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patb
patb
5 years ago

Would you recruit anyone who had been vaccinated yet is under 60 (apart from those with a serious existing medical condition) to work with you? I wouldn’t.

sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  patb

I would not ask as medical information is private, unless it is relevant to the job.
Which I think maybe working in a virus research lab or ward might be the only examples I can think of where it might be necessary.

patb
patb
5 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

But the Government has plans for vaccine status to be compulsory. How can Pimlico Plumbers boast of putting it in the contracts of new staff, if it was private?? And not taking on anyone who was unvaccinated?

sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  patb

But does it?
Until (and a big IF) it’s compulsory, I’m going to act like it’s any other vaccine, and this one is irrelevant to me

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  patb

It seems not to be the government making it compulsory but they will facilitate suppliers of goods and services mandating vaxx passports to receive such, and as a condition of employment by those suppliers.

karenovirus
5 years ago

Roundup item 1.

Best wake-up piece to start the week to date.
Might not be Englands Finest on show but who cares.

“Tuesday March 30th, a day that will go down in infamy. . .” for bozo & chums.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

THEY, as in “They think it’s all over”.
Who are you calling “they”?
Oh silly me, you (MSM+ sheep/collaborators) mean the great “unwashed” who are telling you what they think of your ridiculous social distancing and face nappies by heading to the nearest parks and beaches with their/our friends and families.

steve_w
5 years ago

Whether you believe in the vaccines as our ‘way out of this’ or not – its fair to say that vaccine risk/benefit is a moving target – as would be expected for a novel vaccine in early stage testing. Vaccines have been banned for higher age groups in some countries, lower age groups in others. Germany has just banned for under 60s.

UK seems to want to vaccinate everybody including children. We seem to be the most ‘gung-ho’.

Given Sweden has had the most sensible approach to the ‘pandemic’ so far – I might keep an eye on their advice. And as the UK has fared poorly and our general approach of panic -> do something stupid approach to this whole farce, I think the last people I would take advice from is the UK health professionals

GCarty80
GCarty80
5 years ago

Interesting to see an explicitly Christian link here on Conservative Woman, as I’ve often thought that the success of the Sinosphere countries in handling Covid was in part because the people in those countries had few extraterritorial loyalties to make them hesitant to close their borders.

Such loyalties may be to “Christendom”, to “the Jewish diaspora” (in Israel’s case: Zionist Israel explicitly defines itself as a state for all Jews, as expressed in the Law of Return), to “the Muslim ummah”, to “the white race” (which perhaps made Trump hesitate to ban travel from Europe) or to humanity as a whole (in the case of secular Western liberals).

Even in East and Southeast Asia (generally advantaged versus the West by a lack of obesity) it is notable that countries with a strong Abrahamic heritage (Catholic Philippines and Muslim Indonesia) didn’t do as well as the Sinosphere countries.

steve_w
5 years ago

What ages are vaccines being administered to healthy people?

I pulled some data out of this excellent resource

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/vaccination-rollout-and-access/

Israel – above 16
Switzerland – above 75
Netherlands – above 65
UK – above 50
Hungary – above 16
Austria – above 80
Canada – above 65
France – over 75
Portugal – over 65
Italy – over 80
Germany – over 70
Belgium – over 65
Spain – over 45
Poland – over 70
Sweden – over 65

Of course some countries might only be vaccinating older people because they are in the early stages of their programs

I quite hoped that because this is an early, experimental and emergency licensed set of vaccines, that they might stop after they’ve done the vulnerable

Monro
5 years ago

‘….the logical response would be not to expand government intervention further, but to unwind the initial one, i.e., deregulate and privatize healthcare.’

Brilliant!:

The IMF’s claim that mandatory lockdowns and voluntary social distancing played a similar role in driving the economic recession during the pandemic seems mostly unfounded. Available data shows that severe lockdowns reduced population mobility and hampered economic growth more than milder ones. As several studies question also the alleged benefits of lockdowns in suppressing the pandemic, they should be lifted instead of extended or tightened. The main reason to maintain them seems to be the failure of socialized medicine to deal with peaks in the number of covid-19 cases. Yet, it is almost inconceivable that after more than one year since the start of the epidemic some of the world’s richest countries cannot ensure sufficient hospital ICU beds and are lagging far behind in terms of vaccinations. In that case, the logical response would be not to expand government intervention further, but to unwind the initial one, i.e., deregulate and privatize healthcare.’

https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-are-more-economically-devastating-voluntary-social-distancing

KevinMillican
5 years ago

If you don’t want people to be cramped together in parks, maybe you should open up other outdoors facilities so that they can spread out more.

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  KevinMillican

they should turn the wind turbines up a bit

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
5 years ago

“They think it’s all over”
It was a long time ago

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Indeed, about 11 months ago bozo could have declared victory with everyone back to work except the ‘vulnerable’ who would recieve generous support until an effective vaccine was found, tested and properly approved.