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karenovirus
4 years ago

‘Face masks could be gone by summer’.

Everybody and their dog knows Covid is just another seasonal respiratory virus. With bozo claiming the current decline is the result of his masterful lockdown strategy yet now this unknown person (and many others) is saying it’s down to the vaccines they are playing games with us.

As with last year we will be rewarded with some temporary concessions over the summer (with Covid gone how could they do otherwise). Meanwhile they build and emplace more of their infrastructure of repression ready for bozo to reintroduce a targeted lockdown at the first sign of this Autumns return.

If the government were to announce a partial lifting of facemasks in pubs, schools and shops perhaps, probably 50% of the sheeple will continue to wear them even in public. Tossers.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Exactly what my tyre fitter said. I have sceptical/cynical/sarcastic conversations with all sorts of people and they often point in the same direction. Facemasks don’t work but people will continue to wear them anyway, and the lockdown will be back in autumn and over winter are two of the commonest memes

karenovirus
4 years ago

‘Exposure risk indoors is the same at 6 feet as 60 feet.’

This will be a surprise to nobody, if people are in an enclosed place with lurgey bits floating about they will float until they get you, or not.
This is the reason why they are now going on about ventilation so much; the subject was raised this time last year but it was shut down for reasons unknown.
‘You’re just saying that as an excuse for the pubs to open up’
was the best they could offer.

karenovirus
4 years ago

‘Test and Trace is watching you’. It’s not watching me because, like half the population, I didn’t download the app and of those that did large numbers deleted or deactivated it. But for or all its faults it is now clear that Track’n’Trace is intended to be the backbone of the governments version of Social Credit of which vax passes will be just a small part. Was it 1984 where each citizen had their allocated living unit complete with Telescreen for Big Brother to impart the latest news and information ? It was illegal for citizens to switch off the Telescreen or disable it (and they knew if you did). So perhaps possession of the technology will become compulsory. Some years ago I had as near neighbours s single mum with two teenage boys. Eventually she managed to get them inexpensive phones, the older boy was a bit useless and needy, always phoning home ‘mum can you do this whatever, mum can you get me . . ?’ The younger one was bright and active, out and about all hours. After a couple of weeks he told me he’d ditched the phone. ‘Mum’s always on it; “where are you? who… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What’s an app?

Also 1984 (in the film anyway) where someone tries to join the resistance but it turns out that the “resistance” person is actually on the other side – be very careful!

Anyone tell me why the work is being apparently treated as a manual for governing – or was Orwell just too clever by half?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

‘What’s an app ?’
That’s why they want your generation dead.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Well there’s Laurence Fox and . . . er . . .

burke19
4 years ago

Brave of those 53 actors to out themselves. But most Germans don’t do irony – as Jans Josef Liefers (fantastic actor and very well known in Germany as Professor Dr. Karl Friedrich Boerne) has realised. See Jan Josef Liefers@JanJosefLiefers  and https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/allesdichtmachen-interview-liefers-100.html
The relevant part of the WDR interview is:
“In the meantime it looks like it’s all backfired, which is probably what happens when you have to explain so much”.
The German media is, of course, only reporting on the very few of the 53 actors who immediately distanced themselves from this campaign at the first sign of trouble. Fact is there are not that many sceptics around at the moment, so it’s not really the best way to make yourself known and popular as an actor. But praise to the large majority of the 53 actors who are sticking to the story (including it seems Jans Josef Liefers) because it needs such brave folks to wake the people up.
But next time a more direct approach might be better because, as I said, most Germans don’t do irony.

burke19
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

I am German, so I hope we can agree to differ on German irony, but not I’m too sure who I was supposed to be pandering? Anyway my point was more to explain Liefer’s interview where he states that if you have to explain the irony of the videos then the approach has not much chance of working. But while I believe a more direct messages are better it is clear that anyone trying to air an “off plan” opinion, in a factual, ironic, comic or whatever form, should expect a serious “Shitstorm” of social and main stream media abuse; in fact it would certainly be quite naive not to. Of course the classical method used by German MSM is to label the “off plan” sceptics as far right. Just look at this interview: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/kulturrat-zu-allesdichtmachen-101.html Specifically the leading question from tagesschau24: “Praise for this protest video comes from parts of the AfD and the “Querdenker” scene. How do you feel about that?” For those unfamiliar with Germany both the AfD and Querdenkder have been effectively been given the Nazi label by MSM and other politicians – in comparison the British MSM and politicians have to work much harder to achieve… Read more »

burke19
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

Last point, on Germany; look at this video starting at 1min:47sec:
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute-journal/fdp-kritisiert-massive-grundrechtseingriffe-100.html
where I think Ulrich Wickert shows he has lost the plot because he seems to (mis)quote a study that I believe can’t actually exist (somebody correct me here if there was an actual curfew in Britain, rather than pubs closing early last Summer/Autumn). Also this “people will die” augmentation later in the video is really a bit first wave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
Unfortunately people believe who they think are serious journalists, even when they spout such garbage. I lost a lot of respect for Wickert after seeing this interview – but well done the FDP guy

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

There was “stay local” of course (though they never made clear how local and I think this was guidance rather than law) but I don’t remember any curfew. One village didn’t seem to want anyone from outside their parish visiting (though I bet they used supermarkets in neighbouring towns

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yes not a few villages tried to keep out the “furriners” including the likes of Walberswick where there were hardly bugger all cases (technical term)

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

I have previously stated that the various authoritarian measures currently in force in many places, including Germany, remind me of Brecht’s “Furch und Elend”, and I would hope that a good many on the German left would say to the perpetrators – “ekelt euch”.

I understand AFD started out with some fairly serious minded academics opposing integrationism, but later changed direction somewhat. Still, I would have thought they are different to people like Pegida, and those who say things like “ich bin stolz, Deutscher zu sein”, and are more concerened about things like ECB money printing?

I suppose the German msm are bought and paid for like in Britain?

burke19
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Thanks for the info on UK curfew, it matches what I believed to be the case. I said before it was Ulrich Wickert in the interview but it is actually Klas Kleber, an equally well respected journalist. The interview with Volker Wissing (an FDP or Liberal politician) revolves around the fact that the FDP are making a judiciary challenge with respect to new federal Covid restrictions which include an automatic curfew. In the interview for which I gave the link Kleber says “a University of Oxford study has shown that curfew measures in Great Britain have reduced Covid cases by 10 to 20 percent”. He later goes on to ask Wissing wether he is personally prepared to accept responsibility for the excess deaths which could result if the judiciary action of the FDP were to be successful. Actually I found the interview quite disgusting from Kleber’s side, but I must say Wissing gives a great defence; at least in Germany there is still a political opposition worthy of the name. The interview was done on the very main stream ZDF (pretty much BBC) and together with the treatment dished out to the 53 actors, I think shows that German MSM… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  burke19

Yes. One of the favourite UK tropes has been (re. public consent in 1930s Germany) that “It couldn’t happen here.”

Well. It just has.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Let’s imagine that what bozo, SAGE and the rest have been doing for the past twelve months is not some ego driven drive for totalitarianism but rather pre-planning and a dress rehearsal for something scary that has a real chance of coming along soon.

This came up on my YouTube subscriber feed this morning. I’ve subscribed to Sam Harris for many years and Sam does not do stupid (can be a bit lefty and anti Trump but not stupid).

In the first 10 minutes his guest, one Rob Reid, describes how a virus as contagious as flu but as lethal as Ebola already exists, engineered in the US by scientists
It’s not even in a level 5 bio security lab but in a level 4. OK, so destroy it and move on but if these guys can do it then so can someone else perhaps with malevolent intent.

I’m saving the other two hours until later.

YouTube Sam Harris channel
Engineering The Apocalypse

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I have to say, I’ve considered for a long time that biological and chemical could be more of a problem than nuclear this century. For war, yes, but they could be used for other things as well. Don’t be surprised…

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago

‘Doctors without Facts’….. Good clear article for the masses who believe the hype about the fall guy that is Brazil. If the scared could only read such in MSM. And now we’re going to see all the same fear porn applied to India.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

Yes. Can you tell they don’t like Bolsonaro? Probably Modi too. Interestingly, there are European countries with higher IFR’s. Maybe they’ll go on about Czech Republic or Belgium. Then again…

Perce Lipps
Perce Lipps
4 years ago
Reply to  SueJM

It’s already being applied to India. On the BBC Today Programme this morning (yes, I know, it winds me up nicely in the morning, in fact it has been going on about the “Indian variant” for days) one of the doctors reporting from India had the temerity to go against the perceived BBC wisdom. We have heard from the BBC, ad nauseam, that the Indian health service is at the point of collapse because the Indian variant of Covid is so dangerous. We have been told that all hospitals are at the point of collapse, that they have run out of oxygen, and that people are dying in the corridors. The Indian doctor, however, stressed that focusing on an “Indian variant” was a distraction as the “Indian variant” was no worse than any other “variant”. He went on to say that the Indian health service was already in a terrible state and that they should have had far more oxygen in stock than they did. He said that many people were in hospital who should not have been, and that being admitted to hospital was almost seen as a status symbol amongst the more wealthy. He said that the triage… Read more »

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  Perce Lipps

Yep…deja-vu (in UK)..(sorry, can’t find French accents!)

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Perce Lipps

See my comment yesterday about the Telegraph YouTube video of phoney mass cremations.
I also saw on my YouTube feed film of an exterior (ie huge) hospital oxygen silo broken down and venting ‘clouds’ of oxygen into the air.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Ohne Anfst hab’ ich Angst. Good old “Schauspielers”. “Free us from having our own thoughts” – that’s about it – let big pharma and their proxies do all your thinking!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Ausgezeichnet!

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

“Perth lockdown for three days will see Anzac Day services cancelled” – Covid has once again found its way past the border quarantines, ABC reports”

Here we go again – another lockdown in ‘Zero Covid Australia” (I make it eight In total now, with the Western Australian Labor government contributing three of them). This is what ‘Zero Covid’ means – even one community-transmission ‘case’ and the political knuckleheads and their public health numbskulls go bat-droppings crazy, ordering lockdowns while they deploy their army of contract-tracers. It’s mentally exhausting for everyone – always on edge about whether the coming day will be more or less proper normal or full-on lockdown New Normal.

I notice, however, that the generally pro-lockdown Covid Hysterical talkback radio bit of the media are starting to demur, ever so slightly, with words like ‘overreacton’ and ‘disproportionate’ beginning to crop up on the airwaves.

The fantasy of Zero Covid – and its perpetual threat of lockdowns – however, looks set to continue ad infinitum.

Phil Shannon
South Australia

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

dear oh dear. If you isolate yourselves from the rest of the world, don’t you fail to develop immunity to diseases circulating in other parts of the world – as the (real) Americans found?

Seriously, do you think the likes of Oz and NZ will fully open up within 5 years? it’s hard to see how by their logic.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Except that there is no ‘logic’. It’s just a wild over reaction to the real world.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Is ANZAC Day much of of a thing in Australia, a public holiday perhaps ?

If so a 3 day lockdown that coincides with it might seem to be designed to cause cultural upset.

SueJM
SueJM
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I always found it somewhat strange that Oz has a bit of an isolationist attitude when it comes to immigration policies etc and yet amongst the populace is an endemic attitude of ‘good on yer, mate’… just for trying and failing at something, which is very refreshing in comparison to the tall poppy syndrome found in the UK. But perhaps that illustrates the disparity between the people and it’s governors…. much like anywhere!

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

Does anyone know anything we could be doing now in order to avoid being accidentally opted in to domestic passports/medical ID cards, track & trace etc? I don’t want to live off-grid but I don’t want to end up in a situation where I’ve been included without my explicit consent as getting out once in might be hard!
My ideas so far:

1. Deleting my mobile number from my GP surgery.
2. Opting out of the sharing of my medical records with anyone else eg other NHS departments.
3. Written to NHSX digital abs asked them to delete any data under GDPR.
4. I’m not getting coerced into having the vaccine but I’m also going to refuse to let anyone (in an official capacity) even know my decision. NOYB
5. Don’t get Track & Trace app.
6. Don’t ever give your real details even on paper.
7. If anyone ever phones don’t even confirm who you are.
8. Don’t get the NHS app – this seems to be what they’ll turn into the “passport”.

Any other ideas gratefully received!

karenovirus
4 years ago

The Dark Web is not somewhere I’m familiar with SBC but it might be a route to explore. In case you missed this which I posted late a couple of days ago, courtesy the BBC.

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JohnK
4 years ago

Could register for TPS ( https://www.tpsonline.org.uk/ ) and avoid answering unknown numbers. I did that a long time ago, on account of junk sales calls from various parts of the world. Anything/anyone novel must leave a message and identify their number (obviously withheld ones never have a return call). I sometimes use https://who-called.co.uk/ to identify where junk calls come from.

  1. They never had my number. Anyway, it’s almost always off, except for outgoing emergencies, or times when banking or the HMRC use it to send temp validation codes for certain transactions or logging in for tax paperwork.

Depending on how wary you are, you might resist the use of ‘smart meters’ for gas/electric utilities – operated by third parties on a rough 30 minute basis via GSM.

Try paying cash for certain things. I always paid cash at pubs when they were trading.

Could shell out for Virtual Private Network (VPN). Could also split your email addresses into different ones used for certain traders etc.

Could drop off the ‘open register’ & register to vote anonymously (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/register-to-vote-anonymously ).

Probably loads more that could be done.

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago

Who says that the Germans don’t do humour & irony…

RickH
4 years ago

“The R Number has increased a little according to Medscape, but there’s been no corresponding resurgence in infections”

I think that says all you need to know about the relevance of the modeller’s ‘R number’.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I was wondering when they would bring the once all pervasive R number back into the discussion.
I still remember little old ladies asking ‘ooh, what do you think the R number will do ? Will it go down?’
‘ No it’ll probably go up dearie’.
Neither having the slightest idea what it meant, if anything.

RickH
4 years ago

The latest data on blood clots is prompting vaccine authorities to consider giving the under-40s an alternative to the AstraZeneca jab,

Why ‘under-40s’ ???? If blood clots are an issue?

They’re desperate to unload this useless and massively expensive pre-purchase, obviously.