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karenovirus
4 years ago

I saw articles last week suggesting that in India the relatively well off were paying to get themselves into hospital when not actually ill thus denying beds to those turning up later seemingly at deaths door.

No doubt those at the top of Indias racist caste hierarchy are the beneficiaries leaving those at the bottom at the mercy of charities.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

If the Indian charities are acting in the same craven way as British charities, they won’t have any mercy at all. God help poor Indians. Even that one with multiple arms (all vaccinated of course, deities get priority) will have its work cut out.

karenovirus
4 years ago

“Anyone can see no-one’s obeying Covid rules anymore”. Telegraph.
Ross Clark tells us ‘ . . . the public is leading the government out of lockdown’.

Do keep up Ross, we’ve been giving examples of that for months. The only time plenty of people pretend to conform is when there is someone around to enforce the rules, be that the police or a publican.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

We’ve just had three electricians round to check a fault, and it was only after they left I realised none of them were wearing masks while in my house, and none of them ‘distanced’.

I wish I’d realised at the time because I would have asked them about it.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I had the opposite experience last week when I invited a couple of delivery/installation people to take off their masks.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

There was a great deal of discussion here at LS about that during lockdown lite (last summer); the prevailing view seemed to be that tradesmen (inc. women) and White Van Man had a firmer grip on reality and knew that masks was pointless at best.

There was usually a bit of ‘don’t mind me mate’ rather than simple non compliance as you describe.
I would call that progress.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s not as simple as that.

No-one who was genuinely opposed to the Tory narrative as it has been revealed would still be supporting the Tories. Yet look at the polls (and yes, I have factored in the uselessness of Starmer) .They would also simply be abandoning masks indoors and playing pop about the loss of liberties. Getting the government on the run would be easy. But they’re not doing this, and are lapping up the vaccines like starved curs.

People actually do support the bullshit that they have been fed.

… but they disobey it in specific instances. That is disobedience – not revulsion or rebellion.

OK – it’s better than nothing, but watch out for never-ending vaccines and passports and fake epidemics.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

They disobey not out of principle but for personal convenience.
They are lapping up the vaccines like starved curs as you say, not because they believe in them but so that they can go to the pub and Majorca for a fortnight.

Who mentioned the Tories and their narrative except for Starmer who said they should have been harsher?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Simple … it is a Tory narrative primarily. They’re the government. They instigated it. They have the ability to reel it back. Starmer’s lap-dog uselessness doesn’t subvert that fact.

karenovirus
4 years ago

“Bald men up to 2.5 times more likely to suffer severe Covid . . .” Daily Mail

Same logical fallacy as thinking that ‘people with poor eyesight earn more money’ means anything even though it is true.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Old men are the most likely group to suffer severe illness. Who’d of thunk it?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Slaphead for 30 years.
Fit as “Bozzer’s” dog.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well my experience of the aftermath of Covid is that masses of my hair fell out. So if you lived to tell the tale, (which most of us did), you probably did emerge balder. And if you didn’t, no one knew. Such a load of old cobblers.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

As long as there is plenty of peroxide for the “Bozzer’s” hair.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think the movie They Live does a great job of reminding the viewer that advertising and marketing in general almost always has a sinister motivation. The most interesting observation is when he looks at the money in his hand and the writing tells him it is god. John Carpenter is clearly telling the viewer that the banks believe they own us.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Never seen it…

karenovirus
4 years ago

Well worth it if you can put up with the protagonists mullet.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Classic correlation confusion.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

But lots of bald men will now queue up for their vaccinations. What will be studied next ? Duran Duran fans more likely to suffer severe covid than Spandau Ballet fans???

karenovirus
4 years ago

“NHS jab booking site leaks peoples vaccine status” Guardian.

They report that visitors to the site need to know their NHS number to proceed but in the absence of that a few basic personal details will suffice.

During my recent unplanned overnight stay in hospital various medical professionals asked me for my NHS number in order to access my medical records. Since I did not have it to hand simply confirming my name and date of birth was enough for them to proceed.

Presumably an employer or other interested party could go online and do the same.

Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve just been to NHS Digital to confirm this …. indeed, just my name, date of birth and postcode are enough to reveal that I need to make an appointment for both jabs.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I’ve queried a couple of times recently why is it that if the Government is paying either £5.00 or £10.00 a time for its twice a week mass testing programme it allows the lucky members if its private testing Cartel to charge anywhere between £60.00 and £300.00 for travellers returning to the UK ?

Seems TUI might have sorted that particular state sanctioned rip off.
(Other travel operators please note).

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PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You’ll get them 3 for a pand at the local market soon.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

BOGOF

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

99p.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m surprised they haven’t [yet] introduced a lottery to encourage testing uptake. You can imagine the dumb public getting excited about opening their test kit to see if they’ve won a few quid, then ramming the test stick up their nose when it’s a losing ticket.

karenovirus
4 years ago

All on me own again; when do you people wake up?

“A Global Conspiracy? This Book makes me think again” CW.
‘ Covid 19 and the global predators, we are the prey’. Peter and Ginger Breggin.

Covers many of the areas of concern relating to the powers-that-would-be taking over our lives and not in a good way. I’m sure there will be lots of interesting detail but there are no knew areas of substance identified in this review.

This toward the end of Neville Hodgkin’s piece.
“It is a wonder that China has enough resources or connections to buy the souls of so many scientists around the world”.

China has plenty of resources, even if much of it is US debt, Bill Gates has plenty more plus the connections.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Income Tax says the states owns you
An “NHS” says the state owns your body.

It’s as simple as that.

Removing Schedule A tax gave the game away and made sure the “welfare” state exists for the welfare of the establishment.

karenovirus
4 years ago

🤔

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

‘Global conspiracy?’. A commenter on this piece sums up my feelings viz not being able to decide on whether this whole debacle is a nefarious deliberate act or a massive human error born of mankind’s desire to play god. Guess I’ll wait for hindsight!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

There was a phrase kicking about a month or so ago, a tidier version of ‘vested interests jumping on the bandwagon’.

Convergent . . ?

bluemoon
bluemoon
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

opportunism.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Thank you.

Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Schwab called it a narrow window of opportunity.. etc.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, that would seem logical. But is that just me reluctant to go the Great Reset explanation?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

It’s a bit of both, the instigators of the Great Reset might allow the bandwagon jumpers a free ride as useful idiots but will throw them under the bus as soon as they become inconvenient (here’s looking at you Greta).

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Plans are out of date
HeadsIWinTailsYouLose scenarios are what they use.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

I’ve been having some delightful discussion with socialists who are asserting with passion approaching frenzy that we have a moral obligation to gift our vaccines to India. It’s not about money, they insist, it’s that we’re all in it together in the war against the China Virus.

When I note that India is still far, far behind us in deaths with/from the China Virus, and ask them why, if it’s not about money and only about lives, India didn’t gift vaccines to us, well, it turns out that its is about money.

Or more specifically, about their attitude that the space-age nuclear power India which is busily engaged in buying up what’s left of our industry and infrastructure is actually a helpless charity case.

We’re rich, they’re poor, and so they deserve gibs. Socialists gotta socialise, I guess.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

3 consecutive pieces in the roundup on the subject.

Kirsty Allsopp stick to what you’re good at, Harry and Meghan ditto.

Professor Jay Bhattacharya on the other hand has qualifications and experience to make it worth reading him make the same argument.

crazypaving
crazypaving
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Kirsty Allsop is a sceptic to be fair. Read her tweets, she’s anti lockdown.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving

She’s recently realised I think that falling house affordability is NOT good for the general economy.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving

I know of her name as a telly celeb but nothing else; I’ll take a look, thanks.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

The Indian death rate looks low if you consider the whole country. Look at the worst states and the rate is comparable to the worst rates in the UK (this January). For example, Delhi reported an average of 375 deaths a day over the last seven days. If you allow for relative populations that equivalent to 1322 deaths a day in the UK. Our worst seven day average was about the 24th Jan (I am taking it off the graph and I think this is the highest point) and was 1240. Add to that that the Indian death rates are almost certainly grossly undercounted – a lot of people are dying at home and it just isn’t getting recorded.

karenovirus
4 years ago

“Is Bill Gates a nice man in a jumper ?” CW.

Kate Dunlops wide ranging piece includes Gates using ‘fact checkers’ to censor evidence that he said ‘we will need digital vaccine passports and implanted microchips’ some time before Covid.

It could be thought that implanted chips might be rather complicated and expensive, not so.
One of my favourite YouTube channels is run by a South African charity that looks after orphaned Vervet monkeys. Each week they post a lengthy video as another batch of baby Vervets are slowly introduced to prospective adoptive mums.
A telling moment occurs in one when the human handler quite casually says off camera
‘I’ll just check that Rocky’s chip is in and working’ at which she pointed a small device at baby Rocky and yes it was.

This charity runs on a shoestring, depending on volunteers to do the donkey work, yet find it worthwhile to Track’n’Trace umpteen monkeys with implants that will soon be released into the wild.
Must be cheap as chips and not very complicated to operate.

karenovirus
4 years ago

‘The Censorship Pandemic’.

The other day I received a ‘pop up’ message purporting to be from Microsoft.
It wasn’t very long but was rather terse.

The gist of it was to remind me of Microsoft’s Terms & Conditions (link) and that failure to abide by them could result in me being unable to use one or more of their products.
I deleted it of course and didn’t give it much thought but it now occurs to me; was it a veiled threat to deny me access to the internet or even switch off my phone because they don’t like the sort of stuff I post here ?
A year ago I would have thought that ridiculous but now, who knows ?

It reminds me that the very first step the nazis took against Jewish intellectuals and academics was to confiscate their typewriters, the main medium of exchange at the time.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes. There are many things happening now that we would have considered ridiculous a year ago. There were warnings of course but they were dismissed as being overly alarmist and veering into ‘conspiracy’.

Amari
Amari
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I had a similar message. The question is: how do we extract ourselves from Microsoft?

J4mes
4 years ago

Bald men are up to 2.5 times more likely to suffer severe COVID-19 than males with a full head of hair, study warns

This claim follows close behind the “news” that you can supposedly tell whether you’ve had covid by looking at the lines in your fingernails.

Surely even those who are scared of this illusive phantom virus will be getting stupidly bored of it by now.

Amari
Amari
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Carl Vernon gives his take on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKXv_XYRJcI

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

“the experts believe the risk of clotting now outweighs that of Covid in younger adults”

Experts must be anyone who can do basic maths…

If you think you’ve had COVID, DO NOT RISK THE JAB.

JayBee
4 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UKwhZu2x5iA
This is a must watch/translate.
Any British ENT specialist should be able to produce and the same.
Shame on them that they didn’t sofar.
This German doctor explains very understandably that and why the nasal swabs performed for the tests are very dangerous and that they constitute a criminal deriliction of duty and GBH as performed currently (or result in absolutely useless probes and results).
Stop them NOW!
Refuse them!

RickH
4 years ago

For the first time in my life, I spoiled my ballot paper.

But I have no illusions that this does anything useful – it was just utter despair at having no party that I could endorse.

In the end, lack of engagement and lack of real options simply gives the establishment a free pass. See Hartlepool, indeed – that 44% actively backed the most incompetent and venal, lying government in living memory.

No – disengagement plays into the hands of those who have created what we’ve got.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Normally I would not shed a tear about Labour losing what should be a rock solid seat but fear this result will only encourage bozo in his lunacy.

Amari
Amari
4 years ago

“Anyone can see nobody’s obeying Covid rules anymore” I wish this was true of the mask mandate.