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JayBee
4 years ago

If the spike protein itself is the source of trouble as the SALK article suggests, the gene therapied and now perennially spike protein producing zombies are in deep sh*t.

ThomasPelham
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I thought this too, what exactly is the difference between their “spike protein without the ability to replicate” and the MRNA/monkey viruses which are essentially, well, spike proteins without the ability to replicate?

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

So the spike protein doesn’t need to replicate because the cells infiltrated by the mRNA will produce the spike corona from the virus. But when does it stop? Because to judge by the fatalities emerging in young people, the cell, (complete with spike protein generator) isn’t stopping producing spike protein. And the immune system isn’t quietly mopping up the dodgy mRNA spike producing cells. It’s going into overdrive and clotting, killing its human host. Which suggests that the spike production is going into overdrive, and mimicking viral replication.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

This is what is troubling me. So much do that I’m actually not going to write down what I think is happening, and what will happen.

But suffice it to say, we are not free, and that clip has shades of the Weimar Republic about it.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

CJD?

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Actually yes and no. Though it has just dawned on me that Foot and Mouth and the burning pyres that went with that might have been about covering up prion protein contamination of the food chain, which will have found its way into vaccines through geletine.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Which vaccines? Ones at the time of foot and mouth or modern ones?

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

This ‘new’ report only confirms two things which have been known for months, but totally and criminally ignored. 1) The spike sticks onto the ACE2 receptor. Western medicines of the ACE inhibitor kind regularly prescribed will exacerbate this enormously. 12 months or more ago S Korean scientists pointed to this, it was summarily dismissed in the west as they knew that trying to withdraw ACE inhibitor drugs would be incredibly difficult. So they continued with their use and no doubt in older people contributed to their deaths. 2) All the recent work of Bhakdi et al has pointed to the vaccine ‘spikes’ as dangerous in the bllod stream as they will attach and kill cells of the veins and capilliaries. This will cause the immune system to attack and form blood clots. Bhakdi expects the mRNA vaccines because of the gel used to protect the mRNA will gravitate to the area with the most vulnerable spots, the brain. Which is why he and his colleagues believe that the more of these jabs you get the higher the odds of serious illness and death. And because the blood with the mRNA might take some time to get there it could be… Read more »

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

THIS is what is troubling me. Thank you for saying it.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

When you say “delayed effect” how long exactly are we theorising?

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Yes I remember the observation that ACE inhibitors might increase the likelihood of infection. Also I think there was some evidence that ARBs (which work through a different pathway) might make it less likely.

Someone recently wrote of a plan to put everyone on blood pressure medication. I suspect these will be ACE inhibitors whose main side effect is a cough. ARBs have fewer side effects but are (were?) more expensive. Anthing to keep the “virus deaths” up

crazypaving
crazypaving
4 years ago

That Observer article is just so depressing. Absolutely no balance. No challenge to the ‘experts’ opinions. Just another nudge to accept the continued restrictions and one suggestion we should wear mandatory masks in winter to stop flu. It’s disgusting but sadly I think we’ll get 3 months of limited restrictions before they start to reappear for 6/9 months over autumn and winter under the guise of protecting the NHS. And the morons will go back to clapping.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crazypaving

What would you expect from the Sunday Guardian?

crazypaving
crazypaving
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Absolutely expected, but sadly so many who read it lap up every word as fact.

ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago

“Yeah right” to the lyrics – given that they had to submit to a test before being allowed in.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

The lyrics are meaningless Orwellian double speak, under the circumstances they probably only refer to the vaccinated and according to the rules.

Watching a bunch of people preached at by a loop tape saying “you’re free” while all staring at a skull and bones smiley and apparently all doing exactly what they are told is like something straight out of the worst dystopian novels that have ever been conceived.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

It’s really pissing me off that people are thinking that this “nightclub” and “festival” that happened this weekend are a step to getting back to normal 🤬 Attendees had to get an invasive medical test (for an illness of which they have no symptoms and is highly unlikely to harm them) in order to be allowed in!! In what way is this normal? According to the BBC TEN PERCENT of them “failed” the LFT and were unable to attend. 10%!!! I thought previous LFTs on similar asymptomatic healthy populations had produced figures of around 0.6%, aka the false positive rate? Imagine paying the best part of a grand to go to Glastonbury with all your mates, tent packed etc to be told at the last minute you’re not allowed in as you’re supposedly actually an infectious biohazard. How are people going to be willing to be book holidays with a 10% chance of having to cancel? 0.6% was bad enough. And to top it off they are expected (not required) to get a PCR test 5 days afterwards too! Why a PCR test this time? Don’t they know they’re not supposed to be used on symptomless people either? All they… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago

All very good points. I guess we all have things that are so dear to us that we would be prepared to compromise to be able to do them – for example seeing close friends and family abroad – but I can’t get excited about doing any activity that requires any sort of covid restrictions at all, however much I love it.

HoMojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

All part of the ‘scheme’. You don’t go to any of these events if you really want to beat these bastards. My fear is that most people don’t care. I have a friend, a really good bloke and a nurse who indulges my fury, has had Covid, his two ‘vaxxes’, and is tested twice a week as part of his job requirement. Recently blessed with two grandchildren I asked him when he was going to get angry, when they started jabbing his grandkids arms? He shrugged and said that they have to have all sort of vaccines these days, a couple more ain’t gonna make any difference. Now this is a good bloke, knows something is going on – is in the bowels of the NHS – but doesn’t think it’s worth fighting about. He wants to be able to take his grandkids to the zoo and go to the pub himself. This is what we’re up against.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Once you accept that the old normal has gone and we are living in an absolute mind-eff of a tyranny, with hysterical zealots, lunatics, and just the plain evil, you evaluate what is really important in life. For me its body autonomy and sovereignty, having a mind of my own, not being coerced into accepting medical experiments in order to have my “old life” back. Its way beyond that now. I don’t give a stuff about those things anymore. Family and friends treat me like a nut job now – they DON’T want to hear anything I have to say, but I’ve had to listened to them bleating on and on about their covid hysteria and their ultimate joy at receiving their jabs! But it hurts me – I really don’t want to fall out with them. The funny thing is they were all so determined that their lives would go back normal, post jab, and they’d be going on holiday, all restrictions lifted…and when I said they wouldn’t be, they scoffed at me. Now they’ve gone very quiet.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I refuse to take part in ANY of it. No masks, testing, social distancing. And I won’t compromise on any of it. I hope that there are others that won’t cave, even if it means I never get to go abroad again.
The one thing that fears me the most is that you can’t get medical treatment unless you have a test. I’m on the waitlist for an operation that I was supposed to have last summer and I’m dreading being faced with the choice of having to postpone it unless I consent to the stupid test.

Noumenon
4 years ago

Your last paragraph is exactly what those in authority want.

At this rate having the vaccine won’t help either as it’ll have to be the “right” vaccine for the “right” variant.

RickH
4 years ago

MailOnline reports on the rock concert which took place over the weekend as part of the live event trials. There were no masks and no social distancing, but guests did have to test negative in a lateral flow test beforehand.”

The idiocy is manifest. Let’s take the effectiveness of tests at face value (I know – a stupid proposition, but bear with me).

So – no-one admitted to the event has an infection.

After the event no-one has an infection : errr …. so what?

After the event, someone has an infection : errr …. so what?

We really are in barmy-land.

RickH
4 years ago

a “health service” that has reconstituted itself as an absolute authority.”

No. The politicians and their appointees did that as cover.

Jakub
Jakub
4 years ago

the post “COVID Vaccines: Necessity, Efficacy and Safety” by Doctors for Covid Ethics has been censored, archived version available here

I recommend installing browser extension from archive.org to automatically restore removed articles