Cabinet Meets Amid Claims There is “Close to Nil” Chance of Lockdown Ending on June 21st
Boris Johnson is holding talks with his Cabinet today amid reports that there is “close to nil” chance that lockdown will end on June 21st because of fears about the Indian Covid variant. The MailOnline has the story.
Ministers are preparing emergency plans that could see local restrictions used to combat hotspots, or even the next stage of the roadmap delayed.
In an echo of the tiers system brought in last summer, people in the worst-hit areas could be told to stay at home and restaurants and shops forced to close – with stricken businesses handed more grants to keep them afloat.
There are also growing doubts about whether lockdown can be lifted across England on June 21st. Just a week ago Mr Johnson was holding out the prospect of a broad lifting of legal constraints and social distancing, but it now appears that a review of the rules is unlikely to report this month.
One Government source told ITV News that some of the loosening that took effect this week – including “Rule of Six” socialising indoors and in bars and restaurants – might have to be rolled back.
“It is clear some social distancing will have to be retained, not everything we’ve set out for June 21st is likely to happen,” they said.
“But it is also possible some of the easing we’ve done today will have to be reversed.”…
Tory ministers and MPs have been warning the PM against changing course, complaining that curbs must not be extended to protect people who are refusing vaccines – which are believed to be effective against the Indian variant.
One Cabinet minister warned that missing the June 21st milestone could become Mr Johnson’s “Theresa May moment” – a reference to her failed Brexit deadline.
“This freedom date is burned on people’s brains in the same way as her date for leaving the E.U.,” the source said. “When she missed it, she was finished.”
The source said Number 10 had “overreacted to panicked warnings from the usual suspects” in parts of the health establishment.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Boris has said there is not yet “conclusive” evidence that the roadmap will need to be altered and things will be clearer in “days”. MailOnline has more.
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I could have told them that back in January
What do numbskulls think these ‘variant’ fictions are all about?
An excuse, that’s what they’re all about.
Mike Yeadon has said in an interview posted by Dr Mercola that the covid virus differentiates from the indian variant by something like 0.03% in which case the vaccines should be able to cope with it and the proportion of the UK which has been vaccinated should therefore mean the UK does not have a problem with the indian variant – similarly because the virus differs in such small regard there should be no need for “booster jabs” to counteract it. Similarly anyone who has acquired natural immunity from having recovered from covid should also have sufficient immunity to cope with the variant. Isn’t it a great pity that the eminent scientists on whom the government is RELYING for their scientific advice cannot seem to explain these concepts to them, provided, of course, that this is ALL about a public health emergency.
I did, but was told not to be so negative.
Caption competition
‘The pig dictator is asked ‘How big is the covid lie?’
He’s showing us how many years this is planned to go on for.
Bigger than Churchill’s waistline
Stand away from me! I’ve had covid, I’ve been vaxxed, I wear a mask, but we still need to maintain social distancing!
“Boris Johnson goes to Al Jolson revival”.
Apparently his ‘real’ name is Al ..
SAGE have now advised palm reading to predict course of virus
Soothsaying has more scientific basis than the modelling used at imperial college.
I said the other day, but it got deleted almost immediately, that if we gave up modelling even for just one week, this ‘crisis’ would be over within days, because the government is panicking not about what is ACTUALLY happening, but about what MIGHT happen
“Could someone disarm that lockdown sceptic pointing a shotgun at me?“
“Look, I can count up to eleven!”
There is no public appetite for this, is there? A lot were fooled back in by the variant trick in December, but I think those who were waiting for the jab, have done it and won’t support it.
Also, if this really is about the great unvaxxed, why have there been no recorded reinfections leading to deaths, but plenty of the vaccinated have died of/with?
“There is no public appetite for this, is there?”
You want to bet?
There was a time when the Bond scenario of injecting the whole world would have been dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic.
They are loving it
Let’s see: most people, even the most compliant, have now had a taste of the freedom which has been removed from them. Hopefully this will fire them up for more.
But will they notice any freedom has been taken away? If the’ve been vaccinated they’ll be eligible for the Digital Compliance ID. Once they have that they will be allowed to go to pubs, restaurants, gyms, concerts etc unmasked, only having to tap their phone on some entry device. It will feel pretty much as before, then. That’s the plan I think .
Normalisation of the prison walls. Institutionalisation.
I think that’s why refusing the vaccine isn’t just a medical choice. It’s about trust.
Outlaw passports and investigate vaccine deaths properly. Then we can talk about my health.
yes today’s mail headline about everything being spoiled by the refuseniks would seem that that is indeed the way they plan to go
Hate that word ‘refusnik’. That’s government language. I’m a declinist
Having sat in the rain drinking for the past few weeks many will see being allowed inside the pub as enhanced freedom akin to abandoning National Service in the 1960s.
No. I don’t think that they are. Some, perhaps, like those who voted for Johnson in the first place but not the majority.
It seems to me that they are trying to create the conditions by which they can present limited “freedoms” to the vaccinated, through the digital ID (which was introduced yesterday), and deny those “freedoms” to the unvaccinated.
That will do a great deal to mop-up some more of the “vaccine hesitant” adults, before they move onto vaccinating small children in September, upon their return to school.
And then the rest of us will be moved to internment camps by the end of the year.
I do wish people would stop saying this sort of thing. We all know it’s not impossible that this could happen, but still unlikely. All it’s doing is replacing one ‘living in fear’ (indulged in by 90% of the population) with another ‘living in fear’. It’s sapping, it’s just too much. I don’t want to live every day depressed and scared.
Sorry but in more ways than one he is right. It is all about singling out the unvaccinated, it is 1936 Berlin all over again. We will be ostracised and we will be singled out because we are now “unclean” just as the Jews, the disabled and the non-whites were unclean.
Somebody asked me the other day what I thought my chances were, this time next year, of either being dead or in some form of extreme confinement, as opposed to being relatively free.
I said, quite honestly, that I didn’t think the chances were any higher than 50/50.
I really don’t think that is an unreasonable assessment.
At least we won’t get it in the camps which will be covid free zones while the ‘free’ world will still be locked down.
They’ll be demanding to be let in and we’ll be like, no vaxxed allowed, shove off.
I know, and I’m equally to blame for sometimes projecting my fears onto others about what could be perceived as the inevitable outcome. It’s as bad as the promoting of Covid fear. I often wonder if what we read and see in the “truth” movement, is actually engineered to promote fear, almost so that people are left with a “damned if you do, damned if you dont” attitude. Maybe it’s self-preservation to think the worse, as we try to come to terms with the extraordinary and frightening situation being bestowed on us by a government, who has never, ever had so control over our individual rights and freedoms. We live in a post-truth world, where everything seems to be inverted. We are all going to have to find all our strength and energy to fight this in every and any, way we can. Have faith. Our numbers ARE growing, and the government know this, and they are worried! Look at how the media completely shutdown the protest marches. Can’t have this getting out to the still aleep! But it s too late, the cat is out of the bag…
‘promote fear’. Good point. Also, if discussions about ‘internment camps’ get bandied about too much, it could be self-fulfilling prophecy!
But Deborah! They’re going to start injecting children shortly. Putting the likes of us into concentration camps would be be a piece of cake for them in ethical terms, by comparison.
I really don’t think anything I’m saying is overblown, however depressing it might be. The government seems absolutely determined to go all the way: effective mandatory “vaccination” (with regular top-ups), digital identification for all activities (dependent on vaccination status), effective mandatory injection of children, and continued lockdowns.
These people are NUTS! I think we have to prepare ourselves for the worst.
Mike Yeadon has said he believes it is about a depopulation agenda – combined with CCP social credit – and every day I see great reset kind of news items that nobody seems to be joining the dots on. UBI in Wales, IEA announcing no more gas fired boilers after 2025 to name just a few in the last couple of days, and added to the overreaction about the indian scariant would support his conclusion.
They’ll be very pleased to hear that you don’t want to live. That’s doing WEFs work for them
I think it’s obedience training really.
We are treated like cattle/pets by the establishment.
The obedience training comes out when we ignore the propaganda such as their Brexit scares etc and hit them in the pocket/egos.
Yeah, looking forward to seeing you there.
I recall expressing my surprise when I first heard ‘nobody is safe until the whole world is vaccinated’ from some fringe Influencer a mere two to three months ago.
My main concern was the sheer cost to the West (relative to the fact that the populationsof ‘developing’ nations are overwhelmingly young and thus effectively immune) and the logistical impossibility.
Yet here we are, government predictably using it as yet another excuse to extend lockdown.
“Whole world vaccination” is as ridiculous a notion as “Zero Covid”. If the stuff works, then fine, although sticking needles into 7+ billion people, many of whom will run a mile from the witchdoctor with the syringe (if indeed he can find them), is sheer fantasy.
If the jollop doesn’t work for all these “variants”, then I presume the 7+ billion souls will be embarked upon an endless, Sisyphean round of revaccinations. That presumes a latterday Mengele doesn’t come up with another administration method. Perhaps it might be added to the water supply or Soylent Green, which we will no doubt be consuming before long. Another way might be to spray it from the air like Agent Orange.
don’t give them ideas
A needle stabbing a human arm, forever
In the words of the great Ray Purchase: “Well, well, well…” The manipulating, gas lighting b@stards…as if we couldn’t guess that they were going to lie to us YET again, and still the morons won’t see.
It’s not ‘worth reading in full’, it literally adds nothing to what we already knew: we have a government incapable of critcally assessing risk, of critically analysing data, of critically questioning ‘The Science’. We have a leader who, having desired power all his life, and having recieved what he wanted, has abdicated his responsibility to a totalitarian, authoritarian and technocratic public health lobby, which has gradually been growing in power over the last 20 years, worming its way into the heart of the state like a cancer, and is now inoperable: to remove it is to acknowledge that the last year has been a collosal mistake, and to acknowledge that is to end this government, and quite possibly end credibility in the state itself. Quite simply, either we learn to live with the risk of COVID or we spend the rest of our days impoverished, imprisoned, unable to flourish, in deepest inhumanity. This cannot be blamed on those unwilling to take up vaccination: our freedom is not predicated on the willingness of people to take experimental treatment. Nor does this make any sense: if the vaccine protects it will protect against ‘varients’, if it doesn’t then we have to unlock… Read more »
I’m not too fussed. Last night was a bit weird being in a bar with the lights on….
“We have a leader who, having desired power all his life, and having recieved what he wanted, has abdicated his responsibility”
I’m sick of hearing these excuses for Mr Toad – who has always been a psychopathic narcissist and liar – as Eddie Maier memorably faced him with.
He is responsible. Full stop.
Well indeed. I wasn’t making any excuses for him, the buck stops with him but he has basically reduced himself to rubber stamping dictacts from socialist fearmongers.
The point I’m making is that he has chosen this route, as surely as participants in the Wansee conference chose the Final Solution.
I agree, he is responsible, I don’t think I deny that in the top post!
Sorry, Thomas, if I over-interpreted. I’m just sick of seeing ‘Poor Boris’ stuff, when he’s always been a lying, self-seeking Toad for anyone with political knowledge – whatever their allegiances. A vote for Mr Toad was always like putting your hand up when the class is asked ‘Who’s as thick as pigshit?” (I feel the same about a vote for Starmer, and he’s a less obvious case – it’s not simply partisan)
Unfortunately we seem, as a society, to have taken the decision to remain Imprisioned and impoverished permanently. Let us not forget this is all over a virus which 99% of people make a full recovery from.
More than 99% for the vast majority.
Folds? The man is already an ironing board stored in a cupboard waiting for whoever is in fashion to press their foetid Y-fronts on him.
but what about his wedding Thomas? would imagine he is under a certain amount of pressure to make sure that goes ahead, no?
It all ties in nicely with this:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57149059
We are only going to get our old lives back if we take it by force. No more “kum – by – ya`s” outside the wretched bbc offices, now it has to be mass civil disobedience.
Wow, just look at the BBC’s ‘featured’ articles down the right hand side. It’s been quite some time since I’ve visited the BBC site, so it’s shocking to see how disgusting they’ve become with their degenerate manipulation. To think people pay the BBC by default under threat of prosecution… anyone here who still pays BBC: STOP. Pull out your aerial, cancel your direct debit and complete the short online form to cancel your licence.
Did that 15 years ago.
Done
Did it fifteen months ago and it felt great. How can people pay for an organisation that is actively repressing them. I give up on the human race; I really do.
Stopped paying and watching quite a while ago. It’s even been a long time since I’ve looked at the web-site, but might start looking if things get more serious.
“If you know your enemy and know yourself, in a hundred battles you will never be defeated”
Ready and willing.
Let’s get this right.
Amongst all the ire directed at the BBC (always, ultimately, under establishment control), those calling the shots are Tory Party appointees and in cahoots with the appointed Mr Toad.
This is a new ‘nudge’ by the government to stir up massive resentment towards those who do not comply with government demands.
Pick a variant, any variant.
Even the situation in India isn’t playing ball any more, is it? It has disappeared from the front pages.
East Cheam Variant
The Devon Variant
Is that the Clotted one?
Now that Hancock made sense
They called it the Indian Variant to make Daily Mail commenters appear a bit racist when they complain about the government not cancelling flights from that country sooner.
‘All them diseased people flooding in from Covid hotspot India (which, as we know, it isn’t) bringing it back with them’.
This is from event Two OH One, y’know the event, in october 2019 hosted by The John hopkins institute, WEF and Gates Institute, this whole C-19 thing has been loosely scriped by this event..and- The scenario ends at the 18-month point, (in this particular case Sept 2021) with 65?- million deaths. The pandemic is beginning to slow due to the decreasing number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue at some rate until there is an effective vaccine or until 80-90 % of the global population has been exposed. From that point on, it is likely to be an endemic childhood disease.
It won’t be a childhood disease.
It will be like the flu, killing off sick elderly.
will they won’t they? It’s getting quite exciting!
This is a win win for the dictator
If there is no reaction he knows he can carrying on regardless
If there is a reaction those involved will be branded as terrorists and even more draconian rules brought in
Typical of the bullying taught at public schools
I never expected lockdown to be lifted in June so not surprised or disappointed
Agreed, and I will not hesitate to say I told you so to all the sheeple who looked blankly at me when I told them what to expect.
Yes!
I think the current relaxation is intended so that the stupid unvaccinated can be blamed when there is an upsurge. Then it will be reversed again.
Actually not much sign of an upsurge yet, more people dying from the vaccine than fom the virus
Why is there never any acknowledgement ATL that this is what has been predicted BTL for months, many months by some even down to use of scariants to justify holding back from a return to normal. We are seeing something unfold from a playbook not from reaction to events.
It is blindingly obvious to all except it seems Toby and MC here that the Government is creating a bridge to the introductiion of a Digital Compliance ID system. This to be done by a PM who once claimed he would rather eat an ID card than show it to a government official.
Doesn’t all this appear the slightest bit odd to Toby?
I’m afraid Toby is suffering from estrangement from the family.
For anyone still labouring under delusions about the efficacy of the snake oil, this article by Norman Fenton (an uncompromised statistician obviously not chasing a gong or an appointment), is a dose of reality. (See Round Up) :
https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2021/05/important-caveats-to-pfizer-vaccine.html
“It is also worth noting that, even if we ignore all of the above issues and accept as undisputed the number for ‘COVID-19 related deaths’ in the Israel study (715 among the unvaccinated and 138 among the vaccinated), then the absolute percentage increase in risk of death for an unvaccinated person is just 0.036%. That means that, even if we accept the 95% effectiveness measure, for every 10,000 unvaccinated people, about 3 or 4 would die as a result of not being vaccinated. And this brings us to the final (and critical) problem with the study. It does not provide any information about the number of adverse reactions – in particular the number of deaths – due to the vaccine. Hence, it does not provides the necessary information to make an informed decision about the overall risk/benefit of the vaccine.”
Even if we assume the vaccines are safe, there is possible that there is not much benefit to be gained by having the vaccine this late in the ‘pandemic’.
If the vaccine had been introduced in January 2020 then it might have been worth having it.
While you might not agree with this, the Absolute Risk takes into account the risk of actually catching the virus in the first place. If the whole population is at risk then the risk is higher than if only 20% of the population is at risk.
Remember the total risk of death throughout the pandemic is less than 0.2%
That should be population risk. Countries across Europe are reporting between 0.1% and 0.3% of population has died from/with Covid.
Of course. But that’s the point : that is the real risk., upon which we should base real life choices – including the information on harms.
There is good – if not conclusive – evidence that the small risk is best managed by wide availability of safe prophylactic drugs rather than a coin toss on an untested snake oil.
I think any intelligent observer will note the inconsistent ‘cake and eat it’ (‘It’s our salvation … no it isn’t) nonsense about the vaccine that comes from government and Big Pharma. Thus he need for propaganda rather than information, and the blanking of alternatives.
“ the total risk of death throughout the pandemic is less than 0.2%”
No it’s not … that’s the CFR. As you say – you’ve got to be unlucky enough to catch it first : thus the relevance of the ARR.
The ARR doesn’t tell the whole story, but if it’s missing, you know you’re being spun a yarn.
The UK death rate per million is ~1900 which is 0.19% of the whole population.
Death rate from what? Of? With? Hit by bus within 28 days of a test?
What? The vaccines don’t protect us? I’m shocked, shocked.
Spot where the vaccine programme begins…
Yep. It’s just before the December cliff-like rise in deaths
Quiz (no looking up): Looking only at the graph, on which date did the Israeli vaccine programme begin?
Here comes Thailand
Disingenuous Mountebanks! A pox on their subliminal chicanery!
The only surprise to me is that they allowed the loosening of restrictions yesterday. All vulnerable people have now been vaccinated and we are well on the way to getting the whole population vaccinated. It is now abundantly clear that this is not about controlling a virus but imposing a new world order and very onerous controls of the whole population. The world we knew in 2019 is gone and will never return. We are now living in a totalitarian nightmare and there is no way out. This is compounded by the fact that most people seem perfectly happy with this state of affairs.
There is an out, it just needs enough people to choose to take it. The level of recent piss take may help in this regard.
Well you would hope so but sadly most people still don’t seem to be able to wake up.
probably because there is something in those 2 jabs they have had which has numbed their brains – I am definitely experiencing a kind of ~”zombification” with people I know who have been vaccinated – a kind of uncomprehending blankness when you try to explain things to them
Yes I know exactly what you mean. It is always a good thing for tyrants that most people don’t think.
I’ve practically given up talking about this to those I meet in person. They mostly look at me with heartfelt sympathy for my irrational standpoint. Either that or they move on quickly to avoid the ‘unclean ‘ one, despite them already lapping up the “vaccine”. Anyone else feel like they are living in “Logan’s Run” or “Westworld”?
And yet people still refuse to admit to what is really going on. When I ask OH if he isn’t now just a teensie weensie bit suspicious that this is all about control via ID cards / social credit systems aka China, he now just refuses to discuss it with me on the basis that we might disagree and have a row.
Methinks he just doesn’t want to ever say that I have been right all along!
I think also that some people simply do not want to face up to what is happening.
definitely – easier to just bury head in sand or put fingers in ears and sing “la la la” than actually acknowledge what now seems to be the painful truth that we have been had on a grand scale and that things are going to get very much worse
Yes exactly.
The ultimate end result in the long run for those people who bury their heads in the sand is that they will either find themselves been marched into the gas chamber or starving to death in the wreckage of a destroyed country. History has shown this to be the case time and time again for regimes such as the one we find ourselves living under.
It’s probably akin to political affiliation, or supporting a particular football team.
It’s very difficult to change allegiance. It takes a long time, and people really don’t like admitting they have been wrong.
Keep at it, gently. People can change their minds. Once upon a time, I was very much in the gun control lobby. I believed people didn’t need guns as a constitutional right. Now, I’d be more than happy to be armed to the teeth, and I totally get it.
Me too re guns.
And me, I could never understand the American obsession, now I would be looking to join a local militia group!
They can all do one – roasting on a spit would be too good for the fat porker and his piglets.
A friend who works for Public Health England told us in March that the next Lockdown is planned from August or September. She was 100% sure of this.
I’ve been waiting for a bridge to be built to then and now it has …
If so, it won’t be eased unitl the following spring, if at all.
Sometimes, only expletives will do.
Is Boris or Whitty playing the role of Mr Morden?
To paraphrase a comedian about the Indian variant
Bolton has the Indian variant
then Blackburn
then Bedford
Basingstoke and Bracknell are Sh~~ting themselves now
Squeezing the vaccinated so that their moral compass eventually shifts from “it’s on them if they get hospitalised” to “it’s on them if they are outside the vaccine pass system with no access to services”.
Jim Davidson is going to out of a job if this picture keeps being used.
Isn’t this just a distraction from the need that Bonking Billy Gates has been having it away? (Hence the D-I-V-O-R-C-E).
Worth Reading In Full: https://nypost.com/2021/05/16/bill-gates-allegedly-had-affair-with-microsoft-employee/
Why is that ‘worth reading’?
Because you need the practice and Mummy is busy.
The Gates’ divorce certainly appears to be interesting timing, bear in mind that (in the US certainly) married couples cannot be made to testify against one other in any potential legal proceeding. Notice now, the news reports indicating that Gates & Epstein were extremely pally, to the point that Gates reportedly sought Epstein’s advice on matrimonial issues for years over the period of “dozens of meetings”… quite a sea change from literally just days ago, when it was reported that Gates had basically no idea who Epstein was, and though he had been on his plane it was just once, by accident… also the Seattle news reports about a 2020 arrest of a pedo literally detained at Gates’ house — someone somewhere is gunning for Billy G all right. Presumably Gates remembers the day clearly as he was at a Pizza Express in Woking at the time; it’s unusual for him to go to a Pizza Express in Woking, you see 🙂
“Cases” currently stand at an average of 4 positive results in 1000 tests done. Statistical noise.
“Deaths following a positive COVID test” currently stand at an average of 11 per day, down from a peak of 1253.
If this Indian variant is something to be afraid of, I’m not sure where the evidence is. “Cases” in the doldrums, “Deaths from COVID” in the doldrums, the NHS manifestly coping effortlessly with demand. Well, demand from COVID patients at least.
It’s almost as if this story is COMPLETE BOLLOX designed to spread FEAR AND PANIC for POLITICAL REASONS.
To make the people hate the unvaccinated.
“It’s almost as if this story is COMPLETE BOLLOX designed to spread FEAR AND PANIC for POLITICAL REASONS.”
Where on earth did you get idea from? Wash your mouth out you naughty person you.
Love him or loathe him the only leader who was not singing from the davos reset hymn sheet was Donald Trump, and they got rid of him.
Apart from a few US Red State Governors, yes.
Don’t forget good old Magufuli..
Don’t get sentimental about a total idiot just because, like a stopped clock, he got bits right from time to time. If he opposed his opposition, he was bound to – it’s not a sign of intelligence – look at the fuck-up he left behind in Jerusalem.
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Whatever you think of him and his actual record, you must admit he had a fairly rare quality among politicians which was to be prepared to say the unsayable. He was a disappointment – if he’d had his head on a bit straighter and a bit more focus he could have been a useful ally against coronamadness, because I do think he instinctively saw it as bollocks.
Top Man hope he runs again.
Trump had too much dirt on his fellow elites for that to happen
“Millions enjoy new freedoms” says the BBC. Oh ffs
Those who lived under the old communist regimes in eastern europe discovered that when they decided enough was enough the authoritarian communist governments toppled one by one and the peoples freedoms were returned. So you can understand why east europeans are still very mistrustful of all governments – past experience proves they are absolutely right to be wary – I fear we in the UK have become too trusting of government … especially governments like this one who have willingly deployed the fear tools of totalitarianism to control the public.
This will not end until we say it does and people in this country and elsewhere need to understand that this is the only exit out of this covid madness – when we say enough is enough.