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peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago

A quick return to this pro-vax site, to pre-empt the article no doubt being prepared that describes how the US trial of the AZ vaccine produces 100% to 70% numbers of efficacy.
The trial ( which will be used by AZ to apply for US FDA emergency use approval) was conducted in 88 sites across the US and South America. There were a little over 31,000 participants, 2/3rds vaccinated, 1/3 placebo. Of the 31,000 , all of 141 ( 0.4%) were infected from August 2020 ( start of 3 year trial) and March 2021. The 31,000 consisted of OVER 60% of people with acute comobidities, and were substantially weighted to the over 65s.
The interim results being plastered over the media are based on the RELATIVE results of these 141, they are not ABSOLUTE percentages which are a fraction of those publicised.
BUT nowhere is anyone saying how 99.6% of people of which a large majority were older with acute comorbidities did not get the disease. This is supposed to be the ‘most at risk’ group.
Based on these numbers the is absolutely no justification for the current vaccination program, whatever the efficacy or otherwise of the vaccine.

GCarty80
GCarty80
5 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

BUT nowhere is anyone saying how 99.6% of people of which a large majority were older with acute comorbidities did not get the disease. This is supposed to be the ‘most at risk’ group.

“Most at risk” doesn’t mean “most likely to be infected” (that would likely be health care workers, and to a lesser extent other essential key workers) — it means “most likely to die or become seriously ill, if they do get infected”.

peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  GCarty80

Thank you for stating the bleeding obvious!
The point remains that if hardly any of that group get it, its absolutely pointless vaccinating the whole population.
I think your observation about health workers is just a by product of the appalling statistics around infections in hospitals. 60% of the infections was the latest estimate. If the NHS managers had acted earlier in 2020 to organise their resources in the ‘old ways’ of dealing with infectious diseases the numbers of deaths etc could have been halved or more. The very last place you want to be if ill of this or any other complaint is a hospital.
Anyway I have long concluded that the apparent compliance of the UK public with this shit-show has a lot more to do with schadenfraude than anything else.

Rogerborg
5 years ago

On the 17 March (last day with full figures): the UK performed 1,635,141 tests of which 5,795 were positive tests = 0.35% positive rate.

This is just above the 0.32% false positive rate for lateral flow, and well below the 2.3% (and minimum 0.8%) false positive estimate for PCR.

Anybody still reporting these as “cases” is complicit in a monumental fraud.

Sources:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895843/S0519_Impact_of_false_positives_and_negatives.pdf
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4469