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karenovirus
4 years ago

Fraser Nelson’s Telegraph article purporting to be about 20,000 children ‘missing from school’ because of lockdown is entirely an attack on home schooling (a controversy about which I take no side).

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh interesting. I can’t see beyond the paywall. At least pre-pandemic home schoolers had to be registered right? I assumed that the criticism was for parents who are keeping kids at home because they’ve been terrified, but haven’t registered as officially home schooling.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I grab 2 or 3 screenshots of the article before the paywall comes down. It’s a bit time consuming but sometimes worthwhile.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

If you hit the ESC key as the page is loading and get the timing right the paywall doesn’t come down at all.
Or if you are on a mobile or tablet, hitting the X button in the web address box as the page loads works the same way.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Thank you, sometimes if you click off the begging letter the article can be read in full.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Actually this is something I can comment on with some authority. There are many more than 20,000 washing about the Home Ed community, I suspect. Schools are not admitting in some cases to the loss of students. They’re acknowledging deregistration and then keeping the children on the roll. Some even carry out a sustained campaign of harassment against the families, sometimes with the collusion of the Child Missing Education teams at the Local Authority. It’s quite appalling. Social services are involved and have to waste time visiting perfectly law abiding parents just to close cases, but because Home Education has become an “flag” for child abuse, they’re obliged to. But bums off seats reduces their budget. So this is a business loss that has to be avoided by whatever means, be that deception or an campaign of harassment. There are some very interesting parallels between the treatment of masks, vaccines and Home Education this year. The idea that the state can remove your parental rights over the manner in which your children are educated is the same as the idea that they can force you to wear a mask or lock you in your home on the basis of very… Read more »

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Brilliant post, thank you.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

The article does.mention the illegal practice of local authorities ‘off rolling’ pupils, dumping them off the school list to boost their stats.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

I can speak with knowledge, as well. Parents are quite entitled to ‘home school’ children. The LA simply monitors in terms of basic sufficiency and that it is not disguising child abuse (remember – most abuse is within families).

I can’t recall IME any contestation of a parent wishing to home educate.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The law states that you have to educate your children, either through attendance at school or otherwise. There is no requirement to register as homeschooling. Through homeschool, children at least have the chance of learning to think critically and independently, without the indoctrination and brainwashing in various areas that seeps into every school subject. Given that parents have been forced to keep their children close by over the last year, there doesn’t appear to have been a wave of child battering, contrary to the belief permeated throughout our state “services” that all parents must be under constant surveillance as they can’t be trusted not to abuse their kids.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheTartanEagle

That’s very informative but my point is why is the article included in the roundup ? This site is not home-ed-skeptics.
Would have been different if Fraser had shown a significant increase in missing/home ed children as a result of lockdown but he doesn’t.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh gawd – another hobby horse made out of Covid.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Covid19 curbs divide Italy’s coalition parties.
New relaxed regulations include the following.

“Italians who have recovered from Coronovirus or have been vaccinated will be eligible for a six-month ‘green pass’ for regional travel, while those who show a negative test will receive a 48 hour Certificate.”

The direction of travel is clear.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I find the “recovered from” the virus one intriguing – the way our Gov was massively overinflating testing stats over the past few months – it would seem that almost the entire UK population has either died from or recovered from covid. So will they now be forced to admit that all those asymptomatic “cases” where PCR was abused are recoveries or false positives? Can’t have it both ways!

karenovirus
4 years ago

How will all those many people who are retrospectively convinced they had Covid before it became a thing supposed to prove it ?

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

How is anyone supposed to prove it? If I was perfectly well and a PCR test run at 35+ cycles (or whatever it is) told me I was actually infected then I wouldn’t believe it. Would I be more likely to believe it if I was ill – perhaps, but only if they gave me the PCR test “scores” and also ran the same tests for other similar viruses. If they put it on my death certificate would I believe it – still no!

They’ve made it very difficult to get hold of an antibody test for a reason. And the continued denial of the existence of T cell immunity.

swedenborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The whole thing is bizarre.They need now checkpoints on every region for entering or leaving. Italy going back how it was in the15th Century full of ministates. How will it work in practice? If there was a problem with corruption in Italy imagine the blocked borders between regions? Night time, traders wanting selling products using backroads,falsified documents??The whole thing is a black farce. Politicians don’t believe or understand herd immunity and they cannot even look at a big federated state like the US where travel is free to all states. The amount of bureucracy corruption it will produce will be staggering.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

I doubt if anywhere in Europe will have seen anything like this since nazi occupied Europe.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

As for corruption, attached courtesy of the BBC

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

The amount of bureucracy corruption it will produce will be staggering.

And perhaps that’s the point…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Ok, I’ve done a bit of digging on the numbers in France, resulting in the following. France deaths attributed to cv have been equivalent to around 2,000/week (adjusted for UK population) for some time, going back into February. In fact they were never much more than 3,000 (equivalent) in January, when the UK was over twice this IFR and going all out with their “vaccine” programme. As of April 20th, with about 8.4% of the French population aged over 75, in Ile de France (a region of France around Paris), only 6% had had a second “vaccination”, therefore suggesting the “vaccination” of over 75’s is ongoing in France. Meanwhile, in the UK, with over 10m having had both jabs, it can be taken as pretty much finished for over 75’s. So once again, we see large numbers of extra deaths “with” cv where “vaccination” of the elderly is taking place. Of course, there may be other explanations, and I would welcome input from those more knowledgeable on the matter, but, from what I can see, I have to ask, is this protection of the vulnerable, or is it a cost cutting solution – especially if we see the same scenario… Read more »

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

“Twenty thousand pupils seem to have vanished from school rolls,”

At least. But since there is no legal mechanism to force schools to report who is and isn’t on their lists we can’t know. Councils cannot force ‘free schools’ to make the report, and movement between the nations – England to Scotland, Wales or NI disappears into a black hole.

Therefore the missing children is likely just to be because lockdown restrictions have revealed the crack in the data collection system.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Is there not? I did some temping at a secondary school around 20 years ago and every pupil in UK had a pupil number and this was tracked on a database. So if you registered at a new school you’d need to call the old one to get their number (this was my role). There were no exceptions. Missing pupils can therefore be tracked, and is used for safeguarding when it’s believed that a child has been sent overseas for forced marriage/FGM etc.
Families do try and get around this though by importing a child (or even young adult) from a village overseas and putting them in the UK system as an imposter of the original one.
Sadly, children disappear all the time 🙁

LS99
LS99
4 years ago

In massive numbers, I remember reading a while back about the numbers that go missing from care in a short piece in a national newspaper and thinking why the hell is this not a great, big giant scandal. However, at least they are collecting data on that. Meanwhile, children who aren’t in care – no data is collected on those that go missing.

“The department does not collect datasets on children reported missing who are not in care, or ‘looked after’ by the local authority” Vicky Ford, Conservative MP for Chelmsford answering a question about children that go missing whilst in care.

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2020-06-01/52030

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

I didn’t get this comment either. “Green lists” or lists of any colour do NOT make me cheerful. Only when I can go abroad sans-testing/vaccines/masks to any country that wants my tourism money (and there’s a lot of it saved up) will I be cheerful.

And why pick on IDS? He is one of the semi-good ones who is at least critical of the ministers and the nonsensical policies.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Will it be this decade? And what will happen when furlough ends – or is that another one that will be semi-permanent?

Julian
4 years ago

Totally agree – I don’t want any kind of coloured list. In any case, “green” is a misrepresentation. Green means “go”, no restrictions, proceed as normal. But there probably won’t be anywhere like that, maybe ever again.

Annie
4 years ago

Fauci says people who are locked down don’t obey the rules. Results bad.
Fauci says that people who are not locked down do obey the rules they don’t have. Results good.
Fauci concludes that only lockdowns stand between us and Armageddon.
Hasn’t it occurred to anybody that Fauci is (pardon bad language) a fucking imbecile?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

(I’m jolly well shocked!). Could it possibly be that such sleight of hand is employed because he has a vested interest in his narrative? I’ve seen this before. It seems that Professor foot in mouth is doing the same sort of thing. Forgive me, but they look like spivs. Now, private Walker – do no panic!

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think you are right. Or the evidence just builds and builds that everything he has said and done and the models are wrong but there is not one ‘aha’ moment where he holds up his hands. The people that made the decisions will be the last ones to admit they were wrong.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

‘Admit they wrong’, as in they made a mistake? They’ve manipulated statistics on seasonal virus to make it look like a far more devastating disease – right from the beginning, lying with their grossly inflated predictions of death. Why does the number of ‘covid deaths’ match the usual number of flu deaths during a period that the number of recorded flu deaths have plummeted?

They changed the way deaths are recorded -right at the start. They accumulate dodgy death figures season-on-season to make the figure continue to grow.

We all know they have, again, right from the start, used testing equipment that is not only unsuitable, but used in the wrong way, producing artificially high positives in favour of the abominable phantom virus.

Of course I could go on about how many of us already knew this plandemic was coming – you just had to be aware of Agenda 21/30, but many on this site shriek and gurgle and spit at the possibility that this is a global conspiracy to bring about depopulation and digital enslavement.

How can anyone, over year into this tyranny, still afford these maniacs a pardon, suggesting they made a mistake?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

The other crucial background document is the Council of Europe report which is massively scathing about the forerunner of this – the Swine ‘Flu debacle.

The parallels are immense.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Not an imbecile, an evil liar

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well, I think he must be both to try to get away with such a ludicrous ‘explanation’!

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Except that a lot of people probably believe him

Lockdown_Lunacy
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes exactly, the bizarre thing is that many people will quite proudly repeat his blindingly obvious nonsense as fact.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Posted late yesterday by one off (?) LS reader ‘Elephant City’.
Short, concise and very professional summary of Faucis criminal responsibility for creating Covid19 by illegally funding gain of function gene therapy experiments in Coronovirus at the Wuhan Institute.

Well worth your time.

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epythymy
epythymy
4 years ago

Ah good. So according to the Covid risk calculator my risk of dying of the vaccine is officially higher than my risk of dying of a virus I seem incapable of even catching… nice, where do I sign up?!

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

Yes, and last time I checked on the Yellow Card statistics, the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ is every bit as dangerous as the AZ one.

iane
iane
4 years ago

I suppose it is (just about) possible that he was being sarcastic? Well, I sometimes try to be generous!

epythymy
epythymy
4 years ago

A further call for a mathematician.

Supposedly our chance of dying post vaccine is now 1 in 126000. According to the Covid calculator, my risk of dying of Covid is 1 in 146000. However, this is assuming I catch Covid, right? What are the current chances of catching Covid and therefore the real risk of death? Compared to actively choosing to inject ourselves with the experimental vaccine?

steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

current chances of catching covid and dying are about zero. its gone for the summer and (by their estimates) only a few thousand people in the whole country with it.

1 in 126000 is for a specific type of risk. doesn’t include long term risk. dont know if second jab similar or if your 6 months booster for the rest of your life will have same risk each time.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Your point is a key one. The retention of ‘Covid’ ‘measures’ is revealed as a massive fraud to any but the most gullible.

Unfortunately, a large proportion of the population fall into that category and gobble up whatever is put in their doggy bowl.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  epythymy

Add to that the the miniscule absolute risk reduction figures (which looks at real world overall risks), and not bothering with a vaccine comes out as the rational decision.

Dave
Dave
4 years ago

There’s another estimated 18000 hidden victims and that’s people with cancer who have not presented to primary care for referral into the cancer diagnosis and care system. Even a 3 month delay in diagnosis can have a profound effect on their cancer stage and so prognosis and treatment.
And that’s if they can get a diagnosis. I’m seeing reports not just of shortages of basic PCR reagents but even of consumables like pipette tips as everything gets channelled to the ludicrous amount of SARS-Cov-2 testing

RickH
4 years ago

The Oxford study on the efficacy of vaccines is quite interesting. Have a close look at Figs 1 and 2.

… and then consider the Ct values in Fig. 1 where disparities between groups show up. Remenber : above Ct 25 is (literally) garbage.

MechEng
4 years ago

Re – vaccines reducing cases. I probably missed it, but couldn’t see the method by which we decide if people are to be tested for virus; is it random or based on a concern they may have the virus and/or have symptoms? If not the first one, do we know if the proportion of infections among the vaccinated is not highly under reported relative to the vaccinated: If you tell everyone there is a dangerous virus perhaps you are much more likely to be worried about the slightest symptoms (or even imagine them when you have none) and amplify those symptoms in your mind thus more likely to report symptoms, rate them higher and go get a test. If you tell everyone the vaccines are safe and effective perhaps they’re more likely to not notice symptoms or rate them lower and less likely to get a test. Similarly with vaccine side effects; are people less likely to notice or report them if they are told they are only minor and nothing to worry about? If we gave the opposite messages I wonder how different the situation would look? I presume the actual trials with placebos should overcome this problem (if… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  MechEng

Hence press reports last week of people ‘swamping’ A&E after reading about side effects of vaccines (from those same press sources).

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  MechEng

Who is tested and how, and how many, has been more or less random and changed over time. Different tests, methods, settings, cohorts. Almost impossible to glean anything useful – quite deliberate I am sure.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Great video by Dan Hannan in a House Of Lords Committee in which he regrets the impact of lockdown on the young.
How the economy has taken a greater hit than in either World Wars or the Great Depression.
How he thinks that we will emerge from lockdown into a poorer, colder, more pinched and more authoritarian place than before.
He reflects on previous governments reluctance to retreat from restriction emergency measures.

Safe for Lefties and Remainers.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think you’ve got the wrong glasses on – its right wing Brexiteers who are actually creating this shit-show.

Disclaimer : I’ve constantly argued against mickey-mouse analysis in terms of historical political prejudice. Just pointing out hard facts if you go down that pot-holed road.

Milos
4 years ago

“Risk of suffering serious blood clot after AstraZeneca jab doubles in fortnight” So, if Norway and Germany never warned about it, it probably would have been completely missed. The only reasoned UK and EMA noted it was because warning from mainly these 2 countries. Then EMA cited UK mass vaccination and almost no dangerous specific blood cloths as no reason to worry. But then later as they knew what to look for and evidence emerging from other countries putting pressure not to turn a blind eye to vaccine side effects and deaths, they noted it and rate of side effects and deaths started to increase. At this point I think the true risk is closest to the one Norway presented: 3 deaths from AZ vaccine in 133,000 vaccinated. All were healthy (no chronic conditions/disabilities) and young/middle-aged. Now we need to know how many of the 133,000 doses went to specifically healthy young and middle-aged, but there’s no info on that. So the lower limit is 3/133,000 ~ 1 in 45,000, or ~0.002% for young/middle-aged healthy (minimum since not all doses went to them). https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104882 Then you need 2 doses of AZ vaccine which doubles the risk to ~0.005% (rounding numbers,… Read more »

Milos
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

So the lower limit is 3/133,000 ~ 1 in 45,000, or ~0.002% for young/middle-aged healthy (minimum since not all doses went to them).

*the upper limit. in other word, the IFR is lower.

Milos
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

*the ‘IFR’ of the vaccine.

Milos
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

*ahh, I’m in a hurry. it is the lower limit of vaccine risk, i.e. ‘IFR’ of the vaccine. the ‘IFR’ of the vaccine is higher.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Milos

I think Norway actually had 6 cases, 4 deaths. Need to double check that tho.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Shropshire health authority sent me the latest Covid update: Week from the 9th to the 16th of April: New Covid cases: 30. Covid patients in hospital: 1. Covid deaths: 0.
SO WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR?

chris c
chris c
4 years ago

Next week

covid deaths 1

exponential increase LOCK EVERYTHING DOWN!!!111

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  chris c

You got it, Chris!!!