End of Lockdown Could be Delayed by at Least Two Weeks so More Over-50s Can Get Second Vaccine Dose
There has been much speculation around whether the Government will lift lockdown restrictions on June 21st. The latest reports suggest that “Freedom Day” could be delayed by at least two weeks. Even after that, it is not guaranteed that guidelines on mask-wearing and social distancing will come to an end.
Some close to the Government have attempted to justify a possible extension by explaining that this would allow time for more adults to receive their second dose of a Covid vaccine – but well over half of the adult population in the U.K. has already had two doses, with over 75% having received at least one. Health Secretary Matt Hancock seemed to suggest last month that the number of people reached by the vaccine roll-out will always fall short of the level required for a full unlock: “Our vaccination programme has reached 73% of the adult population, but that means that more than a quarter still haven’t been jabbed. 43% of adults have had both jabs [now much higher], but that means that more than half are yet to get the fullest possible protection that two jabs give.”
An announcement on the June 21st date is expected on June 14th, but the picture painted by the MailOnline this morning isn’t positive.
According to ITV News, Government sources have said that plans are being made to push the lifting of coronavirus measures back to July 5th to allow more people to get the second dose of Covid vaccinations.
“Government sources have again stressed that no decision has been made but I understand that in private other plans are being drawn up,” ITV’s Correspondent Richard Pallot said on Saturday evening.
“If there was a two-week delay then in theory all over-50s would get a chance of a second vaccine,” he added.
It was reported on Friday that secret plans were being worked on to delay the lifting of measures by two weeks in addition to retaining social distancing and limits of crowds past “Freedom Day”.
Saturday’s report comes after a Government scientist warned that pushing ahead with a full reopening later this month in England would be “foolish” and a “major risk”, which followed Covid cases jumping by 70% in a week on Saturday, reaching 5,765. However, the health chief insisted vaccines do “break the chain”.
There is currently enough evidence to say that due to the spread of the Indian variant, one of the Government’s four key tests for its road map out of lockdown has not been met, Professor Stephen Reicher said.
Multiple reports have suggested plans to lift all restrictions on June 21st could be scaled down, with social distancing and the wearing of face coverings set to continue amid concerns that the variant that originated in India, now known as Delta, is fuelling a surge in cases…
Professor Reicher, a member of the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B) which advises the Government, said the criteria about the current assessment of the risks not being fundamentally changed by new variants of concern is “not upheld”.
“I think by the Government’s own criteria it’s quite clear that it would be foolish to proceed on the data that we’ve got at the moment. The risk would be very great indeed,” the professor told the PA news agency.
“And of course it’s a balance of risks but I think it would be a major risk to go further in opening up.”
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SPI-B will ALWAYS say that its foolish to give the peasantry any freedoms. There will always be some reason not to do it.
Any pretence of a democracy is fast disappearing.
But still there are nearly one half of the population who will be too scared to do anything about it. Those who comply are becoming very dangerous to our health and our future.
Behavioral scientists and psychologists have been deeply involved in this plot against the people. It’s quite long but well worth it:
https://covidtruefacts.blogspot.com/2021/05/reiner-fuellmich-interviews-brian.html
democracy died long ago.
These cunts have no intention of letting anyone have their freedom
Yes
Piss off with the ‘Freedom Day’ nonsense. Our freedom is not Johnson’s to give. He needs to be grabbed by the scruff of his neck and reminded of this.
Well said.
Absolutely – it baffles me that people out there are waiting on his say-so to have their freedoms handed back to them by a government with a string of broken promises.
‘Freedom is not given, it is taken’ – Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose
It shocks me that so many people who usually never trust the Tories are hanging on every bloody word. We live in a town that is traditionally a mix of labour snd independents. Yet everyone is doing what the hated Tories are telling them. Where are the feisty people of yesteryear who literally ‘gallowed’ their politicians when they betrayed them in Parliament! That happened a quite a few occasions in our West Country Town.
Watching netflix and eating state funded cake
The evil always project what they want for themselves. The Globalists want the freedom of the World, to travel, traffick children, live in beautiful houses with many servants whilst they keep the slaves and serfs in the factories and fields. They just don’t need so many slaves and serfs anymore so they need to cull. This constant Utopia the far left dream of never materialises. Each time they think it is close they have to cull more and more people. Each time they think it will be successful, death and destruction, disease and poverty appear on the horizon. And yet the good never seem to do anything to end this evil and create free societies. So every century we have the same ugliness, the same evil and the same outcome. When the good learn they cannot give liberalism, multiculturalism and communism a chance to fester in their schools; when they learn that freedom, aspiration and patriotism is precious enough to nurture every day, then and only then will the good have overcome the evil. We will only achieve this by looking after our own children, working hard for our communities, keeping the fruits of our labour in our own purses… Read more »
Well said.
is that the Reicher who is a professor of psychology with research interests in; Social identity, Collective Behaviour, Intergroup Conflict, Leadership and Mobilisation
are there no scientists that know something about viruses available?
The one and the same. Another psychologist who is probably left-wing, although not as bonkers as one on Independent Sage who describes himself as left of Jeremy Corbyn.
So what exactly does he know about viruses.
There are plenty on SAGE and elsewhere who know a lot about viruses. Knowledge isn’t the problem – the problem is the lack of honesty, courage and integrity.
As my brother would say “the square root of fuck all”
Greek names for variants is a canny marketing strategy for stoking terror, but it’ll take a while until the Omega Variant is released
Exactly which is why they chose the alphabet- we know exactly how long they’re going to spin this out for.
DELTA 1, DELTA 2, DELTA 3…
So SP-B members are still engaged in creating incontinent panic – contradicting all advice about managing actual emergencies, and contrary to professional ethics.
Ergo the group is engaged in totally unacceptable behaviour. Logically, members should be stripped of professional certification.
Stop calling it Freedom Day. We already know Furlough, Track and Trace, mass testing, vaccine boosters and propaganda, and international travel restrictions will continue after whatever does or doesn’t happen in June or July, because the government have said that they will and the contracts are signed, to the tune of billions. We also know that they are considering more lockdowns in the autumn, winter etc.
There will be no true freedom. True freedom is when the folly and evil are exposed. That’s the only goal worth working towards or focusing on. Trying to nudge the PM to tweak the restrictions sooner or later to better boil the frogs is fiddling while Rome burns.
Well said Julian. The craven adherence to the Government-MSM narrative ATL is sickening.
I think they mean well but I think we need to relentlessly reframe the narrative
According to ZOE symptomatic cases are starting to increase rapidly.
The seasonality factor is starting to look pretty weak.
in the vaccinated or unvaccinated or both?
Not sure – but that data would be interesting. ZOE do seem to have a high proportion of vaccinated (or part) vaccinated contributors.
Tim Spector might be honest enough to publish that. He believes in the madness a little too much for my liking but my take on him is that he is playing with a straight bat
ZOE’s latest official report
https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/has-a-wave-started-in-the-young
“According to the incidence data, there are currently 10 times more cases in the under 40s than in the over 60s (see full graph below). “
so there is a ‘wave’ in the young who haven’t been vaccinated much. probably because they are out and about. It doesn’t tell us much about the vaccines because the people that have had it are old and are probably still cowering at home. If they are in the NHS or care homes theyve already had it
“the data highlights that the increase is happening in the younger age groups, suggesting the start of an epidemic in the young. We can’t be too complacent, and we are monitoring things closely.
The ending of lockdown is on everyone’s minds and given the current situation, I believe we should continue to soften restrictions but not lift them all just yet. While unlikely, it’s too early to tell if these increases are going to have any impact on hospital admissions or death rate.”
So all of a sudden, the younger people who up until now have barely been affected by the virus, here or anywhere else in the world, are going to get sick and end up in hospital. Maybe. Keep restrictions going until we know. Because all the young people were clearly staying isolated away from anyone else and therefore have had no previous exposure to the virus. Hmm.
Somehow, this all seems a little convenient to those wanting restrictions to continue. Forgive me for my continued scepticism.
Great news. Natural immunity spreading.
Probably because they’ve been mixing with the “vaccinated”
That’s good. Being over 40 and under 60 I’ve dodged the variants, lol
10 x what? Percentages without context is a constant theme for this shabby lot whenever there is next to no virus
It would be interesting from Zoe and also from the government NHS records.
We don’t get it though which makes me think it probably isn’t that positive for the vaccines
Can we be sure any more that ZOE’s data is valid. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been infiltrated by lots of lockdowner zealots who will be recording every hay fever sneeze and throat tickle. I know of no one who has Covid at the moment. Does anyone here know of anyone who does? Looking at their site their figures for number of cases seems to be derived from “symptoms” reported and from “swab tests”. There are a number of worrying elements to their statement on their website: The procedure to estimate daily new cases was adjusted on 24th June to account for the increasing number of antibody test results reported by our users. Too few participants in Northern Ireland to generate a good estimate. Wales & Scotland have wider confidence interval since they are not currently enhancing app data by inviting app users for testing. These figures exclude care homes as there is not enough data from the app to estimate this population. This analysis requires swab testing, which was kindly provided by the English Department of Health and Social Care. The original ZOE was all symptoms which I think was valid while the virus was spreading like wildfire.… Read more »
ZOE is used as the acceptable voice of opposition. It makes mildly questioning statements to make the sheeple think there is still debate.
My 80 year old Dad who has dementia has been contributing to the Zoe app for many months now and reports at least 8 symptoms every single day. I do wonder how many of Tim’s data monkeys are doing the same thing.
I know of only one person who has had Whu ‘flu.
Strange for a “pandemic.”
I don’t know of anyone.
I still know more people who had something suspiciously like covid before the panic set in than had official covid. I’ve heard of a few cases but no deaths and only one hospitalisation – a medical professional, who survived. I heard a nurse talking about care home residents “dropping like flies” either after the flu or covid vaccination but in the outside world nada.
Last I looked it was 89% vaccinated contributing to Zoe.
crikey Mayo, you have achieved 76 down votes – and simply for questioning/challenging the thinking – which is my understanding of what actual science is all about.
presumably your down voters have the same mentality as the ”The science” cult members who get very angry when anybody dares question their new religion.
Human nature seems to be incompatible with scientific discussion – I guess the hardest part of being a scientist is the ability to always challenge your own thinking, not defend your own theories against new evidence and be comfortable admitting you’ve got it wrong on a regular basis as things evolve
To what do you attribute the virtual disappearance of covid last summer?
no experimental vaccinations
Indeed – that’s certainly one possible explanation
And no surge testing with a massively high false positive rate. It’s funny how that seems to have been forgotten- they no longer say ‘cases’ it’s now ‘infections ‘ which sounds so much worse – they’re false positives so basically nothing.
I assumed seasonality. It’s possible that current variants are less susceptible to seasonal variation.
We can’t rule out the fact that we have screwed things up and, by interventions and vaccines, have driven variants of much greater concern.
That’s a possibility I would imagine. Sadly this won’t end because so many are bought into the idea that the human race is now so clever that we can outwit nature if only find the right magic formula of lockdowns, jabs etc.
Remember the difference in weather this year – it maybe a little early for seasonality to actually kick in.
Spring/Summer is near a month later than last year.
Our main weakness going forward is going to be our reliance on the low efficacy AstraZenica over the far far better mRNAs for most of our population.
‘Better’ mRNAs? Contradiction in terms. Experimental Gene therapy can never be termed ‘better’.
Oh do F O.
Until you can identify the age group splits in testing and also prove that these “symptomatic cases” are actually people becoming sick with C19 ( eg not hay fever ), then seasonality is still looking pretty much what this is.
Scariants aren’t required.
Hospitals in Northern Ireland are at breaking point. No Covid.
I asked my nurse sister in law what was going on. Her answer was that people are coming in with respiratory symptoms still, she put it down to people mixing again or some half explanation. She didn’t actually know but the fact it had similar symptoms maybe chimes with the Zoe data.
Respiratory viruses are seasonal. Period. However man made epidemics may well not be.
Are they of much greater concern though? They appear to be spreading more but harming less, which is kind of how viruses evolve, no? Good way to spread immunity.
I attribute it to the fact that we achieved herd immunity by summer. It was only mass testing which brought covid back.
Summer? Vitamin D?
I think evidence for seasonality is very strong. It coincides with Winter for the Northern hemisphere temperate climates
Flu seasonality is not completely understood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_season
but some of it is hypothesised to be about human behaviour – packing onto public transport, staying inside more etc when its cold
We can say for certain that human behaviour has been fucked up by the government this last year
I agree. What are your thoughts on variants being driven by vaccines. The mutations are beginning to suggest that’s a possibility.
I would expect (I’m not a virologist) for there to be evolutionary pressure for variants to change their spike protein due to the vaccines targetting the spike protein
I expect the unvaccinated to have a more generalist response
Yep – that’s my take on things.
and the worry for the vaccinators are that the % ‘efficacy’ of the vaccine goes down further for each variant – we have seen some of that so far. And that it ultimately goes -ve for some variant. This would be ADE and seen before in animal models and human trials for other vaccines.
The only way out of that is (in their opinion, not mine)
1 – more lockdown
2 – release boosters/vaccine variants with less and less testing
Remember you can also get ADE as a result of prior infection. In fact that was how it was first identified (in dengue fever.)
The evidence for Covid seasonality seems to be:
Any other evidence?
For the record, I agree that Covid will probably prove to have a seasonal pattern in the sense that there will be more cases at certain times of the year – most infectious diseases have some kind of pattern. But on the basis of one year’s experience we simply can’t deduce how strong that effect will be, how long it will typically last, or even what time of year. To take one year as evidence of a yearly pattern is absurd. To assume it will be same as flu is rash.
It’s pretty much common sense, at least for the other covids (generally called ‘common colds’ – after all, at least 25% of them are caused by C viruses). The quality of heating and ventilation seems to be a significant factor at least. Other seasonal issues are no doubt to do with light intensity and skin coverage (for manufacturing vitamin D internally), and dietary changes with the season.
Historically, over the years it has always been during the dark time of year that I caught any such thing, typically working in multi occupancy office blocks. It’s probably common knowledge, but it was not normal practice to sign ‘off sick’ just on account of something like that, so in effect, they were endemic. Might not be the case now, but I’m retired so not up to date with modern attitudes in the Human Remains department, or anything like that.
It’s pretty much common sense that lockdowns would limit the spread of the virus. Respiratory viruses spread from person to person, so if you keep people apart the virus can’t spread. But most people on this site don’t take that as an argument. They quite rightly want to see the data. Let’s hold seasonality to the same standard of evidence – and we only have one year’s data so obviously we cannot deduce an annual pattern.
Seasonality follows the pattern of human behaviour. Mess with the pattern of human behaviour and you alter the seasonality.
The virus is less transmissible in summer because we’re usually out and about doing things not locked in buildings. Respiratory viruses are aerosol transmitted. Therefore outdoors and dryness reduce the concentrations and stop transmission.
Has the vaccination programme moved outdoors?
The Zoe thing is a bit suspect. He was on GB tv saying the jabs are not a trial and the evidence shows how safe and effective they are. UK Column looked into him a while back and found that he too drinks from the infamous fountain of funding. Also found some concerns about his twins research allegedly. He’s one of them, followed and believed by the gullible.
The data is pretty reliable. Tim Spector is pro-vaccine but he as criticised government lockdown policy
Mayo,
I dont understand why your post has so many down votes. You werent saying that cases were increasing rapidly, you were just pointing out that Zoe was saying that.
I for one dont believe that the ‘second wave’ was anything other than a manufactured wave. Mass testing with false positives drove that wave along with the recategorisation of other illnesses. I never bought the ‘seasonality’ argument.
It would be interesting to know what is really going on now. As one other responder said, perhaps it has something to do with the vaccine. That is the most likely reason I can see.
So what?
That doesn’t justify the removal of freedoms indefinitely, does it?
Lockdowns don’t work and are counterproductive in the long term. This is not about a virus. This is using fear to introduce changes the climate change scam was supposed to bring forward. Climate change fear porn hasn’t worked. The PTB needed something that threatens people personally to bring these changes in, and they have got it.
Johnson and the others are enemy combatants and should be killed.
Which is why the aviation and tourist industry is being decimated on the altar of Covid to satisfy the Climate Change fascists.
“Which is why the aviation and tourist industry is being decimated on the altar of Covid to satisfy the Climate Change fascists.”
And developing countries who rely heavily upon tourism along with them, and even some Western regions, e.g., Portugal, Alaska, etc.
It’s not what i think that matters. It’s how the government responds. If the vaccines are an issue they have a big problem coming up.
What T F are you on about?
Go away.
We would do well to listen to Mayo’s points, and argue the toss with him/her/they
He’s staunchly anti-lockdown and anti-jab too IIRC
cases of what???
Is it more to do with more people getting first vax before emergency deemed over (for now) – presumably if you’ve already had first experimental jab then you don’t need emergency use authorisation for second as you are halfway through treatment?
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UK government
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/937596/vaccines-task-force-falk-group-21-oct-redacted.pdf
JCVI comments
“No long term safety data on novel formats (adeno, mRNA)”
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fullfact checking the below statement
“Have they been subject to medium or long term safety testing on humans? No”
https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-QA-graphic/
fullfact response
“This depends on how you define medium or long term. The vaccines have been trialled on humans since mid-2020, so we do have over six months of safety data for each vaccine.”
6 months=long term! Lol
I can list a lot of things that make you sick after longer than 6 months
asbestos
cigarettes
not eating 5 a day
watching the BBC
etc
Full Fact – financially supported by Soros and Gates through various obscure channels. Check that fact!
Bear in mind too that the safety data already tells us that the vaccines are not safe. On VAERS we have over 5000 deaths, in the EU over 12000 dead by late May. Officially in the UK it is over 1200. All of these figures are going to be on the low side. Vaccine injuries run into the hundreds of thousands. These vaccines are not safe.
Though it’s been six months since vaccination began, THEY’RE NOT COLLECTING ADVERSE EFFECTS DATA.
They’re doing their best NOT to report AEs & SAEs.
On Blair
1 – when he states facts they are always false
2 – when he states opinions they are always evil
That man makes my skin crawl!
A modern day Wormtongue.
Meanwhile, how’s the coming out of lockdown going in Sweden, Texas and Florida?
“At least two weeks”. = infinity. Tomorrow never comes. Goalposts move.
But also – “coming out of lockdown” – NO. As I posted earlier: “We already know Furlough, Track and Trace, mass testing, vaccine boosters and propaganda, and international travel restrictions will continue after whatever does or doesn’t happen in June or July, because the government have said that they will and the contracts are signed, to the tune of billions. We also know that they are considering more lockdowns in the autumn, winter etc.
There will be no true freedom. True freedom is when the folly and evil are exposed. That’s the only goal worth working towards or focusing on. Trying to nudge the PM to tweak the restrictions sooner or later to better boil the frogs is fiddling while Rome burns.”
Well the freedom march on June 26th just doubled in size again.
This time I hope we go by the BBC building or number 10 and throw eggs.
That’s in my diary.
Eggs or variants thereof.
😂 😂
Or large tomatoes.
Eggs? a waste of good food – grenades would be better!
Oh what a shock, who’d have thought
Maybe if most people like me, had had no furlough, no SEISS no financial help whatsoever, and been excluded through no fault of their own they would not go along with this rubbish. Facing financial ruin may make them see sense. If I sound bitter, it’s beause I am, incandescent infact.
Don’t blame you for being bitter – too many people looking out their windows thinking I’m alright jack and not looking in to the windows of others to see how many are suffering.
Blame the middle class who have been loving sat on their arses working from home or getting furloughed and hoovering up every piece of drivel The Guardian and BBC have thrown their way.
I am middle class and WFH but not to blame
There are covidians in every section of the population
I’m middle class too, and we both WFH. This has hit us hard. Husband is a contractor and spent 6 months with no work and very little financial support. We aren’t in financial trouble as we had contingency plans, but we’re well aware that others weren’t so lucky. We have friends who work in aviation, publicans, and in theatre all who might be deemed middle class and all of whom are struggling.
It’s not a class issue.
I’m afraid you are entirely correct. My gf is even grateful to the government for supporting her after they destroyed her business. Stockholm syndrome or what.
Bring back Guy Fawkes and do the job properly.
I’m 72 and in good health and I don’t consider myself vulnerable or/and at risk in the slightest.
If the sheep and collaborators of all ages want to live their lives in slavery (in all but name) they are perfectly entitled to do so but I want my life (and death) back now!!!
My sister has a close friend who is also in his early 70s and last March was in excellent health. Then he caught COVID, spent several days on a ventilator and was lucky to survive. A year later he still has trouble walking upstairs. Not much freedom for him.
I’m one of those who has Long Covid, I’m 20 years younger than that chap. I was unlucky. Why the hell should my personal situation, which is really crap, prevent someone else in good health from taking the normal risks of life?
If someone is so damned scared of living, then that is their problem for them to take responsibility for, not mine, not FP’s nor anybody else! The sheer selfishness of the Covid Cultists & Bedwetters really pisses me off!
Well said!
Thanks, BB.
It is very unfortunate for your sisters friend. Many people in their 70s and older will be fine following covid but some will not. We cannot hold back the lives of a nation of 68 million people to save a few AND people of any age must be able to decide for themselves whether they have a vaccine.
Did we save anyone? Not sure the real world evidence shows that. Quite the opposite
Thats life. Same issue could affect them with Flu.
Both my parents in that age group had COVID, both were sick for 3-4 days with mild Flu like symptoms then got better.
Thats what happens with every disease. A tiny tiny number suffer ill effects.
That’s not a justification to imprison everyone in the country including the overwhelming majority who have zero risk of severe disease.
Exactly: context! I am reminded of the old legal adage, ‘Hard cases make bad law’: you can’t (or, at least, shouldn’t!) rule society on the basis of tiny numbers of victims of anything.
So what?
By this logic we should ban cars tomorrow.
Don’t worry. That’s coming.
He certainly was lucky to survive if he’d been on a ventilator when there are considerably better treatment options available.
Ventilators killed the majority of people there were imposed upon.
They were meant to.
Exactly. It seems to me that the scramble to intubate anyone with a slight cough was responsible in no small part for the spring 2020 covideaths.
I think that depends on how ill he was. As I understand it doctors have learned to defer the ventilator longer than they thought necessary when Covid first struck but it remains the last resort.
I think we should be very wary of telling experienced consultants how to do their job.
“I think we should be very wary of telling experienced consultants how to do their job.” You make a good point, but the coronamadness has been exceptional. Consultants are not immune to groupthink and panic. I must admit I’m ignorant on the subject at hand, but I think losing some faith in the medical profession as always acting rationally is understandable.
‘Long Covid’, which has still not been fully diagnosed, is is a statistical outlier. It doesn’t mean it’s not serious for the tiny percentage affected but in no way can it be used to design or justify policies for the overwhelming majority.
And I have a friend who is back in hospital after a previous two-week stay for blood clots following the Astrazenica vaccine. My worry is that she’s going to get blood clots that kill her or cause a stroke.
Perhaps if your sister’s close friend had been given some proper treatment before getting so ill as to be on a ventilator, e.g. Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, then perhaps said friend wouldn’t still be unwell.
Lucky to survive the ventilator?
I am sorry I can’t possibly respond individually to all the replies to this comment. This will have to suffice.
I only intended the story to make two points:
I make no claims about how often this kind of case happens or whether a ventilator was the best treatment.
“One person’s freedom is often another person’s restriction.” True, though in the case of covid it’s not at all clear that restrictions have helped anyone – in fact the evidence points in the opposite directkon.
For a clinical doctor’s views on the ‘treatment’ of covid patients and how the negligent protocols have led directly to death, I recommend watching this very disturbing interview with Dr Peter McCullough. It’s long but worth watching from start to finish. What he describes has been happening worldwide in countries pushing vaccine rollouts.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KKqIFoil9WEo/
Not so. If you’re in good health & not old, it simply isn’t a health threat. Almost no one who wasn’t elderly & already ill died with let alone of Covid19.
He could have had a tick and developed Lupus. So what, he got covid. Plenty of illnesses about which make some people very ill, some people get away lightly. It’s a lottery.
Still experiencing difficulties a year after being on a ventilator for several days is common.
The 80 plus year old husband of a friend went into hospital March 2020 and was on a ventilator for an entirely unrelated problem; he caught Covid in hospital. He passed it on to his wife (similar age). He was discharged from hospital after 2 weeks and they recovered together at home. They are both absolutely fine now.
I thought you would like another anecdote to balance yours.
Very unfortunate but that’s life.
They should have given him the proven Ivermectin or HCQ/Zinc and vit D- and then he would have been just fine.
You people know that.
If they were ventilated, they were almost certainly badly treated. COVID-19 is NOT an obstructive disorder, so impacts on breathing aren’t due to inability to breathe in and out without exhaustion.
Nasal oxygen is far better & not injurious, whereas mechanical ventilation is extremely dangerous for many people. It’s used only when truly essential & comes with substantial risks.
I know someone who had “long Glandular fever” and ended up in a wheelchair
Most people get a swollen throat
That’s how viruses work
My sister in law who was 74 and had COPD died last April. She was put on a ventilator and after a couple of months taken off because there was a shortage and ‘hard decisions had to be made’. Her Covid tests were negative!
I’ve known from the beginning that it’s not more than flu as I and half the staff where I used to work had it at the end of 2019. Some people got quite ill and were off for over a week and others just had it for a couple of days – like flu it had a knock on effect (post-viral / long covid?) which was breathlessness and fatigue. No one was hospitalised. I rang my doctor’s practice to ask the reception wtf it was as so many of the staff and students (some from China / all from overseas) had had it and they were not really interested. Fast forward to March 2020 and what were the elderly dying of? End of life care – midazalan and morphine which are respiratory suppressants – might have had something to do with it. (Watch the latest video from Icke on how backdoor-euthanasia killed thousands in care homes and the preparation Hancock made for this by buying up double the usual amount of end-of-life medication and allowing do not resuscitate notices to be put on the elderly and disabled.)
I have watched and it is heart breaking. Utter cruelty
Murder even.
Yes, watch it and see how you feel about Hancock then. He’s a disgrace.
I still want someone to tell me where SARS-COV-1 went.
The virus that was even deadlier than the sequel. It just faded away without any lockdowns or vaccines.
It’s still there in the virome. It’s just that we don’t test for it. It’s like a sleeping dog. Don’t poke it with a swab and it won’t bite you!
Think of the EB Virus. Virtually everone carries it without they’re knowledge. With suitable primers in the PCR machine we could have a pandemic of asymptomatic Glandular Fever carriers.
Well done Mr Curzon, for – yet again – putting across the Government’s lying deception that there is some relationship between levels of vaccination and “lifting” of lockdown restrictions (as though those restrictions were the most natural thing in the world).
There is no relationship between the two.
There is no relationship between vaccination of children and “saving lives”.
There is no relationship between masks and stopping viral spread.
There is no relationship between the presence of vairants and the need to delay restoration of normal civil liberties.
It’s all lies. You shouldn’t be supporting their lies.
This is all about maintaining the sense of crisis and preparing the way for Digital Compliance ID.
Absolutely right.
There must be a committee of crack experts trying to work out what the next excuse will be. I no see that the Guardian, the fount of all misinformation, is touting a ‘delta’ variant. That should stop countries getting upset when they get a fake variant named after them.
A committee of crack heads more like.
I used to fly a small flag for The Guardian and nearly became a subscriber. I now despise it with an iron fist.
I was a subscriber Dobba until Katherine Viner took over as editor. Then I moved to Off-Guardian as did many other former readers. It’s very good.
https://off-guardian.org/
Thank you. I’ll take a look. 👍
Yes way back when, the Guardian was good. Now it is The Establishment and Off-Guardian has taken over the ground it used to cover.
Delta variant = Indian variant.
But they are not ‘vaccines’. It is an experimental gene treatment. I’ve had enough of this communism and I’m going to be in London on the 26th.
Likewise.
And me.
Maybe the time has come to just ‘down tools’. Stop cooperating with this corrupt communist state… The lunatics have no intention of relinquishing their grip.
I think it may be for the best
Jenrick already admitted that full restrictions wouldn’t be lifted until the whole adult population has been vaccinated.
As the entire population will not be vaccinated, because too many are refusing, then restrictions will be permanent.
Trace and trace and mass testing are not going to go away any time soon, regardless of what other restrictions may be temporarily eased
We need to stop thinking about the lifting of this or that restriction as some kind of end point. The end point is the comprehensive discrediting of the coronamadness narrative – that’s the goal we need to work towards, slowly and patiently (you can be impatient if you want – and I am impatient, I admit – but it will just drive you mad and you may crack, which is no good for us)/
It would help a lot if those who understand we are being lied to withdrew cooperation, politely but firmly. If you’ve to do X in order to do Y, don’t do Y. It won’t take long. But if we all continue to cooperate, I assure you: this will NEVER go away. It’s long ago ceased being a natural phenomenon. It won’t end spontaneously.
It’s not just X and Y though Mike. We need to stop playing their game completely. Recycling? Paying our taxes? Whatever we can do to rebel, we should do it.
Yes, I think that’s right.
Civil disobedience now.
Jenrick appears not to know we were beyond the herd immunity threshold BEFORE vaccination started.
It’s certain that only a minority needed to be vaccinated- even if we were being told the truth – in order that a lethal epidemic could no longer be possible.
So you may be sure that he, too, is LYING TO US ALL.
Freedom day is set.
Take it.
Stuff them.
Note he is on SPI-B whose brief is – ‘ SPI-B provides advice aimed at anticipating and helping people adhere to interventions that are recommended by medical or epidemiological experts’. Roughly translated as terrify the population into doing what their told.
If the idiots who decide when we are “allowed” our full rights back really want to make it dependant on the uptake of 2nd doses, we have a long wait. Are they taking into consideration that a lot of 2nd doses do not have a live body to be injected into?
And how about all the people who suffered such severe side effects that they are advised against a 2nd dose.
Yes, there are plenty of idiots who, despite severe side effects, still want the 2nd one, but there must be plenty that do not for whatever reason.
It’s all smoke and mirrors. They’ll keep trucking out ‘experts’ and ‘variants’ ad infinitum. When they bring out the ‘Soylent Green’ cubicles I’ll be first in the queue. My final music of choice? Elgar’s Nimrod. Might as well pass on with another variation!
It is quite clear that the main group showing positive are 10 to 19 years. Over 50s simply don’t figure in any of the governments own statistics.
And virtually no-one shows up on hospital admission and death statistics.
There is no science in any of this. I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but it is increasingly difficult to deny that there is something else underlying this, and it is not the health and wealth of the British nation.
Norman. I too am not a “conspiracy theorist”. There is unequivocal evidence of an international plan to lie to all populations simultaneously & deprive us of effective treatments so as to coerce us to accept vaccination.
When they write down what they are doing it isn’t a conspiracy theory it’s a conspiracy plain and simple
I agree and it is so great that you post here. What is the end game? For the evil cabal to own everything? the thrill of killing people and confiscating what other’s have accrued? Why is every single useful idiot, ie the NHS, MP’s, media etc, going along with this? What are they uniformly frightened of or blinded by? I am just so bewildered when it couldn’t be more obvious what is going on.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. The facts are right there in your face.
Sounds a lot like “three weeks to flatten the curve”, doesn’t it? People need to wake up. #groundhog year
I doubt if there will be any further significant injection uptake by the over 50’s so I’m expecting more orchestrated citizen division to be created by the planners. Divide and conquer.
Ohh, you naughty over 50 varkseen refusnik deniers, how very dare you inconvenience your sensible vaccinated felow citizens.
Then there are the partially as opposed to ‘fully’ vaccinated who are vowing not to have a 2nd or 3rd injection, once they’ve sampled it and experienced adverse reactions.
You’d have to be a clot to risk a clot.
NWO whore says we need to distinguish between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated:
https://hugotalks.com/2021/06/06/tony-blair-calls-for-division-hugo-talks-some-more-lockdown/
Wonder if the injected will have to wear a yellow star???
Tony Blair is evil incarnate. A stain on human decency and to our eternal shame, British.
Yes he is. I’ve heard him called “The AntiChrist”.
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Have you noticed how no explanation is ever given for why it’s justified to treat the vaccinated & unvaccinated differently?
It’s utter bunk. Vaccine passports add nothing to public safety.
If you’re vaccinated that is the best you can do (assuming it’s safe & effective, both of which are in doubt).
Knowing other people’s immune status is irrelevant.
No. The only people who benefit from VaxPass are those promulgating them, evil creatures like Blair & Gates. Well known medical scientists.
Totally agree.
These people with their extraordinary wealth (I assume Blair has now accumulated 100’s of millions) have become so arrogant that they do not feel any need to justify their comments or actions.
Its scary that these evil scum bags consider themselves not only health experts but also the architects of humanity.