Royal College of Nursing Comes Out against Mandatory Vaccination for Health and Social Care Staff
Health and social care staff should not be “coerced” into having a Covid vaccine, says the Royal College of Nursing (RCN). The union, which boasts a membership of 450,000 registered nurses, has encouraged all staff to take a vaccine but says that those who decide not to should be supported. In some cases, however, it notes that it may be “appropriate for employers to consider redeploying [those who choose not to take the vaccine] to lower risk areas”. In a statement, the RNC said there are “serious concerns around mandating vaccines”.
Like the wider population, health and care staff are a diverse group and there are both physical and societal barriers for some on the take up for the vaccine.
The RCN do not support staff being made or coerced into having the vaccine. Staff vaccination should not be used as part of staff contracts, it should not be a condition of employment or part of employment contracts, linked to terms and conditions of employment or to pay.
The RCN do not believe that this approach is effective in improving uptake of vaccination in staff. The RCN recommend that all organisations have a proactive approach and make sure their staff have easy access to the vaccine within the working day. Staff should also have access to support with the right information, encouragement and clear explanation of the benefit and value of the vaccine. These measures will help to achieve a high vaccine uptake.
In their supplementary guidance to the Control of Substances Hazardous to Health Regulations 2002, the HSE say that employers should explain the advantages and disadvantages of immunisation versus non-immunisation. Immunisation should be seen only as a useful supplement to reinforce physical and procedural control measures, not as the sole protective measure.
The HSE adds that employees may not wish to take up the offer of immunisation, or they may not respond to a vaccine and will, therefore, not be immune. If so, employers should consider the effectiveness of the other controls and consider whether any additional controls should be implemented to allow them to work safely.
If RCN members decide they do not want the vaccine the reasons should be explored. If they remain anxious about having the vaccine, the RCN would support their decision. It may be appropriate for employers to consider redeploying them to lower risk areas.
The Government is currently conducting a consultation on making Covid vaccinations mandatory for care home staff working with elderly residents. As it stands, the vaccine rates among staff at older adult care homes are below SAGE’s recommended level in more than half of England’s local authorities.
The RCN’s statement is worth reading in full.
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Well that’s it then.
The RCN run the NHS.
The NHS run SAGE.
SAGE dictate to the government and parliament rolls over….so no vaccine passports.
That bit of proposed socialist fascism is over……
Don’t be absurd – or should I say ‘even more so’.
Who needs 77th Brigade to paint LS as a bunch of nutters when there’s posts like this?
As you say yourself, elsewhere, many in the NHS are afraid to speak out about the madness they see in the administrative leadership of their organisation.
Why? Socialist fascism. Wake up!
Your absurdity mounts.
The majority of governments across Europe have are of the neoliberal right. But you’d have to be a terminally dim to analyse this shit-show in terms of left/right, even given the key role of rabid free-marketeers at the historical root of the current excesses of capital and elites.
You are even more terminally dim than that to witter on about ‘socialist fascism’ in the context of the current Tory fascist government (and the backing of a right-wing Labour leadership). The right has been in power for 40 years!
Do get a grip.
I say again, this is not complicated (for most).
This government, all governments of this country, live in fear and trembling of the public sector, and, in particular, that exemplar of the socialist ethos, the NHS.
The NHS runs SAGE. What did a SAGE member say of lockdowns? ‘We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could’. Not ‘they’ the government but ‘we’ SAGE…..
SAGE instigated the lockdowns backed by undemocratic statutory instruments, draconian sanctions, all enforced by the state security arm.
Fascism to the life……
NHS staff themselves live in fear and trembling, cannot speak out without draconian sanction.
Fascism to the life…..
As Labour Health Minister, Aneurin Bevan said, the NHS was “the most revolutionary feature of the British Socialist programme.”
Even the precautionary principle is a product of eco-socialism
So there we have it, the entire national weird out a product of socialist fascism.
It started with the aim of removing Trump. It will not finish until Merkel, Macron, Johnson and Biden/Harris are all gone.
And, if we do not reform the NHS, outlaw socialist fascism through fundamental constitutional reform, lockdowns will return again and again and again…..
very sorry but it is Big Pharma that runs SAGE, not the nhs! this is not a left/right issue, this is the billionaires of the planet (gates etc) that want to change the world! you should all stop being devisive, we are not going to survive!
SAGE is run by the NHS. NHS links to the pharmaceutical companies are well known and understood.
https://pharmafield.co.uk/in_depth/whats-the-point-of-difference-partnership-working-pharma-and-the-nhs/
This is very much a left/right issue, as this centre left government is about to find out.
Differences of opinion, challenges to arguments, are all part of a healthy debate from which more clarity can emerge for all parties.
It is the absence of such debate in parliament that is the problem here; a consequence of NHS management/SAGE derived socialist fascism.
‘‘We couldn’t get away with it (lockdown) in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could’
They will move to terminate resisters under some emergency edict.
Covidian replacements will be installed.
Any court cases brought by resisters will be found to have no standing or tied up for decades.
Agreed
But only against their staff… interesting…
Government: “We need vaccines.”
Royal College of Nursing: “Yes!”
Government: “We need to vaccinate all the people.”
Royal College of Nursing: “Great!”
Government: “Starting with you.”
Royal College of Nursing: “Whoa… let’s not jump the gun here… let’s think about this for a second…”
Lol. They look after their own. I always had massive respect for RCN… like I said my mum was a lifelong member. They looked after her to a degree in the 80’s 90’s. My mum was the only breadwinner in the family and was a nurse.
A threat of redeployment is also coercion. Its hardly “supporting” their decision.
That’s absolutely the case.
Well – good news, given the lack of it generally and the gullible uselessness of unions and professional associations in general. It’s a possible first small breach in the dam, but needs more bodies to do the same.
One of the problems is general innumeracy, which allows all sorts of rubbish about the vaccines to be pushed out by government and big pharma. The minute real world risk reduction from the vaccine needs more publicity – but I fear such dangerous truths won’t see the light of day when they imply that benefits are extremely rare.
The medical profession generally has been treated to the mushroom theory of information, and are either clueless about Covid, or scared to speak out.
It’s not even the innumeracy, it’s the masses continually accepting the constant stream of unsupported claims, no questions asked.
The media and government are running around making extraordinary claims with little to no challenge from anyone.
Nurses are not ‘the masses’, they are medically trained and also have pooled knowledge and experience enhanced by informal contact with specialist Doctors on their wards.
During my recent stay in hospital about 50% of ward staff had ‘I’ve had my jab’ (or somesuch) stickers on their name tags, that included domestics, feeders, care assistants, nurses and ward manager nurses.
I did not notice any Doctors wearing such labels.
It seems clear that many, if not most, nurses know that the vaccines are a major health hazard and that they have little to do with combatting a novel respiratory infection.
No – my extensive contact with such don’t indicate that at all. Most have simply been brainwashed, just like the general public.
‘….scared to speak out’
Socialist fascism.
Here we go again – the bug-eyed having another incoherent reality-detached shout for 77th Brigade!
I see this as a good thing – probably saved a few young women’s lives. My mum was a proud member of the RCN for years.
Or is this part of the reason for the latest dialling down on vaccines and why lockdowns are the answer (according to the PM)?
This article has lots of very important information, including links to the published papers for previous attempts at making coronavirus vaccines, all of which failed the animal trials and were never licenced as a result. They simply skipped the animal trials this time around for “the greatest public health crisis ever” (or what was previously categorised as “flu season”).
Why the wise give Covid19 vaxes and pseudo-vaxes a miss
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/why-the-wise-give-covid19-vaxes-and-pseudo-vaxes-a-miss/
Other readers also found this one very informative:
‘Healthy People Do Not Require Genetic Vaccination’
https://cassandravoices.com/science-environment/science/healthy-people-do-not-require-genetic-vaccination/
Chilling: their ‘reasons should be explored. If they remain anxious about having the vaccine, the RCN would support their decision. It may be appropriate for employers to consider redeploying them to lower risk areas.’ So nurses either comply or they are viewed as anxious and re-deployed to less stressful(?), less responsible(?) and therefore less fullfiling roles.
Indeed. They can’t do it legally so out it down to some kind of anxiety on taking a vaccine. Are they totally oblivious to the idea that some may actually be awake to all of this and have no fear of Covid, so no need for a vax?
Firstly, I’ve heard from a reliable source, albeit uncorroborated as yet, that in the hospital where I work, the insurance providers have threatened to increase premiums if mask-wearing is relaxed too soon – on the grounds that 27% of the workforce of mostly doctors and nurses have declined the vaccine! This has left me wondering if I should go to an insurance company rather than a hospital next time I become unwell?
Secondly, how can coercion be used to administer a treatment that necessarily requires the consent of the patient? Surely doing so invites the attention of such folk as could angle for compensation for non-consensual administration of medical treatment?
Headline, my reaction: Good!
Listening to Corona ausschuss, very dark and depressing, so this is good news.
I don’t get the point of the Corona Ausschuss anymore.
They are just existing to be their own echo chamber.
The choice of name was already presumptuous.
As for the lawsuits….
As an illustration of how dangerous hospital staff now regard the Unprecedented Worldwide Pandemic.
On a recent follow up hospital consultation at a specialist unit (not via the main entrance) there was no obvious sanitizer station at reception, nor was I invited to hand sanitize on entry to the triage room (blood pressure, temp, heart rate etc.). Nor was there one in the waiting area (though the tropical fish tank provided a pleasant diversion) and neither was I asked when with the Consultant and his charming assistant both of whom wore their masks somewhat informally.
Since we all now know it ain’t spread by touch. And the Government-by-fear has known that since last May.
The RCN also has legal counsel for those who may need it. When will the medical professional association speak up for them?
The medical profession loves the plandemic and the increase in status and funding it brings them.
They are all-in with every pseudo-scientific restriction just because of that.
We’ve seen that before, from 1933-1945 in Germany.
“The medical profession loves the plandemic“
More pointless and obviously untrue and simplistic generalization. Why bother?
Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning? You’ve nothing of value BTL this morning, in fact you’re being a bit of a cunt.
How far have we sunk that this is even discussed.