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Letter From a Care Home Whistleblower

A Care Home Assistant has written to Lockdown Sceptics in response to our request for information about the neglect of elderly residents in care homes.
She begins:
My experience of working through COVID-19 is one that can best be described as harrowing, heartbreaking, and infuriating, which has left me with a sense of loss and emptiness that borders on overwhelming – but not for the reasons the media, this Government or the NHS would have you believe. COVID-19 has brought out the very worst in the care industry giving our managers, team leaders and head office carte blanche to run roughshod over the rights of both their staff and their residents. I have listed a few of the things I have experienced and witnessed as a result.
There then follows a catalogue of appalling neglect and abuse, such as the following:
Forced testing – management made it absolutely clear within the XXX home that staff who did not get tested for COVID-19 on a weekly basis would be refused shifts despite this being a clear breach of contract. The same home also demanded that all their residents be tested for COVID-19 (later when the tests became more widely available around late spring to summertime) including those with dementia who had to be held down in their beds or chairs while a nurse performed the extremely invasive procedure. This caused such distress to the confused people that many of them screamed, cried in fear and thrashed about violently, causing themselves injury. Despite this failure to act in the best interests of the residents, management did not alter their instructions and the testing continued regardless of the danger and distress it caused the staff and residents. Another home run by XXX has declared it a disciplinary offence, which would result in being sacked, to refuse COVID-19 tests or even to argue with the management against such a decision – another violation of workers’ rights.
Worth reading in full.
We have put this whistleblower in touch with David Rose, the investigative journalist who is working on this story. If you know of similar stories, or you’re a care home worker with a story to tell, please contact us here.
Police Investigation of Grimes and Starkey on Hold After Backlash Over Free Speech
Yesterday, the Metropolitan Police contacted Darren Grimes and David Starkey to tell them that the investigation into them for stirring up racial hatred – a crime that carries a maximum of seven years in jail – had now been put on hold while it’s being reviewed by a “senior officer”. In other words, they’re abandoning this absurd investigation.
Toby issued a statement about this development in his capacity as General Secretary of the Free Speech Union.
I’m relieved that this is over, but alarmed that the police embarked on this witch-hunt in the first place.
Dr David Starkey’s words never came anywhere near meeting the threshold for stirring up racial hatred, let alone Darren Grime’s decision to broadcast them.
The Free Speech Union was able to find a top criminal solicitor to defend them and helped galvanise support across the media and in Government. But for every person we’re able to help, ninety-nine go undefended.
Everyone should be defending the right to free speech, not just those on the frontline. If you don’t stick up for the speech rights of contrarians — even those who offend people — the authorities will eventually come after you.
As George Orwell said, “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
You can read about the police’s decision to put this ridiculous investigation on hold in the Mail, the Times and the Telegraph.
Has the Government Ditched SAGE for the WHO?

Is Dr Tedros Adhanom the new Sir Patrick Vallance? Now that lockdown-loving SAGE has switched horses to Labour, having been side-lined by the Government, and with Health Secretary Matt Hancock ruling out herd immunity and focused protection on Tuesday, it looks like the Government is pursuing a “third way” backed by the WHO.
WHO Chief Scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan has penned a piece in the Telegraph, reiterating her boss Tedros Adhanom’s recent dismissal of herd immunity and setting out the WHO’s latest position. It bears a striking resemblance to the Government’s approach.
Dr Swaminathan begins by rehearsing the arguments against herd immunity and focused protection, claiming they mean “wasting precious resources discriminating against high-risk groups”. Professor Sunetra Gutpa has responded to her critics in UnHerd. I have interpolated her responses into Dr Swaminathan’s criticisms to illustrate how each point can be countered.
Dr Swaminathan: First, herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus with the use of a vaccine, not by exposing them to it. For example, herd immunity against measles requires about 95% of people to be vaccinated. Once immunised against measles, they act as a protective buffer preventing the virus from circulating and infecting the remaining 5% of the population who are unvaccinated.
Prof Gupta: Measles, if it arrives on ‘virgin soil’, can devastate a population. In Tahiti and Moorea and the South-east and North-west Marquesas, between 20% and 70% of the population was lost to the first epidemic. Natural infection with measles provides lifelong immunity, and we now have a vaccine which provides similar solid, durable protection. We have not been able to eliminate the disease, but those who rather selfishly choose not to vaccinate their children are only able make that choice because the risks of infection are kept low by those who are immune – currently, a combination of those, like me, who caught it and recovered and many others for whom it is vaccine induced. The vaccine does not work in babies, which is why you have to wait till they are a year old before they get it. We can do this because herd immunity keeps the risk of infection down, so they are are unlikely to be infected in their first year of life. Without this herd protection, many under ones would die (as they regularly do in sub-Saharan Africa) despite a vaccine being available.
Dr Swaminathan: Second, we are nowhere close to the levels of immunity required to stop this disease transmitting. We know from sero-epidemiology studies that less than 10% of the global population has shown evidence of infection. That means the vast majority of people are still susceptible to the SARS-CoV2 virus. To achieve herd immunity for SARS-CoV-2, it is estimated that at least 60 to 70% of the global population – over five billion people – would need to be infected which, in the absence of a vaccine, may take years. Furthermore, as with other coronaviruses, reinfection cannot be ruled out, exposing people to disease again and again. Cases of reinfection have already been reported.
Prof Gupta: The development of immunity through natural infection is a common feature of many pathogens, and it is reasonable to assume that COVID-19 does not have any tricks up its sleeve to prevent this from happening – it would pose a very serious problem for the development of a vaccine if it did. Having said this, the COVID-19 virus belongs to a family of viruses which do not typically give you lifelong immunity against infection. Most of us will never have heard of these other four ‘seasonal’ coronaviruses that are currently circulating in our communities. And yet surveys indicate that at least 3% of the population is infected by any single one of these corona cousins during the winter months. These viruses can cause deaths in high risk groups or require them to receive ICU care or ventilator support, so it is not necessarily true that they are intrinsically milder than the novel COVID-19 virus. And like the COVID-19 virus, they are much less virulent in the healthy elderly and younger people than influenza.
One important reason why these corona cousins do not kill large numbers of people is because even though we lose immunity and can be reinfected, there is still always a decent enough proportion of immune people in the population to keep the risk of infection low to those who might die upon contracting it. Also, all the coronaviruses in circulation – including the Covid-19 virus – have some features in common which means that getting one coronavirus will probably offer some protection against other coronaviruses. This is becoming increasingly clear from work in many labs, including my lab in Oxford. It is against this background of immunity from itself and its close relations that COVID-19 virus has to operate…
Unfortunately, we do not have a good way of telling how many people have actually been exposed to the new virus, or how many people were resistant to start with. We are able to test for antibodies – and my lab in Oxford has been doing so since early April – but, as with other coronaviruses, COVID-19 antibody levels decline after recovery, and some people do not make them at all, and so antibody levels will not give us the answer. More and more evidence is accumulating that other arms of immunity, like T cells, play an important role.
Indications of the herd immunity threshold having been reached are available from the time signatures of epidemics in various parts of the world where death and infection curves tend to “bend” in the absence of intervention or to stay down when interventions were relaxed (in comparison with other locations where the opposite happened). But we do not know how far we are from it in most parts of the UK. It is important to bear in mind that the attainment of the herd immunity threshold does not lead to disease eradication. Instead it corresponds to an equilibrium state in which the infections lingers at low levels in the community. This is the situation we tolerate for most infectious diseases (like flu which kills 650K people every year globally). The situation can be vastly improved through vaccination, but it is very difficult to eliminate the disease even with a good vaccine.
Dr Swaminathan: Third, letting the virus spread through populations unchecked would have devastating consequences for communities and health systems. Far too many people would develop severe disease and die, hospitals would be overwhelmed with the influx of patients, particularly as flu season takes off in the northern hemisphere, and communities would be ravaged by the sheer number of people in need of care. We also have no idea how many people will suffer the debilitating impacts of post-Covid syndrome or “Long Covid”, or for how long. Many people describe suffering from months of persistent fatigue, headaches, “brain fog” and trouble breathing. Other serious conditions from being sick with COVID-19 – such as physical and cognitive limitations, psychiatric problems and issues with the lungs, heart and brain – are being reported.
Prof Gupta: It is not at all unexpected that some people would suffer post-viral symptoms for extended periods of time (I believe I did!) and that it may be quite debilitating for some. Among the lessons we could learn from this crisis could be a wider recognition of the frequency and intensity of post-viral syndromes and an investment in support (leave of absence from jobs, help with daily activities) of those unfortunate enough to suffer in this way. But it is not a new phenomenon and cannot be a good enough reason to stop the world and potentially let tens of millions of people starve to death.
Dr Swaminathan: Fourth, it is a mistake to believe that the virus only severely impacts older people and those with underlying conditions. Research has shown that mortality increases significantly with age, but younger people with no underlying health conditions have developed severe disease and died. At the peak of Italy’s outbreak, up to 15 per cent of all people in intensive care were under 50.
Finally, how would this theoretical “focused protection” play out in the real world? Governments are already encouraged to protect high-risk groups, as part of a raft of public health measures that are only effective when applied together. Choosing a single intervention, with disregard for the realities of local transmission, would be unwise, ineffective and deadly.
Prof Gupta: We are of course also able to test for presence of the virus, and there is much attention on this with ‘test and trace’ strategies. However this test, known as the PCR test, is of limited value as it cannot tell us whether someone is infectious and can pass on the disease, whether they have the virus but cannot pass it on, or indeed whether the virus has been destroyed by the immune system and only fragments remain. This means that we need to make public health decisions based on only partial information, and in a changing environment, and is why assumptions of how many people have been infected and are immune are so important.
The Great Barrington Declaration proposes a solution for how we may proceed in the face of such uncertainty. It suggests that we exploit the feature of this virus that it does not cause much harm to the large majority of the population to allow them to resume their normal lives, while shielding those who are vulnerable to severe disease and death.
Under these circumstances, immunity will build up in the general population to a level that poses a low enough risk of infection to the vulnerable population that they may resume their normal lives. All of this can happen over a period of six months, and so this Focused Protection plan does not involve the permanent segregation of the vulnerable from the rest of the population…
Many components of protecting the vulnerable have already been enacted in the process of locking down so we should be discussing how these can be improved rather than dismissing them. Directing efforts at hospitals and care homes is one obvious priority. Other parts of the problem – such as the protection of vulnerable people within family settings – require careful discussion and thought, but it must always be borne in mind that these are temporary measures and in the long run could save more lives than cycling in and out of destructive lockdowns.
Dr Swaminathan goes on to explain what the WHO is now proposing. It is recommending controlling outbreaks through “decisive action to suppress transmission” with “robust testing and contact tracing”. This will enable targeting of “disease clusters” while avoiding “punishing national lockdowns”. Sound familiar? She claims: “We’ve seen this approach succeed in many countries,” though fails to name one, and I can’t think of any. New Zealand? But it is an island in the middle of an ocean and now closed for the foreseeable future. She pins her hope on the arrival of an “efficacious SARS-CoV2 vaccine… as early as next year”, at which point “we can realistically and safely strive for herd immunity”.
Yet Kate Bingham, chairman of the UK Vaccine Taskforce, warned on Tuesday that a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, like flu vaccines, will likely only be up to 50% effective. The head of the Oxford University coronavirus vaccine team, Professor Andrew Pollard, doesn’t seem to think that will be enough to protect the elderly and the vulnerable, saying: “Even if we had enough vaccine for everyone, it’s unlikely that… the physical distancing rules can be just dropped.”
If 50% isn’t good enough, though, what is the WHO’s envisaged endpoint, since that may be as good as it gets? Or if it is good enough, why can’t we just get on with aiming for herd immunity now?
It’s hard to see how this waiting around under lockdowns can be ethical. As Dr Matt Strauss argues in the Spectator yesterday:
If lockdowns were a prescription drug for COVID-19 treatment, the FDA would never have approved it. The seminal Imperial College London paper and other mathematical models like it were used to justify their use, but clinicians would never prescribe a drug or propose a surgery based on such modelling. The now well-publicised failure of these models to accurately predict COVID-19 outcomes proves the rule.
Dr Swaminathan concludes by saying until an effective vaccine is here “we have to outsmart this virus, by understanding where and how it spreads, and not giving it a chance to do so”. This seems an extraordinarily naïve statement from the WHO chief scientist given the last 10 months. Meanwhile, life is largely back to normal in Sweden and other places that didn’t impose lockdowns. If the Government is now taking its science from the WHO rather than SAGE then it needs to think again.
Stop Press: Stacey Rudin has written a fascinating piece in AIER on “What’s Behind The WHO’s Lockdown Mixed-Messaging“. The answer may have something to do with China.
Liverpool is Always Short of Hospital Beds

A shortage in ICU beds in Liverpool was making the news yesterday. Here’s the Times.
Intensive care units at Liverpool’s main hospitals are at 95% capacity as a rebellion against the lockdown by local businesses grows.
Sources have told the Times that the number of COVID-19 patients across all beds is expected to surpass its April peak in the next seven to 10 days.
About half of the intensive care beds across the Liverpool University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust have been taken by patients with the virus, according to the Financial Times.
However, what they don’t mention is that Liverpool ICUs are almost always operating at close to capacity during the autumn and winter. A reader dug these stats out from 2018 and 2019 from the Department of Health website.

The Mail has spotted the story too.
Liverpool’s biggest hospitals are only 10% closer to capacity than normal for October, official data has revealed.
The city’s NHS critical care beds are usually 85% full at this time of year, with 51 out of 60 beds occupied across three hospitals, according to NHS England data from the past six years.
But councillor Paul Brant has warned Liverpool’s intensive care units are already at 95% capacity, sparking fears of an impending crisis. One senior doctor has claimed only 58 out of 60 beds are currently full, with half thought to be filled by coronavirus patients.
The underlying problem here is surely that our “world-beating” NHS has only 6.6 ICU beds per 100,000 people. That compares to 38.7 in Germany, 29.4 in the US and 11.6 in France. Maybe some of the obscene sums spent dealing with this confected crisis should go on that.
At the Sign of the Three Bellends

A Merseyside pub got a surprise new name overnight on Wednesday as the owner protested the pub’s closure as part of the tier three lockdown. The Mail has the story.
A Merseyside pub has been cheekily renamed in an act of defiance towards the Government’s new lockdown restrictions in the area.
The James Atherton in New Brighton, the Wirral, has renamed itself “The Three Bellends” – with a sign featuring the faces of Prime Minister Boris Johnson, his close adviser Dominic Cummings and Health Secretary Matt Hancock.
The sign appears as pubs were forced to close in the Liverpool area on Wednesday as part of the Government’s new three-tier system of coronavirus restrictions for England.
Stop Press: Professor Angus Dalgleish in Mail asks how Hancock is still in a job in a searing take down that is well worth a read.
Covid Is Not Categorically Different

Donald J Boudreaux at the American Institute for Economic Research has penned an insightful piece on the terrible psychology of Covid overreaction.
Since March, the coronavirus has been treated as if it is a danger categorically different from other dangers, including other viruses. But this treatment is deeply mistaken. The coronavirus is not a categorically different danger. It occupies a location on the same spectrum that features other viruses. Reasonable people can and do debate just where this location is – that is, how much more dangerous is the coronavirus than are ordinary flu viruses and other ‘novel’ viruses that plagued us in the past. But the coronavirus is well within the same category as other viruses.
Yet humanity has reacted – and continues to react – to the coronavirus as if it is a beast that differs from other health risks categorically. The hysterical overreaction by the press, public-health officials, and politicians – an overreaction undoubtedly supercharged by social media – has convinced many people that humanity is today being stalked by a venomous monster wholly unlike anything to which we are accustomed.
Only by assuming that this virus differs fundamentally from other risks can governments continue to get away with unprecedented and arbitrary restrictions on peaceful human activities – restrictions on activities such as working at the factory or office, on dining out, on attending religious services, on going to school, and even on seeking medical treatments for non-Covid-related ailments. Only by being convinced that the coronavirus poses a threat categorically unique are ordinary men and women led to change their ways of living and interacting as fundamentally as many have done, and to tolerate the categorical change in governments’ responses to epidemics.
The trouble is that people seem to want to be scared.
Very many people today seem almost eager to be misled about the danger posed by Covid. Much of humanity today appears to perversely enjoy being duped into the irrational fear that any one of us, regardless of age or health, is at the mercy of a brutal beast categorically more lethal than is any other danger that we’ve ever confronted. I hope that my despair proves misguided.
Worth reading in full.
COVID-19 Antibodies Provide Lasting Immunity

Researchers at University of Arizona Health Sciences have confirmed that COVID-19 immunity is lasting. The Medical Xpress has the details.
One of the most significant questions about the novel coronavirus is whether people who are infected are immune from reinfection and, if so, for how long.
To determine the answer, University of Arizona Health Sciences researchers studied the production of antibodies from a sample of nearly 6,000 people and found immunity persists for at least several months after being infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
“We clearly see high-quality antibodies still being produced five to seven months after SARS-CoV-2 infection,” said Deepta Bhattacharya, Ph.D., associate professor, UArizona College of Medicine – Tucson, Department of Immunobiology. “Many concerns have been expressed about immunity against COVID-19 not lasting. We used this study to investigate that question and found immunity is stable for at least five months.”
Based on results from SARS they are hopeful for longer lasting protection.
“The latest time-points we tracked in infected individuals were past seven months, so that is the longest period of time we can confirm immunity lasts,” Dr. Bhattacharya said. “That said, we know that people who were infected with the first SARS coronavirus, which is the most similar virus to SARS-CoV-2, are still seeing immunity 17 years after infection. If SARS-CoV-2 is anything like the first one, we expect antibodies to last at least two years, and it would be unlikely for anything much shorter.”
How Many Hospital “Cases” Are Really Covid?
A top NHS doctor and regulator contributor to Lockdown Sceptics has written a short note for us on the Government’s incomplete and misleading data on hospital admissions.
An eagle-eyed reader in the comments yesterday noticed that the number of ‘patients admitted with Covid’ is the total of the number of patients admitted with a positive test on admission, and the number of patients who tested positive after a number of days in hospital.
He wonders whether this is muddying the waters in respect of the accuracy of the stats – and he is quite right to ask that question.
To try and achieve a bit of clarity – some patients present to hospital with symptoms consistent with Covid and a positive test that has already been done elsewhere. They are classified as ‘admissions positive’.
Some patients present to hospital with symptoms consistent with Covid but have not been tested. They are regarded as possible Covid (as it could be flu, or pneumonia for other reasons). Those patients are tested on admission, but the test result doesn’t come back for a couple of days. If it turns out to be positive, that patient is then put in the Covid admission column.
Some patients present to hospital for a totally non-Covid reason – he mentions his wife having a caesarean section. On admission all patients are swabbed for Covid even if they have no symptoms and they are not likely to either. If the swab then comes back as positive, they are then listed in the Covid admission column. You can clearly see the problem with this, in that a whole load of patients who have no Covid symptoms, never develop any and are in hospital for totally different issues are classified in the Government stats as Covid admissions.
Unfortunately, the officially released statistics are insufficiently granular to distinguish which patients listed as ‘Covid admissions’ are actually sick with Covid and which are merely co-incidentally positive with no symptoms.
Whilst in hospital, all patients are routinely swabbed at regular intervals. So, a patient can be admitted for example after a minor stroke. Swabbed on arrival – swab negative. During the stay in hospital, the patient will be swabbed every few days. Suddenly on, say, day eight, a swab comes back positive. Patient added to the Covid admissions column despite not having any symptoms and having contracted the infection while in hospital. This has been flagged up by the Oxford CEBM already, because the proportion of patients contracting the infection whilst in hospital seems to be increasing – i.e., coming in without Covid and picking it up as a hospital acquired infection (though of course, most of them will have no clinical symptoms).
So, in summary, the headline figure broadcast of ‘patients admitted with Covid’ includes:
– Patients who really are ill with Covid and need treatment
– Patients who test positive but have no symptoms and are in hospital for an unrelated issue
– Patients who arrived without Covid, but contracted it in hospital and may never have developed symptoms eitherUnfortunately, we can’t be told what percentage of the reported ‘admissions with Covid’ actually have symptoms of the disease and other confirmatory tests (characteristic Chest X-ray signs, lowered arterial oxygen on blood gas analysis, raised inflammatory markers, high temperature, etc). These are the true ‘Covid positive’ patients.
It is not clear to me why we can’t be told this information, but one can be sure that the headline figure reported on the BBC of daily admissions with Covid is almost certainly higher than the number of patients admitted with symptoms of Covid for active treatment and possibly very much higher.
Plus, of course, some of the patients tested as positive will in fact be false positives on the PCR…
Not having data on symptoms also deprives us in the UK of having clear data and charts on cases by date of symptom onset like they have in Spain, which provide an important early indication of the shape of the epidemic and how it is developing. We’ve only had nine months to sort this out.
How Many Died Because They Were Kicked Out of Hospital?
A Lockdown Sceptics reader has put together this graph that raises the question how many died because they were kicked out of hospital? Around half of NHS patients were discharged in short order, and very few were admitted to replace them. SAGE’s own analysis for the Government estimated that as many as 40% of the excess deaths during the epidemic were due to lockdown rather than Covid. Is such a strategy really ethically defensible? And Matt Hancock says that “focused protection” would put the vulnerable at risk! Why are hospitals still cancelling and delaying medical care?
Armed Police Shut Down Liverpool Gym

Talk about a hysterical overreaction! A gym in Liverpool received a visit from seven or eight armed police officers yesterday because it hadn’t closed, as all gyms in “Tier Three” areas are supposed to do. The Mail has more.
Armed police served a Liverpool gym owner with a £1,000 fine for refusing to shut despite strict Tier 3 lockdown rules.
Nick Whitcombe defied the newly-imposed lockdown rules and refused to close Bodytech Fitness in Moreton because they “won’t have one to come back to” if he did.
A member of the public noticed that the gym was still open for business and called the police who issued a warning instructing him to close.
A short while later, when he didn’t shut the premises, ‘seven or eight’ armed police officers turned up his gym, demanding that it close or face a fine.
Mr Whitcombe tells the story in more detail.
“After meeting with the police yesterday, they told us we would get a warning first day, then a second warning, £100 fine, £200 fine and so on.
“They were with us this morning, gave us our warning. Then came back this afternoon, orders from their top boss to issue a fine straight away.
“So, they’ve told us ‘close immediately’ or I’ll take a £1,000 fine.
“Obviously we still had quite a lot of members training and I said to the officers, ‘I’m not asking anyone to leave. Even if I am I’m going to let them finish their sessions first’.
“So they’ve issued the fine. First one’s £1,000. They can come back in three hours and issue £2,000. Three hours after that £4,000.
“It’s disappointing. They sent out seven or eight firearms officers, what a waste of resources.”
In an earlier video announcing his refusal to close the gym, Mr Whitcombe said: “We will not be closing our doors. We can’t.
“If we close our facility we won’t have one to come back to. We will not have a gym to come back to. There will be no business, there will be no gym, there will be no jobs.”
What were the police going to do if Mr Whitcombe refused to close? Shoot him and his customers in the head?
Postcard From Portugal

A reader who lives in Portugal has written to tell us of his sadness at what has become of his country. It sounds wearily familiar.
Like most of the rest of the world, Portugal had a lockdown period. In our case, it went from March 18th to May 4th. Also, like in many other countries, we were initially told it would be just two weeks to “flatten the curve”, which extended to six due to a delay in reporting cases and deaths which was perceived as a rise. In late April, a Portuguese researcher working in Norway called André Dias wrote an open letter to the President of the Republic (who is the Chief of State, while the Prime Minister is the Chief of Government), saying the lethality of Covid had been extremely exaggerated by Imperial College and that it would be safe to return to normal with no restrictions.
Nevertheless, after lockdown (which we prefer to call the “state of emergency”), we went into a “state of calamity” and the PM told us it would be impossible to return to the old normal without a vaccine. It is unconstitutional for the PM to mandate anything during the state of calamity, but he did so anyway. Specifically, while in some other countries, wearing masks only became mandatory several weeks or months after the lockdown ended, it’s been mandatory here in closed public spaces since the end of lockdown (though it wasn’t mandatory anywhere during lockdown). Also, the PM kept schools closed for the remainder of the 2019/2020 school year and opened more establishments every two weeks. Large parties became illegal, though a far-Leftist celebration called “festa do Avante” still took place in early September.
In the beginning of May, it was still considered a “civic duty” to stay at home. In mid-May, cases and deaths went down considerably, which put most people in high spirits. This would be short-lived, however, since they began testing asymptomatic people in late May. As you can imagine, we began having hundreds more “cases” (which, of course, are only positive tests), especially in Lisbon. Once again, there were people saying we had ended lockdown too soon, that the general public wasn’t following the rules and that new restrictions had to be introduced. We pretty much stopped talking about deaths and started talking about cases. In July, it became mandatory in the island of Madeira to wear masks even outdoors. However, at the time, the PM said we couldn’t afford a new lockdown. Moreover, we went from a state of calamity to the less serious “state of alert”. Nevertheless, it became forbidden to sell alcohol in certain establishments, and cafés (though not restaurants) had to close at 8pm. Also, in response to several illegal private parties, the Government began forbidding large gatherings more and more.
For the record, the Portuguese have a mixed relationship with masks. Half wear them outdoors and the other half don’t. I’ve seen shop owners removing their masks indoors while not attending customers. I believe it’s mandatory for kids after pre-school to wear masks indoors.
Personally, while I’m not afraid of masks, I hate wearing them, both because I can’t breathe very well with them on and because they’ve been the most persistent symbol of the “new normal”.
Now, we come to today, which is why I’m writing this. After a count of more than 2,000 daily “cases”, we have gone back to a state of calamity. Fines for breaking the rules are to become heavier than ever, gatherings can only be of five people instead of 10, masks are to become mandatory outdoors and the PM has proposed it should be mandatory for employees, students, etc. to install an app called StayawayCovid on their phones. Worse than anything, though, is that the PM has said it’s possible we will have a second lockdown after all, at least as a last resort. We haven’t closed any establishment but, as has happened elsewhere, medical consultations are now done mostly (though not yet exclusively) by phone, with cancer and cardiovascular patients pretty much abandoned for the sake of potential new Covid hospitalisations. Surgeries have been cancelled in some hospitals.
Predictably, no one tells us how many have so far died of cancer, cardiovascular diseases or suicide.
I was optimistic that the worst wouldn’t come to Portugal, but this latest bit of news has really dampened my spirits. I know of at least a journalist and a couple of doctors who write opinion pieces calling out the Government and public health authorities, but there’s no organised opposition as far as I know.
Finally, I appeal to the people reading this to resist what’s happening and do whatever they think will work. Personally, I’ve donated to Rocco Galati and Simon Dolan, both of whom are filing lawsuits against the Canadian and English governments respectively. My hope is that, if one or both are successful, it may send a message to other governments. I’ve also signed the Great Barrington Declaration.
Stop Press: Simon Dolan is in the High Court today. To date, people have donated over £360,000 to his CrowdJustice fundraiser.
Round-Up
- “Britain must not be sacrificed on the altar of fighting Covid-19” – Government pandemic adviser Professor Robert Dingwall sets out the sceptical argument in the Mail
- “Northern Ireland imposes four-week ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown” – Sky News report on the “four week” (do we believe that?) lockdown in NI that includes schools. More extreme than Starmer
- “Covid-19: The Data Exposing the Deception” – Iain Davis in UK Column discovers that figures from an FOI requests about public sector workers dying from Covid are at odds with official figures
- “Exam mess that’s a cruel blow to white working-class pupils” – Chris McGovern in Conservative Woman on the educational divide exacerbated by lockdown
- “The chaos in the UK SARS-CoV-2 testing system” – Hector Drummond looks at the problems of the PCR testing system
- “Fear of Death” – First episode in new Christian lockdown sceptic podcast Irreverend
- “Nursing Home Residents In Greeley Protest COVID-19 Restrictions” – CBSN Denver report on the feisty residents of a care home protesting their incarceration in their wheelchairs holding signs reading “Rather die from COVID than loneliness” and “Give us freedom”
- “Test and Trace has been a phenomenal waste of money” – Ross Clark in the Spectator
- “CDC: 85% of COVID-19 patients report ‘always’ or ‘often’ wearing a mask” – Jordan Schachtel reports on a neglected CDC study showing that the vast majority of Americans are using masks (really?) but no differences in infection rates are evident
- “Speech during the debate on the Public Health: Coronavirus Regulations, 13 October 2020” – Sir John Redwood MP challenges the Government on its Plan B should an effective vaccine continue to be elusive
- “The Covidian Cult” – CJ Hopkins in OffGuardian on the disturbingly totalitarian echoes of the global COVID-19 response
- “There is no good evidence for a circuit-breaker lockdown” – The latest from CEBM’s Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson in the Telegraph on the scandalous lack of good quality evidence for costly interventions and how we now have the chance to gather some
- “What would we gain from a circuit break?” – Ross Clark in the Speccie points out that SAGE envisage a two-week lockdown only buying us 28 days and asks what is so important for us to do in that time that we shouldn’t have been doing for the last six months
- “Boris must stand strong, take lockdown off the table and find another path” – Strong sceptical piece from Dan Wootton in the Sun
- “Wealthy supporters of a second national lockdown ignore the extreme hardship this would cause” – Christopher Snowdon in the Telegraph on the scourge of champagne lockdownism
- “French women in uproar as they’re forced to wear masks during LABOUR leaving them vomiting and unable to breathe – as doctors threaten to leave them to give birth alone if they refuse” – Truly shocking story in the Mail
- “If Boris Johnson gives in to the Covid-19 doomsters, we’ll end up like a banana republic with no bananas” – Good column from Stephen Glover in the Mail
- “We can’t beat coronavirus so we must learn how to live with it” – Rod Liddle finally joins the lockdown sceptics, in the Sun
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Three today: “Here we go again” by the Isley Brothers, “Herd Mentality” by Lex Rodent and – a tribute to Sunetra et al – “Declaration Of Hope” by Authenticity.
Love in the Time of Covid

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today we bring you the tearing down on Sunday by violent mostly peaceful protestors in Portland, Oregon of statues of former Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln in a declaration of “rage” toward Columbus Day. An unexpected voice of condemnation came from Sean Ono Lennon, John and Yoko’s son, who Monday took to Twitter to mock the protestors.
The 45 year-old musician, who has more than 300,000 followers on Twitter, wrote: “The Pyramids of Giza were made under coercion from evil Pharaohs who were not very woke. I think we can all agree the Pyramids should be torn down immediately.” And then: “Since the invasion of Britain by Emperor Julius Caesar in 55 B.C., Italy has remained deafeningly silent. I think it’s time Italy was held accountable.”
An unlikely hero, but we’ll take him.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.49 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last week and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it. If you Google it, the top hits you get are two smear pieces from the obscure Leftist conspiracy website Byline Times, and one from the Guardian headlined: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now shows up in the search results, although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. It’s now closing in on half-a-million signatures.
Stop Press: Toby has written about the shameless attempt to suppress and discredit the Declaration in his Spectator column this week.
Samaritans

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Boom!
Well done. Clap, clap.
bugger
Along the lines of what others have been talking about I see what has happened as the perfect storm of 5 key things that have finally led us to this point at least in the West (I know the conspiracy theorists will have a lightly different slant):- Comfort – We have everything we need now and have not had to fight for our freedom in our lifetimes so we no longer value it. We take it for granted. When the time has finally come to fight for it most people are too busy playing Candy Crush on their phones. Virtue Signalling – With the rise of social media virtue signalling has become the main source of kudos. With masks we can now apparently save peoples lives and show how much we care about others. It is not enough to just be selfless though, you have to show it. It then becomes a competition of who can make the most sacrifices and who cares about other people the most. Cancel Culture – Relating to the point before we now have a virtuous orthodoxy. If you stray from that orthodoxy you are vilified, discredited or cancelled (GBD as an example), so there is very little opportunity for reasoned… Read more »
+ Safetyism – life is safer than ever, and the more safety we have, the more we want. Also we’re insulated from death more and more – people live longer, die in hospital. We are able to shut death out rather than face it. The fear porn reminded everyone that death exists and they didn’t like it, so they want it abolished (note – only covid death need be abolished, as this is the only “new” thing) so they can get back to normal.
A good analysis.
There will be thousands of books written about the greatest mass hysteria and folly in history.
History is written by the winners
And we know who they will probably be.
We don’t know who they will be. I know it can be reassuring to decide that you know the outcome in advance, but we really do not know what’s going to happen in the future.
I try to cultivate not knowing what the outcome will and being ok about that. At least on my good days.
We can either fight this scuzzball Government & get rid of it or go Home and watch Eastenders or watch a fat orange heffer skate around on an ice rink
Us.
How about a bit of optimism and positivity?
You’re right. It will be the biggest academic factory ever.
To social media/internet, I would add that lockdown would have been almost immediately intolerable without them, for everyone. If people hadn’t even been able to catch up with their friends and family on Facebook and zoom calls, they wouldn’t have put up with it for more than a couple of weeks at the very most b
Not only intolerable but impossible.
Spot on analysis.
To add to the following:
Virtue signalling – social media has given each & every one a platform and it allows them to say things that they would otherwise not say to other people in their faces. Not to mention how they expose themselves on social media in a way that they don’t in real life. Certainly I’ll never look at certain people the same way again after reading their virtue signalling on social media.
Numerical illiteracy – add in economic illiteracy as well. Try pointing out the economic consequences of the lockdown and you’re shouted down with cliches such as “people before profit” or accusing you of not caring about others.
Please share 3.52pm
7 Armed Police Officer Attend Liverpool Gym To Fine Them £1000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpTrsqPNRaY
18% of hospitalisation figures are from people who tested positive after having already been in hospital for 7 or more days (as per Carl Heneghan last week.) Now from my experience you have to be pretty unwell to spend more than 7 days in hospital. So the question of the day is what percentage of the deaths come from this group? I would suspect a high majority. Can we get someone with an ounce of journalistic integrity/ability to ask this question? If not any whistle-blowers out there?
Listening to this at the moment.
The Fact-Free COVID Dystopia | Thomas E. Woods. Jr.
Great stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy3tP-BW5do&feature=youtu.be
Thanks, Biker, for posting it yesterday.
Thanks for reposting that. Will listen to it later.
He made a memorable speech back in July – https://youtu.be/6RDffMCAujg.
Just finished watching that myself. Excellent, and I even found myself clapping at the end, sitting here on my own. Thanks Biker.
Thing is though, to me this is all blatantly obvious. Done and dusted, ages ago. Why are we still having this debate? Surely we should have moved on from here long, long ago?
But we haven’t, and it bothers me why. The answer can only be that an awful lot of people don’t want to move on. They’re just fine with things as they are.
Sherelle Jacobs laments in The Telegraph today that the lockdown sceptics – including the Great Barrington Declaration – have, thus far, lost the argument, that our logic has failed to find any traction, and that we must sharpen our response in future, especially on the emotive sides of the argument.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/15/lockdown-sceptics-world-must-unite-new-manifesto/
But I don’t think any amount of logical argument will convince the perpetrators of this crime, or their pliable, docile adherents. The only thing that is going to stop this is economic collapse, or at least immediate prospect of the abyss.
Off to pick up my daughter from school now. I’ll be the only unmuzzled parent. Fuck it.
Fabulous speech!
5th
Balls. I just missed it even though I kept refreshing.
You’re trying too hard. You’ll only get the first post in if you abandon your desire to get the first post in.
Yep, the ‘lust for result’ fucks up every human endeavour. 🙂
Devoured ’em both in my youth so they must have influenced me… (I was actually trying to channel my inner Yoda).
I spare you 30 blows …
Crowley, talking about magical operations.
“a visit from seven or eight armed police officers”
I supposed I’m meant to be terrified by these armed police, but I’m simply laughing at them. Their weapons are empty threats, as empty as the skull of the person who ordered their deployment. Pathetic beyond measure.
If you don’t find it terrifying I would like to know why. Is this where we’re now at as a country, where armed police stop legitimate businesses from operating? A country where the Covid Gestapo and the new Covid Police Force pounce to whip you into complying with the latest government diktat, no matter how insane or unscientific, and created at the stroke of a pen with no democratic oversight?
If you’re not terrified then you damn well should be. We are heading into a very dark place – in fact we’ve already travelled pretty far down the dystopian tunnel already.
I’m not terrified of those armed police because their guns are all for show. What are those weapons for? They will not use them. It’s the ultimate in empty attempts at coercion. So the weapons are simply to frighten us. And if we refuse to be frightened, their tactic has already failed.
My first questions to those armed cops would be – “What are these guns for? Are you going to shoot me if I don’t comply? Well – I don’t comply. Go ahead and shoot me.” They won’t.
The fact that armed police are sent to shut down a gym, peacefully protesting doesn’t terrify me. It infuriates me. I’m beyond being scared at this point.
Peaceful protest – stubborn British resistance – just like that gym owner and staff and clients are doing, that’s how we beat these bastards. And we can beat them. And them waving their pathetic weapons around won’t make any difference.
I agree with your argument. I will counter with the fact that I am human and it would terrify me. That’s what it’s designed to do of course.
It’s all very well me typing with bravado here – but I’ll let you now what happens if and when an armed copper confronts me for breaking one of the countless mandates (the rate we’re going, it’s going to be an inevitability). I’m hoping I will live up to my principles!
A read of this might help:
https://theconversation.com/heres-when-british-police-are-legally-allowed-to-shoot-under-a-new-policy-on-lethal-force-76666
Our Police are not as trigger happy as American officers fortunately
Yet!
Your definition of human requires an upgrade.
I’m American. We’ve had armed police my whole life. One thing that experience teaches you is that the police are not your friends.
After several decades of living the UK, I was lulled into complacency by the fact that British police are largely unarmed.
Arming police changes the relationship dramatically. What is it you all say? “Policing by consent”. Now the nature of the new relationship has been laid bare, just like as it is in America. They now police with the threat of force.
BTW, I’m not one of the “defund the police” types. That’s all relatively new and as someone in her 60s who’s lived in the UK for decades, outside of my range of experience.
It’s rational to be afraid of police in that situation. Doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t stand up for what’s right, just be cautious.
I think it depends how used to guns you are. Shame they didn’t stick with revolvers, because you can see whether a revolver is loaded or not. And if loaded, what with.
You asked about the Liverpool protest: Saturday 17th October, 1pm, St George’s Hall
Thanks Nick.
👍
It’s not even so much that they turned up with guns. Drawing of the weapons from the armoury had to be authorised at a senior level. I would be more interested in seeing the evidence presented to the senior officer that the threat was elevated to justify issuing weapons.
And here is the guidance from the College of Policing for the deployment of Authroised Firearms Officers:
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/armed-policing/use-of-force-firearms-and-less-lethal-weapons/deployment-of-afos/
Yes, excellent point. Maybe this a mission for Awkward Git, who seems to excel at this sort of task…
Fury is a much more appropriate reaction than contempt.
I reckon there’s a difference between being terrified of the guns, and being terrified of what this country has become – of which they are a symbol.
Thank you, Rick – exactly right.
It is terrifying, but laughing is the best way to cope. I have been on the Facebook page of Merseyside police and they are not getting messages of support. Plod say they were unarmed but this is at odds with evidence. In any event, why send that many around at three hourly intervals to ratchet up the fines? Maybe they are trying to turn Liverpool into Melbourne, but we must resist (even if that means posting critical comments on police social media pages, donating to Lockdown sceptics or the gym owner’s gofundme page. https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-liverpool-gyms?utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all
They went in heavy to set an example and a deterrent. Hopefully their actions will have increased the determination to resist.
Not quite sure what Merseyside Police were expecting to find there. Arya Stark in a bad mood perhaps?
Been watching too many Rambo movies, expecting a mob of heavies with Kalashnikovs.
Tish Lili. Fear is failure.
Acknowledging a reality does not mean we should let it frighten us.
Fear is natural, not a failure. Being able to overcome fear is strength. We need to be strong.
Failure is what our adversaries excel at.
Hmm, fight or flight is natural. Caution/realism re potential dangers is sensible. Not sure about fear itself.
One phonecall from a bloody snitch and the terror brigade is out in full force!
What has Jabba the Android unleashed on the people he’s supposed to represent?!
Hopefully people are not too terrified to donate to his legal fund. Up to £35,000. Was £25,000 when I checked this morning.
Chip in a fiver. We need to support people with the guts to do this.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-liverpool-gyms/
Yep, done. Thanks for sharing.
the Police will never regain the trust of the Public again what they should be doing is arresting the fat thing in Downing Street His eton Mess of a Government, the 600 gurning dildo’s in Parliament give Khan and Dick a p45 each
Japan
Population 126 million
Deaths 1600
Explain
Didn’t put Covid patients in care homes. Short voluntary lockdown. Cases have risen since then but Government doesn’t really care. Not because all Japanese people wear masks 24/7
However, their fragile economy has taken a large hit.
Voluntary lockdown is an oxymoron. Presumably what you mean is they had no lockdown but they had some voluntary social distancing, like Sweden.
You do know Japan has not let their own citizens home, let alone travelers from abroad, since March? They have had a lockdown and continue to be extremely cautious. My son’s trip of a lifetime was cancelled in June.
The internal lockdown was voluntary, but travelling restrictions remain. They have started to loosen these restrictions as of the end of September
Japan closed its borders even to its own citizens? Do you have a cite for that?
They’ve reopened now, so it’s hard to find retrospective references. but this guy was in Peru for a reason – he couldn’t go home! Current restrictions are less onerous
Could also be enhanced memory T cell immunity due to previous exposure to SARS.
Interesting question.
No lockdown either, plus very crowded public transport.
So possibly high levels of innate immunity in Japanese people or some genetic difference or a less virulent strain of the virus in Japan.
Do they not also have lower rates of obesity and associated conditions?
That’s correct.
Obesity is the comorbidity more strongly associated for Covid-19 in Mexico.
Beware the Covichilli and the Coronatortilla. Not to mention the Viral Enchilada..
Japan actually fines employers for every employee with a waistline bigger than 34 inches.
Wow, The NHS would go bankrupt!
There’s a suggestion the orientals have acquired some immunity from the Sars and Mers outbreaks.
IIRC speaking is banned on Japanese public transport, plus of course masks were normal on public transport there (as in other East Asian countries) even pre-Covid.
What’s it to do with masks?
‘The BCG vaccine coverage in 1999–2002, 2004, and 2012 in five prefectures with no COVID-19 infections was significantly higher than that in five prefectures with a high prevalence of infections.’ Our findings suggest that routine infant BCG vaccination coverage in young generation had a significant impact on prevention of local COVID-19 spread in Japan. https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)30547-8/fulltext ‘Access to the second floor, where residents live, is very closely controlled, with even close family members excluded — except in cases where a patient is near death, when one or two close relatives are allowed to visit. “Because we work in this type of facility every day, we are always aware of the risks of norovirus or influenza, and we became conscious of the impact of coronavirus pretty early on,” said chief caregiver Chihiro Kasuya, speaking in mid-March, when a Washington Post team visited the center. “The very basic principle of elderly care is washing your hands at each step of your work: Take care of someone, wash your hands, do another job, wash your hands. But now it is even more thorough.” Perhaps surprisingly, staffers don’t usually wear face masks. It makes it harder to communicate with elderly patients who may be suffering… Read more »
I would like to know how some of the Asian countries, including Japan, classify Covid-19 deaths. It has been reported that Singapore adheres to the WHO case definition of a Covid-19 death, which requires that the cause of death be clinically relevant to the virus. This explains, at least in part, why Singapore has such a low death toll. Japan might be doing the same thing.
Zealots will say “culture is different” because they’re big on personal space and familiar rubbish about they “took it seriously” and had a “voluntary lockdown”. Plus closed borders and masks.
Perhaps the Japanese doctors didn’t lie when they completed death certificates.
A lot will be to do with distancing and high standards of personal hygiene. These are the only two “interventions” I’ve supported throughout the shitshow here.
They didn’t inflate the figures.
Covid only affects tall people. See also, chiildren and people sitting down in restaurants.
Seriouly would be interesting to know for sure, I expect probably all of the factors mentioned and possibly more. High omega 3 from fish, low omega 6? Do they eat much wheat?
A plea from me to help restart African Tourism: WHAT? African countries have been opening their borders since the start of September. We are calling for your help to put pressure on Foreign Commonwealth & Development Office and Public Health England to apply the same foreign office travel metrics to African countries that are applied for the rest of the world. This will lead to air bridges being created to countries that you can travel safely to in times of Covid. Africa has some of the lowest Covid numbers in the world and yet the FCDO is advising against all travel to Africa. WHY? Humanitarian – The African continent relies heavily on international travel for £130bn income and 25m jobs. Each African travel job typically supports 8 – 10 dependents, helping to support up to 250m people Wildlife – More eyes on the ground in Africa reduces poaching of rhino, elephant and pangolin and subsistence killing of animals for bush meat. Jobs – Help protect UK and Africa jobs across tour operators, travel agents, tourist board, airlines, marketing & PR companies and related support industries SIGN The petition HERE SHARE THIS INITIATIVE with your clients, family and friends. Add the petition link to your Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn EMAIL Your Local MP. CLICK… Read more »
Fabulous idea. I’d go anywhere now where my travel insurance was still valid and where there was a zero chance of cancellation/quarantine/masks/testing/anti-social distancing.
*Not that Africa is anywhere! I’ve been to Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Gambia, Senegal, Ghana, Kenya (and Angola and Nigeria for business) and always had a wonderful time. Kilimanjaro and South Africa still on bucket list!
Travel insurance is available now even if against FCO advice. Not prohibitively expensive either.
Still got my SA game lodge trip booked for January. I really hope to get there. Signed.
Sounds good. Are BA still respecting mask exemptions on board ?
Done – tweeted and shared. I’m going to Kenya in March.
Hey all, you’ll like this. I just registered coronapedia.org.uk so that I can create an unbiased, fact-checked information resource. The domain registrar (Nominet, UK-based) was happy to take my money, but then they sent me this: “Notification of suspension of your domain coronapedia.org.uk Your registration has failed our registration checks and we have therefore suspended the registration. This means that your domain name will remain registered to you but that it will not work as an internet address until you have contacted us and we agree that it should be activated.” Charming. Absolutely no conspiracy here. Nothing to see, move on. I have politely requested that the domain be reactivated: “Dear Nominet I would like to formally request the activation of the domain that I have just registered, coronapedia.org.uk. My intention in registering this domain is to create a source of fact-checked information relating to SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, and the UK’s response to the situation. I picked the specific name “coronapedia” because this is to be an encyclopedia based on the coronavirus. I picked “.org” because this is not a commercial enterprise, and I picked “.uk” because the information relates directly to the situation in the United Kingdom. I am deeply… Read more »
Would ISPs in non western countries – like Russia – be more willing to host such a domain name?
I did think about registering coronapedia.se (Sweden), but I fails my transparency test because it’s not Sweden related.
I’m in the process of trying to cancel the registration. If they’ve done this to me once, they can easily do it again once the site gains traction.
Iceland has a good rep for ignoring nwo diktats re websites.
Hosting and registration are two separate things. Mabel Cow can’t even get it past the registration stage.
FYI, “whois” reports the suspension is “Nominet was able to match the registrant’s name and address against a 3rd party data source on 15-Oct-2020”. Although they say the found address, maybe they meant “was not able” or something.
In response to my request for activation, Nominet replied with this: “Due to the unprecedented levels of domain name abuse we are seeing, application for new .uk domain names which contain certain terms (such as ‘covid’ or ‘corona’) are not being accepted or activated until we can identify who is behind the registration and what their intentions are. For this reason we are asking people to prove who they are, by providing identification, and also a “selfie” picture to show that the ID documents are not stolen or faked. We genuinely do appreciate that this can come across as overly intrusive, but we believe that it is necessary to help ensure that the .UK zone is as safe a place as it can be. We are deleting the ID documents provided to us, and it is not being shared with any third party, or used for any other purpose.” To which I replied: “I am not comfortable providing the requested information. Please could Nominet cancel my registration and refund my money.” I’ll just pick a domain with another registrar. I rather suspect that Nominet will just ban me later if I stick with a UK domain. I find it appalling that… Read more »
To play devil’s advocate, I guess someone could setup a pro-lockdown site and register it to Toby or whoever with enough of his details. All very murky.
Fair point, Kf99.
I registered the domain through Amazon Web Service’s Route 53 service using a legit AWS account that I have had for a few years now.
I provided my real name and full contact details to Amazon, as I have done for the other domains that I have registered.
This is the first time I have experienced any kind of issue with registering a domain, and they clearly state that the reason for the special treatment is because of the word “corona” in the domain name.
To say that they will be evaluating my “intentions” and then to request a “selfie” is outrageous. What’s next, a nasal swab so that they can forcibly isolate me?
Still no word on a refund yet, either. I’ll give it a few hours and then just flush it. A cheap lesson in how Nominet have been bought along with everyone else.
Bah. Not a good start to the day.
Coronationpedia. It’s about the queen. That presumably wouldn’t be accepted either.
Hi Mabel Cow, don’t forget the site Evidence Not Fear, they’re already doing this and perhaps would welcome another person to help them
Tiers 1,2, or 99; I will carry on as normal until I am physically stopped by our friendly neighbourhood police.
Ditto. I’ve crossed borders, mainly county borders, but between Wales and England also, every day since this present foolishness began last week. Or was it the week before?
Welsh first minister promises extra patrols for hotspot travel ban
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54552760
I wouldn’t worry though – the word ‘promises’ from a politician probably means it’s never going to happen.
I travelled from Wales to Scotland when both places had a 5-mile travel restriction – no checks.
Obviously, it’s not sensible (or possible) to police the Welsh/English border – so many people live one side and work the other.
Ditto.
The lockdown has already caused an immense amount of economic and social damage, which we know will take years to repair. But if we are to avoid the very real prospect of total collapse, Boris needs to get tough. He could begin by sacking Hancock, a man who has shown himself to be a clown and an ignoramus – and who in any case is far to the left of most conservatives. More than anything, he needs to sideline SAGE, some of whose members are blatantly political and briefing against the government. And on that point, let me say to those people who talk about the WEF and the great reset: yes, I believe there is more than an element of truth in this. I’ve no doubt some influential members of SAGE would happily destroy the economy to usher in the new world order. Many Conservative MPs know what is going on, as is clear from Camilla Tominey’s piece in yesterday’s Telegraph. It is up to those MPs to pressure Boris into taking decisive action towards following the Swedish strategy. There will be a furious reaction from the public sector elite and the MSM, but Boris would do well to follow the advice offered to him by… Read more »
The Prime Minister is fully on board with the World Economic Forum’s ‘Great Reset’ to a Technocratic Fascism. It is no use at all to imagine that he is simply misled. See his speech to the UN last year. See also Hancock’s speech from 2017 sharing a platform with Klaus Schwartz of the WEF extolling the joys of the 4th Industrial Revolution. Transcripts are available on the Government website. These people are our enemies, to be despised, not appealed to.
Yes it is amazing that people think that poor old Boris is being led astray by naughty ministers and SAGE. Boris is up to his eyeballs in New World Orderliness and is best mates with Bill Gates . The idiot Hancock is only there to take the flak that should have been aimed at Führer Boris.
And Klaus Schwab as well.
I don’t dispute what you say about Hancock, but a Brexiteer is hardly like to support the WEF or any attempt to create a world government. The problem with Boris is that he is scientifically illiterate and a bungler to boot. In his case, at least, I think the cock-up theory is more convincing than the conspiracy theory.
I also believe the cock up theory is truer but what i can’t stomach is the forgiving of Johnson .As a lesson to future generations he must never be allowed near power again .
You don’t really believe that DePiffle is a Brexiteer do you? He blows with whatever wind suits his cause. If Remain had been an election winner, he’d be strongly pro-Remain!
“ SAGE, some of whose members are blatantly political and briefing against the government.”
So – they’re actually doing something right?? 🙂
No – put the blame right where it belongs : in Mr Toad’s lap.
He’s the man in charge, the man with the can.
Yes, briefing against the government for not imposing stricter lockdown measures – obviously!
Yes Hancock needs to go but so does Johnson .Why are you trying to rehabilitate this useless gutless cowardly piece of shit .Are we supposed to just forgive someone who has locked people down for the last eight months like some third world dictator .
both need a Rope with a trap door underneath them
Well, I’m not trying to rehabilitate Boris, but my reading of the situation is that people like Witless and Van-tam have got him by the short and curlies. He might yet redeem himself by ignoring SAGE altogether and listening to the advice of people like Carl Heneghan. There’s no denying, though, that so far he has shown himself to be the wrong man at the wrong hour.
He’s been perfect – just not for the economy and the UK public.
I’ve had an idea. Since the three bellends are not fans of evidence-based analysis, why don’t we commission a statistical modeller to create a model for them. I would like to see a model for a coronovirus-like contagion, loaded with the known parameters to match this virus. However the target of the modelling should actually be what happens when a quarter of a million people (and growing) are tested using a PCR test with 1.3% false positive rate, at the precedence rates of real virus that the model actually predicts. This model could give us a prediction of: – What percentage of positive results are likely to be false. – The proportion of hospital patients (both admissions and deaths) predicted to be wrongly attributed to the virus. – The long term trajectory of the manufactured epidemic. I anticipate it to never end. – A time series comparing the real virus prevalence compared to the fake virus. – The effects of a successful “moonshot” (I hate that term so much). – A ton of other analysis that would show this shit show up for what it is. It would be delicious irony if professor pants-down’s own model could be bodged (even… Read more »
A mathematician did exactly this on Twitter….looks a lot like our current situation. I don’t have a link and don’t know how easy it is to search for…
The ONS survery analysis factors in the FP and FN rates into the analysis when projecting prevalence using Bayesian statistics. Sadly it’s indicated a large rise since September in SARS-COV2 positive rates across the age groups.
Dolan in court – updates will be posted here
https://twitter.com/BritainFree/status/1316664715058335744
Good luck Simon and Co. If ever this country needed a hero urgently you’re it!
The WHO view that you can eliminate diseases in this way is no better than SAGE – there must be hundreds or thousands of viruses circulating which they are not trying to eliminate , and unfortunately Prof Gupta is wrong too with the example of measles. I wrote on her blog Unherd blog yesterday:
”I have great respect for Prof Gupta but I believe she is over-optimistic about measles vaccination. People over 55 or so will have full herd immunity having caught the disease but the effects from the vaccine wears off, destroys maternal antibodies (which puts infants more at risk) and there is a substantial literature on this from keen proponents of the programme. You can argue that the benefits outweigh the risks, which may or may not be the case – there may be a great risk if great swathes of young and middle-aged adults do not have immunity – but I do not think the matter is straightforward.”
I have collected 25 peer review papers going back to 1987 all indicating that the vaccine is failing.
I am fully vaccinated, as is my wife. My 2 children are fully vaccinated also. But, this whole debacle over a CONvid vaccine, then pushing the widely known, minimally effective, flu vaccine has my head in a spin. I don’t have the sources but I have recently seen that the MMR vaccine has been causing vaccine induced measles, and the oral polio vaccine, pushed by Belinda Gates, has caused all sorts of problems in kids in India. RFK Jr openly advocates for more Pharma scrutiny over vaccines, especially that they are never liable for vaccine damages and that these damage payments are, ultimately, tax payer funded. Now the WHO and Ministers in our own Government are issuing statements that herd immunity is impossible or does not exist. Does this not go against all that we apparently know about viruses, vaccines and herd immunity? I know they are playing with us but where does this lead? Is the whole Pharma industry just one big racket with some great PR to tell us we all need them and their products? The money involved and the lack of liability to damages tells me the whole industry stinks. Like I said, my heads in… Read more »
There has been a great failure of candour about the limitations and safety of vaccines. It does not help that the Prime Minister indulges in talk about “antivaxxers” (I think the first mainstream British politician to do so). Even the professionals delude themselves, while the government and social media platforms clamp down on even discussing scientific publications, patient information leaflets, government data etc). In the UK we still have the right to fully informed consent not specific to but not excluding vaccination (Montgomery ruling 2015, GMC new guidelines October 2020) and we have the recent Cumberlege report warning of the dangers of gaslighting patients injured by medical interventions.
You have highlighted something very important : the consequences of a forced breakdown in trust.
I have little doubt that vaccination has a significant place in disease control. I have held that view ever since the MMR controversy originally cropped up. I also know that it’s role as a force in general public health has been exaggerated, and that information about serious incidents has been suppressed.
I also know that there are inherent dangers; that some vaccines have had serious side-effects for certain populations; that Big Pharma is no more to be taken at face value than the Tobacco industry or any other profit-making organisation.
So – I’m not an ‘Anti-Vaxxer’.
But I do believe in openness and due caution, such that I would expect in approaching any treatment. So, what would I do if offered a vaccine that came out of the following background :
Indeed – I wouldn’t touch the product with a barge pole.
I also see that there are a few of the MHRA board members with shares in vaccine manufacturers…..
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/923909/2020-21__Declarations_of_Interest_Board_members__v011020.pdf
And there is Prof Pollard chair of Joint Committee on Vaccination which recommend vaccines to the schedule who is lead developer of the Oxford Vaccine, as well as adviser to the MHRA.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/05/a-letter-to-my-member-of-parliament-.html
Bolotin et al. What is the evidence to support a correlate of protection for measles? A systematic review. J Infect Dis 2020;221:1576–83 Cherry, J. D., & Zahn, M. (2018). Clinical Characteristics of Measles in Previously Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Patients in California. Clinical Infectious Diseases: An Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America, 67(9), 1315–1319. https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciy286 Fiebelkorn, A. P., Coleman, L. A., Belongia, E. A., Freeman, S. K., York, D., Bi, D., … Beeler, J. (2016). Measles Virus Neutralizing Antibody Response, Cell-Mediated Immunity, and Immunoglobulin G Antibody Avidity Before and After Receipt of a Third Dose of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine in Young Adults. The Journal of Infectious Diseases, 213(7), 1115–1123. https://doi.org/10.1093/infdis/jiv555 Gibney, K. B., Attwood, L. O., Nicholson, S., Tran, T., Druce, J., Healy, J., … Cross, G. B. (2019). Emergence of attenuated measles illness among IgG positive/IgM negative measles cases, Victoria, Australia 2008-2017. Clinical Infectious Diseases: An Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciz363 [Heffernan J.M., & Keeling M.J. (2009). Implications of vaccination and waning immunity. Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, 276(1664), 2071–2080. https://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2009.0057 Kang, H. J., Han, Y. W., Kim, S. J., Kim, Y.-J., Kim, A.-R., Kim, J. A.,… Read more »
Crickey! That’s a lot to get through. Thanks though. I have seen some of the Stanley A Plotkin video on YouTube – sinister does not seem to cover it. Like I said yesterday….what in the actual fu*k!!!
Hangcock can’t read big words. Could you put all the info from these references in really really short little words that he can understand?
Vaccines are a highly fallible answer to Public Health problems, and even the effectiveness profile of the measles vaccination is crumbling, which leading health officials silently know.
Gregory A. Poland and Robert M. Jacobson, ‘The Re-Emergence of Measles in Developed Countries: Time to Develop the Next-Generation Measles Vaccines?’, Vaccine. 2012 Jan 5; 30(2): 103–104., https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/ Rosen JB, Rota JS, Hickman CJ, Sowers SB, Mercader S, Rota PA, Bellini WJ, Huang AJ, Doll MK, Zucker JR, Zimmerman CM., ‘Outbreak of measles among persons with prior evidence of immunity, New York City, 2011’, Clin Infect Dis. 2014 May;58(9):1205-10. doi: 10.1093/cid/ciu105. Epub 2014 Feb 27 Felicia Roy, Lillian Mendoza, Joanne Hiebert, Rebecca J. McNall, Bettina Bankamp, Sarah Connolly, Amy Lüdde, Nicole Friedrich, Annette Mankertz, Paul A. Rota, Alberto Severini , ‘Rapid Identification of Measles Virus Vaccine Genotype by Real-Time PCR’ https://jcm.asm.org/content/55/3/735 “Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences (RJ McNall, unpublished data)”. Waaijenborg S., Hahné S.J.M., Mollema L., Smits G.P., Berbers G.A.M., van der Klis F.R.M., de Melker H.E., and Wallinga J., ‘Waning of Maternal Antibodies Against Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Varicella in Communities With Contrasting Vaccination Coverage’, J Infect Dis. 2013 Jul 1; 208(1): 10–16 Zhao et al, ‘Low titers of measles antibody in mothers whose infants suffered from measles before eligible age for measles vaccination’ Virol… Read more »
What do you think about the whole Stefan Lanka challenge that Measles has not been proven to exist? There is a whole court case saga which, in the end, sided with Stefan Lanka in that there is not suitable evidence to prove its existence? My take on it is that he doesn’t necessarily think it doesn’t exist, but that it has not been proven to exist?
I think it exists!
It does, but it’s hard to spot.
In TCM, measles is believed to be a way the child releases the toxins acquired from the mother during gestation.
Always made sense to me.
He claims the measles virus doesn’t extist – not measles the ilnness.
Ah, got it. He’s pretty well qualified in the area as well, so his credentials don’t make him a quack – although he his highly portrayed as such. It’s just another story, within the many stories, that make me question the whole system.
I have now posted all these studies under Prof Gupta’s blog on Unherd.
https://unherd.com/2020/10/matt-hancock-is-wrong-about-herd-immunity/
The overall point is that the wider public health picture is hopelessly unsound. You couldn’t say that measles is controllable as an example. We have names like Plotkin, Markowitz, Poland, Orenstein on this list and they know that it isn’t.
This government must be brought to stand trial for Crimes against Humanity. I could weep for our elderly in care homes. They are human beings FGS!
This is one reason I have fingers crossed for Dolan’s case. He wins, the floodgates open.
I agree. I am very worried though that the fix is in.
See my comment about a solution – I think they should all be locked in care homes, under exactly the same conditions as current residents are.
The +test numbers are false, which means the hospitalisations are false, which means the deaths are false.
Until they stop fudging the testing so that it deliberately returns high positive counts, then everything else is inaccurate and we’re stuck in this cycle of doom. No one prominent enough in the media is pushing them on this, and those that aren’t that prominent have so many fires in this mess they’re trying to battle it all just blends into one big rant.
That’s why as per my comment above I think we should turn their own weapons against them and get an expert to create a statistical model to compute the false positives over time, culminating in “moonshot”.
The +test numbers are false, which means the hospitalisations are false, which means the deaths are false.
The hospital cases have symptoms (or at least 80% do). They are genuine.
This issue is a bit of a red herring. The trend in hospital cases is increasing. Whether the true number is. say, 4k rather than 5k is irrelevant. In a couple of days it will be 5k at the current rate.
Can you tell us where the data is reporting symptoms aligned with positive tests in hospital, please?
And before admission, I suppose- both being relevant
“The hospital cases have symptoms”
For what???
That is the point (see the item coming from inside the NHS today).
‘Covid’ numbers are fiction, as anyone with a brain and basic numeracy and literacy can see. Should any doubt remain, I think I prefer a bit of analysis to wishing on a star :
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/probable-healthcare-associated-infections-in-england/
Covid is largely a nosocomial infection, with figures also inflated by PCR testing.
Here is the news :
Current mortality is around the minimum for a quarter of a century.
… and life is shut down for this???
My understanding from the government data website is that figures are for anyone with a positive test, either before or after admission, regardless of what they were admitted for. From what I heave heard, they are testing EVERYONE being admitted for whatever reason (my colleague’s two year old was tested because she SHUT HER FINGER IN A DOOR). So the number of people in hospital “with covid” is a function of overall hospital admissions, the general prevalence of the virus in the country, and the proportion of false positives. An upward trend would merely reflect an upward trend in prevalence in the wider country, so would be fairly meaningless.
A more meaningful figure would be those in hospital with covid symptoms and a positive test who require critical care, and to compare this with the same figures since March. I doubt any such data exists because the government has no interest in gathering meaningful data about this disease.
Simply not true, anyone with a positive test on admission or after admission or after 2 weeks counts, regardless of what you’re in for. Given the sheer numbers if tests (all patients) it’s simply statistical fact you’ll be getting a load of false positives and old positives as well as asymptomatic accurate results… It’s a complete lie to say 80% because they don’t report that. Those admitted to ICU in actual need of breathing assistance and showing real signs of covid is a more accurate representation of the scale of issue – in that it’s tiny. And even as those numbers go up, it does not justify measures against the healthy population in any way whatsoever.
The first article from the care home whistleblower made me cry.
My husband has just been able to make an appointment to see his mother for the first time since February! That’s if the county isn’t locked down again!
I stopped reading it to avoid that outcome.
It’s sadly true , my gran was in a care home and wasted away as she couldn’t understand why we couldn’t go and see her every week like normal. The care home only let us in when she was at end of life care.
She just gave up in the end and stopped eating and her mental health had deteriorated that much she was delusional
She told my mum that she was pretending so that she could see her great grandchildren. Sadly despite me arguing with them to let at least one of them in to say goodbye , they wouldn’t let them in , just stating that it was the governments rules every time.
She sadly passed away in August. I’m convinced that lockdown killed her as if it was normal life she would be here right now
I’d call that murder.I would.
Sadist Khan really shouldn’t be able to put London into Tier 2 Lockdown without at least publishing some meaningful data on why. His press release was all thoughts and feelings, fuck all analysis.
Sadiq Khan is a greater danger to London than the virus. Live on the very edge of Central London and neither we or anyone in our wide circle of family and friends knows anyone with the virus. Central London almost dead and closed shops and restaurants everywhere, yet this buffoon complains London is dying and then wants to close down London even more.
He wants it to die but then get a huge cash injection so he can re-model it in his political image. I hate to make this a Left-Right thing (we need to be unified on the abuse of civil liberties), but in this case…
Yep I live right next to Kings College Hospital so every time we go out we’re bombarded by it, I’ve been twice to A&E during the pandemic and both times it was a ghost town apart from the usual drunks and druggies drying out in the police watched bays. Haven’t looked into regional data for London boroughs but I don’t care for the lies printed out by the govt. and have given up on them
There’s actually no rhyme or reason for putting London into Tier 2 lockdown. I live in zone 4 but work in Central London and all the time I’m going there, its virtually a ghost town. Even UCL Hospital barely has anyone in it. If this was a genuine pandemic then the roads leading to UCL would have been blocked by ambulances and medical staff rushed off their feet but I’ve not seen or heard anything of the sort.
Sadiq Khan doesn’t care about London. He’s done bugger all for housing, transport and especially crime. Now he just wants to destroy the capital.
Louise is on Save our Rights UK facebook page explaining how the government moved all the goalposts on Dolan’s case yesterday. She says they’ve pulled the rug out from under the lawyer’s feet.
https://www.facebook.com/SaveOurRightsUK/
Covert Intelligence Bill is being debated at the same time. She says the amendments are very good news. Wonder if any of it will make the headlines!
Who has pulled the rug on who?
Simon hasn’t tweeted anything in his updates.
I think tweeting from the court room is almost certainly frowned upon!
Has Boris woken up a bit?
He is sticking to the tiering system, standing up for ‘balance’ (not Vallance!), describing circuit-breakers as ‘misery’, rejecting SAGE advice etc. Apparently Carl Heneghan really got to him (in a good way) in a meeting in September.
Yes this is a million miles from the ‘let-it-rip-but-let-people-shield’ that most of us want, but it may be a start…if so, I’ll take it.
He will cave in next week. Don’t get your hopes up
More than likely. Though there is mounting pressure from his own backbenchers. I don’t know whether he would fear being unseated by his own party (I think he should) or if indeed he would really care.
I doubt any of the spineless traitors would ever try and unseat him. They’d be too scared of getting “suicided” (another covid 19 death…)
(“80 MPs die in grouse shooting accident” or something)
Or beer went out of date, soured and caused mass food poisoning after 10pm curfew (which they broke).
if they got rid of Thatcher in 1990 then why not that fat moron Johnson and Thatcher was far more formidable than He will ever be
Well he’s certainly not having as much fun being PM as he thought he would. All those people who said he was lazy, selfish and doesn’t do detail were right. I’m ashamed to say I didn’t believe them. Still, I won’t forgive Boris or my MP ( the Home Secretary) ever.
I think he’s really enjoying it – making the oiks suffer. Less useless eaters in the world is good.
He just has to act like he actually cares.
He used to just smash up the odd restaurant, now he’s smashing up the entire hospitality industry…
‘let it rip’ is Handoncock nonsense. A more accurate phrase would be ‘let it seep’.
Yes the word ‘rip’ terrifies the ignorant and the ‘kind’.
‘Let it take its course’ perhaps better…
Have you not followed the apparent disagreement / changes of mind / disagreeing voices pantomime since March ?
He and Smarmer are playing tag-team. Smarmer is the bad cop so Bozo appears the good cop. Hence when he “very reluctantly” announces English tier 3/Circuit breaker/whatever they want to call Lockdown II, it’s everyone’s fault but his.
the spitting image versions of Doris and walk off a pier Starmer would do a better job than the real things
Can someone post the link to the crowd funding page for the Liverpool gym owner please.
https://gf.me/u/y4qd66
Thanks Paul. 😊
https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-liverpool-gyms
Looking pretty healthy atm.
Thanks Mark. 😊
Lots of important issues to discuss here today but first I have to pull myself together after watching that video that’s the hardest I’ve laughed for months tears rolling lol it shows the absurdity of it all to a tee
So funny and really brightened my mood.
Just watched it, such a belly laugh!
Even the dogs were leaping around the room with joy. They know a good laugh when they hear one.
Twits on that horrid show This Morning telling a mother on the phone not to break ‘rules’ and not allow her 4 year old son so hug his Grandmother in the street who they see often because she loves 5 doors down from them!! Thing is, the Grandmother wants to break the rules and hug her grandson! What the actual f**k is this world coming to!!!!!!!
I wouldn’t tell a granny what to do under any circumstances – if she wants to hug her grandchild just try and stop her!!!!!!
Where do these patronising and insulting attitudes towards our most senior fellow humans come from? Surely it wasn’t always this way? It is ridiculous and deeply selfish to infantilise people in this way.
Agenda for at least 20-30 years. Homer Simpson (adult male) = best example.
I didn’t see it but I wonder why she is asking permission or soliciting approval in the first place…if you don’t think for yourself you deserve to suffer. Sorry to be so harsh but this is how Nazi Germany started.
Goodwin’s law has been cancelled, it’s OK to make these comparisons now.
Typical brain rotting, stomach churning drivel dished out day to day on daytime television whatever station it’s on.
Not to mention Philip Schofield’s sex life.
No,let’s not go there.
Wot that nice Phil Schofield who made his money as a kids presenter and then made more money as a nice sound family man? (who turned out to be bravely lying about it all as he’s gay) That Nice Phil Schofield?
What “rules”? Not hugging is guidance, not law.
Grandmother + grandson = hug.
Mother = slap.
A coworker of mine who lives in the Knowsley council catchment area told me that he received a letter saying that the Covid Marshalls will be patrolling the streets telling people not to trick or treat. I say parents should dress their kids as members of the Covid SS
If I was a mum I would be inviting children round to a Halloween party. I don’t even take any notice normally, but this year is a big f*ck you to these bastards.
OK if the kids go from door to door telling people to track or trace?
You’ve probably stopped discussing the “bedwetter” terminological issue, but I recommend the term “Covidian” (not my invention). It focuses attention on the cultish aspect rather than physical disability or cowardice.
I want the focus on cowardice, where it belongs.
I quite like that.
I am thinking that the best way to deal with this mess is too ensure your elderly ones never go into a home. It may mean that one of you in your family has to become a carer but even chemotherapy and palliative care can be done at home.
Given that every single household in the UK will have at least one person not working because of the economic collapse … Then this is the best way.
I am also thinking of setting up voluntary stuff not run as a business. I love swimming and I am thinking of setting up an open water swimming club where each club member spends part of their session on a paddle board being the life guard. Six people in a session to keep to the Rule of Six. Flasks & warm clothes in a car. This is the way. Go back to grass roots.
Similarly I sail a dinghy. Again if each volunteer offers to man the RIB power boat or even a rowing boat on a lake for part of their sailing sessions, we can keep sailing.
Just by-pass the officials. Bio-Security Fascism is the future.
Yes – I really am not a carer sort of person at all, not because I dont care. However over the last few weeks of my Mum being so depressed and her physical health affecting her more and more, I cannot consider a point at which she could be somewhere that we cant get to her. It is unimaginable to me, how all you families out there can be coping with the current situation.
I get your point about not putting your elderly relatives in a home but it’s not that simple a choice when they have dementia. I could not have cared for my mum at home. For one it needed two people to get her in and out of bed, to the loo, in the shower. Her needs were beyond what one untrained person could provide. That said I can only begin to imagine how I’d be feeling if she was still alive in her care home this year. I’m glad she died last year – what a world we have created that I can say that 🙁
I am in the same position with my father. I am looking at hoists etc. Also putting in a stairlift. It’s an expense well worthwhile and my adult daughter thought it was great as she said she can use all that stuff when I get old! I’ve had it with the NHS. The NHS should needs to do operations and A&E.
Not everyone “puts” their loved ones in homes. Sometimes it’s done by force. My mother kept breaking bones, because her bones were like swiss cheese, so they forced her into permanent care against much protest. She broke just as many bones in the nursing home as she did at home! I’m glad she’s been gone two years and didn’t have to experience this bullshit.
This is a wonderful idea, Al. We need a one-stop-shop for services like this. I think the LS forum would be a good place to start putting these types of groups together. What do you reckon?
I agree – that is similar to what a group of us are trying to do where I live. Open water swimming already established & group is growing.
Currently, trying to persuade the few like-minded sceptics there are, to think about chair pilates or yoga or bowls, instead of knit & natter etc.
Badminton is v. popular; fortunately have a community hall that has re-opened. Their need for revenue overcame the fear of the virus!
Definitely the way to go.
Just got wind of a new risk. Remember the Cyprus banking crisis where depositors could only access a small percentage of their accounts for accounts over a certain value? This is planned for early 2021 – so make sure that you have your savings in more than one account. They won’t take your money just control your access to it (same thing) – there will be a mortgage & rent holiday to sweeten the public.
I am a retired lawyer who witnessed this robbery in 2008/9. IT IS COMING.
What about Premium Bonds? I have money in two bonds accounts.
premium-bonds are they worth it?
Top savings accounts https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/savings-accounts-best-interest/
Yes the amount of wins I have had most months in the past few years has worked out at about 7% interest overall so far. No savings account I know of matches that.
I haven’t done that well, but I earn more than I do on my other accounts.
I think you make an excellent point. Certainly anyone transacting big-ticket items (house sale) needs to be very careful. Don’t assume the deposit guarantee system will work to the maximum per account, so, yes, certainly spread savings (if anyone still has any!) around banks and building societies. Beware of combined account rules within one provider.
I and several of my clients were badly burnt when I worked in the city in 2008/9. They can’t keep printing money and negative interest rates don’t work as these interest rates are essentially interbank lending.
I’ve still got some Disney dollars somewhere, how long do you think it will be before they will be worth more than real “money”?
They’re just as Mickey mouse as “real” money.
I think that Donald Trump has some Confederate money somewhere.
How did he get the Democrats money?
Garage is setting up a new investment podcast. Clearly this is his way of trying to help us avoid this. But gold is hard to barter.
Hmmm, sovereigns and half-sovereigns seem plausible barter items to me, AP.
No one gives two shits about money when people are starving from food shortages.
I have been thinking that something like this might be coming,i wonder what the certain value would be?
Food ?
Maybe our organs?
I’ve been thinking about getting into cryptocurrencies. Don’t want to make millions, just hedge against a monetary collapse.
In my opinion this is what this whole thing is mostly about.
The world financial system is primed to implode.
As global trade collapses the challenges for the aauthorities are:
Please support this brave young man who seems to be properly pushing back against this tyranny by refusing to close.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-liverpool-gyms?d=Zz2yAAhS7lUJijOMsg67Km8kirkmrv3BYqnDq9qMviY%3D
Done. So proud of them for taking a stand – here’s hoping more businesses follow his example.
Done. He has my total respect for fighting this and I’m so proud we have people like this left in our society.
“Only by assuming [“pretending?”] that this virus differs fundamentally from other risks can governments continue to get away with unprecedented and arbitrary restrictions on peaceful human activities” I think that’s a very pertinent insight. With my suggested minor amendment, it pins the label on the incontinent nonsense that has been promulgated since May. And the insight from the NHS doctor confirms all that has been said here about the accuracy of ‘Covid’ figures. In fact, my estimate is that he is (rightfully) erring on the side of caution in spelling out the nonsense that are official figures, particularly given the spectacular uselessness of the PCR Test as a sole diagnostic tool : “So, in summary, the headline figure broadcast of ‘patients admitted with Covid’ includes: – Patients who really are ill with Covid and need treatment – Patients who test positive but have no symptoms and are in hospital for an unrelated issue – Patients who arrived without Covid, but contracted it in hospital and may never have developed symptoms either” It would be interesting to have a catalogue of statements from ‘official’ sources since March that have been proved misleading or false as evidence has accumulated. The egregious Whitty/Vallance… Read more »
Saw a flash of a Tweet earlier, can’t find it again so paraphrasing:
“There was no first lockdown. The middle classes stayed at home while working class people brought them stuff.”
Which begs the question, who are Essential Workers essential for?
yes and the upper class profiteered from the situation
This is so true. The middle classes had a lovely lockdown in their nice houses with their gardens and their lovely local areas. I count myself in that, on our little small holding in a beautiful part of rural Wales, with my partner, our dogs horses cats and the wildlife. It was a breeze. I did almost all shopping online, delivery drivers turning up daily stressed, over worked and underpaid. Different story to people living in crappy damp one bed apartments on sink estates sharing with a violent partner and druggies hanging round outside.
I wouldn’t call it wonderful, but yes, some are affected much more dramatically than others, at least physically.
Well said. The middle classes enjoyed their lockdowns because they had large homes with gardens and located in the shires or in posh parts of big cities.
Mr Bart acknowledges that without his allotment, it could have been worse. However that doesn’t negate the fact that we live in a not so good area and that there’s hardly anywhere to go to in terms of walks.