look at the population as a general cross-section, then the actual numbers – proportion-wise – might be less.”
The expert said the number of people in hospital with Covid and “certainly the severe cases” have “not crept up in line” with the number of infections.
“There’s clear evidence here that the vaccinations – certainly in the older populations – are working,” he added.
“Although the number of cases may increase, the number of hospitalisations, or deaths, or expected deaths, is not increasing in line with the previous waves.”
And asked whether the U.K. is experiencing a third wave of the pandemic, Professor Wren said: “I don’t think particularly. We expected that there would be an increase as we gradually opened up but I wouldn’t call this a third wave.”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Others, including those who are closer to the Government, are more pessimistic. SAGE member Professor Calum Semple says we should expect a fourth wave in the winter due to the easing of lockdown restrictions.
Stop Press 2: A reader spotted a good letter in the Sunday Telegraph.
SIR – What is going on?
On June 23 last year the average number of daily Covid-19 deaths in the previous week was 59, with 353 hospital admissions. On that day the Government announced that restrictions on our freedoms would be eased on July 4.
This year the average number of daily Covid-19 deaths in the first week of June was seven, with 144 hospital admissions.
In contrast to last year, those at high risk have been vaccinated. Yet at the beginning of the week, the Government announced its intention to continue restricting our freedom for at least another five weeks.
Where is the logic? Will restrictions ever end? This disease is endemic. We should stop testing asymptomatic people, accept that “zero Covid” is not achievable and get on with our lives.
Dr Geoffrey Maidment
Farnham Royal, Buckinghamshire
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even the governments crooked statistics show we aren’t in a ‘wave’
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
even the minute numbers above are people going to hospital for broken legs and then just testing positive (falsely or otherwise)
False positive test for a broken leg.
It was a wooden leg.
Only splinters.
lol
I keep testing positive for asymptomatic long covid
symptoms are going about my normal life and ignoring anything anybody in authority has said since march 2020
Who the fuck is ‘Boris’?
Do you mean the Pig Dictator
Kim Jong Johnson
I favour ‘Fattaturk’, myself.
Professor Semple accurately predicted 18 of the last 2 waves.
It’s important that Wren is a vaccine researcher and not a modeller, behavioural scientist or public health “specialist”. We have heard from every plague bell-ringing public health panic merchant in these professions. Now an adult with real expertise is in the room. It looks like Hancock was economical with the data on vaccine efficacy so Wren and his like might get a hearing if the innumerate and data incurious Johnson thinks he was bounced. Maybe July 3rd could be the day.
How about splitting the difference and making it July 4th? Hey, what do you know: that’s Independence Day!
Hope you’re right, Covidonian.
Dungford will keep the Welsheeples locked up regardless. But there are ways to circumvent at least part of the Dungheap.
I’m wary of any professor who is employed by the LSHTM as their research is largely funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants?q=London%20School%20of
Yes, it’s another university run by Sauron.
Anything, absolutely Anything emanating from LSHTM has to be inverted.
It’s a bloody lie production factory.
A vaccine researcher is no better than the rest. They have a vested interest in backing vaccines rather than seeking the truth.
It seems to me it’s once again all part of the ‘good cop, bad cop’ agenda. Giving the impression that even government advisers, or those professionally close to them, have different views leads the public to a misguided belief that different opinions are genuinely up for debate. So when the most draconian approach is adopted (which was intended right from the outset) the naive and unsuspecting inference is that it must have been chosen for good reason.
Yes, I noticed the vaccine expert, whilst bumming up the efficacy of the vaccines, did not say that the ‘pandemic’ is now no more.
Perhaps that statement could affect sales…
“including those who are closer to the Government”
We can all see this. There is an inner clique of committee scientists who have the correct beliefs and priorities, to whom the government listens because it only wants to hear what it wants to hear. The rest are just screaming in outer space. There’ll be no reopening on July 5 or 19. The might be a couple of weeks of false dawn, then they’ll slam it all shut again.
LSHTM. Shill.
Another pro-Pharma shill being dutifully promoted by LDS, along with the rest of them. So, once again, as has been the plan all along, we can’t get out of lockdown till we surrender to illegal, unnecessary, deadly experimental gene therapy.
Very encouraging indeed for propagating a vaxx addicted serf race. C19 was never any more danger to healthy people than the flu. Vaxx, on the other hand….
Sickening stuff.
Totally agree.
The only case this website you be making and promoting is those who are saying we should be out of lockdown now and should never have been in it. The evidence is clear and plain but the lies go on.
Lockdowns, masks and as we will probably see vaccines, do absolutely nothing apart from threaten and hurt the populous both physically and psychologically. That is the only case that should be made because that is where the evidence is.
Anything less is simply endorsing the narrative and by proxy endorsing the harms and injuries that have resulted from the govt’s war on the people that began in March 2020.
‘Vigilance and vaccination’ – there is a third word which we can all look forward to when dealing with the shills – vengeance!
It seems to me that there are 2 types of people in this country, those who want to be locked down forever, wear face nappies 24/7,/sanitize everything 20 times a day and treat anybody who rejects this ridiculous ideology/ quasi religion as heretics. And us.
The acid test will be when the vast majority of the population is double vaccinated; if the government denies us then and people accept it; then and only then, I will give up the struggle.
With strong correlation across covidbollocks, climate alarmism and race/gender wokeism.
“The acid test will be when the vast majority of the population is double vaccinated”
You’d think.
Wind the clock back six months and try this phrase: “The acid test will be when the vast majority of the vulnerable is double vaccinated”. What happened after that?
Variants, boosters, other viruses:
“Professor Calum Semple, member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), which advises the Government, told Times Radio: “I suspect we’ll have a pretty miserable winter because the other respiratory viruses are going to come back and bite us quite hard.
“We are going to see a rise in a disease called bronchiolitis, and a rise in community acquired pneumonia in children and in the frail elderly, to the other respiratory viruses for which we don’t have vaccines.””
See the scope creep – in case covid doesn’t give them enough to work with, extend the same madness to every disease they can use lockdowns and vaccinations to pretend to control.
Well said.
We won’t hold our collective breath.
Exactly.
I Refuse to give up.
And after three heart attacks Death will be sooner rather than later so as each day goes by my position hardens.
I’m on my way out so Fuck ’em.
Please stick around.
This battle needs all of us. Speaking out, challenging the “narrative”. Pointing out that the Emperor is stark bollock naked.
All the best!
All your replies have cheered me up!
ON WITH THE FIGHT!!!
Hang in there, bud, hang in. All the best to you.
Yep- it’s like ‘Life of Brian’ – ‘An unbeliever! Persecute! Kill the Heretic!’ sadly what was once parody is now reality.
You will never, ever be alone.
Never, ever consent.
Many thanks.
And this is why I always saw the vaccines as a bad thing, even if you disregard the inevitable negative effects they will have. Even if these vaccines were unprecedented in having no harmful medical effects whatsoever, what they have done is provided the panickers with a get out, with an alternative narrative to admitting the reality that they panicked and supported all the harms and costs of lockdown without justification. They can and will argue that the panic responses “saved us until the vaccines came along to rescue us”. Rather than being forced to confront the reality that without lockdowns and all the rest of the panic responses we would now be in virtually the same position as we are today, covid-wise, they can pretend to themselves that without the vaccines we would still be facing a huge covid threat. And by the way, for those who are open minded on the vaccines, these DarkHorse Podcast clips are excellent: Informed consent and reproductive toxicity of vaccines (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein) This one is a good discussion of the underlying ethics. Malone (towards the end) gives some reassurance to those of us facing the establishment blanking and gaslighting… Read more »
Couple more good ones, for those who might have missed them:
Pfizer data REVEAL – Where do the lipid nanoparticles collect? (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret W)
“Spike protein is very dangerous, it’s cytotoxic” • Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA Vaccine
(And consider this latter in conjunction with this confirmation from Malone: “All three vaccines in the UK are based on gene therapy technology and are producing spike protein in cells”.)
And another:
Censored? Inventor MRNA Vaccines Dr Robert Malone Serious concerns Covid Vaccine. Weinstein Kirsch.
Dr Robert Malone: “For me, the thing that’s alarming is that there’s no alarm”.
Good links and points. Thanks
I couldn’t get past an hour (of the full version) – the one in the blue shirt was annoying me too much
Yes, he’s a bit adhd. But that’s why the 10-20 minute clips are probably better than the whole thing. Lot of great info there, and Malone has huge credibility imo.
Two things,
we have the ‘inventor’ of the mRNA vaccine worried about the vaccine.
we have the inventor of the PCR test saying it can’t diagnose a disease and being pretty damning about Fauci.
Remind me again why we should believe what the Tyrants say?
And have you noticed nobody, and I mean nobody says the success of the vaccines, ALWAYS the success of the vaccine rollout, not the same are they?
Steve Kirsch makes some good points, but he isn’t interested in listening to anyone else and I thought he was probably half-pissed. You have here Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine process, who is clearly very concerned about the Covid vaccine adverse events, but the boorish Kirsch never really lets him get going. Malone is for the most part reduced to making one liners, what an appalling waste.
Fwiw, a comment under one of the vids does say:
“(to Steve’s credit he later posted an apology for his over anxious behaviour)“
I think everybody has accepted that the UK death rate is now very low and that covid deaths are not a factor. So really in so far as data has any relevance in this I guess it is hospital data that is important to determine whether all these dodgy case/test numbers are of any significance or whether we are just measuring how many people have hay fever- summer cold.
As far as I am aware we are dependent on the Gov/NHS dashboard for hospital data;
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
and whilst some of that data is updated quite quickly there tends to be a delay in updating the figure for total patients in hospital especially at weekends. Anyway the latest figure on that dashboard indicate 1316 ‘covid’ patients in UK NHS hospitals. For the UK this is a small number and indicates that all the thousands of cases (dodgy test results) announced everyday amount to little more than counting how many people in the UK have a hay-fever – summer cold.
What will it take to bring this reality to the fore and bring this nonsensical hoo-haa to an end?
What will it take to bring this reality to the fore and bring this nonsensical hoo-haa to an end?
It seems that first they want the death of practically all of us. After that things can get back to normal.
Of course they won’t let it happen – not when they’re saying stuff like this:-
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/20/under-18s-could-be-reservoirs-for-virus-when-all-adults-are-jabbed-expert-warns
Quite clearly can’t let us out until all children are stabbed too.
Just add it to the evidence for the prosecution when the Graun is duly hauled in front tof the post C19 Nuremberg II trials along with all government ministers, bought and paid ‘experts’, compliant jab-a-tenner medics, MPs, BBC, Independent and all other Big-Pharma propagandists.
Many professionals are already U-turning, and desperately attempting to place themselves on the right side of history.
Then the difficult (and expensive) bit starts, how to wean the jabbed off this muck and try and restore at least some of their wrecked immune systems (now vaxx dependent) that will otherwise never be the same again.
Semple-“Calling it the “fourth wave winter”, he told Times Radio “there’s a sting in the tail after every pandemic” because social distancing will have reduced people’s exposure to usual endemic respiratory viruses such as pneumonia and bronchiolitis”
Of course, it’s not just social distancing that’s stuffed natural immunities, but also the crap mask wearing. In other words, this “expert” tells us that lockdowns and the rest have screwed us for other diseases which we might expect to weather. The whole thing is a self-perpetuating problem, a deadly embrace.
No hope whatsoever because the Branch Covidian communist doomsday cultist party specialises destroying hope.
Err….??.?
“It turns out, we were wrong, they were right and all of those people who were VACCINE HESITANT ARE now looking really REALLY SMART.”
Best get used to that……
For fuck’s sake stop calling him Boris. It’s a stage name. He is the Prime Minister of the UK who has been waging physchological and other forms of warfare on the people he was elected to server, for the last 18 months. He is a traitor, he is the enemy.
We’ve been saying it for months here with no sign atl of any intention of responding.
He doesn’t deserve the title of PM, so I won’t honour him with that either. He does deserve to be ridiculed & lampooned in the biggest way possible.
“Professor Calum Semple says we should expect a “fourth wave winter” due to the easing of lockdown restrictions.” FFS we haven’t had a 3rd wave yet, just bleating about “cases”. It’s Summer. It’s sniffles. The only people dying are the people at the end of their expected stint. Jeez.
Semple is one of the criminal puppets.
I recall him lying his face off about “uncertainty whether infection left us immune”.
His tutor? Ivan Roitt, author of the multi decade set text, “Essential Immunology”.
Liar.
Criminal.
Thank you Dr Yeadon
Boris? Is this guy the one that decides or do the other 500 PMs also “follow the data”?
The secretary of our club is arranging a meeting.
On 20 July.
On Zoom.
Zoom, along with masks, staying apart, elbow bumping, is something We Should All Stop Doing.
I have not done any of it. From Day One. Never will.
Fuck ’em.
FFS.
Well, don’t apologise for not using it. Perhaps they bought shares in it? Only asking.
We’re having a meeting too, but we’re meeting in person. Partly because half the group don’t do Zoom & partly because we want to meet up again!
Read the Uni Duisburg-Essen study on testing and stop it, for good and chrissake!
Otherwise, there will always be multiple waves of the rebadged flus and multiple lockdowns each year, until the money has finally run out, then signified by a bog roll costing a £100billion.
The NHS will always be overwhelmed in Fall, Winter and Spring. That and its management incompetence and its doctors lazyness is a British character trait by now, like not taking responsibility for ones own decisions and mistakes, internationally known as the ‘wrong kind of leaves’ syndrom.
Gosh thought this was ending tomorrow, sent a muzzle to Mr Johnson
Johnson is basically sitting on the fence. We are free, no one asks you to wear a mask, stand in line, unless you’re daft enough to line up to be jabbed, but it looks for all intents and purposes as if the lockdown is still a thing, appeasing the bedwetters. Sage are doing their thing and terrifying the gullible while the rest are doing their thing and ignoring it
Sitting on the fence?
No, he is the commander in chief of the enemy
Yes you can self exempt yourself from wearing a mask but you can’t unclose businesses forced to shut on pain of massive fines
Try travelling abroad without doing a test
Try finding friends and family who are happy to break the rules with you
Exactly. It’s fine to say ‘ignore it all’ if all the cafes, restaurants,pubs and businesses you used prior to March 2020 were also ‘ignoring it all’, and your friends and relatives were ‘ignoring it all’ too. But they’re not. In my case, 2 friends are now behaving normally, everyone else has drunk varying amounts of the kool aid. They range from being careful and unquestioning through to panicky and (almost) hostile at the suggestion of behaving as we used to do. We don’t have a wide circle of friends or many relatives so the impact feels greater.
Now add in the fact that they’ve all been jabbed and we haven’t and won’t…
Friendships can also falter on the use of the NHS app. Why people want it on their phones is a mystery…Big Brother in your pocket. If a ‘friend’ is signed up and they get notification of a contact with another individual who has tested ‘positive’ with one of the dodgy tests and you were together, then said ‘friend’ could feel obliged to give your details. The Test, Track, Trace is nothing but a dragnet.
Try this: https://hack-and-trace.me/
And block the numbers: 0300 013 5000 and 0300 123 7790 are the ones I have noted
Yes, life is very different now, more isolated. We’ve needed to adapt, try to find new friends and different places to go but depending on where you live it’s not easy. Very rule-following where I am.
Professor Wren ‘vaccine expert’, I have two words for you and the second one is off!
Are they trying to make out that this guy is some sort of rebel?!! A f**king vaccine expert!! He’s probably one of the evil scumbags pushing for children to get jabbed. I don’t want to hear anything this piece of crap has to say!
Don’t they talk a load of BS
Dear Dr. Maidment, great letter by the way. The answer is simple: it’s not about managing a disease, it’s about controlling us. The great power grab of 2020-21 is well under way- and succeeding!
Has to be noted there could be a slight ideological split in the Lockdownist camp. London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine is, I believe, the leading proponent of Big Pharma values in the UK. They host the “Vaccine Centre” – a rather shadowy entity – that has as its mission statement the wish to use whole population vaccines against all communicable diseases. Of course no one knows what effect this would have on the natural immunity bequeathed to us by evolution over billions of years. They don’t care since they don’t even mention it as an issue. But, clearly, it would mean (literally) trillions of dollars of revenue for Big Pharma. So I am not surprised to see LSHTM offering a more positive take on moving out of lockdown. They will want it for PR reasons – so that the “victory over the virus” can be claimed by vaccination. Imperial College, while supporting vaccination and certainly being allied to Big Pharma, nevertheless has a slightly different take I feel. They are far more political and globalist in outlook. They seem to be part of the WEF/Davos agenda which really sees lockdowns as a good in themselves. So while they… Read more »
Just a question that someone may know the answer or may have already supplied such. In the early day the figure of deaths was for persons who died within 28 days of a test, and then they were mainly within care homes. Now presumably there are still deaths in care homes but are they not been tested as regular otherwise the deaths would be higher than now shown ?
Are care home residents not been tested at all, now ?
Thank you for speaking up Dr Maidment. You ask where is the logic, sadly there is none — This is a power grab and the shocking way the government and MSM are trying to coerce and blackmail the YOUNG and CHILDREN into taking this experimental drug that is still in trials is EVIL beyond words — and is causing both injury and deaths — which despite best efforts of the Government and MSM to hide are starting to trickle through. This is against the Nuremberg Code -Shame on them all …