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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Protect children’s rights to decline the jab”.

Disgusting that they’re even talking about this. How many teachers have died after being infected by their pupils? Witless has no business to suggest anything of the sort given the obvious risk of “vaccines” and lack of risk to children from Covid. Pure evil.

No healthy child has died from Covid. Not one. Mr Whitty, it would be criminal to force this through and you would have blood on your hands.

Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And plenty of younger people have died due to the vaccine. It’s all downside. Is this designed to create a new generation which routinely gets a vaccine and then ‘booster’ each year. Businesses like a steady, predictable income stream. Pandemics are good for pharma but they are unpredictable.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

To think that Us for Them was initially worried about kids having to wear masks to school with all the attendant harms that they cause – bet they never thought it would come to this – the prospect of a child being excluded from being educated because it hasn’t been vaccinated. Surely this has to be the point where people begin to wake up and see that this country has reached the point of no return?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Vaccines to become mandatory for care home staff”..

This is evll, illegal and must be stopped. What chance the rest of us if they start “no jab no job” for care home and other health workers? Forcing dedicated caring staff out of their jobs for not taking part in experimental drugs trials – at huge cost to them, and with disastrous results for those who will lose their care – is criminal, surely a crime against humanity. This must be stopped.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Turn it around to think of why this might seem a good plan if you have evil intent. Takes out 1.5 million people in one fell swoop, over the next couple of years, so plausibly deniable. Those people self classified as not being terribly useful, as all they do is prolong the lives of other useless eaters. Win-win, if you are a eugenicist.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

You beat me to it TA.

Apologies, I hadn’t read your post.

ScepticSteve
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

And how long before they make it mandatory for supermarket workers, delivery drivers, and office workers? It almost beggars belief that anyone could still think this is about a virus rather than an agenda of depopulation and enslavement.

Julia Hartley-Brewer had the gall to suggest that those opposed to the shots are ignorant because they get their information from Facebook and their mates instead of the government.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

Does she realise that the government are taking advice from people from ICL, who are linked to an extreme communist dictatorship and “depopulation” Bill?

I mean, had she lived in 1940, would she have called people ignorant because they weren’t getting their information from someone advised by Lord Haw Haw?

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

Information from feckin’ facebook, my arse. Love it when decades of experience in science and engineering is dismissed with a glib put down. But because of that knowledge, I know to be very wary of many medical interventions.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ScepticSteve

That’s a bit of a screwy argument, given that anti-social media is censoring truthful analysis! (see my earlier post about the You Tube censorship of the Hodgkinson/Brees interview)

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It’s a win win for the globalists. If thousands of care workers resign then an industry collapses and the lives of those needing care are shortened.

If they all accept the jabs the industry still collapses as the injections make them poorly or kills, and they spread infection among those they care for.

Win Win – the evil bastards.

Brett_McS
4 years ago

The real world is making life difficult for the Babylon Bee satire site. Especially the last sentence, which is pure straight news.

https://babylonbee.com/news/people-who-ruined-worlds-economies-gather-to-discuss-how-to-fix-worlds-economies

baboon
4 years ago

Cases start to fall in Covid hotspot Blackburn” – Department of Health data show that cases appear to have started levelling off or falling in the four areas that were first hit by the Indian ‘Delta’ variant outbreaks, according to MailOnline

I read the news today, oh boy
Four thousand cases in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the cases were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many twats it takes to fill the Albert Hall

I’d love to turn you on

baboon
4 years ago

Dr. Peter McCullough with Reiner Fuellmich” – Dr. Peter McCullough joins Reiner Fuellmich on the Stiftung Corona Ausschuss to discuss early treatment, vaccines, and the broader implications of COVID-19

Keep up Toby, your comments section posted this days ago.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Indonesia, care homes, forced injections.

Sounds like crimes against humanity to me

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not “sounds like” – “are”

Hopeless
4 years ago

After reading today’s news roundup, I fell to pondering the chronology of this train crash period. Relative to the Second World War, we’ve been through the Phoney War, Dunkirk, the Battle of Britain and the start of the German bombing of Britain. Poised on the brink of 1941, we can look forward, among other things, to the North African campaigns of victory and defeat, the intensification of the Holocaust and war with Japan.

Though beer was weaker and in short supply, unbombed pubs were fully open, and masks (gas, civilians, for the use of) remained unused in their cases.

Of course, we had a real Churchill in command, rather than today’s weak ersatz version.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

if that. I suppose this “war” is winnable? ww2 almost sounds tempting compared tp the last 18 months…

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Good job they never used the masks. If the gas didn’t get ’em, the asbestos in the mask would. Dodgy PPE…

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

Good job I didn’t spend too much time when a small boy, playing at soldiers in my father’s tin hat and respirator!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

we’ve been through …” etc.

No we haven’t. The equivalent would be Chamberlain waving a piece of paper and the crowds cheering a truce on the basis of the Wehrmacht landing next day with no opposition.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago

For all those couples tearing their hair over the need for a risk assessment

Hazard – catching or transmitting disease.

Disease classified as low consequence infectious disease by WHO.

Mitigation – no additional mitigations required

Would take a few minutes to rehash one of the usual templates for risk, probability etc, with references…..

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

It will be mandatory for all care home staff to be vaccinated.
Result: Staff will leave
Result:Residents will die because of lack of care (see above).
Total results: Another brilliant decision by “Experts”.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

A “lockdown dividend” for genocidal eugenicists?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

NUFF SAID!

Margaret
4 years ago

Isn’t this similar to what happened in Northern Italy last year according to Swiss Policy research? Large numbers of Eastern European nurses fled the country before lockdown leaving the elderly to fend for themselves. They were taken to hospitals where they died.

I tried to find the report on the Canadian nursing home where staff had abandoned the residents and so many had died as a result, but it is behind a paywall.

Unfortunately too, the vast majority of the care staff and the nursing staff who cared for my m-i-l would be classed as morbidly obese, so not in the best of health to start with. When healthy young men are being damaged by the vaccines, it doesn’t look good for the less healthy.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Lot of nurses (not all) are big “fatties”.

zoe
zoe
4 years ago

Pfizer supply shortage forces Covid vaccine roll-out to slow down” 

That reminds one of the Whitehall leak back in April. Just replace SA with Delta. This is the relevant part:

The final milestone is due on June 21st where ALL restrictions were promised to be lifted. This will not be allowed to happen. Vaccine passports / Track and Trace will be mandatory, as will masks and social distancing. The entire week of the 21st will be taken up by a third wave, which will suddenly be ‘rampant’, and this will be attributed to the South African variant which was now officially more deadly than what we have had previously. This will be accompanied with yet more issues with vaccine supplies. One of the vaccines will be said to be effective against the SA strain, but a ‘problem’ with its manufacture will emerge.”

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  zoe

There’s a Moscow variant now, yippeeeee, a beast from the East!!!!!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

There goes 19 july

Adamb
4 years ago

Re Jeffery Tucker article: surprised he feels so confident it’s ‘mission accomplished’. I suppose the picture is a lot rosier in the US than it is here.

Marmalade
4 years ago

I don’t see how compulsory vaccines for care and NHS staff can be legal. It’ll be interesting to see the law once it’s published. Maybe there will be a loophole.

Plenty of loopholes in the existing COVID legislation.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

Doubt there will be any loopholes. Muzzle legislation was a side show, 100% jabbing (except for the elite) is a core aim. A control group will not be tolerated when the deaths begin.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

What do you mean begin?

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Fair point. Let’s use their terminology then – “begin to spike exponentially”.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I fear we wont have to wait long, just heard a local man 42 yrs, fit and healthy dropped dead yesterday. I’m guessing the fact he’d been given the poison wikl be a coincidence.

Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Like Eric Clapton losing the use of his hands.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago

I may have identified a potential benefit of lockdown, but need some data. What happened to lice and nits? The beasties go round and round the schools, it seems to a far greater extent than when I was a kid. The long lockdowns, and louse life cycle, means that any kid with a louse would have been crawling with thousands after a few weeks, hence even the slackest parent wouldn’t fail to notice and treat. An unchecked infestation goes nuclear after about 5 weeks, revolting. Social distancing would reduce touching of heads, so no transfer to perpetuate the problem.

There’s been no letters from school for ages, so has the economic and healthcare Armageddon been successful in eradicating the louse?! Would a few nit nurses have been a bit cheaper?

But….. on the other hand, if lockdown CAN’T eradicate the louse, how can it stop a virus?

Marmalade
4 years ago

Govt: Here’s a vaccine, you don’t have to take it though, it’s voluntary.

Health worker: No thanks.

Govt: OK, but if you don’t take it, we’ll make it compulsory.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

Bodily autonomy is absolute, cannot be negotiated.

That’s why the NHS idea of “presumed consent” for anything, no matter how laudible the aim, must be resisted.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

The idea of an NHS must be resisted as it’s the camel’s nose in the tent of the state nationalising our bodies.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

It’s already been infringed upon by the mask and invasive test mandates. Those two should have been resisted and fought on that basis.
A Florida court just confirmed this reg. masks.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Quite. Compromising the necessity to breathe by veiling the nose and mouth, and using a dangerous invasive test, and coercing children, are crimes against humanity.

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

The Royal College of Nursing only recently came out against mandatory vaccination for health and social care staff.

There is still time for them to review and change their mind.

We must remember that members of the same professional body were complicit in the use of the – I think it was Warwick University -December 2020 guidelines ( aka How to be a proficient liar for dummies) to challenge any dissent or concerns the public had about the vaccine and for the vaccinators to carry on regardless.

RickH
4 years ago

Poor old Jonathan Sumption is a bit of a gullible old codger over vaccines (see Round Up – Telegraph article). But he never claimed to have a scientific grasp.

However, this last paragraph sums it up :

“How low have we fallen, when we treat a minimal risk of death as an excuse to empty life of much of its value?”

RickH
4 years ago

Note that the interview with Dr Roger Hodkinson by Anna Brees (see Conservative Woman article) has been taken down by You Tube.

The recent analysis of Monday’s government disinformation, Sridhar’s lies on News Round, and this censorship is (or should be), for any one who doubts, circumstantial proof positive of the evil intent. Science doesn’t work through censorship.

I have often argued that you don’t need detailed debate to rule out these ‘vaccines’. You need go no further than what Hodgkinson ably expresses in terms of the absurdity of their release for use :

“‘This is of course an experimental vaccine. It should never have been released. It was never an emergency which predicated the development of the vaccine. And as with all vaccines, there are complications, which were predictable, with time. But there was never enough time given for the clinical trial, which only lasted 4-6 months.”

You have to be venal or simply gullible if you can’t grasp that simple, basic scientific premise.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

I hope unvaccinated Care Home workers just walk.

If I was one i’d be looking for alternative employment and getting out of Dodge asap.

I’m lucky in that only one of my kids is still in school and only has one more year to go. If it comes to it we’ll just take her out of school altogether. Already had one barny with the school Komissar regards masks lol.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Absolutely agree, my grandchildren are in primary school. Their parents plan to remove them the moment they start vaccinating children as they no longer have any trust in schools to act in the best interests of the children in their care. I will be giving up my ‘retirement’ to enable them to keep their jobs and while happy to do so I will be angry that it has been necessary.

RickH
4 years ago

Of course, in a sane world, the egregious nature of the data manipulation in government briefings, plus the constant use of crap modelling, should have led to the dismissal of Whitty, Vallance and Van Tam long ago – simply on grounds of incometence.

The fact that they (and SAGE) still stand makes it pretty obvious that this ain’t anywhere near a search for ‘the science’.

Catee
4 years ago

Email received today from the Recovery Group… …. yesterday we polled Twitter users asking: “Should the BPS investigate the ethics of how psychology has been used in government’s Covid communications?” Over 5,000 people voted in just 7 hours and a staggering 97% said, yes, the BPS should investigate the ethics of how psychology has been used in government’s Covid communications. It’s hardly surprising that a large number of people have real concerns – after all, we now know actual SAGE members regret the use of fear… On 14 May, the Telegraph reported how Gavin Morgan, a psychologist on the SAGE team, had told author Laura Dodsworth that: “Clearly, using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. It’s not an ethical stance for any modern government.” The Telegraph report continued: “Another member of SAGE said they were ‘stunned by the weaponisation of behavioural psychology’ during the pandemic… ‘psychologists didn’t seem to notice when it stopped being altruistic and became manipulative. They have too much power and it intoxicates them’.” In fact concerns about the unethical use of psychological tactics were raised with the BPS in a joint letter from 47 psychologists and therapists back… Read more »

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

While I think this is a worthwhile initiative, I am afraid the damage has already been done with the manipulation and brainwashing, and in some cases sheer lying, used over the past 15 months which has succeeded in instilling massive fear into the people of the UK ,sufficient to persuade a vast majority of them to believe that they are faced with a deadly virus which is spreading everywhere via asymptomatic transmission [massive LIE as opposed to manipulation]. Based on this the bulk of the population has been double jabbed with an experimental gene therapy, the full harms of which have yet to unfold, which once done cannot be undone.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I agree, the damage is done but if it is allowed to continue without anybody questioning it then the damage will continue. If a review was completed and found that unethical practises have been used, the miscreants struck off and this was made public perhaps alot of the fear would be replaced with anger. To be be honest if people don’t soon start to be angry about what has been done to them the future of the UK as a free and democratic country will be lost forever.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I also agree “if people don’t soon start to be angry about what has been done to them the future of the UK as a free and democratic country will be lost forever.” However I don’t see how the necessary anger is going to come about as MSM – which is how the ‘publication’ part of what you propose would have to happen – will simply not publish anything which does not fit the pre-scripted narrative – and remember that they are a vital cog in the fear mongering machine as they have acted as the government’s propaganda arm from the get go. Do you really think MSM is going to want to be outed by publishing something like the review you describe. Don’t get me wrong – I would love to see it happen – I know far too many people sucked in and harmed by the fear which has been generated, but I simply don’t see it happening for the reasons I describe.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Same old institutions involved. BPS has a specific group set up for defence and security psychology. I suspect it may be short lived, however it may be better to keep this topic out in the light.