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London’s Pseudo-epidemic

Kathy Gyngell has written a cracking piece in Conservative Woman responding to the threat of Tier 3 restrictions for London (a decision on which is expected next Wednesday, though it is being trailed as inevitable) on the basis that an “expert”, Professor John Ashton, said they were needed.

The growing body of evidence on the shortcomings of the super-labs set up to process hundreds of thousands of PCR (polymerase chain reaction) tests every day must have passed him by. Even the BBC was forced to report ‘Hundreds get wrong results due to Covid test error’ in the week preceding this latest round of Covid scaremongering.

That report is but the tip of the PCR iceberg. A week ago, research published in Clinical Chemistry confirmed what Dr Mike Yeadon believes, that laboratory contamination is a major cause of false positive COVID-19 tests. 

Yet once again it is not wise scientists like Yeadon the government heeds but fanatics like Ashton.

You have only to stop and consider the number of people who’ve been told to self-isolate unnecessarily, to stay off work, avoid any human contact,  who’ve been taken away from their front line duties; you have only to consider the number of  hospital patients unnecessarily and dangerously placed on a COVID-19 ward (where they really run a risk of catching it) to marvel at the insouciance with which these ‘experts’ call for more closing down of society and the economy.

Kathy notes a new report on the mass testing of 9,453 Cambridge students that last week found just positives in 10 pools of students, 100% of which turned out on re-testing to be false.

https://twitter.com/pcrclaims/status/1336679025335545857

Undeterred, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has announced mass Covid testing for secondary schools in the worst-affected London boroughs to try to curb rising “cases” in the capital. To be fair, these are lateral flow tests (LFT) not PCR tests, which are more accurate, though will still give false positives and false negatives, particularly if handled incorrectly.

But is London really in the grip of a deadly second wave of coronavirus that would rage uncontrolled if we do not maintain and even tighten the ruinous restrictions? PCR testing might give you that impression.

But what do other data show? Here’s London ICU occupancy.

This shows that only about 80% of ventilation beds are occupied, which is below average for the time of year. While it’s true that absolute numbers of ICU patients are a little above average in London at the moment, as far as hospital capacity is concerned that is not the crucial issue as long as hospitals are within their surge capacity, which they are.

What about 111 calls for potential Covid?

Nothing troubling there. This graph is also a close match in shape to hospital attendances for respiratory illnesses (like Covid and flu), which are still trending below the baseline. So where is this epidemic hiding? It must be somewhere. Perhaps there’s a clue here. This is the UK PCR “cases” graph.

And this is the ZOE app graph of estimated UK symptomatic Covid (which relies on reported symptoms so avoids most of the PCR false positive problems).

Not exactly the same shape – where’s the recent rise in cases? The ZOE team estimate there are currently around 311,000 cases of symptomatic Covid across the UK, a figure that has been in continuous decline since November 4th, before the last lockdown began. Yet this is not the picture our “gold standard” PCR testing is giving us.

So I ask again – where is the runaway epidemic, or even the beginnings of one, that could justify the kinds of life-limiting, job-destroying restrictions we continue to be forced to live under? Nowhere that I can see.

Stop Press: Sweden’s PCR “cases” continue to rise, but its ICU admissions fell last week, according to new figures published yesterday.

Perhaps that’s why the no-lockdown country still has no excess mortality this autumn, and falling fast.

Stop Press 2: The Welsh Government is planning a second firebreak lockdown from December 28th. The inexorable lockdown logic strikes again.

“I’ve Literally Kept My Parents Locked Up Since March” – Conservative MP

Caroline Nokes MP. Not a lockdown sceptic

Speaking on the BBC’s Politics Live on Monday, Conservative MP and former minister Caroline Nokes said:

I’ve kept my parents locked up since March. Literally locked up. I’ve done all of their shopping for them, run every errand, and at one point parked my car over their driveway so they couldn’t get out, because I am absolutely determined they are not going to increase the burden on our brilliant health service. Our brilliant frontline workers have been working incredibly hard over months and are exhausted, so to take unnecessary risks with the NHS now strikes me as being extremely foolhardy. That’s why I supported the measures last week. I’ve seen my area go into Tier 2, where there are still restrictions on the way people can go about their lives.

She later claimed her remarks were “lighthearted”. But there’s nothing lighthearted about the thousands of surgeries cancelled, cancers missed and lives lost through people trying not to burden our “brilliant” health service.

Read the full report in the Mail.

Hospital Hotspot

The Telegraph reports on the shocking case of Tameside hospital in Greater Manchester, where emergency patients were not tested on admission and Covid and non-Covid patients were routinely mixed.

Tameside hospital in Greater Manchester admitted Jean Hale, 79, as an emergency patient in June and put her on a ward with COVID-19 sufferers without swabbing her first.

By that point in the pandemic, NHS hospitals had been instructed to give coronavirus tests to all “non-elective” patients that required an overnight stay.

Tameside and Glossop Integrated Care NHS Foundation Trust accounted for a third of the 52 COVID-19 deaths in England’s hospitals in the week to September 10th. It reported 18 deaths at the hospital, up from six a week earlier.

Meanwhile, Telegraph analysis this week found that at least 100 of its 453 coronavirus patients since the start of August (equivalent to 22%) caught the disease whilst they were in hospital.

Sources have blamed the high number of deaths at the hospital on high rates of COVID-19 infections, as well as demographic factors, and have insisted that the hospital has rigorous infection controls in place.

However, it seems not all the rules were followed.

Where are the fever hospitals when you need them?

Stop Press: Another Telegraph exclusive from its sterling investigative work. The newspaper counted more than 10,000 patients who caught COVID-19 while being treated in hospital. Since August more than 16% of people treated for COVID-19 in hospital caught it whilst there, rising to nearly 40% in Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

A Cockupspiracy

Political theorist James Alexander has penned some “sceptical theses” on the Covid crisis for Lockdown Sceptics, in which he elegantly summarises the development of the sceptical standpoint over the course of the year. Here’s a flavour from the introduction.

I think we have to distinguish COVID-19 from Polis20. COVID-19 is a disease caused by a novel coronavirus, which emerged in 2019. Polis-20 is the universal political response by governments, aided and abetted by the information, opinion and speculation establishments of various media, medical and scientific institutions in the year 2020 to perpetuate a triple policy which deliberately seeks to dehumanise and desocialise us through the use of masksdistancing and lockdown and has the unintended but certainly well understood triple consequence of damaging the economy as a wholeruining our lives by constraining our economic and social activities and causing us to suffer more from deaths for other reasons (whether the reasons are economic, social or indeed medical). Polis-20 is also novel: indeed, entirely unprecedented. It is also foolish and evil: foolish because of its triple unintended consequence, and evil because of the nature of the triple policy itself.

It has a permanent place on the right-hand menu.

Worth reading in full.

A Postcard From the Maldives

Lockdown Sceptics readers Millicent and Nigel have written us a postcard from their terrifying trip to the Maldives, where everyone just wasn’t doing enough to keep them Covid safe.

Our journey to the Maldives began with sufficient Covid safe measures in place. Heathrow was a Covid friendly delight with strict social distancing and mask wearing enforced. We were comforted by our airline mandating full face visors over our masks, alongside gloves for all passengers. Prior to boarding all passengers temperature was taken causing me a great deal of anxiety being in the midst of menopause. Mercifully I passed and was relieved to see all stewards sensibly dressed in outfits suitable for a modern operating theatre.

However I did nearly withdraw my carbon offset payment when I noticed a fellow passenger removing his visor mid flight. He may have been inside his own cubicle in business class, but Nigel and I felt it reckless in the midst of a global pandemic.

Very funny. Worth reading in full.

Santa’s Got Covid! New Low For NHS Project Fear

That’s right, children, no presents this year because Santa’s on life support

The NHS has released a spectacularly distasteful Christmas charity ad that portrays Father Christmas catching Covid and being given oxygen before being nursed back to health. The Mail has given it a syrupy write-up, which seems to miss the mood of its readers if the comments below the line are any indication.

It’s the stuff of nightmares for children, as Father Christmas is rushed into hospital and nursed back to health in an emotional new appeal advert from NHS Charities Together.

The touching film, entitled The Gift, which celebrates NHS staff and volunteers, features a dramatic opening, with a very poorly Santa wheeled into a medical ward by paramedics and given oxygen.

It appears to be touch and go, with machines beeping and staff in full PPE as they do their best to resuscitate the elderly gentleman.

Thankfully he pulls through and over the coming days is nursed back to health by the caring ward staff. …

NHS Charities Together is a collective experience [you what?] representing, supporting and championing the work of the NHS’ official charities. 

The advert, set to the track People Help The People by British singer Birdy, was posted as part of the Gifts That Give Back Campaign, where people are asked to send gifts to NHS staff after such a challenging year.  

In a social media post, the charity said: “We’re delighted to share our Christmas campaign and video, which has been made possible thanks to generous brand partners. We adore the ad and dedicate it to all NHS workers who’ve given everything to care and keep us safe.”

Many people admitted the advert brought them to tears, with one social media user tweeting: “I absolutely love this Christmas film! Thank you to everyone involved.”

Another wrote on Facebook: “Made me cry in a good way! So beautiful.”

The comments BTL in MailOnline were not so complimentary. There were over 1,000 upvotes for “Disgusting manipulative nonsense” and nearly 800 for “How horrible to show Santa unwell, like kids aren’t worried enough.” “This is disgusting,” came in third with nearly 700, and fourth place continued the theme with “NHS Propaganda nonsense. Disgusting.”

Quite.

If you’d like to complain about the ad to the Advertising Standards Authority, click here.

Round-up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Three today: “Will You” by Hazel O’Connor, “Count me out” by Lil Tecca and “Evil is going on” by Willie Dixon.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

Social Media Accounts

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“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review yesterday, but the FSU may appeal the decision. Check here for updates.

Stop Press: Update from Simon Dolan in Conservative Woman: “Our lockdown fight goes on“.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

Thomas Paine

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And Finally…

The satirical news site Babylon Bee has run a story about the new “cowboy hat mandate” in Texas.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott was heard yelling, “Yee-haw!” while firing two revolvers in the air – the traditional way to announce a new Texas law. This law is a new public safety mandate requiring all citizens to wear a cowboy hat when leaving their homes.

“This bill has been a long time coming,” said Abbott. “We need to flatten the curve of people being a bunch of Californians. That means everyone needs to wear a proper hat at all times and be a true Texan. Yee-haw!”

With this bill, anyone seen out in public without a cowboy hat will be approached by a Texas Ranger, who will say, “You ain’t from around here, are ya?” before tossing the offender across the state line.

The bill was mainly met with wide support. “Anytime you see someone near you without a cowboy hat, you feel unsafe,” said Tex Brewer, a Texan. “You wonder what that guy is up to. Is he going to raise my taxes or take my AR-15? I don’t cotton to that.”

The bill did receive some pushback, though. “Hat’s itchy,” said one man.

There will be some exceptions to the cowboy hat mandate, such as if your hat was just shot off your head in a showdown. There is also a mask mandate, but that only applies when you are robbing a train.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

A celebratory has died and it’s not covid

How was that allowed to happen?

The pig dictator is slipping

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Oh! and first by the way

I knew there would be an upside to that dodgy mutton tikka

Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Oh! and first by the way

Judy Watson’s gonna be real angry at you, Cecil. 😉

Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Morning

Why Small Businesses Should Stay Closed Forever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O9ltm_Gml0

AwakenWithJP

Every true word here is said in jest 

Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Dear Lockdown me

MP (who voted for lockdown) tells Andre Walker that they all know Coronavirus is nonsense 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpW4GDidIq8

Kay Burley’s Coronavirus Suspension Proves Hypocrisy of Media Elite

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

You need a passport to top up wi fi ?

Mr Dee
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Was your WiFi classed as a Covid fatality?

Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Dear judy
LIES 😳 “Closing Pubs & Restaurants Zero Effect” 🤦‍♂️ Dutch Study Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWvXszhJEhY

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Up your Khyber

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

At Your Convenience.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I’ll just Carry on Screaming…

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Infamy, infamy …

Monty Greene
Monty Greene
5 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

The laughter hit of 2020…

Carry On Covid!

starring

Whitty……………………….Kenneth Williams
Vallance……………………Sid James
Matt Hancock…………….Jim Dale
Boris Johnson……………Terry Scott
Dido Harding……………..Barbara Windsor
Matron………………………Hattie Jacques
Plasma Donor…………….Tony Hancock
Viral Particle………………Spike Milligan
Neil Ferguson…………… Charles Hawtrey

With a supporting cast of clapped-out dodgy models.

Janice21
Janice21
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

How nice that her husband was able to be by her side in a care home off the last 7 days.

Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Janice21

Celebrities get treated differently than us commoners.

Ceriain
5 years ago

Second again.

Shame about Babs; happy she’s no longer suffering, though.

RIP Babs, say hello to Sid for me.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

I’m still boycotting Aylesbury since, when staying with relatives, I attempted to see Carry On Camping at the ABC Cinema.
It was rated AA but the cashier said I didn’t look 14. Which was true (12 actually) but she ignored my protestations “it’s been on the bloody telly !”

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Very adult vocabulary for as 12 year old.

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Ms Nokes provides yet more evidence (if any more were needed) of the thickness of our MP’s

It is not clear from the article if Ms Nokes parents have mental capacity

If they do have mental capacity it is a clear breach of The Mental Capacity Act for her to make decisions about them in the way that she has

For her to talk about her own parents in this way is disgusting and reprehensible

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Prior to her election Nokes was Chief Executive of the National Pony Club

Well that’s good to know

In August 2011, Nokes joined a Parliamentary delegation to Equatorial Guinea, an African country criticised for its human rights record. 

They have better human rights than us or her parents

Her father is a former MEP

On second thoughts perhaps they deserve each other

fiery
fiery
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

This stupid women will have unwittingly created a whole host of other long term health problems for her parents by infantilising them and keeping them a prisoner in their home. I don’t have children but I’d tell anyone to f**k of if they tried this tactic with me.

GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago
Reply to  fiery

My parents are in their mid seventies and it would be them telling me to f**k off if I tried that with them!

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

It would have been bad enough if she had said she Illegally detained her own parents for their safety.

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I did wonder why they didn’t just get a taxi!

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Thick? Sadistic.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

If I was her mum I would have slapped her on the face hard and disowned her.

Not a good way to treat your parents Caroline. Hope your kids didn’t read your comments and give them ideas. Remember you will grow old as well and what then?

rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I hope they cut her out of their will

Fiona Walker
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They revel in it. The snowflake board that I follow (for trolling purposes) is full of people “setting my parents right” “sent my mum for a test” “told my dad he had to stay in” etc etc. Self righteous puritans in the Saffy from Ab Fab mode whilst their poor parents, with much more life experience and independence, are treated as children. Glad I never had kids.

Hampshire Sceptic
Hampshire Sceptic
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Her father, Roy Perry, was leader of Hampshire County Council until fairly recently. He is still a county councillor so I find it odd that his bossy daughter should treat him in this way.

Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
5 years ago

Oh what dear daughter ’neath the sun
Would treat a father so
To wait upon him hand and foot
And always tell him, “No?”

Tears of Rage
Dylan/Manuel

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Boasting about her behaviour.

What is it about Tory MPs and bragging?

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

I have long thought the quality of recent Labour MPs was a poor shadow of what they used to be. I now realise the Tory MPs are even worse…what a ghastly shower most of them are. I shall never vote for any of the main parties ever again…..utter shit.

Moomin
Moomin
5 years ago

Apparently Leeds hospitals are at covid capacity or worse. Can anyone confirm this or provide details of admissions/cases there?

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Moomin

From previous examples elsewhere it will mean that beds prior allocated to Covid will be full.
Some months ago Blackpool Royal Victoria Hospital was said by Sky News to be ‘full of Covid patients’.
A whistleblower revealed that all 8 Covid allocated beds were indeed full, out of 767.
ie barely 1%.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

my sock drawer is full – overflowing. cant get another sock in there. the other three drawers are almost empty though. but those socks really concern me

crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/search?postcode=FY1+6JJ
Again hardly overwhelming. Someone posted on a friends FB when they challenged the narrative “if you can’t post facts it’s all bollix”. I copied in the link for the stats-in this case-Burnley and wrote. “here’s some facts-I can post more”

Coronabonus
Coronabonus
5 years ago
Reply to  Moomin

Adapnation has info on all NHS England trusts.

crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  Moomin

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/search?postcode=LS11+0ES
figures don’t look too bad according the official stats. Whenever I hear this kind of thing-usually posted on FB to frighten folk I go on the official stats-type in a postcode (I choose the local football teams address).

BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Moomin

Adapnation.io have an interactive hospitals dashboard will give you that info

mattghg
5 years ago
Reply to  Moomin

They do seem to be struggling to find ICU beds, just glancing at the data here: https://adapnation.io/covid-insights/#h-nhs-england-insights

karenovirus
5 years ago

London going into tier 3 just before Xmas?
Fantastic ! Bring it on.
The harsher the regime grinds down the population the sooner and more surely they will rise up overthrow their illegitimate masters.

Welcome to the Leninist school of lockdown Sceptics.

Mark H
Mark H
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I feel the same. I’m cheering on harsher restrictions, 7 months after the first lockdown. Good. Give ‘em what they’ve been clamouring for all these months. Give ‘em at Christmas.

It seems with each new lockdown roll out, more sceptics are created.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

Maybe, but the price is too high. More enslavement can never be good.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

That’s what the Social Democrats and other collaborators said about the Tsarist regime.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I agree. No more enslavement. But I’m in Kent, in Tier 3, and the gloom is palpable as the miseries in masks, sneer and moan, especially at those not wearing naps, because we’re IRRESPONSIBLE, and their Christmas is being spoilt by US selfish ones! Had a couple of incidents yesterday in town with arrogant maskies who attacked not only me but each other for NOT OBEYING THE RULES! I seriously think these people are going to be damaged for life.

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I hope you gave them a damn good slapping….god help any zealot who attacks me.

Danny
Danny
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

Do understand what you mean, but there’s a hell of a lot of us skeptics living in London that would be economically, and psychologically crippled by this too.

PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There are too many that will be glad to fight the virus with more vigour.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Let them eat Xmas Pudding.

Jane in France
Jane in France
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

At least you don’t live in Belgium. Spare a thought for the Belgians. Four people maximum at Christmas but only in the garden. And only if you don’t have to pass through the house to get to the garden. Among the guests in the garden only one is allowed to enter the house to use the loo. What happens if the others need to go? They have to return home. Or squat among the trees like Rex the dog. It’s all in the Brussels Times except for the bit about Rex.

cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  Jane in France

Also, the health minister has banned sex in groups of 3 or more people! Barbaric!
Golfers are allowed to play in groups of four, though – I think I spot a loophole…..

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

Dogging golfers ?

T. Prince
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hole in one?

The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
5 years ago
Reply to  cubby

It’s strange isn’t it? The statement is implicit in saying that Belgians like a bit of the old ménage a tois. As noted about the “loophole” I would just say that I was going for the hole in one. There could also be a snooker reference about not being able to make up my mind whether to go for the pink or the brown.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Jane in France

Eurocrats exempt?

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Jane in France

Belgium has a dark past re slavery and colonialism.

PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I was in Spitalfields market yesterday. The vast majority of stall holders and shoppers NOT wearing masks!

Lili
Lili
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Hurrah!

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

FANTASTIC.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

I watched one of those lovely vids on YT where the person walks around places, mostly London, without commentary. They were in Covent Garden and it was great to see a bit of normality and jollity, and very few naps. Although in the comments, the coronaphobes were out in force.

Bungle
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Great stuff- is it named after John Lenin? Imagine?

Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Will the TSG be going home for Christmas?

crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

if they do, and there is a no deal Brexit, they might not able to get back so easily!

James Leary #KBF
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Yes – your home.

crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

don’t worry, Hancock has responded, gazelle like, and ordered immediate testing in secondary schools using lateral flow method tests. Wonder if they will reduce the positive tests?

Jay Berger
Jay Berger
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I doubt it.
If only the media will continue to frame it as having public support.
And like everywhere else, seasonality will ensure that any policy can be sold as a success henceforth.
https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/bidens-100-day-covid-plan-is-a-destructive

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I cannot agree with this. Businesses will fold and people will choose suicide

Testing, face masks, lockdowns and restrictions are crimes against humanity

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes it serves all the zealots right…feel sorry for those businesses that might have to some extent resisted though….but not for those enthusiastic compliers. But the basic point remains the sheep will not wake up until all societal activity has been terminated…especially their pensions and salaries.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You make a foolish mistake I see most making…. you can’t penalise them into waking up…. BECAUSE THEY FUCKING LOVE THIS!! They are reveling in it. It’s masochistic martyrdom. Like our Dipshit MP quoted above…. poor her, the despotic victim, forced to do such things against her own parents at the alter of the NHS. Like the sacrifice of a certain son to god.

Bring it on… INDEED… they’d quite like that. It’s their new Covidian religion. The spiritual void in the Atheists has been filled by The State. I am an atheist, so obviously not all, but far too many, and I’ve noticied the company I keep is becoming increasingly religious and spiritual as a result.

One need look no further than the masochistic zealots in New Zealand and Victoria to see this is a game you can’t win by giving them what they want.

Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

the ‘identity’ of apparent escape from terror to moral righteousness is an archetypal pattern. Its a new form of an old norm.

https://youtu.be/JBHLAgi2Mkc

Lockdown: The New Tribalism

That points us in the right direction.

Your emotional reaction might set you in righteous self-justifiction too.
That’s up to you to discern.

Deep fear is not available to rationality.
Rationality is invoked to justify the masking over of fear – and it projecting our away from self.
Reason doesn’t take the bait in the first place.
Losing our reason is nor being in our right mind.

Restoring reason is releasing investment in the mind trap.
But under masked fear, such a mind is experienced as compellingly real and tyrannical. No questioning allowed – just lockdown, distance and mask until the habit sets in as immunity to thinking for yourself and a new pair of genes.

karenovirus
5 years ago

From the roundup, ‘Coronor speaks out . . . 7 suicide verdicts in 3 days . . .’

During actual lockdown (late March to early June) Local Live (mirror group news) ran a daily dribble of one, two or sometimes three articles along the lines ‘man found dead on bridge in car’, ‘woman found dead below cluffs’ or ‘well known publican found dead at home’.
These stories invariably ended with ‘police say there are no suspicious circumstances and the coroner has been informed’.

The word ‘suicide’* was never used but for those who hadn’t cottoned on these articles, but not others, were frequently accompanied by an ad from the Samaritans.

For the past month or so these sorts of stories have disappeared. Is it because people have stopped committing suicide or has it got so bad it is being suppressed altogether ?

* so a Google search would not bring it up ?

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Young people topping themselves en mass no longer shifts copy it seems.

Burlington
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

*Try using a different search engine like Duck Duck Go!

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Burlington

yeah, but if the reports specifically omit the word “suicide” then search for suicides wont work on duck duck go either.. that was the point being made

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

The Universe wants you to improve your search technique. 🙂

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Burlington

I read local live for the same reason I listen to the BBC, to know what lies are being disseminated, I believe I am informed enough to resist them thanks largely to LS.

Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

If you truly rest in the peace of your being, then lies have not poisoned your mind. If you have to resist – then perhaps – you are emotionally invested in narratives that are framing what and how you think.

By all means grow in discernment by practicing it.
Education in the discernment of weaponised and marketised manipulation presenting as communication, care or concern is perhaps one the the most primary tools for the releasing of a collective hypnosis.

crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

In London these days hardly a day goes by without a person hit by a train or on the tracks

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Irish government stopped recording suicides during lockdown. Obviously, the guilty conceal their crimes

karenovirus
5 years ago

From Wills first item.
Mass testing of 9,453 Cambridge students
Found just 10 positive, all of them false.

Same here, 6k students with just 3 positives, none in the past week so safe for granny to come over on Xmas day.

Our University tried to impose lockdown light which would have been entirely counterproductive as it would have meant some students still getting Covid in December and taking it home.

Happily they roundly ignored it and mingled away as students will despite the best efforts of the police and uni security.

Marialta
Marialta
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What’s happening with the student anti lockdown group? I haven’t heard much recently

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago

I was just trying to watch mindless TV this evening and I can’t even do that without getting angry at some Covid nonsense. A Cadbury commercial came on and it had a bunch of people on a bus — an occurrence utterly mundane prior to 2020. But the commercial included a disclaimer making it clear that the commercial had been filmed prior to the pandemic and social distancing requirements. FFS!!! Is it now necessary to warn us against anything normal??? Heaven forbid we should be corrupted by seeing people not wearing masks on a bus and sitting next to strangers.

karenovirus
5 years ago

I get YouTube ads with a British Gas fitter inside someone’s home with no mask; no disclaimer thankfully.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve noticed a lot of adverts on YT recently that feature sheep, cows and goats. Coincidence, maybe?

annie
annie
5 years ago

We record all programmes and watch them later.That way, we can fast forward through the ads. Keeps our blood pressure down.

Above all things, we need to remember Normal and remind people of Normal. Miserable, muzzled slavery is NOT NORMAL.

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Indeed, whether we like it or not, it seems that the centre of gravity of normality is slowly being shifted.

Ovis
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Only for the weak-minded.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

There’s an awful lot of weak minds though.

Binra
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

There is the conditioning of repeated experience – but then there is the conditioning of persistent reaction to experience.
We will meet the ongoing experience, in various ways in our lives, but our response is where our primary conditioning occurs.
The discipline of using a negative experience or adverse conditions to generate a positive or integrative response is the aligning to integrity of being, regardless external conditions.
Fear thinks this is either impossible or so big a task as bound to fail.
Willingness for love’s honesty now, listens for the heart instead of mind-noise and finds one step that, repeated in every temptation that is noticed before taking us for a ride, becomes a new ‘habit’. Except it is not habitual subconscious reactions, but a willingness to bring ourselves present to the situation at hand.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago

As if the “Hands, face,space” wasn’t patronising enough, now we we have the farcical “And open a window to let in fresh air, blah,blah, etc.”
Best of luck with that then with my 95 year old mother in law!!
IS THERE A SPECIAL “STUPID” SET OF SCHOOLS,COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES WHERE THEY FIND THESE “EXPERTS” AND “ADVISERS”?

Lili
Lili
5 years ago

Yes. Mostly Oxford and Cambridge.

TheBluePill
5 years ago

Met a friend in a tier 2 pub last week. She hasn’t been watching any propaganda. She looked out of the window at the apartments alongside the canal basin, and wondered why most of the windows were open on a freezing day. She didn’t know that was the new way to survive the scamdemic.

It has got to the point that contemplating the stupidity of the sheeple results in a physical headache.

Ted
Ted
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Getting people used to the cold for when the power gets
Switched off to save the planet

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Ted

Haha very true!

PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago

I’m keeping 2 metres away from Cadbury’s chocolate to avoid catching the obesity virus, Fat1.

Tee Ell
Tee Ell
5 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

Cadburys has been utter shite since the Mondolez buyout, I never buy it any more.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

Unfortunately I have to agree.

stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

They said they wouldn`t close the Cadbury factory in Bristol, prior to the deal going through. As soon as the deal went through they closed it and moved production to Poland. Utter bastards. It has been boycotted ever since in this house.

sam
sam
5 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

i used to love cadburys fruit and nut bars a long time ago when was still cadburys

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago

I saw a Strongbow Cider add and a flap came up saying the same shite. Its treating people like children and trying to normalise the abnormal. Fucking despicable.

annie
annie
5 years ago

I’ve been reading Orlando Figes’ book on the Crimean War. Russia was aggressively expanding its territory. Fears were expressed that Russia’s next target would be British India. The British government knew perfectly well that the fears were groundless, but a gaggle of ‘experts’ used the mass media – newspapers, pamphlets, popular books – to generate a wave of public hysteria that carried Britain towards a bloody, unnecessary and unprofitable war.

Seems like the zombies have always been with us. And the zombie trainers. And the government idiots who defer to them.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The British achieved their actual war aim which was to keep Russia out of the Black Sea* and away from their ultimate target, Constantinople.
The main effect on the media was that technology allowed journalists, notably Russell in The Times, to report on the horrors of war in just three months as the telegraph wires had reached well into the Balkans.

* worked for a generation

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And they all lived happily ever sfter.

Lili
Lili
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Manufactured consent – a procedure used throughout the ages to get the people onside for rich people’s wars.

Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago

Why Small Businesses Should Stay Closed Forever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O9ltm_Gml0

AwakenWithJP

Every true word here is said in jest 

Sir Patrick Vaccine
Sir Patrick Vaccine
5 years ago

Dear Lockdown m toby

MP (who voted for lockdown) tells Andre Walker that they all know Coronavirus is nonsense 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpW4GDidIq8

Kay Burley’s Coronavirus Suspension Proves Hypocrisy of Media Elite

karenovirus
5 years ago

Good find, subscribed.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago

What I want to know is…
How many grannies did Kay Burley kill?

End of Tether
End of Tether
5 years ago

Please does anyone know whether parental consent will be sought for mass testing in London schools and is that legal?

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  End of Tether

Good question.

Lili
Lili
5 years ago
Reply to  End of Tether

Parental consent must be sought – this is a non pharmaceutical intervention – see article 6 of the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights

http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

John
5 years ago
Reply to  End of Tether

All people aged 16+ are deemed to have capacity and can consent or refuse treatment ( there’s a caveat for 16/17 year olds as technically they’re still children). For a child under 16, they can consent to treatment if they are deemed to have Gillick competency. There are three criteria that must be met to determine capacity for these children. If a child (all ages) refuses treatment that is considered essential then a person with parental responsibility can consent on their behalf.
To avoid all possible problems schools usually require parental consent, although technically this is not required for those aged 16 or 17; and bear in mind there will be some who are 18 and are adults.

Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
5 years ago

Some good articles above the line showing some pushback against the narrative but can we just skip to the part where this is all over and everyone says they were against lockdowns from the very beginning.

We’ve known all this is nonsense since March. We’ve been right on every detail. Only now are some parts of the press waking up but still the nonsense continues.

It’s so frustrating.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Come when this is over, those idiots will be going “well I was against lockdowns and restrictions from the beginning.”

It will be our job and sacred duty to remind them that they were not and in fact were active collaborators in the destruction of our society and economy.

Never forgive. Never forget.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

REVENGE IS A DISH BEST EATEN COLD (-70°?)

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Patience, determination, courage, righteous anger – stick with it. Nothing is ever ‘over by Christmas’, but evil can’t win so long as the righteous don’t give in to it.
I wouldn’t dare to claim righteousness in normal life, but in this bollox I do claim it.

Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

I’ll keep going, don’t you worry.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

SNAP.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Always a feeling of deja vu whenever part of the MSM come up with something we’ve known about for months.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

It’s not unfortunately. It’s part of a global financial collapse and pharma opportunism. See Reiner Fuellmich and Ernst Wolff

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

The rumours that London will go into Tier 3 angers me.

I’m in danger of losing my job after the New Year. Any more of this, it will finish us off.

I’m also angry that many of my colleagues are still in denial about the whole thing and are still buying the propaganda wholesale. Any attempts to wake them up is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

Here’s hoping that this will finally wake them up. But I’m not holding my breath.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I can’t believe that there hasn’t been major pushback by businesses who are being shut down on the basis of a dodgy PCR test. I suppose they believe ‘The Science’.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

That’s what constantly frustrates me – all that access to legal advice and they haven’t got the balls to challenge the government.

If anything they have the clout to end all this – just open up with no restrictions and no “safety” measures. Dare the police to issue them fines & threats to close them down.

Refuse to pay & demand that it goes to court. If all of them did it, the authorities wouldn’t know where to start.

Marialta
Marialta
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

In the interview video cited in the newsletter Kary Mullins points out firmly and respectfully that the vast majority of the population do not feel able to contradict scientists. (He goes on to savage Fauci and the other public health officials.) We’ve got to accept this or we will go crazy. It’s the starting point for fight back. I’ve had so many people put me down for being an armchair virologist. They, on the other hand never spend any time or effort to dig below MSM. If they wanted to they could go to Google and find out the following in a few seconds: The PCR test can detect the presence of SARS-Covid-2- the virus that causes COVID -19 but it cannot determine if the individual tested is infectious. PHE have always said that PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. To do that requires virus culture methods which are only possible in a lab and are complex and time consuming. ‘Manufactured consent’ is what we are dealing with as someone said earlier. It’s only possible if people think Positive test = infection. If they don’t know… Read more »

JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
5 years ago
Reply to  Marialta

In my view, this video with Mullins is quite explosive stuff (assuming it is genuine, and it looks so). I wonder where it has been hiding away and why it has not got exposure before. I know his opinion on use of PCR was clear, but his statements about Fauci were new to me (not a surprise, mind).

For more on the snake Fauci (and other matters) it is worth watching Plandemic (1 and 2) I would recommend it especially to those sceptical toward ‘conspiracy theories’. Not saying it is necessarily all true, but have a look and see what you think.

I think we cannot really stop this effectively (and prevent it happening again) without exposing the background.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GiwTPuZcB4dy/

And more on Fauci:

https://breggin.com/coronavirus/Final-Fauci-Treachery-Report-10.19.2020.pdf

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Marialta

It’s worse than that.
Many people honestly believe that if you catch covid you will inevitably die.
The brainwashing has been highly effective!

chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Everyone wakes up in the end. I know people who bought into the lies at the start that are now even entertaining the idea of a great reset. At the very least they know this whole business is shady.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

That’s true. But if you have a workplace full of millenials, it seems harder to get them to wake up.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

They are lost causes. As a millenial myself we deserve to suffer for being complete virtue signalling fuckwits.

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

every generation thinks the one that comes after is a bit shit. its just that young people are a bit shit because they are passionate but know fuck all. millenials will grow into normal people when they’ve been working a few years

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

Sadly as my mum would say sometimes people need to learn the hard way.

And these millenials will indeed learn the hard way especially if the Bank of Mum & Dad can’t afford to bail them out either.

Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

When that happens, the millennials will probably just blame their situation on the slave trade.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

Which will show up the failure of the education system and that they’ve been had.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I’m a millenial, and I never had a Bank of Mum & Dad. Even if I did – they’re long dead and left me nothing but debt to pay. Indeed…. perhaps this is why I’m not swindled like the rest of pathetic, sad-ass generation.

Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

We should really stop broad brushing groups. Went to braintree freeport today and I would say 90% of people were muzzled up. Why? Because every half hour the pa told them, and the signs on the wall told them. Very few millenials so it’s all our age. But I was one of the few unmasked, and every half hour I told the woman on the pa to fuck off. My daughter is a millennial and she would kick your ass if you tried pushing the lockdown bullshit on her. She also went out to meet her mates every night during the first lockdown.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

And I can imagine that your parents taught you to think for yourself!

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Exactly. Businesses already lost a month of trading last November, this month is pretty much salvaging what’s been lost.

They do need to explain why they are doing this and it needs to be the truth. Their usual slogans and soundbites aren’t good enough.

Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

Heads up:

Trials for Australia’s leading potential COVID-19 vaccine from the University of Queensland in partnership with biotech company CSL will not proceed, after some participants recorded positive HIV tests.

https://youtu.be/GO7zGkzCU1w

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I’ve had the media reporting it as false positive HIV results which just sounds like a bullshit spin. Surely if it were false positives they would proceed ahead?

Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

The BBC was trying to spin that story about the woman with her foot rotting after getting the vaccine. They were saying that they have no idea why she has problems with her foot, but it most definitely isn’t because of the vaccine!

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago

Isn’t Caroline Nokes using coercive control on her parents? I thought that was illegal. And the NHS isn’t brilliant. This week my son spent Wednesday in A&E at hospital A, who refused to treat him but sent him home with a cannula in his arm. He lived outside their area. They told him to try hospital B. Thursday was spent at hospital B, who were outraged that hospital A hadn’t treated him. They treat patients from area A. This is true, in the past I have been one of them. But the reason we went to A&E in area A was because we’d been trying unsuccessfully to get an urgent hospital referral at hospital B, our local. They had ignored us and after many messages left for the team we were told by a secretary that a helpline would call. They never did. No communication at all from a medical professional . We never did find out why they didn’t respond to the GP referral. So it took 4 person-days to get life saving treatment for him. I think each hospital has raised an Incident Report on the other. We only got attention at all because we played the system.… Read more »

Janice21
Janice21
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

Shocking but not all together surprising. I hope your son gets better soon.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Janice21

Shocking indeed. It echoes innumerable stories I have heard about NHS callousness, both during this bollox and before.
There ought to be a Royal Commission to inquire into this appalling blot on the nation’s integrity. The Victorians would have done it. Victorian statesmen occasionally showed they had consciences – when sufficiently prodded.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

The team that refused him treatment have treated him before, it’s where we used to live and they have all his records. This was purely about budgets.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

government policy for years (all parties) has been ,”oh there is something fundamentally wrong.. lets reorganise and add another layer of management – that will fix it”

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Anne Widdecombe spent years trying to get parliament to sort out a cross bench investigation from the bottom to the top into the NHS .. She never made it ….

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

and now here in 2020 we know why ! Too important a part of their reset mechanism.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Janice21

Thank you. This is not our first rodeo, we knew what treatment he needed. When he gets it he will, within 24 hours, be magically better. It is truly a miracle to watch. And they are doing the paperwork to set that up. The issue was getting him in front of a medic who could do that without him being blue-lighted into hospital. I appreciate your comment.

chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

Even pre-pandemic the NHS was wanting. It will patch you up great if you get run over by a car. But if you have cancer or MS, ALS, Parkinsons …ME. A diagnosis might take years. Or even be too late. Even Turkey has more and newer MRI machines than us per capita.

FlynnQuill
FlynnQuill
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

Absolutely abhorrent women. Hope she’s proud of herself. This woman probably doesn’t even use the NHS. Saying that, her parents must be weak willed, small minded idiots with no critical thinking whatsoever to believe everything she says. If this woman had said this pre covid, she’d have been arrested. What a difference eight months make.

John
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

Absolutely ridiculous. There was no reason why hospital A could not treat, in fact I would say they had a duty to treat given the seriousness of the potential consequences for not treating. Do they refuse to treat everyone outside of their parish who attends A&E but needs admission?

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  John

When I lived in area A I ended up at hospital B for a broken arm (I think the ambulance crews toss a coin as to where you go 😉). They were fine about treating me, so I know it works that way round. Everyone has been shocked by this.

Their mitigation would be that they wouldn’t admit him anyway because of covid so it was up to hospital B to sort it out.

My experience of the NHS is front line staff are competent and dedicated when you get to see them. Maybe I’ve been lucky but 99% are fantastic. The back office functions are incomprehensible, obstructive and mind numbingly bad.

Saved To Death
Saved To Death
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

I am not sure how anyone can defend the NHS. In my 20s I suffered through multiple botched surgeries which left me in constant pain and discomfort. The NHS would not acknowledge this and continuously implied I was lying or it was all in my head. I have felt days from death for the want of a course of antibiotics. Eventually prescribed in A&E by one of the few good staff after multiple attempts to be treated. It took the best part of a month to recover. When my children have needed treatment it has always been a battle to obtain – yet I have been harassed continuously over a flu vaccine for my 3 year old. I believe in the concept of medical care free at the point of need. That is not what the NHS provides. The NHS is not synonymous with medical care free at the point of need – you are lucky to get competent care at the point of need at all. There are some fantastic staff working who manage to provide excellent care despite the NHS but it seems they are the exception. After the botched surgeries in my 20s I had a low… Read more »

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

The National Hell Service

Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

I worked for the NHS for many years. As a direct consequence I would never spend a night in an NHS Hospital. NHS is riddled with theft (almost considered a perk of the job), corruption, fraud, waste etc. Nobody is ever prosecuted as it’s bad for public confidence so they go elsewhere and do it again. I also decided that should I ever get cancer I would walk away from conventional treatment and I kept my word. I can almost see a parallel with people queuing up for chemo with those queuing up for the vaccine. It’s this ‘you have to suffer to be well’ mantra. The more you suffer, the more noble and brave you are. You could triple NHS funding and most would leave via the back door. Clap for them? Never!

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

“I have felt days from death for the want of a course of antibiotics.”

Make your own. Very effective; they have saved three people’s legs from being amputated due to diabetic ulcers.

https://www.cgcsforum.org/index.php

muzzle
muzzle
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

My daughter has an ear infection and the GPs have been utterly useless. We got a telephone appointment which left us no better off than if we hadn’t had it. We ended up in A&E and they were very helpful, even vacuuming her ear out. The GP suggested we could set up an appointment via patient access but they even got that wrong. I had to phone the hospital myself and find out how to get her admitted. The GP is supposed to be a primary care provider so that people don’t end up in A&E.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  muzzle

I sympathise . Ears are painful. There does seem to be a vacuum around GPs, a lot of communications never escape the negative force field in GP admin systems, so the only way to get attention is to turn up at A&E.

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

All Tories now cheer the NHS to the roof tops….a system so great that no other country uses it. They feel they have to do this or they might get called ‘the nasty party’. Even despite that they still get accused of wanting to sell it to Trump lol…as if he would want to buy it!

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Borisbullshit

Yes, they’ve gone crazy over supporting the NHS, who get overrun and whinge about it every November whoever is in government . It’s a spectacularly wasteful strategy for the Tories.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago

TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, TESTING, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

chaos
5 years ago

Meanwhile in China. Business as usual…

Sam
Sam
5 years ago

I stopped reading this site daily, because it is clear the government is ignoring your counter information. Unless you start to become more activist, everything you publish is doing next to nothing. Figure out how to organize mini groups of people. Figure out how those people can talk to others in the group. Find doctors, lawyers, police officers, etc., and get them talking to their coworkers. Also organize a group that gives people tips or even scripts on how to talk to the others as they walk down the street. For example, I talk to at least 20 people today when I went out for my walk. I started out by saying “have you heard about facial paralysis?“ Then I followed up with the information on for people getting Bell’s palsy, then I let it to where two people died, and then followed up with the one person in England who had a severe toxic reaction. I don’t try to get into a long discussion, unless they’re actively interested. Commenting into this echo chamber, isn’t enough. But if all your readers, or even half of them, we’re talking to five people a day, imagine the numbers.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Most of us do more things than frequent this site.

PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Agree with Annie, I think there are a lot of us that have found more success in person. If you look back to April or May, we were a very small minority. I’ve found posting at the likes of FB, a bit like farting in church.

Bugle
Bugle
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Is that allowed?

Ewan Duffy
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Its only if you have sex in church that they need to cease all services until some magic mumbo jumbo is said by a bishop.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Only if you wear a bottom nappy

Marialta
Marialta
5 years ago
Reply to  Sam

Well said, one can spend hours scrolling down all the brilliant comments on here. I think very many of us are doing activities as well. Tbh even going daily into shops without a mask feels like being an activist. I was next to a masked family in a queue yesterday. The masked up boy was about ten and he started to stare at me, gave me a dirty look! I force myself to smile back and greet as many people as I can. This is an act of transgression 👌

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  Marialta

Yep, lead by example not words. We’ve walked around town using wrong doors, not following arrows, dodged being squirted at with hand gloop, and people have followed or copied us. We’ve even had a couple remove masks when they’ve seen us without them. I always have a little chat and a bit of a laugh with shop staff, to raise the energy. They always look pleased to someone without a mask on. It’s the small things that can make the biggest difference.

chaos
5 years ago

When we were free.. not tracked, not masked, not terrorised, not lied to on such a scale. When the BBC was fun and mostly on our side.

At least Babs is free again. Carry on Babs. Don’t carry on Boris.

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Steve-Devon
5 years ago

FACE-MASK PETITION
As you may have picked up from yesterday’s posts our attempt to launch a face-mask petition was rejected. One reason was that there is an existing petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331174
This is one that was started back in July to try to stop Face-masks becoming mandatory, so the wording is a bit out of date. But the point is this petition is still ‘live’ on the petitions website until January 16th 2021 and it does currently have 3704 signatures. The review of the English face-mask regs is due in January and so we do not have long. Consequently my suggestion is that we do all we can to get people to sign this petition, if we can get the number of signatures upto 10,000 the Government will respond and it will receive a message that there is a body of opinion against mask wearing when they conduct the review next month.
SO PLEASE SIGN THIS EXISTING PETITION AND GET EVERYONE YOU CAN TO SIGN AS WELL THANK YOU.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Thanks, Steve. Done.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Snap.

Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
5 years ago

Ditto

Dan L
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

There’s also another petition above under the section “mask exempt lanyards”

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.”

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331430

Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Signed

claire
claire
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Signed but still showing 3704????

Steve-Devon
5 years ago
Reply to  claire

Now up to 3765, thanks everyone.

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago

Absolutely Patronising mega git on R4 right now!!!

Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
5 years ago

who is it?…I cant bare putting R4 on…….

Fingerache Philip.
Fingerache Philip.
5 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

Some overbearing smug pratt who was/is a “track and tracer” talking about people as if they were 7 year olds; quotes such as:”people who assured me that they were self isolating and were obviously (shock/horror) outside and down the shops and (wait for it! OBVIOUSLY NOT OBEYING THE RULES,AND,AND “EDUCATED PEOPLE TRYING TO GET AROUND THE RULES”
But in his “weasel” words: “most people are sensible and do obey the rules”
I’m starting to wonder if there will be anywhere enough walls,scaffolds and guillotines????

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago

If they would just follow the RuLeS.

mj
mj
5 years ago

and does the pope Sh*t in the woods and are bears catholic ?

SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago

THUMBS UP TO VOTE “YES” 👍
THUMBS DOWN TO VOTE “NO” 👎
In light of the today’s articles I’m really curious about what my fellow skeptics would do in this scenario…
You’re in a car crash and are taken to A&E. Your injuries are bad enough that you’ll prob be in for a few days, however you’re fully lucid and are able to confirm that you have no Covid symptoms and haven’t been isolating etc. They want to give you a PCR test for Covid – do you allow them to?
Please use buttons to vote and comment if you’d like to expand!

Hill Street Bluez
Hill Street Bluez
5 years ago

Don’t think in those circumstances declining the test would be an option. The NHS as I understand it makes treatment conditional on taking a Covid test. In an ideal world we would be free to choose. I fear that modus operandi will soon be extended to all of society… substitute ‘doing stuff’ for ‘treatment’….’jab’ for ‘test’…

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago

I would be surprised if most nurses/doctors left an RTA to bleed to death because of a declined test. Maybe I’m living in the past though ?

Arnie
Arnie
5 years ago

I’ve been in hospital recently. I refused the covid tests every day. Treatment continued as normal…

For three days there were two discarded masks under the bed opposite me…

My advice? Avoid hospitals & anything NHS like the plague! If they aren’t infecting you with something you didn’t have they are attempting to destroy your mental health, and if that doesn’t work they are trying to destroy your family & friendship bonds. STAY AWAY.

Arnie.

PS. Don’t get tested. EVER!

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Arnie

I can attest that this was the case long before Covid. The NHS wants to detroy you. End of.

Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago

In my current experience of working in the Nhs (😣) it is not compulsory. Consent has to be gained. The staff caring for the patient ring the swab team. However the one time (yes one) I witnessed a patient decline/refuse the swab team were still called (they work in pairs) and they said if she didn’t have the test she would be treated as a positive case despite having no symptoms. Then they did their best to change her mind and were successful.
If that were me I’d be treated as positive as it would mean a side room! But they didn’t explain that to her.

mj
mj
5 years ago

in a normal world, then yes, a test is necessary to establish if you are covid positive or not and if you are , then keep you separate from those who have not got the rona. However that is predicated on the test working and being 100% accurate, and the hospital actually segregating patients .
As neither of these apply, dont get tested . . It doesnt matter anyway. Even is you were not infected when you went in , you will be infected when you come out .

Cheshirecatslave
Cheshirecatslave
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I read an article about a woman refused a hysterectomy as she declined a test. She was willing to isolate.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

Sorry to say, but I’ve lost all respect for the NHS. They would most likely make you wear a face mask too, so you wouldn’t be able to breathe properly

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

The obvious solution is to close all hospitals to prevent the spread of the deadly virus.

steve_w
5 years ago

I can just see (if I squint) why there was panic in March.

I just can’t see it now. ‘Cases’ on the way down before lockdown 2, hospitals underutilised, total mortality (or excess deaths) not exceptional.

I can only assume they still believe Ferguson’s model and paper 9. That only 10% are immune and the only thing in their power to stop 500,000 deaths is lockdown and tiers.

chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

nope. great reset. vaccine money. kerching. hunger games…

stefarm
stefarm
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

500,000 excess deaths!! caused by lockdown not by the flu

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  stefarm

I’m surprised all cause mortality isn’t higher. the govt has spent all year trying to suppress peoples’ immune systems through stress and lockdown

Ed Phillips
Ed Phillips
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

There are some bonuses to avoiding the NHS.

rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Ed Phillips

Yes .a third leading cause of death…medical mistakes

cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

There was enough evidence available if you knew where to look in March that this was turning out to be no worse than flu.
It was obvious by the time Covid 19 was downgraded from an HCID by the government on March 19 that this was the case. Since I’ve had some medical training and was badly hit by flu in 2019 I got informed and was able to see this.
I naively expected the same diligence of our government. Each MP should have done at least the same research that I did before deciding to fuck the country. It’s not hard, it’s even findable in Google. You just have to give a toss.
What’s happened since then can really only be explained as a high level conspiracy theory by Big Pharma/ Big Business, opportunistically preying on the ignorant.

chaos
5 years ago

So what’s the betting Boris will cave in to the EU? Or talks again get extended?

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Trust me – Margaret Keenan has ‘disappeared’. What’s the betting she resurfaces in Brussels and there’s a lot of assassinated EU negotiators.

FlynnQuill
FlynnQuill
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

It’ll be the tenth final deadline, similar to a fate worse than death, or the best of the best.

Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

It’s a dead cert.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

guaranteed he’ll flop to their demands. Pales in comparison to the destruction of COVID. I’ve barely been following it.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

Same here,

One year ago it was all Brexit.

I couldn’t give a shit really.

Does it matter whether I am tracked, traced, masked and vaccinated in the EU or tracked, traced, masked and vaccinated in the UK?

No.

Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I voted leave but I’d be happy to remain right now: it would give me slightly more access to escape routes from this country. Shame we’re going to end up with the worst of both worlds.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

The only place left right now is republican states in America. I need to try shoehorn my job into making a visa possible.

Jamie M
Jamie M
5 years ago
Reply to  Mabel Cow

yes heard on the news last night that the EU will be shut to UK citizens for anything other than essential travel … It seems if you have left the EU you are more likely to transmit covid! The tit for tat begins …never thought leaving the eu was a very bright idea and the EU will certainly do their best to prove me right

Kevin 2
Kevin 2
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Neither.
He is angling for no deal.

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Kevin 2

I predicted no-deal last December – because I assumed dePiffle would be too lazy and shallow to push for anything that required effort.

Kevin 2
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

I’ve also been predicting it (mainly to myself) for much of the year.
Well at least from the time that Scummings appointed Frost as the non-negotiator.
But not because dePiffle is too lazy, rather to intentionally further hobble the economy and to create supply chain meltdown (and cause a 20% devaluation of the £ and stagflation even on food).

Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Kevin 2

I’d underestimated what a truly odious character he is.

Today’s UK Column does an excellent analysis of wheree it all looks to be heading.
TTIP looms again!
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-11th-december-2020

The Bigman
The Bigman
5 years ago

STRAW POLL!

How many here believe the measures taken and proposed have anything to do with Covid-19 or any other virus for that matter?

Answer Yes (you believe they are) or No (nothing to do with any alleged virus)

Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No.

The very notion is risible.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

It’s purely political, the virus is just an excuse to trash our lives. They are evil monsters.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

I think many in positions of influence believe that they are about covid-19.

xplod
xplod
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No! Never has been about a virus.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

Nope

Josephine K
Josephine K
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No, no,no. It’s about money,money,money and control, control, control

Steeve
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

YES

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

Yes.All the rest is government cowardice and stupidity. And zombyism. And opportunistic grabbing for power by evil and corrupt individuals.

PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

Yeah, but no, but yeah, but

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

I think its stupidity, groupthink, panic, throwing good money after bad etc.

I think this is the template

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign

Arnie
Arnie
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

Sodastream
Sodastream
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

William C
William C
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

Burlington
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No
At the end of 2019 start of 20 the virus was just another seasonal flu bug. This criminally insane government used it as an excuse to introduce their totalitarian regime.

Mutineer
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

Hell no!

cubby
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No, No, NO!

Allan Gay
Allan Gay
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No.
The parasites are consuming the host.

leggy
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

It’s not about a virus, unfortunately. It’s about money and control

Ernst Wolff – Corona: The Collapse of the System

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8LYjOEib9iI

Reiner Fuellmich – ‘Crimes Against Humanity’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4-CcXb0sA

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No

Spikedee1
Spikedee1
5 years ago
Reply to  The Bigman

No. Even the black death would struggle to justify this bullshit.

Paulus
Paulus
5 years ago

So Santa is saved by our glorious NHS despite his great age, must be very reassuring to all the families who’s elderly relatives were not admitted, failed to receive treatment and had DNAR’s applied in their best interest. Even without the impact on children this is totally tone deaf and lets hope lots of folks complain.

steve_w
5 years ago
Reply to  Paulus

Is that the BBC? Only thing I watch on that is Victorian Farm

Paulus
Paulus
5 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Feels like it should be the British Bias Corporation, but no. The story is covered in the news feed with a link to raise a complaint.

Josephine K
Josephine K
5 years ago
Reply to  Paulus

I’d like to complain, I don’t need to watch it to know it’s wrong. The complaint form wants details of when it was on
Anyone able to help?

GuyRich
GuyRich
5 years ago

So, Kary Mullis dies on August 7th, 2019, of Pneumonia no less. Then his PCR invention, that he explicitly stated wasn’t to be used as a diagnostic tool, is used as a diagnostic weapon by governments the world over. Again, colour me shocked.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  GuyRich

Died of pneumonia at age 74 according to wikipedia.

Amazing to think, isn’t it, that people have always died of respiratory diseases.

74 isn’t very old these days, especially for someone with a generally high living standard, as Mullis presumably had.

Pneumonia – in summer, in California.

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago
Reply to  GuyRich

Yes, I imagine he would have a lot to say right now and the powers that be can’t have people speaking the truth. We daren’t have that.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  GuyRich

The ‘fact checkers’ have really been at work on Mullis, trying to say that he would have been completely behind PCR as a diagnostic tool for covid.

Dead men tell no tales – and they don’t argue with you either.

muzzle
muzzle
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Fact Checkers = Ministry of Truth 🙁

JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I know FCs are nefarious, but how on earth do they bend that one?

Got any links?

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  GuyRich

There is another. Brandy Vaughan, an ex Pharma exec who turned whistle-blower who was found dead recently. I don’t know much about her

GuyRich
GuyRich
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

I read about this one briefly. So many ‘coincidental’ deaths eh?

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

Nice decorations but that’s appalling.

The only thing missing is The Specials’ Ghost Town playing on the loop.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

See Christmas and die.

PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago

You’d think that Beff Rugby would be quiet for a few months, wouldn’t you? She now works for PIE News. Her first piece to camera?
” My sources tell me that an obesity virus is on the way to the UK. Scientists at Imperial College have warned that the virus, named Fat1 will be more devastating than Coronavirus.
SAGE have confirmed this and inform me that a vaccine is on the way. Priority will be given to anyone who weighs more than Kylie Minogue. “