End of Lockdown Unlikely to Bring an End to Face Masks and Work from Home Guidelines
Professor Anthony Harnden, the Deputy Chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), says that the unlocking of society will be a “gradual process” requiring a “cautious” approach – even if the June 21st date for the end of lockdown is met. He told BBC Breakfast (as quoted in WalesOnline):
Even if we do un-lockdown, if you are in a vulnerable position, particularly if you’ve not been vaccinated, you do need to carry on being cautious, even if the June 21st date goes ahead.
So I think we’ve all got used to living within boundaries at the moment and I think it’s not an all or none, I think it will be a gradual process even if the June 21st date goes ahead.
According to the Times, the Government is prioritising ending social distancing guidelines, but will likely leave guidance around masking and working from home in place.
The Treasury is prioritising the end of the “one metre plus” distancing rule and the “rule of six” indoors, which is viewed as crucial to supporting hospitality and retail and helping the economy to recover. Ministers also want to end rules that limit mass gatherings so that festivals, concerts and sporting events can go ahead…
In an attempt to reduce the spread of the virus, masks could still be required on public transport and in indoor public spaces. Guidance stating that people must work from home if they can may also remain in place. Boris Johnson is expected to make a decision on which restrictions can be lifted within the next fortnight.
For some Government advisers, even unlocking partially on June 21st would be going too far. According to SAGE member Professor Andrew Hayward, there is a “good argument” for delaying the end of lockdown until a “much higher proportion” of the population has been fully vaccinated (a sentiment recently echoed by Health Secretary Matt Hancock).
He told Today on BBC Radio 4: “It’s still going to be a few weeks yet until we’ve got all of the highly clinically vulnerable double-vaccinated and that will probably coincide with the plans to open up more fully. When we do open up more fully, instead of [cases of the Indian variant] doubling every week, it’s likely to double more frequently than that. I think there is a good argument for caution until we’ve got a much higher proportion double-vaccinated.”
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“… I think it will be a gradual process even if the June 21st date goes ahead…”
And I think you’re talking out of your rse if you think everyone is going to carry on wearing masks.
Unfortunately way too many people will continue the entirely pointless theatre of mask wearing for generations to come. More fool them. I am not doing it.
Well the French are top of my league so far as mask ninnies go. In a very large French town yesterday and everyone, everywhere, was wearing masks, and the temperature was ‘stinking hot’. I asked someone why everybody was masked.. oh its ‘obligatoire’. From what I can see there’s no push-back whatsoever.. the French appear to be in complete enthral with the authorities..
They have always been good surrender monkeys
That’s a laugh, coming from a deluded spoiled brat of a nation that has immediately crumbled to fascism in the face of a virus of no ‘high consequence’, and has based its arrogance on the fortunes of geography and Hitler’s mistakes.
Yes, RickH is right, Jaguarpig – we’re no different. Silly to think otherwise – the evidence is written over everyone’s faces.
Surrender monkeys? They shared a border with Germany. They were fucked when Hitler came marching in. Just as we would have been. Look at how so many Brits took to the mask, and embraced snitching on neighbours and now insist everyone must be vaccinated so they can feel safe.
No. Let’s not insult the French. Glass houses.
Cheese eating surrender monkeys!
They, like every other mask twats are unredeemable cretinous fuckwits and total bollockbrained zombie erm ..idiots…
Same in Belgium – I am usually the only person walking outside without a mask in town. Many wear them even in areas where they are not mandated, when there’s absolutely no-one around and sadly the young seem to be the worst!
Yes. People are terrified of death, and Harnden and Hayward are deliberately keeping them needlessly terrified.
I’m fine with letting them do so. But I don’t believe it’s effective, or worth the costs socially, economically and health wise. It is theatre and most of us know it. We are all just complaint because we are good citizens.
No we’re not.
Yes lots of people will still wear masks even if they are no longer mandatory.
On the other hand I notice a lot more people walking the “wrong way” in the supermarket, which is good.
but this just proves that they never intend to “allow us ” to be fully not locked down.
Sadly, it’s been obvious for a while that the best they are going to offer is some sort of ephemeral “Tier 1” status, available only to people that “act sensibly”, that is intended to keep us locked into the restrictive system they’ve created.
Just stop complying.
Noticed a lot more maskless customers at work over the last week. A lot more exemption lanyards too.
At a non chain garden center yesterday no masks at all outside or in the poly tunnels and only about half put them on inside when they went in to pay. Also fewer donning masks to go through the pub to access the garden. Fingers crossed we are starting to see push back.
Likewise in our neck of the woods – most were people born before c1980…
Masks must be a matter of personal chose after June the 21st they above all are the thing that says “be shit scared” of Covid until we can exercise our right not to wear one ever again no one will start living again the brain washed need to see nothing bad happens when you don’t wear a mask!! Stop treating use like children Mr Johnson and co! I’m an adult and after the 21st I will be making my own risk assessment on what I do and how I do it!
Goodness me, what is the matter with everyone? I’m 80, will not wear a mask and always make up my own mind about everything.
Fu*k right of. I’m on my way to London on the train, no mask, meeting up with my brother no distancing, and lots of hugging. NO NO NO to any more coming out of this shit carefully. I’ve utterly done I’m out and not going back in.
Oh and the goal posts have shifted….again.
It reminds me of a cartoon impression of scientists you know the ones that aren’t in touch with reality and just hide them selves away in a laboratory coming up with mad experiments.
Just more bullshit.
Probably all based on “modelling” – I’ve said it before, and I am going to say it again, if they stopped the modelling tomorrow this would all be over in a week. No masks. No SD. If they had never paid any attention to Neil Ferguson’s model in the first place it surely begs the question would we have had ANY of this nightmare or would a normal respiratory virus just have been allowed to run its course, provided the elderly and vulnerable were better safeguarded than they EVER were by this government?
I’ve aired my opinion on Ferguson on a number of occasions. But the turd keeps bobbing back up to the surface to scare us some more or to congratulate himself on how many lives he thinks he’s saved. The man is a smug, arrogant fuckwitt.
Feargoeson…cunt
He – and all the rest of the modelling “cohort” with whom he consorted over the last 20 years – now can add the affair of SARS Covid 2 and Covid 19 to their palmares; I know that I could never look at myself in the mirror knowing I had contributed to the disaster of lockdown/untreated diseases and seemingly many many thousands of needless deaths – how on this earth can they persist in their “professions”? If I perpetrated this kind of chronic malfeasance I would be heavily censored and stripped of continuing membership of 2 professional bodies. May I suggest that TY/LS start a page entitled “J’accuse” for those individuals to face professional scrutiny for their actions – OK it will not happen but it should?
This makes sense (within the confines of the lunatic world these monsters inhabit). WFH guidance and masks are the least controversial and headline-grabbing restrictions, again within the context of the MSM rather than in sceptic circles. This was always the issue with making economic consequences the main plank of the argument, along with educational ones. The liberty argument never got much traction in the mainstream of debate.
I think that the various Big Pharma PR arseholes, significance enhancing psychopaths and gong-chasers who recommend the continued use of masks etc. should never be graced with the title ‘scientist’.
Simply because they clearly aren’t. They’ve failed at the most basic level of the ability to engage in rational analysis of the evidence.
It’s much worse than that. They know they are lying, and it is in their financial interests to do so.
So no return to normal then? Wow who knew?
I can’t bring myself to read the ‘news’ any more so wondered if someone more on top of things than me can confirm whether it’s correct that some ‘hcv’ people have not been double-vaccinated. I would find it very surprising indeed if they hadn’t all been offered both vaccines seeing as they’re now on to the under 40s non-vulnerable. The over 80s were 2nd jabbed by end February in my area so I would have expected hcv people who wanted the vaccine to be done by March or April. Is this another lie or have I missed something?
Matt Hancock speaking in forked tongues again. He can forever say all the HCVs haven’t been vaccinated because there will always be some who decline. But he’s trying to make it sound like it’s still an ongoing process, presumably entailing “education” and “persuasion” to get over all that “hesitancy”.
Thank you. Yes I wondered if ‘hesitancy’ was the gift that kept on giving.
Yes, that was my immediate reaction on reading the article. Surely everyone, sceptics or otherwise, should be asking that question and asking for more details of precisely what he means by the statement.
Definitely a lie. They are on healthy people in their early 30s now, and on teenagers in certain areas.
Sorry for ignorance, but what does hcv mean here?
Highly clinically vulnerable, I reckon
No, I don’t think you have missed anything. So clinically vulnerable are in priority group 4. Google around and you can see February 14th was when it was announced that the top 4 priority groups had been offered their first dose. Even adding 12 weeks to the final Feb 14th dose implies that everyone who is clinically vulnerable has been offered both doses. Wankcock is a lying sack of shit.
We’ve had the “gradual process” already, thanks very much.
If they extend the masks insanity, we can tell people, “If you can pretend I’m wearing a mask, I’ll pretend there’s a deadly virus floating in the air, that a deadly disease can be ‘asymptomatic’, that PCR tests can be used to diagnose disease, that 100 years of science was wrong and masks can somehow stop viruses that are 700 times smaller than their pores, that politicians and governments never lie, and that the BBC and the mainstream press never lie, and never have an agenda.”
I’m at the point now where I am prepared to cut a huge mouth and nose shaped hole in any mask they force me to wear – I will still be going through the motions of a mask – it will just be as useless as a mask no one has cut a hole in. See how that goes down in a legal challenge.
never..never ..never wear the face nappy…..ever…
Professor Hardon says ‘I think’ three times in one sentence to tell us the unlockdown isn’t going to happen, self-obsessed tosser.
At 11am it’s 22 degrees C out there with the sun blazing, perfect day for mass non compliance. I just took a quick trip to the local high street, not a single al fresco mask in sight.
No mask, no lanyard, no problem even in the one shop that I go to every two years for a new pair of shoes.
I think it depends where you live. Unfortunately, mask compliance in my neck of the woods is still incredibly strong both inside and out. Just been to our large Tesco and me and the wife – as usual – were the only maskless people there.
My area as well. In fact the number of masks keeps on going up. Especially the couples in their 70s walking out and about with their black masks on now that they’ve had their jabs, I presume.
We didn’t have much of a first wave round our way this time last year and not much of a Seasonal Return in January/Feb; perhaps people are more relaxed about it since most probably don’t know of anyone who has been hospitalized let alone died.
Of the 40-50 items in todays Local Live (mirror group news) the only related headline reads ‘County Covid cases remain low’.
Forgive me for asking, what is a ‘shop’ please?
It’s what the old people used to do BC (Before Covid) instead of Amazon and Deliveroo.
A place you avoid…
I’ve been listening to and reading this guys work, he had a really thought provoking video on YouTube.. Before they removed it
Be interested to know what people think?
https://virusesarenotcontagious.com/
One of 1918 JAMA entries he refers to around transmission of spanish flu is really interesting also, an experiment with ‘volunteers’ from the Navy.. The lengths they went to to try and infect the sailors including mucus swabs, injecting blood from sick people , sick people coughing into faces of the sailors, remaining in close proximity to the sick bed for a period of time
Makes a decent case for terrain over germ theory?
I first heard of this theory from Dr Andrew Kaufman, and also from Dr Tom Cowan (see his book, The Contagion Myth, co-written with Sally Fallon Morrell – I have a PDF copy of it because, surprise surprise, it’s been banned by Amazon and most other bookshops).It makes sense to me, but of course it’s unpopular because it would pretty much destroy the Big Pharma industry. When all this blows over, I hope we revisit a lot of things we have always been told are true, including germ theory.
This chap says he had a conversation with Kaufman, who was proposing viruses as exosomes.. Which would be released from cells, pehaps as a way of communicating..
But he believes as you posted in the reply below that viruses are created as part of the detoxification process which our bodies and cells need to undergo.. Symptoms as we call them become part of this detoxification..
He states that a virus isn’t alive, it doesn’t possess a respiratory system or other similar requirements to maintain life, so if it was present in droplets, what is keeping the virus alive.
this idea we infect each other isnt consistent, I’ve had horrendous flu, my parents were in the perfect conditions to catch it from me, close proximity, same environment etc – neither got ill, only November 2019 was i as ill
As the original example
He calls in the illusion of viral activity, and claims chicken pox etc is a naturally occuring detoxification process and strengthening of the immune system..
Interesting stuff 👍
It’s fascinating! When I first heard of the idea, I instinctively resisted it because it goes against everything we’ve been told (I come from a medical family who worship at the altar of “The Science” .🙄) but the more I explored it, the more plausible it seemed. Our own lived experience doesn’t support germ theory as you say – so much depends on our own state of health and our own immunity systems, which of course have been systematically depleted through years of bad food and an increasingly sedentary lifestyle not to mention our own belief system. The power of the mind is something else that plays into all this – we can “think” ourselves ill (just as we can “think” ourselves well) which plays into Bruce Lipton’s idea that our perception of reality is part of our environment, and can produce a toxic response in the body. His book, Biology of Belief, is well worth a read – I first read it 15 years ago, but I’m going to go back to it again, in light of all that’s been unfolding in the past year. For me, everything’s on the table and up for grabs – the world is… Read more »
100% dude.. Nice one!
The only lungs capable of blowing this over belong to God.
This isn’t going to evaporate into ‘lessons learned’.
Nuremburg 2.0 isn’t going to be given. It’s going to have to be taken. The hard way.
They’ve thought through every avenue this can go down and they know their history well. Yet still they jab. And they’re coming for the kids.
Lots more waking up needed.
Then resignment and acceptance of reality. Knees or standing. They’ll be less of us for sure, one way or another. Our kids need there to be none of them.
For the time-short, how does he explain the spread of what seems to be a communicable disease?
The body’s response to external poisons in the atmosphere (the terrain theory). Viruses are part of the clean-up crew to get rid of toxins. Where a lot of people experience similar symptoms at the same time, this is usually in response to some external poison, eg air pollution (as in Wuhan and in northern Italy). This poison can also be caused by EMG pollution – Tom Cowan has pointed out that most of the pandemics in the past have coincided with the swich on of various technologies, which suggests that people’s bodies are responding en masse to reject the new poison. You’ll remember that in the early stages of this farce, anyone who suggested there might be a link between 5G and the ‘rona were immediately shut down.
And the very first thing EMF pollution will do is hit the immune system – which few people are aware of and mainstream medicine wouldn’t begin to understand. And this might also be linked. I was just reading an article where they were reporting that several people with non-hodgkins lymphoma who contracted covid but never received chemo for their NHL diagnoses (because of the pandemic prioritising covid patients) were found to be in remission after they recovered from covid. The thinking is that the NHL is caused by EBV and the covid virus switched on the immune system to attack the covid and the NHL also got mopped up in the same process.
I am convinced that there is a 5g component to the ‘pandemic’ but of course dare not voice that in normal discourse because to do so would make me a total tin foil hat wearer.
I’m with you, Milo. There’s a definite link, and you know you’re over the target when the flack is thickest.
good point Quernus!
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/professor-tom-butler-and-the-irish-times-1.4164003?mode=amp
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/professor-tom-butler-and-the-irish-times-1.4164003?mode=amp
The video which Samurai Jack linked to is pretty short (about 40 mins) and explains it all very clearly. Worth making a little time for 😉
So can anyone explain why these spikes are occurring despite the mask mandate. In Bolton it is mainly school kids getting positives and yet they are still supposed to be wearing masks in school, but in other areas where masks have been withdrawn, there are no increases in infections?
The spikes, if they are not simply an artifact of dubious tests, will most likely come from spike proteins being shed by vaccinated parents and others stupid enough to have taken the jab.
I doubt it’s just the tests. ZOE is showing a doubling of cases over the past 3weeks or so.
It may or may not reflect something. But it’s all relative noise. The goalposts have been shifted constantly. We are creeping inexorably towards zero-covid thinking being ingrained in those in power and in the population. It has more or less taken hold now.
positive tests or cases, ie symptoms?
I’m amazed that, after a year, there are people here still swallowing the sicked-up nonsense of asymptomatic ‘cases’.
Daily rates are positive tests or positive double checked tests with symptoms? If below 50, great news in any case.
ZOE uses symptomatic reporting. (and backed up with an optional swab).
They’ll be real sickness.
There is no evidence of ‘doubling of cases’.
‘Cases’ and ‘infections’ are confirmed illness (except for the illiterate and the propagandists).
I may be way off here but could this be linked to the PCR cycles – talked about in an article on Off Guardian Org whereby the CDC (admittedly in the US) set the PCR cycle at a different rate for this vaccinated and those unvaccinated. It would explain why school children (largely in the unvaccinated group and massively doing lateral flow tests) would start being in a hotspot …. this is just a thought.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/26/more-flagrant-data-manipulation-from-the-cdc/
The above is an interesting read and highlights the complete scam in how data is collected and processed.
You need to look at % +ve, who they are testing and the accuracy of the test at low prevalence and how consistent the test process is
At such low prevalence it’s statistical noise probably
I have, I know and I agree. My question was rhetorical.
About as convincing as ‘the dog ate my homework’.
We already knew Track and Trace, mass testing (de facto mandatory in a lot of cases) and travel restrictions will carry on indefinitely
So with masks and WFH continuing very little will change in June and very little will change for me. My life will remain as it has been all through the various phases of lockdown – private socialising with the few sceptic friends and family we have, and outdoor activities. The long list of things I used to do will remain.
Yes – think of how much money is generated by ‘Track and Trace’. They aren’t going to abandon that mates’gravy train any time soon
It’s ‘Test and Trace’, ‘Track and Trace’ is the Royal Mail system for recorded delivery post.
sounds the same to me!
If we do go back into ‘full’ lockdown (whenever that may be) then instead of going on holiday/weekend break, I’ll go to ‘work’ to photograph the landscape as a freelance photographer.
‘Even if we do un-lockdown, if you are in a vulnerable position, particularly if you’ve not been vaccinated, you do need to carry on being cautious,’ Great advice, not. If you are obese, elderly, infirm, immunocompromised, you need to be cautious. Who knew? What about the 160+ other influenza like illnesses against which no-one has been vaccinated or ever will be? All this nonsense on account of a common cold, known as such since 06 Feb 2020 ‘The Chinese healthcare system is very overwhelmed with all the tests going through. So my thinking is this is actually not as severe a disease as is being suggested. The fatality rate is probably only 0.8%-1%. There’s a vast underreporting of cases in China. Compared to Sars and Mers we are talking about a coronavirus that has a mortality rate of 8 to 10 times less deadly to Sars to Mers. So a correct comparison is not Sars or Mers but a severe cold. Basically this is a severe form of the cold.’ Professor John Nicholls Clinical professor in pathology, University of Hong Kong, expert on coronaviruses in China at the time of the outbreak What a lobotomised collection of hypochondriacs ‘Der Grosser… Read more »
I’m not a socialist but think it’s quite possible to have socialism without medico-fascism
Of course it is. It is socialism that leads to the supine acceptance of socialist health fascism.
Health fascism has been supinely accepted in many places with varying political traditions and leanings, though I would agree that places where right-wing libertarian culture is more prevalent (e.g. red states in the US) seem to have resisted more than most.
‘…many places with varying political traditions and leanings’
The developed world, the most supine because they can afford it (to the great detriment of the developing world), is pretty much exclusively democratic socialist with the exception of about 17 U.S. States, all that remains of the free world.
Sadly – that is not ironic – if the emergency jabs have bad side effects in the long term, more Democrats will be affected than Republicans.
I suggest you go peddle your political obsessions with the vague term ‘socialism’ somewhere else. I’m all in favour of free speech, but using a site focused on Covid for your irrelevant fixations is just self-indulgent. Its a diversion from intelligent discussion of the real issues.
I have asked you before not to reply unless you have a debating point to make. Silly atmospherics have no place on here and, as you cannot have failed to have noticed, are very much not appreciated.
Fascism is a form of Socialism
So very close to the 0.9% figure that Ferguson used. 0.8% would be a big problem for a fully susceptible population.
Did Ferguson use IFR or CFR?
This is CFR, and pretty much bang on:
‘our estimate of the CFR as of the 4th of August as 1.5% – and seemingly still falling.’
‘An alternative symptoms-to-death distribution parameterised on data from Stockholm yields an estimate of 1.4%, which is also falling.’
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/the-declining-case-fatality-ratio-in-england/
But all that must be heavily caveated as a consequence of poor data. ‘There’s a vast underreporting of cases in China.’ Prof John Nicholls
Data for mortality of whatever cause in many countries simply does not exist, as WHO acknowledges.
And there is no internationally accepted method of cause of death registration.
Mayo – you’re pissing in the wind.
As we don’t know about ‘deaths from Covid’, and testing is shot to hell, and the terminology is so abused, any statement about IFR and CFR is sheer guesswrk.
“That’s socialism for you”
You’d have to be a classic numpty knuckle-dragger of very little brain to believe that one.
The neoliberal free-market right have been in charge for 40 years, and Johnson and Co. are the nutter culmination of that.
Being a neoliberal free-marketeer doesn’t necessarily equate to fascism – the impulse emerges in many disguises – but pretending that it’s down to ‘socialism’ is just bat-shit delusion.
This is a democratic socialist country with a manifestly left of centre socialist government. They have outspent even Corbyn’s public spending plans. But why let the evidence get in the way of good old fashioned bigotry
Lockdown is communist and Kim Jong-Johnson is Prime Minister.
There it is then. Keep the psychological lockdown in place and reintroduce the physical one in the autumn.
Just like last summer but with far fewer people going abroad on holiday.
Last summer: no masks, no vaccines, no pandemic
Masks were introduced when lockdown 1. became lockdown lite supposedly to give confidence to the Covid timid to leave the house and go shopping.
Hence the mask hesitant* mantra ‘I will not be a prisoner of your fear’.
*Another to join the litany of words that have changed their meaning due to the nudge unit. Hostile now becomes ‘Hesitant’.
some medics are calling for “21 june” to be delayed by 2 months – that would take us to 21 august, in which case we would be on the cusp of autumn when as sure as eggs are eggs another lockdown is on the cards for us. What would be the point???
“What would be the point???” To keep the frogs simmering.
…to get you ready for your booster shot of course.
So no ending of lockdowns then? This would hilarious if it wasn’t so serious. I have this vision of Boris Johnson and the rest of his cabinet and advisors laughing their socks off wondering just how far they can keeping pushing this insane nonsense … just how incredibly wide-eyed and stupid are the British public. I suspect that we’re in Stockholm syndrome territory here – the public have been kept hostage for year now and endlessly mistreated and so now they have established an emotional bond with their abuser-in-chief at No.10. When I think about all those gullible fools out there who were eager to roll up there sleeves and get their jabs in the firm belief that when the government said that vaccinations were the exit out of lockdowns they were telling them the truth … dream on. This has been going on for over a year now – people have worn the masks, used the sanitizers, self isolated, they’ve kept their distance, followed the one-way systems in shopping malls, they’ve applauded the NHS and for the past few months they’ve had god-knows-what injected into their bodies …. and still the the penny hasn’t dropped yet. What is it… Read more »
Florida – tempting but very hard to get a Green Card
They have done a very good job of keeping the frogs simmering
As some pointed out at the start, we may have been better off with a full-on Wuhan style lockdown which would have been unsustainable (as it was even in China)
What happened in China? The plausible answer is that it saw, because the West explained it, that the disease only wiped out the economically inactive, so they simply stopped putting it on death certs. In China, I guess, the old still die in the old way.
The worrying data is the ZOE estimates of symptomatic cases. The numbers have been ticking up for about 3 weeks. I noticed it at the time but thought it might just be a minor blip. Cases, though, have doubled in less than 4 weeks.
ONS and government data tends to lag ZOE by a few days so further increases are likely to show up in the official figures in the coming days.
If the promised sunshine doesn’t halt the spread I think we can forget June 21st.
We could always forget June 21st and this has nothing to do with “cases”.
Symptomatic in the young. So loss of taste etc.
Good news.
I’ve lost a lot of faith in the ZOE project. Sadly I believe it’s ‘controlled opposition’, there to look like an alternative view but in reality another PsyOps channel.
Fuck off with cases, false positives from a not fit for purpose test
So they’ve got you with the Fear bug, Mayo. Hope you can get over it soon.
You need to keep an eye on the vax rollout, once that’s up to 95% they’ll think about opening, other than that I see no freedom o the horizon. It angers me every time someone tells me they’ve been jabbed, one more soldier of the resistance down.
Mask wearing is pseudo scientific nonsense, a means of control or a placebo for the masses. Never worn one, never will. I’m done with all of it.
Correct. I never have done either. The worrying thing is that so many people believe in the use of them – although not that surprising given the structure of education, unfortunately. After all, even some of the teachers believe in it!
It is so easy not to wear a mask. I have only worn twice during the last 15 months and that was to an NHS dentist. I walk around, travel on public transport and do all my shopping maskless only challenged a couple of times. I stare in wonderment at all the fools who wear without bothering to consider the evidence against. So many chant the mantra “out of courtesy to others”. What about courtesy to me? Really the biggest non reason ever.
Agree. “Really the biggest non reason ever.” esp. when you throw the argument back at them – like if they had to visit a Dr or Hospital for a medical procedure, would they expect you to accompany them? because after all, their health is all you care about!?
Would they be happy if someone took any sweets, chocolate, alcohol, & red meat out of their supermarket trolleys? because someone wants to make sure that their health is protected, because someone cares so much about another random stranger’s health, and is dedicated to the NHS & making sure it is never overwhelmed…
Out of interest I was looking at the geographical areas that are showing up as worse on the infections hot-spot map. On the two that I have looked at – Bolton and Bedford, they are both in or on the border of the local main hospital, where I am guessing a large number of hospital workers live. The thing I am not clear about is whether nosocomial infections are listed as the area where their hospital is, or their home address.
At the most local level stats are provided by local council wards.
We had an unusual jump in cases back in January in a ward that Local Live was keen to remind us contained a high proportion of student households.
What they didn’t say was that the ward included HMP which is where those cases actually were.
Anyone got any news from London?
The RT stream parked themselves outside the police barricade into Downing street, the language was colourful!
June 21st = The Longest day (Surely one of the most boring films ever made), but if us sceptics can gain a foothold (beachhead) by not social distancing, not using hand sanitizer and not wearing masks, perhaps there will be a glimpse of the “Sunlit uplands”, if not, I fear that we are well and truly f×cked!
One of my favourite films off all time
Just my opinion, JP.
Something the Covideisters deny us sceptics.
True
It is of course. the summer solstice a pivotal date for Pagans. Wiccans and the Druids…Not Satanists…
Well it’s not the end of lockdown then is it?
Only when all the restrictions are removed including vaccine passports etc is it the end, not before.
I can’t find the goalposts. It’s seems at this point they’ve exited the stratosphere
Shove your vile jabs, you disgusting excuses for human beings. I’m hearing of more friends and family getting side effects, than of ANYONE getting the virus! One close friend had a stroke within a week of getting the AZ jab.
And did all these people report the side effects? I bet they didnt, thus far friends who have had the injection have suffered from the following, 2 days in bed with bad flu like symptoms immediately post injection, 1 friend eye sight in her left eye became distorted and she could not see through it properly, she had to have the lense replaced which she paid for privately, previously she hadn’t worn glasses even, the incident happened within days of the injection. She did not report it as a side effect as she couldn’t believe the injection would cause that to happen. 2 Another friend who had Hodgkins lymphoma 10 years ago stage 3 has been well since, but post jab she has had chest pains similar to the original cancer and is now having blood tests, again did not report 3 Her son 23 years was offered the injection at work he took it 2 weeks later he was lethargic, and losing weight, the Doctor took bloods he has Glandular fever with the added complication of it attacking his Liver. No reporting to the Doctor 4 two friends whose Periods have been affected heavy clotting etc. one with severe… Read more »
Muzzled is a horrendous way to live, just glad I’ve never succumbed to the propaganda and worn one.
masks and restrictions will cease when people take it upon themselves to stop and disobey
Not in my ‘Invasion of The Body Snatchers’ town…
I agree. But it’s going to be a long wait.
Once again, a Witch Doctator pretends restrictions are cautious when, in fact, caution requires the immediate ending of all restrictions