Just 32 people in Hospital with Covid After Vaccination
Just 32 vaccinated people were hospitalised with COVID-19 in recent months, according to “extraordinary” real world data showing the effectiveness of Britain’s immunisation programme. Scientists are preparing to hand findings to the Government’s advisers on Thursday, showing the dramatic impact of first doses on hospitalisations and deaths. The Telegraph has more.
The findings revealed by the Telegraph will… raise questions regarding the Government’s caution about the return to normality, and reluctance to promise any new freedoms for those who have been vaccinated.
On Tuesday, Mr Johnson said he saw no reason to deviate from the “cautious but irreversible” roadmap.
He said “science is helping us to get back towards normality” as he set out aims to develop at least two new treatments that people can take at home if they test positive for COVID-19.
The research on COVID-19 patients admitted to UK hospitals examined the outcomes for all patients – including those who had received at least one jab, and had sufficient time to build immunity. Early findings show that of 74,405 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospitals between September and March, just 32 had received a vaccine at least three weeks before.
Scientists said the findings – which amount to around one case per 2,300 patients – showed that vaccines worked “extraordinarily well”, offering protection far above the levels which had been anticipated.
The full data is due to be handed to ministers later this week, after updated findings are passed to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) on Wednesday.
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This is good news?!
Lockdown+ vaccination and still sick enough to be hospitalised.
But these stats prove nothing. The vaxxed could still have infected the non-vaxxed; we didn’t even start vaxxing until December, so all the numbers before then should be removed for a better comparison. It’s all complete cobblers.
It is. And repeated verbatim here without a word of criticism. Pathetic.
And yet the masses will see this in MSM and take it at face value …. again!
The vaccinations only started in December, FFS!
And what about the more than 800 people who died after the vaccine, according to the government’s own Yellow Card reporting system?
PLEASE, LOCKDOWN SCEPTICS, STOP QUOTING VAX FANATIC ARTICLES FROM MSM PUBLICATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY BIG PHARMA LOBBYISTS.
Poor old LS. They have to pay the piper. If you will insist on staying up late, you’re going to the “balance” piece.
Bang on point realarthurdent! UK vaccinations started on 8 December 2020, so why measure from September? Sneaky sleight of hand to count only the 32 people who, allegedly, were admitted to hospital with Covid-19 post-vax, not the actual number of people who caught Covid-19 after getting vaccinated.
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON WHY OH WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP IGNORING THE FACTS – 835 DEATHS I LOOKED IT UP 1 MINUTE AGO!!!
“Early findings show that of 74,405 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospitals between September and March, just 32 had received a vaccine at least three weeks before.”
So doesn’t include all the people that got Covid straight after the vax when immunity dipped. How many of the 74,405 were admitted within 3 weeks of the jab? Bet they won’t reveal that stat. And how many vax adverse events admissions are there? And why include the 2 or 3 months before we were even jabbing people? And how many died in a care home without being admitted to hospital?
More cherry picking to suit the occasion.
Disney stats. But… I want more GPs at the lectern called Nikki Dikki & Triqqi. Now they really are confidence inspiring.
Laughable stuff. Have we learned nothing?
“The full data is due to be handed to ministers later this week, after updated findings are passed to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) on Wednesday.”
Can’t wait. I am sure it’ll be as robust as the original numbers back in November.
Early findings show that of 74,405 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospitals between September and March, just 32 had received a vaccine at least three weeks before. Scientists said the findings – which amount to around one case per 2,300 patients – showed that vaccines worked “extraordinarily well”, offering protection far above the levels which had been anticipated. What a load of rubbish! There are so many things wrong with this ridiculous statement! Here are just a few: The very first PB jab was given on 8th December and the first AZ jab was given on 4th January. Three weeks after the jab would be starting between 29th December and 25th January. That is two or three months out of seven. If all months had the same admissions, then the jab programme would have included between 21,000 and 32,000 admissions. No more than 1 in 660 to 1 in 1,000 as opposed to 1 in 2,300. The jab programme has been implemented by age. We don’t know the ages of those admissions and whether those ages had received a jab. There were excess deaths within just a week of the jabs numbering around 20,000. These, the more vulnerable age 75+, might… Read more »
Indeed. My overtired brain didn’t notice the ‘creative accounting’. No wonder the jabs are being hailed as working ‘extraordinarily well’.
I’m not sure even if those in hospital are ‘with’ or ‘from’.
This reads like a GCSE coursework piece where you create your own piece of propaganda. (Fond memories). This is blatantly obscuring the answers to several questions.
1.) How many vaccinated people were admitted to hospital? (With or without covid).
2.) Of them, how many people died?
3.) How many recently vaccinated people died at home? (I know if 2 really local to me).
4.) Are we to understand that if you were vaccinated you were not permitted treatment at hospital? Because there were cases in nursing homes local to me where the residents had been vaccinated. Were they just turned around and sent back, (again?).
This stinks to high heaven. And was NOT worth reading in full.
The AZ Oxford jab is a real gem. And if a serious variant arrives, we can kill that too! It’s a great time to admire the effects of the vaccine rollout, which are plainly apparent to all but the cretins! Good work, all.
“ It’s a great time to admire the effects of the vaccine rollout..”.
Let’s not and say we did.
For goodness sake fon, why don’t you give up re-posting this irrelevant graph? The vaccines only reduce symptoms and do not remove the virus. Therefore a graph of positive PCR test results has no relevance whatsoever (and little other purpose either, as it happens).
Your presence here only serves to extend your lead as the most thumbed-down poster in the comments sections.
No please don’t stop him, I’ve been working on the theory that he’s either foreign or a computer programme. The fact that THE graph, the SAME graph is here again, is confirming my computer programme theory!
This oft repeated graph means nothing! It does not show all age groups independently, so there is no context for seasonal variations. Instead I reference more thorough graph, including all age group info: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-reported-sars-cov-2-deaths-in-england/covid-19-confirmed-deaths-in-england-report The single red line on your graph is NOT an indication of vaxx success, but simply the usual seasonal peak of flu deaths in January; it happens every year. Crucially, when divided into separate age groups one can see the mortality figures in all groups follow precisely the same trend independently of whether that age group had been jabbed or not. (BANG GOES FON’s VAXX THEORY!) Looking at the ONS graph (below) the main difference is that the over 80s mortality curve incline becomes dramatically steeper than all other age groups as soon as the vaxxes are rolled out (mainly for that age group) in early December. In mid Jan 2021 it peaks at 12,000 deaths per 100,000 for this 80+ age group, whereas the 70-79 age group peaks simultaneously at around 2,000 deaths per 100,000. Flu deaths always hit the elderly harder, the 80+ group are more vulnerable, and the usual caveat applies that coincidence is not causation. Nevertheless the mortality multiplier of 6x (over… Read more »
The steep rise follows the start of the vaccination programme.
Yep, as I said in bullet point 3.
This immediate steep rise in the over-80s group following vaxx roll out is not replicated in the other age groups, so is at least suggestive. Further investigation has been done by UK Column (1st Feb) , among others, showing the immediate drop in immunity following vax – this has now been acknowledged by the MHRA I believe.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-1st-february-2021
There was an immediate rise in Care Home C19 infections in December and January, even in homes that had not hitherto suffered, which was reported in the local and national press.
https://archive.is/UYnC4
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/significant-covid-19-outbreak-inside-19729591
Now if the vaxx had been properly trialled and understood this drop in overall immunity would have been planned for, but hey, it’s more cost effective with human guinea pigs.
Tell them who you work for!!!
Um, err, isnt the vaccine supposed to make you immune?
This article is admitting that the vaccines dont work. And we know it can kill you.
This isnt looking too good for the vaccines at all.
Accidentally just came across a Horizon Special on Covid on the box. I was fascinated. For a programme that used to have an excellent history of presenting scientific ideas to a wide orchestra, it has gone through a process of becoming increasingly irritating with short-trousered editors playing around with distracting sound effects and music, to the state of this programme. It is worth watching to see how desperately and dangerously propagandised information about this fairly ordinary virus has become, and how any information from ‘pro-Covid’ sources should be treated to severe examination. The first section is a playing up of the mythical ‘rogue variant’ scare stories as if fact, and then goes into a paen to the ‘miracle’ of the new ‘vaccines’ (no mention,of course, of the extraordinary comparative level of side-effects which hadn’t broken big time by this time.). It could have been produced by the pharmaceutical industry as advertising material. In relation to the debate on risk reduction only relative risk reduction is quoted. Of course – all variants are ‘dangerous’ and reductions in Covid incidence are due to vaccines. Herd immunity is caused by vaccines. Lockdowns were the cause of previous reductions holding Covid in check (of… Read more »
You are really showing your age here.
I know – but that gives me perspective that things weren’t that bad, and needn’t be! 🙂
I remember it too. Horizon used to be thrilling – not brcause of its false sensationalism, hideous ‘music’ and Andy Pandy presentation, but for its lucid presentation of fascinating scientific exploration. God, has it been trashed.
Exactly. In recent years, I have turned off even good programmes because the soundtrack has been the equivalent of your ears being beaten with a tin saucepan when you’re trying to have a conversation.
Yes I can remember visiting someone with a colour TV with a couple of joints and watching in awe. Long ago now. When Horizon first got dumbed down there was something else good, Equinox? That took longer but went the same way.
It went downhill a couple of decades ago, when it stopped talking about the interesting details of science and spent more time following the scientists whilst they were drinking tea or coffee and chatting.
I’ve had the programme running on in the background. The bit on testing is a pearl – dread warnings about false negatives; nothing on false positives or the crucial nature of cycle thresholds.
Oh – and did you know that ‘herd immunity’ is solely a function of extensive jabbing?
It’s all parallel to this story – using three to four months when there were no vaccine effects because no-one had been jabbed to inflate baseline figures.
Well, ‘herd/population immunity’ has been through a bit of an image change of late courtesy of guess WHO. Some of those terrible cynics out there say this was in order to encourage vaccines-4-all; but I ask you, why would B&MG (who have effectively controlled WHO since Trump pulled the USA out) want to do such a thing?
https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/04/19/why-did-who-change-definition-of-herd-immunity-last-year/
Which scientists? From which institution? Who’s funding their research?
It doesn’t say what the patients were admitted for. They might not have been admitted for the lurgy but simply have tested positive for it
Just another crack of the whip….whipping folk back and forth between ideas….lockdowns or vaccines… which is best…. better have both! Or just designed to confuse and break.
Back some time last summer I think it was, I posted a comment asking a Toby to nail his colours to the mast as to where he stood with regards to vaccines for covid. It was apparent back then, reading between the lines, that he was pro-vaccines. I got plenty of downvotes and comments defending Toby’s right to keep his opinions to himself, and that he wasn’t a covid sceptic (despite him posting lots of pieces about the whole covid situation being blown out of all proportion). Now the vast majority of comments on this site regarding the vaccines are negative, I think the time has come for Toby to post an opinion piece explaining his stance on so called covid vaccines, instead of just cutting and pasting this kind of tripe and saying worth reading in full. I have no doubt he is an intelligent man, but these posts fly in the face of any intelligence. So why is he so pro-vaccine, and not seemingly considering the very considered comments of his readers that challenge the propaganda around covid vaccines?
I see that Sky News Australia, which has long been a supporter of Ivermectin and alternative treatments for Covid-19 rather than the vaccine route, has had the plug pulled on it by a local network distributor – Win. See here article in the Guardian 31.3.2021: “The deal saw Sky After Dark beamed into unsuspecting free-to-air households which had previously been immune to Andrew Bolt, Peta Credlin and Alan Jones unless they had a Foxtel subscription.” https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/19/sky-news-dumped-in-the-regions-as-win-welcomes-nine
The use of the word “immune” in the Guardian article is interesting.
God forbid that anyone should be allowed to air opinions contrary to the Guardian…
Did I really just read the following?
“Early findings show that of 74,405 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospitals between September and March, just 32 had received a vaccine at least three weeks before.”
Am I missing something here? Didn’t the vaccinations start in December?
Now, don’t get me wrong, I really hope the vaccines are “safe” and effective – as claimed. No problem with safe (in the context of the threat posed) and effective vaccines at all – but please let’s do this properly and try to find out the truth instead of this half-arsed innuendo that is masquerading as analysis.
“Early findings show that of 74,405 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospitals between September and March, just 32 had received a vaccine at least three weeks before”
Or: from December onwards, following the rollout of the vaccine programme, these people died at home before they could be admitted to hospital?
Low hospitalisation rates could also be due to the fact that it is a seasonal virus so cases are dropping naturally.
I have no objections to octogenarians and other people at risk of severe Covid taking the gene therapy to cut their Covid hospitalization risk.
It’s the others/rest that doesn’t make sense and I object to.
It’s quite likely they are in hospital foe another reason. They’ve just been forced to take the faulty PCR test that has returned a positive result.
We had 3 cases of double Pfizer vaxxed infections with symptoms in the family (72 and 2×94 yrs old) in Germany. None of them was even ADMITTED by the hospital, because they were vaxxed and not (yet) sick enough. Another way to lower that number.
And yet, and yet, seemingly care homes account for a third of the total deaths and seemingly around 40% caught covid in hospital after admission for something else! And around 90% of over 50s are vaccinated they say. Something doesn’t add up about this article at all!
Aaaaaaaand then they catch a cold etc and it mutates and wipes out more due to overreacting immune systems.
This is not good news. Its vaxx propaganda.
This must be one of the most meaningless articles ever published here.
It’s just a load of coercive tripe.
To paraphrase the comedian – the late Frank Carson – ” It’s the way you tell ’em “. Mass vaccination didn’t commence until well into January so any hospitalisations before the start of February are statistically irrelevant if we’re allowing 3 weeks for the vaccine to stimulate immunity.
If, for arguments sake, we say there were the same number of hospitalisations per month over the 6 months September to March, that’s 12,400 per month meaning the figure for vaccinated people with covid is 1 per 388 patients. The actual figure will be lower than 388 because we know that hospitalisations were decreasing before and since February. (We don’t know if the dates quoted covered 6 months or 7 months i.e. start of September to the start or the end of February). We can’t possibly know if those 32 hospitalised people would’ve been hospitalised had they not had the vaccine. The scientists (and consequently the government) quote that “correlation doesn’t imply causation” and then tell us that it absolutely does when hyping (pardon the pun) the efficacy of the money-spinning vaccination programme.