U.K. Medicines Regulator Approves Pfizer Vaccine for Use in Children Aged 12-15

The U.K. has moved a step closer to vaccinating children against Covid today, with the medicines regulator having approved the use of the Pfizer vaccine in those aged 12-15. This comes in spite of the warning from Adam Finn, Professor of Paediatrics at the University of Bristol and a member of the Government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), that children should not be given Covid vaccines because of the “side effects“. The Guardian has the story.

“We have carefully reviewed clinical trial data in children aged 12 to 15 years and have concluded that the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine is safe and effective in this age group and that the benefits of this vaccine outweigh any risk,” said Dr June Raine, the Chief Executive of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

She added it would be up to the JCVI to decide whether this age group would come under the vaccine deployment programme.

More than 2,000 children were involved in the clinical trial to determine the safety of the Pfizer vaccine, the Chair of the Commission on Human Medicines, Professor Sir Munir Pirmohamed, said. “We have been very careful to take into consideration the younger age group and the benefits of this population being vaccinated against any potential risk of side-effects.

“We have concluded that based on the data we have seen on the quality, effectiveness and safety of the vaccine, its benefits do outweigh any risk. The MHRA will continue to scrutinise all of the suspected side effects data received through the rigorous surveillance programme in place through the yellow card scheme and other safety surveillance measures for all of the Covid vaccines used in the U.K.”

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: There is a petition on the Gov.uk website opposing the vaccination of children against Covid until Phase Three trials are complete which can be found here.

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Annie
4 years ago

There are NO benefits to children. NONE.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And equally important, Covid is zero risk to this age group.

So why are they being vaxxed against it? To stop it spreading to others?

Err, nope, it doesn’t stop transmission apparently.

And haven’t those “others” been vaxxed anyway?

You have to be fully brainwashed or a retard to not see the naked fraud and profiteering here.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Profiteering is the least of their sins.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Shouldn’t this story have mentioned how many UK children between the ages of 12 and 15 have died from or with COVID?

For context, compare this figure to the number of children who die in a typical flu season.

I’ve calculated the odds my healthy, non-minority children (ages 5 and 9) will die from COVID. They are about 1-in-1-million.

The odds they or I will be struck by lightning this year are 1-in-700,000.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Pfizer are working on an anti-lightning jab, I hear. To be administered every blue moon.

paul smith
4 years ago

<checks watch, waits 18 months…>

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Filming of Mission Impossible 7 has been halted due to positive tests amongst the film crew.

At least now we know what the plot of Mission Impossible 8 will be…

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

but but but Tom insisted everyone wear 10 masks, how could they possibly have caught it?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

This is the future – every activity/job/event potentially disrupted at the drop of a hat

Trabant
4 years ago

“We have carefully reviewed clinical trial data in children aged 12 to 15 years and have concluded that the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine is safe and effective in this age group and that the benefits of this vaccine outweigh any risk,”
What utter, utter bollocks.
Drivel from a lying moron who doesn’t give a flying feck and is just parroting what they’ve been told to say without giving it any thought.

leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

I decided to write to the MHRA with a few questions. Did you notice the weasel words that they used in their press release?

…..There were no cases of COVID-19 from 7 days after the second dose in the vaccinated group, compared with 16 cases in the placebo group……

They only started counting cases from 7 days after the second dose, which means I think that there were cases before this time period.

I also asked about the seriousness of the placebo ‘cases’. I am betting that all 16 cases were just false positives and the individuals werent even ill.

What is going on here is just monstrous.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Cherry picking the mouldy data cherries

AnnabelleG
AnnabelleG
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Well done….. but what are the chances of an honest reply??

KarlosFandango
KarlosFandango
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

With you totally – I think 9 under 15s died “with” covid in 2020 – so logic dictates we get to 10 vaccine related deaths and it is then too dangerous to continue…?

I want to see the actual justification…
Give drugs that don’t work to a cohort that doesn’t need it…

Definitely doesn’t set any alarm bells ringing

LePib
LePib
4 years ago
Reply to  KarlosFandango

I’ve been pointing out that in Scotland we have recorded just 69 deaths in the under 45’s with Covid since last March. I thought this was a pretty damning statistic in itself given the harms that have been unleashed on this age group through lockdowns . And then a friend pointed out – REMEMBER ‘within 28 days’ – many of those people could well have been suicides, misadventure, drug deaths. I was thinking – co-morbidities – stupid of me to not think about this. Makes it even more ridiculous that they’re advocating this (if it could get any more ridiculous).

cyclingnut69
cyclingnut69
4 years ago
Reply to  LePib

And how many deaths due to the lethal injections in that period?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  KarlosFandango

The problem here is that Covid vaccination is the main plank of the depopulation pogrom that is now in full flow across most of the world. They won’t admit that there may be any problems until they have jabbed us all.

AnnabelleG
AnnabelleG
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

Absolutely Terrifying – I wonder if this numbskull or numbskulls would pass this as safe and effective for children if they were told that They (the person or committee members (not the drugs company ) could be sued if any of the Children have long term side effects from this experimental jab that is being used on an emergency licence …. Lets then see if they are prepared to put their money where their mouth is.. Somehow I don’t think so

cyclingnut69
cyclingnut69
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

A trial based on 2000 kids means it’s safe enough to roll out to millions of kids, wtf isn’t going on!!

Benefits outweigh the risks! They stand a nigh on 100% chance of surviving Covid! This is pure evil !

Kaffirharbin
4 years ago

‘Why?’ What I find incredible is that the idea of vaccinating children has been largely communicated and even debated. But never after the question ‘why?’ has been answered. Surely any news item on this subject should start with e.g. ‘There is a plan to vaccinate children because. . .’ But why anyone wants to do this thing is never explained. It is a plan without any known purpose.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Kaffirharbin

On the contrary. It has a clear purpose. Pfizer profits. Control.

beancounter
beancounter
4 years ago

Please can somebody point me in the direction of the trials that involved apes, of any sort but preferably chimpanzees, that shows the impact of these drugs upon such mammals and their offspring.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

The only ones ever undertaken on mRNA type vaccines started in 2002 and in every single case they failed testing because all of the animals got sick and most died after being exposed to the actual virus. For the vaccines pumped into millions of people there have been no animal tests and, in fact, none have passed even second stage testing. Millions of people decided to be Lab Rats. Quite frankly I’ve given up trying to get them to see sense, fuck them, if they all die so what?

RickH
4 years ago

Proof positive of the pointlessness of the MHRA as a safeguarding institution operating on behalf of the public.

It’s merely a shameless shill for government – starting from the fact that there is no ’emergency’ to justify authorization.

Mengele is alive and well and working for the MHRA.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Its the regulator of Big Pharma paid for and by Big Pharma. There was never any question it would support what they wanted. Now the question is, will the government actually do what a government is supposed to do, or will it too rubber stamp? I think we all know the answer to that unfortunately. And of course the majority of governments can just point to each other and say, we all did it.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Its a shameless shill for Bill Gates and his parasitic cohorts.. The same has just happened in France. The bastards behind this really do need the ultimate punishment.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

I am depressed but not surprised by France doing the same. And the conditions attached to the travel ‘traffic lights’ announced in France today are also depressingly predictable. No attempt to disguise the inducement to get vaccinated, all our fears in full view.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Absolutely.. its as plain as the nose on your face. I’m utterly sickened by people just not being able to put two and two together.

A couple of my French friends who should know better can think of nothing more than going on holiday again. I can’t find words to describe their stupidity..

AnnabelleG
AnnabelleG
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I am truly frightened by my government and the MHRA —-

ArtC
4 years ago

You knew this was coming when the papers are full of stories of the spread of Covid in schools. Even though there are tiny amounts of cases, you’d think all hell had broken loose. The variants were just an excuse to get the kids jabbed. No doubt they’ll work their way down ’til eventually sperm are jabbed whilst still swimming in your balls.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  ArtC

You think there will be viable sperm in the future after all the jabbing?

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I think infertility is the general idea for those that survive that is. Death to all others..

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

The passports are the goal, for them to work you need complete families with passports, they want to control travel. If you refuse to get your child vaccinated they don’t have a passport so no travel.
They are evil

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I am afraid that their goals are much more sinister and bold than some travel documents. No one knows what they are but all the remaining possibilities would be too dark for the Nazi party.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Freedom to travel is a great incentive for many. (It breaks my heart to think I’ll never again visit your shores). But restrictions and control of travel is just the least sinister aspect of the “programme.”

leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago

First do no harm.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

They think (other) people ARE the harm.

WilliamC
WilliamC
4 years ago

The MHRA receives funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The article above is from the Guardian. The Guardian also receives funding from the Gates Foundation. The Wellcome Trust cropped up in a story on LS earlier today. The Wellcome Trust receives funding from the Gates Foundation. Nothing to look at here, I’m sure.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  WilliamC

Anyone who isn’t deluded, corrupt or simply an idiot would know that a trustworthy safeguarding agency will not be in receipt of funding from private sources with an agenda..

zners
zners
4 years ago

My word

TheBluePill
4 years ago

The BBBC has just opened comments on this and (after a few days off) 77th were ready to pounce on it. Comments are utterly deluded, for example talking about how children have been shown to be super spreaders of the virus. Almost every comment is demonstrably the opposite of the truth.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

This needs sharing everywhere…

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OMatt
OMatt
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Where’s Isildur when you need him…

Libertarianist
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

This too.

Libertarianist
4 years ago
Reply to  Libertarianist

This

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

The extra B means .. Bastards……

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Madness.

Well worth reminding people of what we are dealing with here in terms of fatality for those of various age groups who get the virus – this survival chart for covid19 gives some indication of chances of survival for those who contract covid19 (note : those between 10 and 19 years of age with no underlying health conditions have a 99.9996% survival rate) …

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Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Branch Covidians care not for this. They only care that you martyr yourself to save the .2%.

BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

It’s worse. The argument I have seen today was that all kids would have to get vaccinate because 200 were sent home to isolate at their own kids school after a single case.

Thats it. That’s their line in the sand here. That’s their level of need to allow for mass vaccination of all children.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Great stats.
It needs to add chances of dying or injury from the jabs (which is undoubtedly greater).

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

… and you’ve got to catch it first – which is actually quite difficult, particularly at this level of general prevalence. Take out noscomial infection, and its very rare indeed.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

This is the risk/benefit that needs repeating. A less than 1 in 2 million chance of dying from/with C19. At best, from the data so far a 1 in 50-100,000 chance of dying from the Wuhan jab.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Yes. If you put selective poison in the water supply you know – and they do know this – will kill a percentage of those who drink it, there’s an intent to kill. You don’t need to know their names. You don’t need to know how many you will kill.

helenf
4 years ago

Try telling the parents of any child who has permanent, life changing side effects or who dies following the experimental gene therapy that the benefits outweigh the risks.

zoe
zoe
4 years ago

“You were born free. Don’t let them take your freedoms away from you. AND PROTECT THE CHILDREN. And (under) no conditions let them have that vaccine that kills people.”

Benedictine Nuns, London Freedom March March 29, 2021.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/would-a-nun-lie-to-you-hugo-talks-lockdown_bquIpFPlBDaHtCo.html

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago

All very well moaning about it but less than 42k people have signed Ros Jones’s petition.

It won’t even trigger a debate in Parliament.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

Is that the one which says until trials are complete? Just kicking the can down the road.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

In another 18 months more information will come to light. People will start to talk to each other and share experiences.

The petition raises the issue that the Trials have not been completed. Relatively few people know this.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

If they’re allowed to.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago

Ok – so just forget it.

If it is debated in parliament then it will at least make some MPs aware. I doubt they are fully informed of the facts.

AfterAll
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

In any case the Pfizer and Moderna Phase III trials were effectively shut down after 6 months, when they vaccinated their control group.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  AfterAll

So what? That’s even more evidence that the vaccines haven’t been properly tested.

This petition is the only way the wider public including MPs might actually become aware of the facts.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

The “only way”? Bullshit.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

Why the down vote? I often disagree with Mayo – but the observation is correct.

Bluntly, mass reasoning and morality is now corrupted beyond belief. I understand 1930s Germany far more clearly than I did two years ago.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And I’m afraid Rick that the stories/history of 1930’s Germany is brought to you via the same scum responsible for what’s happening now.

Modern history has been a passion of mine for the past three decades and I can assure you after extensive research that we have not been told the truth about both world wars, who was behind them, and their purpose.

As the old saying goes.. the winners get to write the history..

Helen
Helen
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

George , This is little bit of history about a near by ‘camp’ that might interest you. It confirms what you write, has relevance to medical experimentation that we are all witnessing, and shows medical ethics can become warped. Camp King and the experimenter turned ethicist Operation Paperclip Operation Paperclip is the name of the US Government operation to bring senior Nazi scientists to the US to help with military cold war operations. Some of these scientists had been involved in the development of chemical and biological weapons and in medical experiments at Dachau and Ravensbrück. Dr Kurt Blome, for example, was the Third Reich’s deputy health minister but was acquitted during the Nuremberg trial, as was General Walter Schreiber, former medical chief for the Wehrmacht. Operation Artichoke  Based at Camp King in Oberursel ex-gestapo officers Kurt Blome and Walter Schreiber (using the pseudonym Fischer) worked at a villa in the neighbouring town of Kronberg where they oversaw inhumane interrogations of Soviet defectors and double agents using drugs such as Benzedrin and Pentothal-Natrium. Operation MK ULTRA  The worst MK Ultra human testing was done in what would later be called ‘black sites’ – clandestine facilities such as Camp King out of… Read more »

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

I won’t sign it because it still endorses using children as guinea pigs in dangerous and unnecessary drug trials

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Then you’re giving them free rein to carry on. Well done.

If the trials come up with unsatisfactory results (they won’t because we’re seeing the results NOW) The Yellow Card data will need to be analysed. It’ll take years to look into the 1K plus deaths.

The public think the vaccines have been tested. This petition shows that is not the case. It might start the conversation.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

There was absolutely no need for them to include the part about waiting for vaccine trials to be completed before making any decisions about the rollout of vaccines for children. It was giving mixed messages and detracted from the thrust of the argument. I have principles, and I stand by them. If you really think that me not signing that petition is me “giving them free rein to carry on” , you have a naive idea about the power of petitions, the toss government gives about drug/vaccine trial results, and you have no idea about the power of me.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

You’re right. Even testing them or making them any part of this charade is unconscionable. I’m writing notices of liability for anyone local in a position of authority that involves themselves with this. Others should be doing the same I think. Better than a pretend parliamentary petition.

James Kreis
4 years ago

Lest we should forget who’s pulling the strings, the MHRA has received over $7 million in ‘grants’ from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and in 2019 Dr Raine attended a BMGF conference in Seattle. She’ll be very near the top of the list of defendants when the day of reckoning comes.

MikeAustin
4 years ago

TOTALLY DISGUSTED!

Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
4 years ago

These people had better hope there’s no risk or that we’re all going to be wiped out in some massive depopulation event.

Because if it comes out that there are dangers with these gene based vaccines that were known and suppressed, I think they’ll have a lot of people motivated to punish them and I don’t mean by going through the so-called official channels.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

There is risk and they know it. Thousands are dying and being maimed because of being injected with this shit. Look at the European figures below. What we’re witnessing here is an ongoing genocide, and this is just the beginning..

https://www.globalresearch.ca/12184-dead-1196190-injuries-european-database-adverse-drug-reactions-covid-19-vaccines/5746273

..

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MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Interesting that 75% of AZ reports were not done by a healthcare professional. There self-reporting systems are being widely abused as a result of vaccine panic.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Evidence please

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I know for a fact that many healthcare professionals are not reporting adverse events. They should – even if they don’t suspect the vaccine caused the effect.

in any case the same or similar systems have been in operation for years. Anti-vaxxers are not a new phenomenon. The US vaccinates millions of people every year – yet there has never been anything on this scale before.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

How do you “know for a fact” that many healthcare professionals are not reporting adverse events? Has there been a survey?

Similar systems have been in operation for years but with nothing approaching the same publicity. I don’t know if a similar proportion of non-healthcare professionals were reporting adverse events for previous vaccines. Do you?

Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“but with nothing approaching the same publicity.”

Nobody I’ve spoken to was made aware of the reporting system, let alone encouraged to use it.

Nobody I’ve spoken to has been contacted by the NHS or their GP after being injected to check whether they’ve had an adverse reaction. In contrast, I’ve had 3 letters, 6 texts, 3 calls on my landline and 6 on my mobile trying to get me to be jabbed. And 3 texts encouraging me to take the flu jab.

A friend spent 3 days in bed after her first AZ jab: when I suggested she report it she said that would be “ungrateful”

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Are you seriously claiming that the Covid vaccination programme has not had massive publicity? People may not have heard of the yellow card system but the hype of the vaccination programme means they are far more likely to find out about it if something.unpleasant happens just after they take the vaccine.

Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“Are you seriously claiming that the Covid vaccination programme has not had massive publicity?”

That comment proves to me that you’re a shill: my comment was very, very clearly about the system for reporting adverse effects..

Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

And you’ve changed your comment in response to mine without admitting it.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

I don’t know how to change my comments. As a matter of interest – is it possible and how do you do it?

CovidiousAlbion
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

There is a brief grace period, after you post a comment.

If you “mouse-over” your comment, a cogwheel symbol appears at the bottom right, level with the “Reply” link.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago

Thanks. I am always making typos which I spot immediately after posting.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

There’s a few shills on here. Which is a positive thing as it shows they’re worried.

monica coyle
monica coyle
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

That’s what I think, helenf. They are so obvious it is painful. All they do is make me even more convinced we are right.
Yesterday I shared the link to a petition in the Telegraph to stop children being vaccinated until Phase 3 trials are over, and some shill claimed I was spamming the comments and for the moderator to remove the link. It was removed but not until a good number of people had signed and shared it. And now I see it it on Lockdown Sceptics today, anyway.
Please everyone, sign and share. it could slow down the vaccination program on our youngsters who we must do everything to protect!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  monica coyle

Legal Notices of liability are a good idea too. I’m sending one to my boss (I’m a teacher) should the school become a ‘vaccination’ centre. I won’t be able to work somewhere children are being injected with something that might kill, maim or sterilise them. If adults are stupid enough to put themselves forward for this nonsense that’s up to them, but children need actively protecting from this. Enough is enough.

Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“healthcare professionals” who are willing to inject people at negligible risk from the virus with experimental gene therapies are exactly the kind of people who would conceal the negative consequences of their actions.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

How do you “know for a fact” that many healthcare professionals are not reporting adverse events? Has there been a survey?

I know many healthcare professionals.

I don’t know if a similar proportion of non-healthcare professionals were reporting adverse events for previous vaccines. Do you?

Irrelevant. Vaccine rollouts have previously been abandoned when the death toll reached 50 – regardless of who was reporting.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

I know many healthcare professionals.

So your only evidence is your personal experience?

Vaccine rollouts have previously been abandoned when the death toll reached 50 – regardless of who was reporting.

It is very relevant. If those 50 deaths were all reported by healthcare professionals and represented a significant proportion of the vaccinations that is very different from deaths reported by non-healthcare professionals during a massive campaign.

Incidentally I keep hearing about roll outs being abandoned when the death toll reached 50 but no one seems to be able to point to actual examples. Can you help? (I don’t doubt they exist but the context is important).

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

So your only evidence is your personal experience?

Yes. But I am confident the practice (or non-practice) is widespread. Doctors don’t vary too much in their general behaviour patterns

Incidentally I keep hearing about roll outs being abandoned when the death toll reached 50 but no one seems to be able to point to actual examples.

Swine Flu vaccine rollout was halted after 50 deaths were reported in the US. I heard this from Dr Peter McCullough who is both a practising doctor and a researcher. I have no reason to doubt him. Do you?

In any case, the burden of proof rests with those who are pushing the vaccines. It is not up to me nor anyone else to prove that the vaccines are not safe. It is claimed that the vaccines cause blood clots – some of which are fatal. We now know this is almost certainly the case. We even know why. The rollout needs to be stopped and the deaths investigated.

This interview with Professor Byram Bridle provides the broad details.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nuM0G6PqgwIK/

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

In any case, the burden of proof rests with those who are pushing the vaccines. It is not up to me nor anyone else to prove that the vaccines are not safe. It is claimed that the vaccines cause blood clots – some of which are fatal. We now know this is almost certainly the case. We even know why.

But there is masses of proof. The original RCTs. An then all the observational studies based on the hundreds of millions of doses given so far. This article contains links to a few of the observational studies.

Yes – the monitoring process worked and the very small chance of a blood clot was identified and publicised widely. For most adults the risk is easily outweighed by the benefits. But the information about the risks is there and no one is being forced to be vaccinated. (You may be surprised to know that I agree that the case for vaccinating children is poor.)

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

evidence for your statement about the self-reporting systems being “widely abused as a result of vaccine panic”?

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I admit that abuse and vaccine panic were rather a colourful way of describing it – done in a loose moment. A more boring and accurate way of putting it might be:

There are an exceptional number of reports being submitted compared to other vaccine rollouts which are not due to an exceptional level of risk.

My evidence for this is:

  • The majority of the reports are from non-healthcare professionals
  • The number of reported cases exceeds other similar vaccine rollouts yet all the rigorous observational studies show that there are very few safety issues – a very small risk of blood clots and myocardial infarction – nothing like enough to justify this increased level of reporting
Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

I think I can guess what MTF must stand for.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

They are my initials.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Modulation transfer function?

Catee
4 years ago

Dr June Raine
Remember that name for Nuremberg 2.

Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Susan Michie, mind mangler…

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Only an ignorant fool or a totally evil entity would want to inject an innocent child with a gene altering substance. Surely the mass of the people will not accept this assault upon our children by this evil axis of Government and the Pharmaceutical industry?

This announcement has crossed the line.

Susan
4 years ago

“Surely the mass of people will not accept this assault…” You give the ignorant, lazy, impressionable, frightened masses way too much credit.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago

Beyond criminal. Beyond insane. Beyond criminally insane.

Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago

I just got immediately censored on the Spectator for pointing out that injecting us with experimental gene therapies has never been about protecting our health or restoring our freedoms.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

truth hurts

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Truth is illegal at Airstrip One.

LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

I’ve been over there posting like mad, just to make up for your censorship.
I’m getting very confrontational with one or two, mostly because they’re following the government line. 😁

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Ditto!

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Ouch! You must have used a ‘trigger’ word & upset the bots…

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

There comes a point, where things go too far, and the sheep will wake up properly, this could be it for the majority.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

If you’ve jabbed, why wouldn’t you have your kids jabbed? Most people I know who’ve been jabbed seem to believe it’s perfectly safe so I don’t think they’d have qualms about giving it to their kids.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well, hopefully not, just read quite a few comments saying I’ve had the jab but stay away from my kids, that they are not in danger, time will tell

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Well if that’s the case then that’s a small piece of encouragement.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, I stumbled across a covid vaccine zealot Twitter thread the other day and was shocked at the people wanting to get their children vaccinated as they were so fearful for them. A lot of the talk was about kids contributing to variants, but if they don’t get sick, they won’t be infectious so won’t be passing on to others, so no variants.

I can hide away as I am retired but what will happen if schools put pressure on to have children vaccinated so they can attend school? Very hard for parents.

I don’t know how we here don’t feel this same fear of covid. I begin to feel it is me that is the odd one out. Being very sure I had covid in March 2019 I do not want a vaccine, and I don’t feel I am at any risk but 3 letters, 3 phone calls and 4 texts later I feel under so much pressure to be “a normal person” like all the other millions.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

Stay strong. I long to get a phone call from them. They can phone me daily, the conversation will be cathartic for me.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I don’t agree. I think the wake up stage will happen well after all the problems with the vaccines manifest even in kids. At first there will be an attempt to deny the problem and blame the victims. Only after substantial misery will it change.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

The eventual side-effects and deaths will most likely be blamed on another Chinese bioweapon. After all, the symptoms will be very similar to one another.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Should also add that this would lead them on to justify more jabs – a terrible vicious cycle.

LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I doubt it.
Many believe children should be vaccinated.

scuzbert
scuzbert
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

My friend, a TA thinks the jab thing for kids should wait until there is a nasal spray. I hadn’t realised this but apparently the kids are all given a flu ‘spray’ every year, and she equates the experimental gene therapy with the conventional flu vaccine. Nothing will change her mind. She also believes all children are superspreaders, and for that reason alone is more than happy to have this happen to them.
She is a well-educated, middle class woman who, up to now I’ve always thought of as intelligent.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I fully expect my sister will usher her son into the jab queue as soon as his age group comes up.

We’re dealing with a new global religion. People who never thought of themselves as being the “spiritual sort” never thought they’d find themselves bashing their faces with covid manuals in the streets while chanting stuff about staying safe. They really are experiencing something akin to psychosis.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

More like myxomatosis…

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

They do NOT know the benefits, they do NOT know the negatives, this is a trial for many years
The Non Liability Clause must have helped their decision

J4mes
4 years ago

“We have carefully reviewed clinical trial data and swept it beneath a rug at an undisclosed location.” -Dr June Raine

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

If a group of illegal migrants to our shores can successfully sue our vile government for being placed in “inadequate” housing using taxpayers money through legal aid, no doubt costing millions, what is to stop a group of parents seeking human rights for their children not to be vaccinated by a novel gene therapy vaccine that doesn’t conclude it’s testing until 2023 and which has severe side effects including death?
This could affect millions of our children so surely legal aid could be considered.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

That doesn’t benefit the establishment through enhanced rents and subdued wages therefore it won’t be a “proper” entitlement.
Children are the state’s owners (that’s not you) future cattle, so you dont get to choose.

George L
4 years ago

Lets remind ourselves of a little networking shall we..

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Trojan House
Trojan House
4 years ago

How can the benefits outweigh the risks when there is virtually no risk to kids under the age of 20 from Covid? I’m in Canada and the number of deaths under 20 is…wait for it…11. That’s in a year. The problem everyone is stuck on is this so-called “asymptomatic” transmission. I’m sure that is what they are weighing it against – kids giving it to their grandparents who do have way worse outcomes. That being said, there are studies showing that kids rarely, if at all, transmit the virus so really, there is no benefit to vaccinating kids against Covid.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

They very carefully didn’t say that the benefits to the children outweigh the risks.

imp66
imp66
4 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

To quote Dr. John Lee: ” asymptomatic used to be called immune”.