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Trump Administration Backs Great Barrington Declaration
In a big boost to the anti-lockdown movement, one of President Donald Trump’s key advisers on coronavirus, Professor Scott Atlas, tweeted yesterday that Trump’s policies align with the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration.
The federal system in America means most public health policy sits with the states and lower tiers of government so Trump is limited in what he can change. Nonetheless, to have the leader of the free world, according to one of his closest advisers, standing with anti-lockdown science and policymaking can only help to turn things around.
“Extremely likely” Second Wave Within Three Weeks, Says Government
Leaked public health documents sent to public health staff around Greater Manchester and Lancashire reveal the Government is predicting a second wave in the North West of England even worse than the first within the next three weeks. Here’s an excerpt from the document, as quoted in the Mail:
It is reasonable to assume no impact can be made in the increasing trend in bed occupancy for at least the next two weeks, as these cases have already occurred. Even if a full scale lockdown was called tomorrow bed occupancy would continue to rise after the next two weeks as hospital beds fill quicker than they empty for Covid patients.
During the first peak in April hospital bed occupancy reached its maximum point in the North West at 2,890 on April 13th. It is extremely likely that this will happen in 17 to 22 days. If nothing changes in terms of downward pressure on R [reproduction rate] in the next 10 days, hospital bed occupancy will start to approach 6,000 in 30 to 35 days. This is double the number of beds occupied at the peak in the North West in April.
Separately, Chief Medical Officer Dr Chris Whitty reportedly told MPs yesterday that intensive care patient numbers in the North West could hit April levels within three weeks if they continue at the current rate. But will they? Case numbers nationally as of yesterday are nowhere near the level projected by Sir Patrick Vallance’s graph of doom. Whitty has been predicting a much deadlier winter wave since April, so he is heavily invested in the idea.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and whether, as in Madrid and elsewhere, “downward pressure on R” appears all by itself and puts the brakes on. Given the leaked Government document itself admits any additional interventions will have been too late, should this happen (and you’d have to bet on it) it will be a key point for sceptics to press.
Is Vitamin D a Silver Bullet?
Dr Mikko Paunio, a Finnish epidemiologist and Lockdown Sceptics contributor, has written an original article for us today praising an Israeli study that shows just how effective vitamin D is in preventing COVID-19 infection. He is an advisor to the Finnish Government and believes that if entire populations take vitamin D supplements lockdown restrictions can be lifted.
As a cabinet officer in the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health of Finland, I am convinced that Finland’s COVID-19 control strategy should now include recommendations of vitamin D supplements to all age groups except children. Daylight is becoming shorter by the day. Thus, our ability to produce vitamin D in skin diminishes markedly. As a seasoned epidemiologist and public health specialist, I consider it scientifically proven that high levels of vitamin D provide both protection against severe COVID-19, but even more importantly there is strong evidence that high vitamin D levels slow markedly virus circulation and might even provide ‘herd immunity’ to populations according to a study published a month ago. It is as yet non-peer-reviewed but already can be considered a milestone study. It is a remarkable matched case control study of 52,405 COVID-19 cases and 524,050 matched controls picked up from Clalit Health Services (CHS), which provides comprehensive health services to over 4.6 million members in Israel.
Vitamin D now appears to provide us with a silver bullet solution to protect the most vulnerable and provides us with the means to get rid of these socially disastrous lockdowns even before there is a vaccine available.
The Great Barrington Declaration, which has been signed by almost 4,300 public epidemiologists and health specialists, around 7,700 medical professionals and 108,000 members of the general public, calls for protecting the most vulnerable and opening up society. Vitamin D supplements could significantly improve public acceptance of this alternative strategy, which would allow us to normalise societies.
Are you listening Witless and Unbalanced?
Worth reading in full.
Focused Protection “Not Achievable” – Health Minister
Health minister Nadine Dorries tweeted yesterday: “Isolating older at risk (over-60s) looks good on paper, in reality it is not achievable. Infections are brought into care homes by care workers, into private homes by those who do their shopping or others with whom they live. Into hospitals by staff. No one can live in isolation.”
So that’s that then. The Times appears to agree. After briefly flirting in a Wednesday editorial with the idea that the scientists behind the Great Barrington Declaration might have a point, yesterday their science correspondent Rhys Blakely reverted to lockdown orthodoxy with an attempted repudiation.
There are “three big areas of uncertainty,” he says. The first is Long Covid, though he does seem to accept that the impact of this condition by itself “would not be severe enough to warrant shutting down society”.
Next is herd immunity.
Is it attainable? “We do not know yet how long immunity will last, so achieving herd immunity may not be simple,” James Naismith, director of the Rosalind Franklin Institute, said.
Immunity from other illnesses caused by coronaviruses wanes over time. We do not have herd immunity to the common cold, for instance, despite many of us having one or more each year. Coming down with COVID-19 might reduce the severity of a subsequent infection, it may mean that you are less likely to transmit it if you catch it again — we just don’t know. Some experts believe that herd immunity will only be achievable with a good vaccine.
We just don’t know? There is an awful lot of evidence out there if one cares to look. Why else did the UK outbreak peak and decline before lockdown, as even Chris Whitty acknowledged to MPs in July? And why would a vaccine give immunity when infection doesn’t? They are priming the same immune system.
The third “area of uncertainty” is Dorries’s argument, and the main line the Government is taking – focused protection is unrealistic because it’s not practically possible to protect elderly and vulnerable people.
But just how much protection are you going to provide by imposing restrictions on the healthy population? It didn’t work in March and April and it’s unlikely to work now. The difference between Sweden and the UK is that the elderly and vulnerable in Sweden are now better protected than they are here because more people were exposed to the virus in the spring and summer.
It is true there are particular challenges where vulnerable people live with those of low risk. Rhys Blakely asks: “How does, say, a school-age child living with a parent with an underlying condition change their behaviour to protect them?” What he doesn’t acknowledge is that we’re already living with this dilemma. At least under “focused protection” it would only be for a few more months, with special arrangements in place, rather than indefinitely while we wait for the elusive vaccine.
As the GB Declaration says: “A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.”
Come on guys, this is the alternative to endless restrictions that are killing people and destroying our society and culture. Try to be a bit more open-minded.
Stop Press: Dr Mike Yeadon is on fire on Twitter. He has produced several threads recently rebutting all the objections to the Great Barrington Declaration. You can follow him here.
Who is Professor Devi Sridhar?
Professor Devi Sridhar advises the Scottish Government on public health and is a go-to person for the media, as here when Channel 4 gave her a platform this week to denounce the Great Barrington Declaration, written by some of the world’s leading scientists, as not “scientific” or “accurate”. But what are her qualifications? A Lockdown Sceptics reader has done some digging.
As an academic who has known other academics working in the field of Public Health, I am always baffled that the sainted Devi is allowed to denounce actual experts on the question of Covid, yet remain unchallenged as to the grounds of her own expertise.
What is the discipline of ‘Public Health’? Does it have anything to do with science? Or does it have more to do with finger-waving moralists who have a zeal for controlling the public and finding apparently reputable cover as ‘public health experts’ for their actions?
After some research I found out some more detail about Prof Sridhar – more than appears on her Wikipedia page (which is quite vague on specifics of her academic credentials, referring to things along the lines of “was a fellow in All Souls College, Oxford”, and the like).
She studied for her DPhil in the School of Social and Cultural Anthropology, with Prof Stanley Ulijaszek, a nutritional anthropologist (see her name listed under the heading: “former DPhil students”).
She subsequently became a postdoctoral fellow in the Department of Politics, All Souls College, University of Oxford. Take a look at this article preview, and you will see her credentials at the bottom of the first page of the article. The article opens with an interesting quotation: “Medicine [public health] is a social science, and politics is nothing but medicine [public health] on a large scale.”
As well as the remarkably swift rise from postdoc fellow to full professor at the age of 30 in 2014, with little more than six years postdoctoral experience under her belt, there is the question of how an expert in the field of public health, a sort of offspring of sociology and politics, is allowed to get away with rebuking some of the leading scientists and medics on the question of Covid?
And, can one perhaps find the roots of Sturgeon’s lockdown of pubs and banning of alcohol sales in Sridhar’s own long-standing advocacy of alcohol control measures (something she has published several articles about)? A tip: go to the online library catalogue at the University of Oxford and search her name, and you will find many articles, some letters to scientific journals, advocating the restriction of alcohol.
Just 14% of UK Covid “Cases” Symptomatic
A new study from UCL shines more light on the myth that a positive test is the same as a clinical “case”. From Medical Xpress:
86% of UK residents who tested positive for COVID-19 during lockdown did not have the specific virus symptoms (cough, and/or fever, and/or loss of taste/smell), finds a new study by UCL researchers. The authors say a more widespread testing programme is needed to catch ‘silent’ transmission and reduce future outbreaks.
The paper, which is published today in Clinical Epidemiology, used data from the Office for National Statistics Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey pilot study – a large population based survey looking at the association between COVID-19 symptoms and COVID-19 test results.
“Silent transmission”? How does that differ from “no transmission”, given how weak the evidence is that asymptomatic people actually infect others? Note that the ONS survey takes into account false positives (by double testing), unlike the other Government testing pillars. When false positives are factored in to the community testing date, the proportion with symptoms sinks even further.
Meanwhile, various studies have shown that only around 20-25% of those who have symptoms go on to test positive for antibodies (though they may be immune in other ways).
So let me get this straight. If you test positive for the virus you’re very unlikely to be unwell. And if you’re unwell you’re very unlikely to develop antibodies. Yet most people assume a positive test is a clinical case and will produce antibodies. No wonder all the data on this virus is contradictory and confusing.
Round-Up
- “At a time of national crisis, all we want is a Prime Minister with a plan” – Sir Keir Starmer in the Telegraph lacking a sense of irony as he exposes his own lack of plan. He calls on the Government to fix testing and involve local leaders. How about some actual opposition, Keir?
- “My manifesto to beat coronavirus crisis: Protect the elderly and vulnerable, let the rest live their lives, and throw Britain open again” – Prof David Livermore, signatory of the Great Barrington Declaration, sets out his case in the Mail. Stephen Glover lends his support
- “After a severe epidemic, South Africa appears to be approaching some herd immunity” – Excellent article by public health specialist Prof Jonny Myers in the Maverick Citizen
- “Madrid court annuls central government’s COVID-19 curbs on city” – Another legal victory for sceptics, reported in Reuters, though the Spanish Government is now threatening to force the issue the issue with a state of emergency anyway
- “Are pubs and restaurants really driving the rise in Covid cases? None of the data says so” – Dr Chris Whitty claims they are, but not according to the published data, says Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph
- “The Government’s bid to smear critics as in favour of ‘letting the virus rip’ is disgusting” – Prof Karol Sikora is not happy with the state of the public debate in the Telegraph
- “Could children have been our secret weapon against coronavirus?” – Good discussion of the Edinburgh paper on the Imperial model by Sarah Knapton in the Telegraph
- “London Mayor Sadiq Khan joins calls for review of 10pm curfew as he warns curb is ‘counter-productive’” – A change of tune from the mayor in the Evening Standard
- “Australia ‘unlikely to open borders until end of 2021’ when vaccine is available” – Lockdown forever in the Telegraph. This assumes of course that a vaccine will help, even though it isn’t being tested to prevent infection or death…
- “We will not be returning to the old normal” – Ominous editorial in the Lancet, warning: “All the vaccine scenarios will require that the mitigation measures employed worldwide continue for a few years at least.” And concluding: “It is time to forcefully impress on people that basic measures to limit the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 are here to stay. This is the new normal.”
- “Covid vaccine to be rolled out by NHS from next month with tens of thousands of people to get jabs daily by Christmas” – Plans are already well advanced, says the Sun
- “Joe Biden Is the Shutdown Candidate” – With Donald Trump telling Americans not to be afraid of Covid and not to let it rule them, the presidential candidates are divided by their attitudes to lockdown, says Daniel Henninger in the Wall Street Journal
- “Lockdown has caused a mental-health crisis” – Yet mental health charities won’t say a thing against it, writes Dave Clements in spiked
- “Mandatory masks in offices will be considered by the Government, says Robert Jenrick” – Worrying report from the Telegraph
- “Councils get millions of pounds for marshals” – Depressing news of a funding splurge to pimp-up the tinpot Stasi from the BBC
- “As MPs ask Matt Hancock to supplement the nation, can vitamin D actually help with Covid?” – Good explanation from the Telegraph about the remarkable Covid-related benefits of vitamin D
- “Nullify non-disclosure agreements/gagging orders for NHS staff for COVID-19” – New petition. Please sign it here
- “In the age of Covid, the law is a thug” – Excellent piece in CapX on the absurdity of the incomprehensible rules the Government expects us to follow
- “Under attack at NYU, Mark Crispin Miller needs your support for academic freedom” – Sign this petition in defence of Mark Crispin Miller, a Professor at NYU who is at risk of being fired for telling his students to read the research literature on the effectiveness of face masks
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.49 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Stop Press: The mayor and health chief of Tulsa in the US are being sued by a group who say the city’s mask mandate is harmful to health. The group includes Dr James Meehan, who says:
Mask wearing has well-known risks that have been well-studied and they’re not being discussed in the risk analysis. I’m seeing patients that have facial rashes, fungal infections, bacterial infections. Reports coming from my colleagues, all over the world, are suggesting that the bacterial pneumonias are on the rise.
Why might that be? Because untrained members of the public are wearing medical masks, repeatedly… in a non-sterile fashion… They’re becoming contaminated. They’re pulling them off of their car seat, off the rearview mirror, out of their pocket, from their countertop, and they’re reapplying a mask that should be worn fresh and sterile every single time.
New research is showing that cloth masks may be increasing the aerosolization of the SARS-COV-2 virus into the environment causing an increased transmission of the disease.
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Yay again!
Here’s today’s summary of “What I Believe”:
You may well be right. However, my intended audience is the great British people. The members of the front bench are a lost cause.
Unfortunately many of the Great British Public are still asleep.
That said they will get a nasty wake up call beginning next month.
Unfortunately, the front bench are the ones in charge and making the rules.
You reckon ? 🙂
Or is it Bill Gates?
Can’t see it working in the UK, apart from the health passport to travel out of the country. Stopping free speech these days is like trying to stop the tide.
Is it? Where is it you think you have free speech today? On Twitter, FB, Instagram, YouTube? Definite Nope.
Here where literally no-one is listening? Oh sure.
And in the physical world, freedom of association has been smashed and crushed to a pulp, which directly affects freedom of speech.
you’re not wrong
The listening bit is different, but still many outlets for comments. Did politicians ever listen to the people?
Only when they came with overwhelming force – something that the state is better insulated against today than it ever has been in the past.
I’m taking heart from gbdeclaration.org. They have made a clear and reasonable appeal for a sensible and proportionate approach. I’m sure it doesn’t go nearly far enough for many of us, but it’s the sort of thing I can send to my colleagues without instantly being derided.
If we can distill our beliefs down into unequivocal, falsifiable statements then we can do what the GBD has done and make a case that doesn’t involve confusing charts or arguments over FPR or IFR or whatever, a case that simply says: “This is I what I believe. What do you believe?”
No hectoring, no facts, no emotions. Just statements that people can agree with or not. A badge that the converted can wear, a ready justification when challenged for going unmasked, a simple message that even kids can understand.
Totally agree, and on that basis, I shared it on my Facebook profile (I usually steer well clear of any comment about what’s going on). Even so, I still had several “friends” saying I was being cruel for suggesting herd immunity as a strategy. Some people are so far gone I don’t think they can ever come back from this….
Yes. One of my closest friends gets all her info from the Grad and the Beeb. She’s an intelligent woman with an incisive mind that normally sees straight through BS. She’s a totally lost cause.
Recent conversation:
-” I don’t want to get into it with you but you can’t deny there’s a virus”
-“I never said there wasn’t a virus, just that it’s no worse than flu”
-I don’t want to get into it with you!
Long Silence
-“But people are dying!!”
Very long silence ………………..
While reading the novel Fall, I was struck by something that one of the characters said:
“We are all mortal. We only differ by the extent to which we ignore that fact.”
This statement was the inspiration for my Everyone Dies t-shirt, a design that reflects my struggle to understand the minds of the mask wearers.
Do they think that apart from COVID-19, humans are immortal?
Or do they think that the value of a life is measured solely in the number of times a heart beats, that the day-to-day quality of such a life is irrelevant?
To those who would wear a mask, I say:
“No one gets out of here alive. Make sure your life is worth living.”
If you liked that book, I strongly recommend to you the Bobiverse series by Dennis E Taylor.
Book 1 is We Are Legion (We Are Bob).
It’s about a guy who signed up for cryogenic storage, and then got hit by a car and killed.
He wakes up as a mind instantiated on a computer that is part of a Von Neumann probe (a self-replicating exploratory spacecraft).
It’s a fantastic series of books, and the audiobooks are read by Ray Porter who is superb.
Nice, thanks. I’ve added the series to my reading list.
I’m a sucker for Neal Stephenson and I’ve read everything he has published more than once, with the sole exception of Anathem which I just couldn’t get into, for some reason.
Thanks. They’re on Kindle Unlimited. I’ll get them next time round!
I love your designs, Mabel -and you’re right, most people have never considered death or dying and so they’re scared at this inevitable prospect. But to live a full life, we have to be at peace with the fact that it’s all temporary, and could end at any minute. What better incentive is there to make the most of each moment? And that may ultimately be what differentiates those of us who can see the truth of what’s going on, and those who can’t. We’re rather live fully than just merely existing.
“No one gets out of here alive. Make sure your life is worth living.”
That belongs on a t-shirt.
Herd immunity is not a strategy as such. It’s the natural outcome of a virus running its course, which can be accelerated with an effective vaccine.
“Cruel” How is the non-cruel strategy of lockdowns working for the country as a whole, for those who died alone, for those whose cancer has gone untreated etc etc etc.
It’s one of the great imponderables of this whole mess, Julian – how the true believers simply seem unable to see that more harm is being caused by prioritising covid cases over everything else.
I would far sooner not have my herd immunity accelerated by a Bill Gates liability free genocidal witches brew, jokingly referred to as a vaccine. You can go first.
Yep, I agree. And whilst I’ll no doubt be derided for saying so, it goes just about far enough as far as I’m concerned; in that it maps out a least harm route to epidemic equilibrium/herd immunity.
The State is obviously worried that the GBD is gaining traction and are using their media mouthpieces to try to discredit it. You can see this quite plainly from a recent Sky News piece where the ‘journalist’ is using the existence of fake names on the petition and because some of the signatories are ‘out there’ types such as homeopaths.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronvairus-dr-johnny-bananas-and-dr-person-fakename-among-medical-signatories-on-herd-immunity-open-letter-12099947
And here we go…
https://unherd.com/thepost/is-the-guardian-planning-an-attack-on-the-great-barrington-scientists/
German resistance is switching to Telegram.
I’ll take a look at their Ohm page.
What’s Telegram?
It’s what you get from the Queen. Yours is probably on its way 😉
Haha, in about another half a century 😉 From William, as Prince Charles will likely have gone by then?????
I refuse to accept that the Queen won’t go on for ever.
I’m afraid I’m done with the royal family when she and Phil are no longer on the scene.
Don’t worry, she’s immortal.
a messaging app for your phone . bit like whatsapp , but apparently very secure
Is it available for desktop / laptop?
My phone is now strictly calls only.
It does work on a computer/laptop as well. I have it.
I’ve used it from my laptop.
Precisely put. We can not afford to wait it out though.
The health passport is a big issue if you have family abroad..
The health passport is a big issue if you’re a dual citizen. I feel like I’m going to have to pick a country and never be able to see the other one again.
Especially this:
“The virus is not the disease”
I am tired of hearing people conflate the two.
First oligarchic fascism, then Marxist.
Otherwise, I agree.
Can I add, I believe that you can identify ‘covidiots’ because they:
Swerve off the pavement if you come within 10 feet of them
Wear masks in cars when alone
Wear masks AND those plastic welders masks
Wear masks when outside
Wear masks in shops AND have that permanent wide eyed look of utter horror
Believe everything that MSM says about the ‘mass killer’
Think thousands are dying every day, just from covid
Say ‘if it saves just one life’
Say ‘be kind’…………….
And of course Keir Starmer is on board with all that. His job is to be virtually invisible and he seems to be very good at that.
Have you ever considered that the testers themselves are spreading the virus?
The are up close and personal with many people.
A simple question to write to your MP – ( it’s better than doing nothing)
A couple of weeks ago Boris Johnson said a second lockdown would be a catastrophe for the British economy.
Why then is he so keen to have one?
His plan must be to bring a catastrophe to the British economy.
Silver
All that glisters is not gold;
Often have you heard that told.
Yes. It could just be a turd rolled in glitter.
such an object is even rarer than gold.
That accurately describes dePiffle’s election campaign.
When will society start caring about us? We are constantly being beaten over the head with the mantra that we need to do our bit to protect others. Wear a mask, socially distance, follow the rules. To fail to do so, we are told, is to be selfish and uncaring about others. But when will others start caring about us? Every day we all read a half dozen messages on here from people who are struggling badly to cope with this situation. They are heartbreaking messages of despair. And most of us sympathise instantly because they are feelings that we all share. Feelings of helplessness, frustration and distress. That our liberty has been constrained is a fact. Some people may not mind it. But for those of us on here, it is very real and deeply distressing. For us liberty is not a frivolous luxury, it is essential to our lives, almost as important as basic sustenance. We worry about new surveillance and control mechanisms being put in place permanently. Some people may not mind them or even welcome them. Some people may not believe these things will come to pass. But many of us on here feel real, profound… Read more »
Well said. If I can recommend your comment more than once I will.
I’ve always had a cynical view of humanity but the scales well and truly fell for me back in 2016. Four years later nothing has changed, in fact its become worse.
It’s like the Picture of Dorian Gray, the ugliness within is being exposed more and more as time goes by.
I know of people who will happily throw the likes of us under the bus if it suits them. And I will never trust them. Ever.
Hear hear.
“I’ve always had a cynical view of humanity but the scales well and truly fell for me back in 2016.” Me too, although my sense of how wrong things were predated even 2016, with the response to the financial crisis, followed by the wars initiated by Western politicians and how they failed to deal with the waves of immigrants from the ME and elsewhere. None of it made sense. The clue was when someone pointed out that all these world leaders weren’t as stupid as we thought they must be, which inevitably led to the conclusion that what they were doing was deliberate, which led to the next question: why? I have felt this weight on me for a long time. The suppression of free speech has also been a long time in the making, which accelerated after Trump won the election and the social media giants all said they wouldn’t allow such an election result to happen again. I’ve seen the same sort of suppression of views over the climate change catastrophe apocalypse debate, where any dissension is ruthlessly quashed. This is what’s happening now with CV19, where our government, with others, are refusing to be swayed from the… Read more »
Agree with you. I work with perfectly nice people but have really vile views to the point that they’re happy to suppress free speech and not listen to alternative views.
That for me is a no-no and while I have to get on with them to get the job done. I will never seek them for help even if they were the last person on earth.
Most normies don’t (or can’t) think things through to see where their apparently benign mainstream views lead, when it involves more than 2 steps, and requires them to question their assumptions.
I’ve been a long time man-made global warming sceptic (I have a geology degree so can see things in perspective) and there is absolutely no serious academic opposition to it. To contradict the ‘religion’ is to commit career suicide. At least covid-19 has a number of serious academics who are challenging the ‘science’ – at least, at the moment they are.
It’s the same mindset, and I suspect the very same people behind the global warming/climate change agenda as are behind this CV19 narrative. I wonder how long it’ll be before people won’t be able to question the nonsense of this unpandemic.
2016 for me too,the vote to Leave the EU was the biggest public vote ever and the scumeratti decided to ignore it.
Very well articulated Stewart. Thank you…. and exactly how I feel too. Good to know there are others (a minority, but growing, one hopes) of like minds.
This is another post that must be included when the history of the Great Covid Scamdemic is written.
Well said!!
Bravo. If only our pathetic, cowardly leaders gave speeches this rousing.
Beautiful Stewart so utterly true.
Don’t wear a mask! Get an exemption card like I and my partner have and wear it round your neck with a NHS lanyard ( purchased off EBay). Though it’s surprising how many panoply have never heard of exemptions in the hospitality industry. Not had any problems and when I see another non mask wearer ( not often sadly but then I live in a rural area) we exchange furtive looks of triumph! Little uplifts in this mass hysteria world!
Can be printed off the Gov. UK site.
That will get you put straight on The Lost but their website does say a handmade sign will suffice.
The List !
Why would I walk around with a badge on my chest that says “Hey, check me out, I’m some kind of spaz”?
I know my rights, I have a copy of the regs on the homepage of my phone and I will give anyone who challenges me both barrels from the Disability Discrimination Act.
Exactly!
Likewise but have only used it once to show my favourite convenience store owner, because nobody had advised him of the law and then sent him a copy
“A spaz”. Classy. I wear my “spaz status” with pride, Aidan. Always have been different from the rest of the crowd. Probably accounts for why I was able to see past the propaganda, even if it took me a while.
But you go ahead and diss people who are resisting in any way they feel comfortable. I’m still waiting to see more than the occasional non-mask wearer. However, a fair number of the bus drivers smile and say hello nicely when I get on board. All non-mask wearers, of course. Probably happy to see a human being.
Now if you want to call it a yellow star, I’d go along with that.
I don’t wear a lanyard. It’s illegal to be challenged. End of!
It is, but I think it’s counterproductive to s**t on those of us who choose to wear a lanyard.
I believe in freedom of choice. If you want to wear a lanyard, be my guest. If people want to wear face nappies, that should be their choice too.
Incidentally, given the original derivation of spaz, I find it an offensive word.
I prefer the exemption badges also from Ebay.
This really resonates. I’m in New Zealand, and like probably half the population I have a loved one who lives overseas. We have been essentially prevented from seeing them for 7 months now and counting. The worry of when we might be able to see them again is real and distressing, particularly if it’s for a family emergency (death, illness) because there is no lee-way in the two week mandatory isolation in managed facilities that needs to be taken into account. And on top of this, we have to pay for this – a public health measure to “protect” the rest of the population of New Zealand who are hiding away from reality. This anxiety caused by separation from family is basically ignored at best, and engenders vitriol at worst. It’s a nasty situation and one that seems to attract no concern either from our government or from “fellow” New Zealanders.
I can’t see my grandkids who live in the same town!
My son hasn’t seen his own daughters for 8 weeks now.
We’re in local mockdown, the mothers are playing by the book and there’s nothing we can do.
That must be very hard for you 🙁
Thanks.
One mum is police, so hard for her to break the rules. I accept what I can’t change and change whatever I can.
Very well put.
All it takes is for a parent to sue a school for their kids facial sores. Where was the risk assessment for mask wearing? Where is the liability (there is none)?
Anyone here want to be the first to sue a school? Might a group be able to get together via UsForThem and do it that way?
Imeptigo is no joke, and is *extremely* infectious…
Though mask mouth and associated dental problems might be taken more seriously in court?
Cetavlex used to clear impetigo very quickly – though they might have changed the formula since I was a kid.
Tissue salts 4 (Ferrum Phos) and 7 (Kali Sulph) is recommended for impetigo
My daughter came home with impetigo this week on her face. She’s not wearing a mask anymore and hasn’t been challenged (public bus or school). It’s child abuse.
If you look at Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, you can see what the effect of this has been.
Level 1 is okay (when the supermarket shelves aren’t empty), level 2 is compromised and only satisfied under a tight definition. Levels 3, 4 & 5 have been practically abolished.
Very interesting, shows how carefully planned this is. Thanks for posting.
It’s an interesting topic and I’ve only just thought about it framed in this way, but it presents a really stark picture of what this is doing to people.
No-one who even knows the first thing about psychology can ignore this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
Maybe we should send it to Julia H-B or post it to respected sceptics?
I have posted a comment lower down about the destruction of culture. I could not work out why they would do this from an economic p.o.v. But I now think this really is a multipronged attack.
I also like the slightly more nuanced approach provided by Manfred Max-Neef’s Fundamental human needs.
I’ve just started studying psychology and thought exactly the same thing!!!
I’m not very fond of Maslow’s chart. He constructed this chart as an academic exercise. He may even have believed it himself. It may be useful in some senses, but it’s not been experimentally verified. It’s not an absolute truth.
The second rung of this chart, “security, safety” is particularly bad!
What really concerns me about this chart, is the language. “Need” is a word to avoid, if possible.
“need” could also be regarded as “clinging”.
It is perhaps best to think in terms of things you may require or things you may simply like. (That may be in some contexts a psychological trick you can play on yourself.)
So, for example, rather than clinging to relationships by saying “I need friends” which could cause anyone to run a mile, maybe choose instead to say “I like friends”.
See?
It’s much less clingy. And results in much less stress.
Some very good points John. Perhaps, though, it’s a useful rhetorical tool – at which point its scientific validity scarcely matters.
Agree. It’s not like the people we’re up against care about scientific validity.
Just about what Hitler had planned for Britain and that was being nice because he did not see us as natural enemies.
Yes yes yes. YES.
I think if you look at the frantic arse-covering the government is currently undertaking, you’ll find that we aren’t being dismissed.
I’ve never been coerced into wearing a mask. I just don’t wear one and act as if that’s perfectly normal – which it is.
I am very concerned about the situation but I REFUSE to be distressed about it, for that is the way we will lose.
Stop wallowing in victim mode and DO something, if it’s only to add to the anti-mockdown comments in the press. Go and encourage the journalists who are speaking out, because that will embolden the editors to publish more truth and less propaganda.
There’s a protest walk in London tomorrow. Stand up and be counted!
Please don’t presume to know what I am doing. I am very confident I do plenty. I choose not to share it for very good reasons.
I haven’t written that to wallow in self pity. I did so in anger and frustration at people’s despair which I read about on here ever day.
Having said that, I agree, we should all actually do something. But to pretend it’s easy is silly. Clearly many people on here find try and find it hard. And this site helps to re-charge and embolden.
Hopefully between us all, including your tough love approach, we can stir up protest and resistance.
Sounds like we’re all in violent agreement, which is currently my favourite kind 🙂
I presumed nothing. I merely responded to your negativity.
I would never say it’s easy – I’m not finding it at all easy myself.
But as long as there are even small things I can do, I refuse to become despondent because that way I’m a collaborator. Small things add up.
I totally understand your anger and frustration but responding negatively to people in despair isn’t exactly helpful, is it?
I don’t think that claiming the importance of liberty to so many of us is negative. I’ve simply tried to explain how important it is by drawing attention to how much damage is done to our wellbeing when it is taken away.
But if it brought you down, I’m sorry. Definitely not the intention.
Thanks me too. You didn’t bring me down but it was clear that emotions were quite raw this morning and many people were feeling despondent.
It’s easy to have a macho attitude about this. It’s unrealistic to expect everyone to have the same attitude. I think my unmasked face is a statement.
Great post
Thank you!
I’m in London. Is there a link, please?
I never heard about the Rally! Stay clear of the baton wielding thugs in uniform. 😉
My goodness that is so powerful. Thank you for putting how I feel into such clarity
Stewart, unlike others I don’t read despondency in your comment, simply an accurate – albeit bleak – assessment of the current situation. To answer your question: society already does care about us. At least that part of society which we comprise. As for the rest – the majority – I fear the answer is “never”. Their priorities are not ours, they seem to care nothing for liberty. I doubt many of them have read Ben Franklin’s wise words about sacrificing essential liberty to purchase temporary security, but if they have I’m sure they vehemently disagree with them. As to why, well I’ll make this observation and I welcome the thoughts of others on it. Most adults are in fact no such thing. Okay, they may have reached the age of majority, be working, paying taxes, having children, and all the other superficial markers of adulthood, but they aren’t really adults. So, why do I say that? Well, I think being an adult requires one to meet three criteria: 1) acceptance of your own mortality; and I mean real acceptance, not merely mouthing the words; 2) acceptance of the responsibility for steering your own course, making your own choices; 3) accepting… Read more »
I love your three criteria and agree with your assessment of the situation
Spot on – particularly point 2.
This is such a great summary of things I would like to type it up and show it to others if you are ok with that? I don’t think it should be lost on the page transfer
Please do.
Thank you 😀
Take an award for the post of the week. Well said indeed
Great comment Stuart. You have verbalised what so many of us are feeling. Keep up the good work my friend. Cheers, Arnie.
Awesome
I’m with you, Stewart.
Stewart i’m sorry to tell you but if you want your liberty and freedom then the best thing to do is get off your knees and start fighting for it .Asking the (government) very people who took it away in the first place to help you is in my view bordering on madness.I’m sorry if that sounds rude and it’s nothing personal i promise you but i find it hard to stomach the constant appeals for help on this site .Lets get things straight ,the government won’t help us nor the opposition nor the Queen or Jesus ,there aint a knight in shining armour or a loving earth mother to make things better .All there is is ourselves and we should be thankful that faced with that reality we can clearly start to find our own way out of the mess we are in .So getting things in perspective lets start fighting our way out . We need to start doing stuff amongst ourselves .Getting posters, stickers ,graffiti ,going to demo’s. It’s lonely for a lot of people on here ,so i would suggest joining a local group ,there are links in the forum or you can ask if anyone… Read more »
Well said, Wat. Sophisticated whingeing is still whingeing. We all need to do it sometimes, but we should all be doing something positive as well.
Excellent!
They don’t really care about us.
It’s a good tune.
Thank you Stewart. Wonderfully strong thoughts comment.
Mind Games. First we are told the young and intelligent voted to REmain. Now the young and stupid are causing Covid. Same Uni students apparently.
Yet they were all correct about voting Remain we were told, and we were destroying their future. Now the narrative has changed and the young are ruining the elderly’s future by killing them!
Amazing how anyone still believes them. Sceptics are always on the right side of history.
And of science!
Great Bob cartoon: so apt!
If we’re depending on the Great British public to stand up to this we’re doomed. The BBC has just published a recipe for a tuna & sweet corn baked potato, take a tin of tuna and add a tin of sweet corn, mix in mayo. Add to spuds, serves 4.
We’re doomed I tell you, doomed. I’m off to retrain as the first ever Northern, 18 stone, 57 year old dance/fitness teacher, you really can’t make this stuff up.
I guess they’re readying people for the number of food stuffs they currently have access to, to shrink. Cos CLIMATE CHANGE! Never mind. They’ll have the insects the UN keeps trying to foist on us.
It’s interesting… I could easily live solely on produce grown in the UK. I guess most people of my generation and older could do.
But the wokeys who care so deeply about the cuddly polar bears are going to have trouble sourcing UK-grown quinoa and avocado.
Ironically, avocado farming is an environmental disaster. Almonds too.
We try to eat local as much as possible but the main crop round here is lamb which I eat but AlanG doesn’t.
But look here: https://www.britishquinoa.co.uk/ AidanR, I suspect you will love the little video of the main bloke and it’s organic as well! 🙂
I suspect you’re right about UK avocados Maybe when it gets a bit warmer. . . . . . 😉 MW
It’s probably pure coincidence that those flowerheads look so much like cannabis 🙂
You can get British Quinoa. Hodmedod’s do it and other foods you don’t associate with being grown in the UK like British Baked Beans
Live and learn 🙂 How much of demand do we think could be sourced locally?
I’ve grown quinoa, although I found I didn’t really like the taste of it.
I still don’t know how to pronounce it.
This made me laugh 🤣
I called it quin-owa for ages! I think it’s pronounced keen-waa, but I still read it quin-owa 😆
I recently drove 500 miles to the South coast and back. No insects on my windscreen. Worrying!
Yes, that phenomena’s been reported elsewhere. When I was young and drove a car, I had to clean the windscreen all the time. There are still insects on my allotment, so they’re not all gone.
I’ve not had anywhere near as many as usual in my garden this summer.
I’ve noticed that.
We had a lot of different bees through the summer, and had a lot of butterflies early on, but a female wagtail decimated the butterfly population she was feeding two of her young. There were butterfly wings all over the garden…..
How big a tin of tuna? Would need to be big to serve 4 people…
And twice as big as that if you also have 2 cats
I was thinking that. My granddaughter can eat a full tin no problem.
We have all this info available to us, we daily log on and get our rage going, yet what is it actually doing? Feel like it’s groundhog day – the govts, round the world not just here (UK), making up shite as they go along.
At least back in the day they had the decency to put the Berlin Wall up overnight, we’ve literally had a year (give or take) of berating and them putting it up around us, moving us out of the way to construct this.
Nothing, nothing at all will ever be the same, even when Boris “lifts restrictions next September”
We have lost, if in the face of such overwhelming science, opinion, debate etc the virus isn’t what it was originally thought it would be these restrictions are still applied, there is no world in which our clear, rational lives can be rewarded with our basic freedoms again.
I completely agree.
My take now is that I have to accept this, adapt to survive, and engineer my life in such a way as to have a meaningful existence in this new world. Plans are well underway in that respect.
Cannot agree. Maybe I’m just stubborn.
There’s a psychological price to be paid for refusing to accept what is observably true, just on the basis that you don’t wish it to be true. I’d advise you to reflect on that.
The 77th Brigade would be proud of the last three comments by you and D.B. People come here for a bit of hope to get through the day because they are “woke” to the seriousness of this situation. You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s not helpful IMHO.
haha well, you’re entitled to yours but IMHO it’s not helpful either.
I agree with you both. While we must continue to fight to stop this while there is still a window, we must also plan to live within, but apart from, their new order and work to bring it down from the inside.
Just a bit of nostalgia, do you remember the AIDS virus? Well it’s still out there and killing a million people a year. Also can I take my condom off now as it’s getting very wiffy.
I’ve seen lots of parallels…
1. Not many caring about the effect on developing nations.
2. Drugs companies making huge profits.
3. Stigmatisation of victims.
4. Proof that humans will always take calculated risks to live the lifestyle they want to even if the alternative might be a deadly disease.
5. Scaremongering that you can catch it from kissing and hugging.
Another museum contemplating redundancies:
https://twitter.com/MuseumofLondon/status/1314227534914093061
And the DCMS simply throwing money at the problem:
https://twitter.com/DCMS/status/1314460608918622208
https://twitter.com/DCMS/status/1314464346458685440
As I’ve said before and I will say it again, why is it that the museums and heritage sector happy to go a begging but not to deal with the root of the problem? Lockdown, social distancing and mandatory muzzling are the main cause of their abysmal visitor numbers and little to non existent revenue from retail, catering, events, etc. It’s nothing to do with the virus.
They should be campaigning to end all lockdown and Covid “safety” measures if they want to survive. The money from the government is not a bottomless pit and will not save them in the long run.
If they’re still too blind to see what’s going on then they deserve to go bust.
Yesterday someone asked why people/press were not more sceptical. This chap might have the answer
“This is the secret of propaganda. The saturation of a group of people with ideas without them even noticing it.
Of course propaganda has a goal but the goal must be so clever and brilliantly concealed that the people who are to be influenced by it don’t notice anything.
With wise foresight however we disciplined the journalists so that at critical times we did not even need to give orders, a mere sign was enough to make clear to the press there would be no discussion.
They started to anticipate the party line.”
Joseph Goebbels.
There are things that were written down and known by all 50 years ago, memories of which have been quietly erased since then by the cathedral.
Most people under 40 now think they were born in the year zero.
Brilliant!
Wasn’t me it was him !
I spent the best part of 20 years living in the Sultanate of Oman, where the press is definitely not free. There are supposed to be laws about what you can and cannot say, but they are so vaguely drawn that no-one knows quite what is OK to say and what is not. It is up to the censor to decide. As a result, the press tread a very cautious line, never taking any risks. The result is a load of very bland papers, full of gushing articles praising the wise deeds of the Sultan, and lots of pictures of smiling participants at opening ceremonies, conferences etc.
But the difference between our muzzled press and that of the Sultanate, is that many of the people know what is really going on. Gossip is a favourite occupation.
Omani press asper the latter part of my post ?
Absolutely. And I must admit that we too were careful as to what we said in public. The most unexpected faux pas could get you sent home on the next flight.
But the opposite is happening and the propaganda is starting to be questioned and exposed.
Hi, Have you got a source for this quote, Karenovirus? It got us looking up Goebbels quotes but we couldn’t find the full quote. Anyway, it all makes absolutely chilling reading. Basically it’s all there, everything the government is imposing on us now, faithfully followed by the Behavioural Insights Team/SPI-B and stenographed by the MSM.
I found an interesting article about his secretary who died in 2017, aged 106. She says that people think that they would have stood up to the Nazis if they’d been German in the 1930s but that actually they wouldn’t. It has also reminded us that the Nazis called themselves Socialists (!) Of course now we recognise their policies as fascist.
I think Cheezilla is right to say that questioning is going on but I am not sure if there’s nearly enough of it. It seems we just have to keep plugging on with people, support what opposition there is and, as AidanR says, make plans for how we are to survive as things get worse. MW
We have the internet now, so while it works for the propagandists, it’s also easier to find counter arguments. Just look at this site!
And Talk radio. UK Column. And Vernon Coleman, Ivor Cummings, Carl Vernon. And loads more!
We can circulate info about the German lawsuit and The AI report. We can raise support for Simon Dolan and for the BGD.
We must NOT say we’re beaten just as our momentum is becoming evident!
We must NOT say we’re beaten just as our momentum is becoming evident!
Absolutely not and we’re doing the above anyway but it’s good to know the enemy’s techniques. MW
With you there!
I’ve known for a long time that was Goebbels way of thinking, the quote is from footage of a speech in a German Documentary series called Hitlers Henchmen (eng. subs) . I’m out and about for a while but can give you more details later.
Thanks. MW
There’s not a lot more to add, my post is all it has on the methodology of his propaganda. The doc is mainly to do with his insecurities resulting from his deformed leg and his desperation to be liked by Hitler, even sacrificing his Czech mistress and ultimately his children.
It is quite an old doc but that has the advantage of having testimony from contemporaries.
I allegedly downloaded it from YouTube and cite as co-criminal Bill Gates and his Microsoft corporation.
Thanks, I’ll look it up. MW
‘….Propaganda on its own cannot force its way into unwilling minds; neither can it inculcate something wholly new……. the gifted propagandist brings to boil ideas and passions already simmering in the minds of his hearers ….Where opinion is not coerced, people can be made to believe only in what they already “know”. Wise words from Eric Hoffer ‘ The True Believer
Also Hitlers methodology, repeating back to his audience what they already believed. Anti semitism was widespread in central and eastern Europe, he didn’t need to persuade them just that he was the man to deal with it.
Just had an interesting text from my GP surgery, the core of which is:
“During COVID, NHSE mandated that consent [to receive SMS messages] was implied for all patients.If you continue to consent, take no further action, if you dissent please text back DECLINE to 0790xxxxxxxxx”
So clearly GPs have had some pushback, and someone has advised them to do this.
Plus they might have been threatened with complaints to the Information Commission for violation of GDPR rules.
I declined.
Reminding me of the old joke about the Latin Mistress who, when asked to conjugate, declined!
There is no such thing as implicit consent under GDPR. It is mandated to explicitly opt-in.
Hey, you know that and I know that… who you gonna call?
Good!
So if you get any other messages from the government, then they must have ignored your refusal of consent and broken GDPR rules by retaining your mobile number? So you can sue them?
I haven’t declined. Of all the things the government has done, this is the one I’m least concerned about. I don’t want to give them an excuse to not tell me about stuff I need to know, and I like 90% of the way the NHS now uses text messaging, having had extensive exposure to the NHS over the last 2 years.
What I did do was opt out of them putting my medical records on the central electronic system that gets its data sold to research companies and Google.
After all, Google already knows my phone number and where I live.
Just wait. I live in a local mockdown area and I get frequent propaganda texts from the NHS reminding me of the danger and requesting I get tested.
They’ve definitely had push back from me! I’ve emailed data_protection@dhsc.gov.uk and enquiries@nhsdigital.nhs.uk to ask them to delete the details they’ve been given by my GP without my permission. I encourage anyone who’s had emails/texts to do the same.
I’ve got an ongoing complaint with the Surgery about why they shared my details without my consent but no response so far so tempted to go to the ICO…
The hospitals NEVER WERE ANYWHERE OVERWHELMED”
They Peaked at 29% occupancy
National Audit Office Report Page 9
“ Between 17 March and 12 April, the number of available beds increased from 12,600 to 53,700, while the proportion of these beds occupied
by a COVID-19 patient peaked at 29%. The proportion of critical care beds occupied by COVID-19 patients in England was highest between 5 April and
14 April, at 50% or just over. The NHS additionally increased capacity through
a deal to access up to 8,000 beds in independent hospitals, and by establishing temporary Nightingale hospitals, although use of these was limited up to mid-May“
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Readying-the-NHS-and-adult-social-care-in-England-for-COVID-19-Summary.pdf
Here they commandeered a local private hospital for 6 months but never used it. Built a Nightingale but never used it.
Converted 2 distinct areas of hospital to ICU but only used one.
Closed down Oncology but they did nothing with that space at all.
We need to be careful in making this argument. The lockdown zealot response I’ve heard is that there was a finite number of ICU nurses, and they were overwhelmed, even though more beds remained available. Apparently 6 nurses were supposed to be required per ICU patient. Not sure if this has been refuted, but it would be good to know one way or the other.
Staff were rapidly retrained or recalled then sat around playing ludo.
What proportion of critical care beds occupied by COVID19 patients would you consider overwhelmed? Other patients require critical care too and it is a zero sum game. Critical care bed occupancy is always very high.
“Critical care bed occupancy is always very high.“
Not during lock down it wasn’t. That’s the point of the report. They were basically empty. No one else was allowed in.
All care homes people were not allowed into the hospitals and anyone over 70 was basically allowed to die in their bedrooms with no access to medical care.
Someone in Manchester was arrested and prosecuted for turning up at the hospital and filming that they were empty and showing up the farce for what it is
Many of the symptoms of ‘Long Covid’ could also be attributed to isolation, indoor urban living, depression and PTSD caused by government policies. They also seem to be particularly apparent in the sort of women who also ‘suffer’ from ‘ME’, ‘fibromyalgia’ and various other ‘syndromes’, mainly designated by strings of initials. They are the sort of women who, despite calling themselves feminists, think that if a man can’t or won’t support them to have a ridiculous number of children, for them to over protect and make as neurotic as themselves, the State should do it instead.
I think hard work, fresh air, exercise and the words, ‘it’s not actually about you’, would be the cure for most of them and would cost nothing.
It’s bizarre and indicative that it’s risky for even a woman to make this criticism today. Someone will be along momentarily to accuse you of internalised misogyny.
Tangentially, I’m expecting Liverpool to be an absolute hotbed of long Covid.
Racissssst !
I wouldn’t say “internalised misogyny” – I had to search for the term. But the attacks on people suffering from psychological manipulation by the government and media really are not helpful. I don’t expect you or Caroline to stop, I’m just saying they’re not helpful.
My feminism has always been about no rights without responsibilities. I have never apologised for that. If someone expects to be treated as a fully fledged adult, they have to behave like one, which means earning a living and taking responsibility for their own children.
However, I think it definitely needs to be recognised that much of ‘Long Covid’ is psychological and a result of living in this depressing, dystopian Limbo, and that many of us who probably haven’t had the virus are experiencing similar symptoms, particularly the brain fog and joint pain.
One third of CFS/ME cases are vaccine injury. The injury is to the nervous system and the immune system.
This was discovered by Prof,. Gherardi and Authier in research between 1998 and 2016, at Creteuil Hospital Paris.
The toxic agent is the aluminium adjuvant which travels to the brain inside macrophages (white blood cells) and causes brain inflammation.
The aluminium adjuvant at the vaccine injection site upregulates the immune system abnormally.so that it cannot mount a normal response to infection.
This research was closed down in 2016, despite the gravity of the findings and against the protests of the researchers.
The assumption that women with this condition are somatising demonstrates the triumph of the propaganda campaign of the last twenty years, mounted on behalf of the vaccine companies and enthusiastically promoted in the press.,
Electron micrographs of these white cells show the toxic aluminium sitting inside, and further research revealed them travelling into the brain.
Aluminium is neurotoxic, when tap water was used to clean blood in kidney dialysis patients, they died from neuropathy.
I’ve read that chlorella can help detox heavy metals, though how much it can do I am not sure…
Boraz, silica, there are several detoxing agents around, I am not an expert.
The best water for detoxing is Fiji Water (highest silica content) but very expensive. The second best is Volvic. Constant consumption of these waters leaches aluminium out of the brain and helps considerably with protection against Alzheimer’s Disease.
Mwah ha ha ha ! That’s why I am so sane – always Volvic. 🙂
Most people on this site are now experiencing the power of propaganda, but not focused against a small group of disabled people, but the entire population.
The reason I knew covid was shit from the start is because I have seen how propaganda was used against people with ME and also Gulf War syndrome, and I can spot the telltale signs.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013409001895
Here is a paper from Gherardi and Authier from 2009 (so this research is not new.)
Strange how no-one has heard of it, no action has ever been taken to protect the population, and how this vital research has been stopped.
Just hope you never get injected with this poison.
Interesting… where do the other 2/3 of CFS cases come from? I’m curious as I had a friend from university who developed it in her 30s, after turning vegetarian… She’s been unhealthy ever since.
There has never been any biomedical research into CFS/ME as such.
Once it became a common illness in young adults and children in the eighties and early nineties, effort was entirely focused on discrediting and stigmatising this group.
The Gherardi research only began because of chance findings, and the connection with CFS?ME came later. Once the researchers made public the links between vaccination and disease, the research was terminated.
The vital thing to take from this is:-
If you become vaccine injured, you will not be able to prove it because the research funding that might allow medics to reveal a link will never be released by the government, as they are puppets of industry.
Do not take the vaccine for coronavirus.
So, Carrie, if your friend has been ill for years, no-one can tell why, because no funding is given to look for real medical causes.
So no-one is to blame, and no-one can claim damages.
When we were researching it in the very early days, there seemed to be a link with polio epidemics, and it was refered to as non-paralytic polio.
Judy Mikovits recently claimed to have linked it to a retrovirus (so not polio then).
Whichever, the evidence points to it being viral, which wouldn’t preclude vaccination.
My ME symptoms were obviously central nervous system damage, besides the mitochondrial disfunction.
The evil Simon Wessely who, desperate to have psychology accepted as a “real” science, spent a lot of energy “proving” that ME was psychosomatic and did great harm with his CBT nonsense.
There will undoubtedly be genuine cases of long term problems but the government have deliberately made diagnosis open ended because high numbers support their agenda.
Yes. It’s definitely a new part of the fearmongering campaign.
“I don’t know anyone who’s been ill with covid, do you?”
“No but what about this long covid …….?!”
I have suffered from CF/fibromyalgia for 20 years probably due to the Larium I took during the time I had the energy to travel/exercise. I am not a “type of woman”. I get enough of this all in your mind crap from people who have no idea of the frustration of these conditions in my daily life, so I don’t need to be subjected to it here where I come for like minded sceptics. You are insensitive and insulting.
And dispute my pseudonym I am female.
Of that you left us in no doubt 🤣🤣🤣
Meaning?
The original post does strongly imply that you are a woman.
It probably does but my last few postings seem to take it I was male so I thought I would clarify. It’s actually my dog’s name. First thing this morning I saw the photo/ virtue screeching of a worker on the train taken by some Pratt and plastered over the daily mail, and then come onto this site to get some same input only to be pilloried for being a fibro victim. So I’m just a tad touchy.
Sane!!!
If it’s any consolation, I get discouraged by the posturing about how “a real sceptic doesn’t use a mask exemption card.” Tiresome and sets me off when it happens, so you’re annoyance is completely understandable in my book.
Try not to take it personally.
My mother who is 78 also complains about fibromyalgia.
Ah, thank you for being direct. As a woman in her 60s, I put up with decades of doctors telling me “it’s all in your head” and I didn’t suffer from CF or anything similar. Just added to my distrust of the medical profession.
It’s probably not a good idea not to conflate “long covid” with other conditions that people complain about.
My mother has fibromyalgia and it causes her considerable discomfort. She is quite a feisty woman, but I wouldn’t say she is a feminist. Mother of three.
I’ve had ME since the 1980s.
You might be right about some of the long covid people but some will genuinely have postviral syndrome. Please don’t start the smug Yuppie Flu accusations again because if you have the real thing, it’s no joke!
Thanks. I went from cycling 400 km a week and being a national level competitive athlete to not having ridden a bike for six months. It’s not for want of fresh air.
I agree with your first sentence. I don’t believe long covid is anything other than the same syndrome that some people who get viruses suffer. The second seems a bit odd, especially since I know men who suffer from the same “strings of initials”. Not that it matters, but I am a woman, a feminist, have no children, and avoid children and their parents like the plague (sic).
The discarded muzzles are becoming a health problem, ways of disposal are needed. If you put your used muzzle on a wet sponge in the window, you can grow cress on it.
Funny how people who are concerned about the environment are silent on this. As they have been consistently silent about littering in the past.
Yes, David Attenborough I’m looking at you.
We should campaign for a dedicated landfill site for muzzles, as if they work as well as we are told, they’ve got to be a bio hazard.
I’m amazed that no bio hazard bins have been provided. Its not just those single use muzzles that I’ve seen discarded but even cloth ones.
I get that, but wouldn’t biohazard bins just ramp up the fear even more?
A pile was burned by dancing Hassidim in NY, good to see.
I think they know this is all bollocks hence why there’s none of the bio hazard bins
Ah yes, David Attenborough, that well-known National Treason.
Agreed also – cuddly National Treasure or lying misanthropic b*st*rd? I know which I’d choose – Paul Homewood has had some splendid takedowns of Attenbollox’s fibs on notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com . . . Hiighly recommended.
The grandson was on R4 yesterday toadying to Royalty.
And Royalty toadying to Attenborough on ITV a few days ago.
The demo in Berlin tomorrow is a Silent March.
For it to be able to go ahead, participants need to wear a face covering. At the end, they are supposed to put them into large bins, to show how much rubbish gets generated.
That’s a good idea, actually. Silence is quite a strong statement.
Yup, perfectly happy to slaughter over 1/2 million sharks for the new (useless and dangerous) vaccine . . .
He has been very quiet in this period .
No use – I am exempt to this insanity, and hence do not have any masks/muzzles!
” I’ve got several silk masks to wear around the flat but as I don’t want them soiled by car emissions I only wear a paper one when I go out. Since it’s hardly been used I leave it on a bench for a homeless”
Daily Mash.
Irony, one suspects. 🙂
(Heh, originally thought this was from the Mail.)
it’s all over now baby blue
Tyranny is here to stay
They are destroying the past and you’ll have to live in their dystopian nightmare forever
Happy days eh?
There’s a very good book out there called ‘Enjoy The Decline’.
It’s admittedly somewhat nihilistic, but it’s more an appeal to the serenity prayer.
The thrust of the tome is that you should make yourself comfortable, pour a nice drink and enjoy the spectacle of the sheeple stampeding over the cliff in pursuit of ephemera, propaganda and fools gold.
No it’s not. There will be way too much resistance. People are slowly waking up – it will become an avalanche.
I’m afraid I don’t agree at all. Oh sure there’ll be grumbling, but what we ought to be seeing is an uprising on the scale of the miners’ strikes or the poll tax riots, and we won’t get it. I’d bet proper money on that.
The miners and the polltax rioters hadn’t been expertly propagandised and brainwashed to the extent of losing their minds.
Perhaps, but the polltax rioters hadn’t all just lost their jobs and probably their homes.
True. People do have less oomph when demoralised and skint.
Hi biker,
Do you think they are deliberately destroying the past by destroying our culture?
I have wondered why they are focusing on the arts so much.
I have always thought that this was an economic reset, and the destruction of the economy was to recapitalise the banks, so I could not understand why they also focused on orchestras, museums, etc.
I think that’s one thread of a multi-pronged assault, yes.
Probably not a reset at all. Destroying the economy to capitalise the banks is a logical fallacy. No economy, no banks, just barter subsistence.
The destruction of our culture has been going on for a very long time. I recalled recently a comment made by a colleague some 20 years ago now, part way through the Labour gov of Tony Blair, “The progressives and the globalists won’t be happy until we are all brown”. With subsequent mass, uncontrolled immigration, diversity and inclusion and other woke memes accelerating and gaining prominence I can’t but help think that he was right.
It’s all part of the long march through the institutions….They’re nearly finished.
The arts are gone. I’ve been playing and putting on gigs and clubs featuring a wide range of music and artists and never once had a penny from the arts council or whatever bullshit they call themselves. I’ve made money lost, money and broke even. I do it because i create stuff, my friends create stuff and other people create stuff and want an opportunity to play it live or display their art. They hate people like me but think nothing of giving millions to arsewipes who put on a play about clog dancing during the miners strike or some other shit that no one is interested in. They spend millions on so called art while real artists who do it all for the need to do it get nothing. Now i don’t want anything from them but i don’t want others thinking they are getting art because it’s on at a publicly funded event. It’s a disgrace. They shut down folk like me because we don’t need them and show back to them their shitty culture. Artists are always first to be censored.
That’s because true artists reflect what’s really going on and TPTB can’t afford that right now.
A while back Biker you listed some of the things we were prevented from doing, the nice things that made life worth living for people if not yourself.
Bell ringing, having a kick about down the park, house party, a whist drive, going Scouts, making and consuming live music in all its forms, getting pissed with friends and meeting new ones, all now forbidden.
Basically all we are permitted to do now is go to work, indeed we beg to be allowed to.
The Third Reich in the depths of its depravity killed off the old, the young and the weak before allowing the remainder to work themselves to death.
We are obviously not in that league but the thinking behind it is the same.
Easy targets.
Now there’s a cheery thought for a chilly autumn morning.
Life’s what you make it, Biker. Even amidst the clownshow that we are currently being subjected to.
We all have our bad days, I certainly do, but fatalistic language like this doesn’t really aid the anti lockdown cause.
Roll over and let Boris tickle your tummy if you want, Biker. Give in if you want to. That’s your choice. I can’t stop you.
There’s probably never been a time nor will there even be a time when freedom from tyranny is guaranteed.
It is important always to stand up for freedom and not become a victim.
If you think i’m giving in then you just don’t have got a clue. Sounds to me everything you types is how you feel. I’ve been here since day one saying i won’t do anything they say and i haven’t, never will. I will die with my boots on, don’t you worry about that
In the long run, tyranny has always failed. The short run, however, is rarely anything other than a nightmare. It seems it is our fate to live the nightmare, but keep sowing the seeds and one day they will reap the whirlwind. Keep yer grizzled chin up, mate, we’re still here!
What does everyone make of this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54470427
Two things.
1) Resistance is forming.
2) It’s already being infiltrated by the authorities.
That we all are being monitored on this site too.
Has anyone else noticed their phone or computer behaving oddly since coming onto this site?
Nope.
Nope. There’s nothing wrong with this site (well, the commenting system is a bit shit, but that’s WordPress for you).
Of course, Toby could always ask the guys who host the site (or a 3rd party) to run a security audit on it, but it would almost certainly confirm my view.
Phones and PCs change behaviour all the time and for a million different reasons, which cannot possibly be reasonably connected back to visiting here.
I totally agree!
Lockdown sceptics need always to be able to point to evidence.
Have you any evidence for this, or are you just speculating?
My phone and computer have been behaving oddly, yes.
As far as the computer goes, it could just be the latest bloody update from Microsoft.
Mine have been working perfectly. 🙂
However as they monitor everyone’s every word, the question is absurd.
try CCleaner
It would shameful not to be on their lists. 🙂
They stole that plotline from Spooks.
at end of article:
Last Friday, the state’s Supreme Court ruled that Mrs Whitmer did not have the legal authority to issue emergency executive orders and that that responsibility belonged to the state’s legislature.
Following the ruling, the attorney who argued the case before the top court advised citizens to “burn your masks”, which health officials say are necessary to prevent the spread of Covid-19.
Err, heil Whitmer. Coming soon to a city near us ?
Molotov cocktails and a taser ? When these dudes have access to excellent firearms ? Yeah right.
Just say no to Botox, the whole top of her head does not move, scary, that and the bright white teeth.
Don’t post your plans on social media. Use snail mail.
I suspect like a lot of people here, I’ve known something was up for a long time. Certainly since I saw videos of people falling dead in the street in China. Fully confirmed when I noticed that the BBC were putting horror film score over their “news” pieces.
So for me, I’ve not needed to have my mind changed. However, for all those people who have been conned by the narrative, it’s surely going to be a big leap to admit it to themselves. It’s hard to change someone’s world view and as I see it, that’s largely where our battle lies. I hate to quote a Bush, but it is a hearts and minds exercise.
So I guess my question is, who here has changed their tack on this? If you have, what was the thing that made you see clearly, brought lucidity? The psychology here is incredibly important as we all know.
I initially thought there might be some new virus that could be something to be concerned about (even though a source told me in January that HCQ was an effective treatment). As soon as Boris put the lockdown in place in March I knew there had to be another agenda. The so called remedy was obviously going to be orders of magnitude worse than the “disease”. The greatest mistake in history, as someone said.
When as a key worker out and about seeing ambulances driving around with their sirens blazing. They may or may not have been on emergencies but there was no need to have their sirens on because I was the only other vehicle in sight.
They were doing it to create a climate of fear.
Knew it was a psy-op from the start. I could barely believe so many people bought into the false narrative, but of course most people get their info from the MSM. I don’t watch TV. I DO read the papers online to keep up with what the ‘elite’ want us to know/do. I also red-pilled myself accidentally ten around 15 years ago, then went down the rabbit hole, so I’ve been mentally prepared for the biggie for a long time. I didn’t expect this to be their catalyst, though.
You know all that – I think we’re very much on the same page – and yet you still don’t think (per your response to Biker) that the game is lost and that there’ll be a meaningful and effective rebellion?
Puzzling.
The cynic in me asks “Shift change ?”. 🙂
Could be 🙂
Sounds like you’ve already given up. I will continue to fight this with every breath. I would feel too much shame just caving in and accepting what they want. I’m puzzled at your determination to sow despondency here.
This.
I heard of event 201 just after it happened and I knew The Corona Project was being launched and it was a scam and being used as The Global Reset,. However back then I thought it wouldn’t gain too much traction and that the people would see clearly it was a scam.. I am still shocked at how well the propaganda has worked.
I was also aware of how an impending global fascist dictatorship was being planned but I wondered how they would actually bring it about. Again I was shocked that they actually went for a fake global pandemic. So obvious, I thought they would never actually TRY it.
Johnson and his wretched “consocialist” cabal may find these ideas attractive, but I do not believe that he is under orders.
This rhetoric is paranoia. I find this narrative that you are promoting quite creepy.
It is alarming and frightening, JP. However it is where we are.
Okay, I understand the concerns, but my view is that Johnson and his cabinet are in charge.
There are undoubtedly suspect figures such as Gates who have some influence. It is impossible to say exactly how much influence they have though.
And, at the end of the day, Johnson (unfortunately) is still in charge of things here. In the UK the buck still stops with the British government.
Yes,the buck stops with them.
But the blame absolutely does not.
Yes it’s creepy. This narrative has been creeping me out since 1998 at least. It’s real. It’s just that it’s too creepy for most people to take on board as it overturns just about everything you have been told about “how things are”.
Honestly john P, I am an expert in the world of “conspiracy stuff” I literally could study it at degree level and get a Phd. I have never believed a word I hear from official channels. It’s all lies. Johnson is not in control of anything.
Dodgy films of people ‘dropping dead’ but yet putting their arms out as they fell 😉
Spotted it early thanks to Bhakdi, Wodarg and Wittkowski. Put a little money into corona.film. Took me longer to spot what a complete tool the inverted pyramid of de Pfeffel is.
I was originally getting all my info from the beeb and the grad, so bought into the whole thing for the first couple of weeks of mockdown. Then I started to see how totally OTT it all was. The ads on the beeb reminded me of the fake measles scare in the early 90s. It was also very obvious how irrational the advice was. I was lucky to be pointed to Hector Drummond’s site – ironically by a grad commenter, who deserves a medal. Also in the grad comments, I soon discovered OffG and from there arrived here. I still skim the grad headlines because I find it’s the quickest way to see what’s in the official wind that day. There’s a very noticeable absence of room to comment there nowadays! I got suckered into subscribing to the DT (NEVER thought I’d ever say that!) just so I can follow Toby’s links. The comments there are becoming very encouraging and the fact that the trolls are obviously sent there in force shows that the truth is sneaking out. BTL here though has been the most valuable source of info and I’m very grateful for this resource and for everyone’s input.… Read more »
The grad??
The guardian,
I was worried to start with. I have had fairly severe hypochondriac episodes and some physical health issues that may make me vulnerable, and I worry a lot about death. All of this pushed to me try and find out more about the virus, and the more I looked into it the more I started to realise it was a huge overreaction.
When will those making dire predictions about a “second wave” lose their jobs and reputations when those predictions are shown to be false? Witty for one must be drinking in the last chance saloon.
(Rhetorical question, obvs.)
🙁 it’s all just down to self-definition isn’t it. Numbers go up – it’s our fault for not following the rules closely enough. Numbers go down – it’s because we followed their rules. Numbers not showing what you want – just pick some new numbers!
In some countries healthcare workers are permitted to return to work if testing positive above 35 cycles of a PCR test.
https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1160&context=jri
In March 2020 NHS England set the covid 19 PCR positive test cycle threshold at 40 so even a Mango Milkshake would test positive. The rest is history, still being made but not in a good way….
Page 8: https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/03/guidance-and-sop-covid-19-virus-testing-in-nhs-laboratories-v1.pdf
We are, again, locking down millions of people, who, elsewhere would be allowed, quite correctly, to work, unmasked, in hospitals
This is not a conspiracy, it is the incompetence of ‘big state’ so brilliantly skewered by the film ‘Chernobyl’
Britain, today, is a democratic socialist ‘big state’ country by any measure that you wish to use, and now we are paying the price for that………
Johnson is on record moaning about Big State many times
The proof of the pudding……..
And, if anyone is in a Big State, it is him (though he claims to have lost 26 pounds – but how many has he put on again?)!
The b*stard doth protest too much, methinks.
Thanks for that official document. This official guidance appears to state (on Page 21) that 45 cycles are undertaken. It also says that a positive result at or above 40 cycles, requires the following:- “Results where: •the Ct value is ≥40 and/or•there is an abnormal assay curve and/or•the clinical context makes the positive result highly unexpected should be considered interim or held until reviewed by a laboratory clinician. Laboratories will undertake the following actions:•defer telephoning the uncertain result to the clinician looking after the patient (or telephoning it with the clear caveat of uncertainty)•re-extract the original sample and repeat the PCR in the original and new extract in duplicate•perform testing on a further respiratory sample (or samples) from the same patient•confirmwith an alternative, equivalent sensitivity assay locally or,where none is available, forward the sample to Colindale•regularlyreview theperformance of reagents, particularly control materials.The actions taken should be expedited to minimise the delay in obtaining a definitive result for the patient. Only confirmed results are expected to be notified to public health and other stakeholders.” My bolding. So that means only a positive at 35 or below should be automatically considered a positive. Anything at 40 or above must be followed by… Read more »
Page 21 is for a non commercial test
Page 8 is for a commercially available test kit and quite clearly states a 40 cycle threshold
‘Where Ct values are below an agreed value (based on analysis of proficiency testing performance and other local testing data) with satisfactory quality control parameters, including internal control performance, the result is considered valid and should be telephoned and a report issued as a final result. Any such positive result will be recorded as ‘confirmed’ for public health reporting purposes and will be notifiable under recent legislation. Results where: • the Ct value is ≥ 40 and/or • there is an abnormal assay curve and/or • the clinical context makes the positive result highly unexpected should be considered interim or held until reviewed by a laboratory clinician.’
Thank you Tim and Kevin.
I’ve cobbled bits together from your posts and used them for a letter to my MP.
He’s very good at answering quickly, so we’ll see what sort of response I get.
Probably “I don’t know, would you like me to ask on your behalf? Replies take up to 8 weeks ….”
Still, hopefully it will make him think and question the narrative a tiny bit.
I wonder how many cycles it takes in order to be released from house arrest in Italy?!
Chernobyl should be compulsory viewing, under the auspices of “be careful what you wish for.”
from the telegraph. ‘Professor Jane Eddleston, an intensive care consultant at Manchester Royal Infirmary, said Covid patients coming into hospitals rose from eight to 32 per day in the last five weeks and they occupy 30 per cent of critical care beds.
“This has translated through to a rise in admissions to critical care – we’ve gone from about three admissions a day at the beginning of September up to where we are now, which is just short of seven admissions a day,” she said.’ What is just short of 7? 6? Always twisting the figures for the worst possible meaning
Averaging the numbers. Higher than 6, lower than 7.
At least the DM yesterday also reported alongside that, that “more than 150 trusts are now seeing one or no patients per day”, and reported that:
“A vast majority of NHS trusts – 153 out of 206 – admitted an average of one or no patients per day during that period, showing that a small number of hospitals are making up almost all of the rise in patients……The most recent point shows that 1.82 per cent of beds are taken up with people by coronavirus”
How close to the edge is the NHS? Hospitals in Blackpool are admitting up to 60% as many Covid-19 patients as they were in the spring… but more than 150 trusts are now seeing one or no patients per day
An average of one or no patients is not really an average..
It might mean 0.1 of a patient for example.
One suspects that in the ‘hotspots,’ door-to-door testing is taking place, and that anyone with the slightest symptom is advised to report to hospital. And that even an outpatient hospital attendance is perhaps then recorded as a hospital admission.
Obviously, I don’t know this to be the case, but it sets me wondering…
“An average of one or no patients is not really an average..”
I suspect they just didn’t want to be accused of perpetrating the stylistic offence of referring to a fraction of a person.
Assuming they mean the average is for an individual trust over a period of days that means some have an average of 0 per day others an average of 1. The question is how do you get an average of 0? Do they have negative patients some days or are they just trying to avoid saying they haven’t had any patients for ages?
My ex- DiL has had flu symptoms all week. Just got positive covid test result back. Her whole family is locked down in a small house now, poor things.
Great. Some balance creeping into the MSM at last!
and broken legs, diy accidents , ingrowing toenail ops. anything.
So it is not just respiratory admissions. It is any admission who has shown as positive on the routine and compulsory covid test on admission is classed as a covid admission
3/8 = almost half go critical care
6/32 = less than one fifth.
….to build up their DNA database of the entire population, which is worth BILLIONS when sold..
I saw sth on German media that 60.3 people tested positive. 0.3??
Grant Shapps?
How long do they stay? How many are discharged each day?
Meaningless scaremongering!
All at 45 cycles?!
The best news of the day.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/did-who-just-accidentally-confirm-covid-no-more-dangerous-flu
It’s the OffGuardian article from a couple of days. Should be headline news everywhere.
Trumpy should find that a handy weapon against twitter
And that’s even with exagerrated attributions.
Skewered themselves really – if you create a false casedemic, naturally that then leads to a very low IFR. Even if you do also pretend that lots of people are dying from covid when it’s really another cause of death.
Thank you.
Have sent this to my useless Guildford MP with the question: ‘Why are you not questioning the government on this?’
Should we not be emphasising Hancock’s stated preference for more cancer deaths as long as we ‘beat’ covid? And Sunak’s apalling attack on the whole arts and entertainment sector? On the latter, from a friend Cath Carter on Facebook – she is a professional musician in Liverpool. : So Rishi Sunak, our filthy rich, stuck up, horrible, arrogant piece of sh*t chancellor, who inherited his own personal fortune by marrying a billionaire, has today announced that everyone in not just the music industry, but all things arts and culture related, should now take up an ‘opportunity’ to retrain for another career because everything in the arts is not a viable industry for the future….so the tens of thousands of people who have worked in the arts all of their lives, who simply cannot work at the moment because of Government policy, are gonna be made redundant….they’ve basically thrown everything that the country prides itself on, creativity, under the bus!! This government is now taking music out of education too so where will the next generations of musicians come from to entertain and why would anyone want to now become a musician or actor etc if there’s no platform or career… Read more »
As an audience member, I don’t know when I’ll ever get to see a live show of any type again and I an heartbroken. My soul is in tatters and I know that the PTB have no heart or soul.
Exactly, I was looking forward to seeing one of my favourite guitarists at The Sage in Gateshead in January. No chance of that now.
Well, the majority of them do little it seems
This emergency has really shown how incapable of independent thought or research they are.
Cath should post that to the Daily Telegraph.
The problem is the arts’ solution seems to be ‘give us money’ rather than ‘let us open as normal’. Hope they’re all signing the Barrington Declaration for example.
As an ageing artist and musician , I am outraged and off the scale with anger at this.Our arts and cultural history is one of the main reasons the world comes here, what an absolute travesty this period is.What kind of a souless future do these monsters foresee for fucks sake!
Its worrying that this could be curtains for the performing arts however they’re not helping themselves by demanding more money from the state. Why are they not campaigning to end lockdown, social distancing and masks? Van Morrison is doing all those why are they not joining forces with him?
Van has always had a deeply spiritual side, despite his curmudgeonly side.
I worked throughout the lockdown in an office with the boss only as my co-workers were too scared to share an office. I’ve maintained my stance from the very start that I will not wear a mask in any circumstances, I’ve made that abundantly clear. I thought that compulsory masks in offices would not fly because that would finally piss off too many people and piss off too many middle class people, if they force masks on office workers too then maybe that’s the tipping point
No the sheeple will love it.
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1008/1170369-archbishops/
The Catholic Church in Ireland has finally snapped – they are calling for religious services to resume.
I wonder what the effect of Messrs Martin telling Mr. Martin to reopen will have (note to readers – two of the four archbishops have the surname Martin as does the Taoiseach! AFAIK none of the three men are related to each other).
It has to be pretty serious for the spineless wet blobs that now pass for bishops in Ireland to have had enough.
7 months without abusing kids, somethings gonna give!
Or so they claim …
The Lancet piece, that basically confirms that a vaccine will not end the covid problem and “interventions that have been in use since early in the pandemic, most crucially physical distancing and hand hygiene, must continue indefinitely“, tells us that one of the world’s major problems is the public health community itself. It’s attitudes are profoundly misguided, and dangerous when allowed to influence government policy and reinforced with the manipulative powers now at government’s disposal, via a compliant media and big tech establishment, and a gullible and viciously intolerant social media. This is reinforced by Toby’s discussion of the poisonous Devi Sridhar’s background and attitudes. I am reminded of a couple of recent references to this problem. Professor Dingwall (the NERVTAG member who revealed that the government made up the 2m rule because they thought “people are too stupid to understand 1m”) writes: “we have found ourselves in the hands of a scientific and medical elite with limited understanding of humanity and its needs.” That chimes with the opinion of the doctor who wrote a letter to the Telegraph recently, quoted recently here : “SIR – The vast majority of students who graduate from medical school pursue careers that use… Read more »
Agree. I’ve overheard a gaggle of women in the twenties/thirties sounding like they’re in a real life version of Big Brother.
Oh the irony!
Bazalgette’s illustrious forebear solved London’s sewage problem only for him to reverse the flow.
For a more realistic comparison between the Unbalanced non-prediction and reality we need a graph of the data had daily number of tests remained the same as the day of the unbalanced & Twatty show. This would be easy to do by applying the % positives to total tests each day to the number of tests on the day of the non-prediction graph.
(I already know the PCR test is not fit for the current purpose)
You see, as Will writes above, I have been totally right to smell a rat anytime Devi’s name is mentioned. So if it’s okay with all I will continue adding my personal thoughts and found evidences on the subject. The good news is Devi does not do personally well with sustain critism. She is very fragile and has little development of tolerance of others. She has twitter bots pump praise and thanks into her twitter time line. Yesterday I posted that in 2017 Devi and Chelsea Clinton set down five key principles for the then incoming Director General of WHO. She is a dangerous infivudual in my view. Who is she – who gives her thhese roles? More importantly what is her motivation to espouse such strange and weird ‘science’ In a profiling series of question for Edinburgh University (I believe) Devi answered that her perfect dinner party guests woukd be Steve Job, Bill Gates and one other I forget now. She has tge hallmarks of a very dangerous useful idiot – her own ego manipulated to have her trot out required lines in any given direction. She is not a clever person, so who is calling her shots, who… Read more »
Does she have a husband? Her Wiki page suggests ‘clean skin’ – so little known about her family background, specifically her parents. It is not a plausible argument that someone so young, with a 2-year pre-clinical degree from a very minor US med school would get a Rhodes Scholarship. Nor does she have the intellect of a Rhodes Scholar – and I know a few.
Apparently yes and one child. Source for this is the Edinburgh University profile I mentioned. I’ll have a look to see if I can find it again.
In the mean time, this week tedros and devi were had a twitter exchange that as some one put it was vomit vomit vomit, sicophantic praise by both.
Here now is Tedros and Gates conflating covid19 with climate change – the control of the population is their goal.
https://twitter.com/Simmasongb/status/1314303736752283656?s=20
Helen your comment yesterday was excellent great this and that, go back and look, I suggested yesterdays comment shoukd be made a few more times – the link you gave is crucial imo. Keep up the good work!
I think my great comment comment may have caused you annoyance – I was merely joining in with the great increase of the word great!
I don’t think you annoyed people so much as, a point Matt (another LS) made .. paraphrased..that its not possible for people to make the BIG step into (previous) conspiracy theory territory..I do not hold this against anyone I fully understand their reluctance.
I will keep on keeping on and have reposted.. thanks for your support Basics
Link above again
Of Daniel Korski – “His entry into military intelligence at such a young age suggests he was recruited by an intelligence agency before attending university. He would start studying for his first degree later than most, at the age of 20, leaving us with a small two year gap in his timeline. “
From your link
“Described as a “Foreign Policy Writer” and a “Post Conflict Expert”, Daniel Korski is currently only in his early forties and yet his experience is vast. How does one get the opportunities which have been afforded to Mr Korski? Do you need to be a member of a special club from a very young age? Everything about Korski points to military intelligence, so to find him on the same advisory board as a Mossad-linked Epstein associate isn’t too much of a shock, but it does deserve further scrutiny. ”
This puts him as a contemporary of Sridhar’s – the same generation.
Health Advisory Board connections to Sridhar woukd be useful to know, is she the globalist plug-in to that apparatus?
I’m on to it. Thanks
Cambridge graduate. Were the pair their at the same time? Han counter narcotics in Afganistan – so he’s a failure then. From the link above and relevant to the aclcohol banned devi has over seen: “Alcohol Monitoring Systems Inc. was founded in Colorado by Michael Leonard Iiams among others. Iiams would go on to be a very successful President and CEO of Alcohol Monitoring Systems/SCRAM for almost 20 years. His name would also be on the patent as one of the inventors of the SCRAM Systems Bracelet, a useful technology designed specifically for use by professional law enforcement. America has a well-developed law enforcement technologies industry and it also has plenty of problem drinkers. Police departments all over the country are equipped with some of the most state-of-the-art equipment available. One of the first successful forms of police technology to be widely adopted by many states was an alcohol detection system, which was used to track problematic drinkers who would commit offences while under the influence. This system was a simple tool in dealing with crimes related to alcohol abuse” […] “Today, this technology has developed into a multifaceted tracking bracelet that allows officers to monitor suspects via a tablet… Read more »
Oh thanks …I am going to put all your research together ..”great”
Trying to compile all your ‘great’ research please could you send me a link to this info above beginning so:-
Cambridge graduate. Were the pair their at the same time?
Han counter narcotics in Afganistan – so he’s a failure then.
I will post my zusammenfasten here when its done so keep an eye out Basics. This research will be sent to a certain Stiftung.. if you wish to get involved they need reliable experienced researchers
The NHS Healthtech Advisory Board
Daniel Korski is a CBE.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/health-technology-expert-panel-meets-for-the-first-time
The list of advisors and board members may ring bells for others.
Sir Mark Walport is a former Govt Chief Scientific Officer.
He is a former Director of the Wellcome Trust.
Think he was succeeded at Wellcome by Jeremy Farrah.
He is a member of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Blockchain.
The APPG is sponsored by the “Big Innovation Centre” and Crapita, among others.
GSK partners with the Big Innovation Centre.
And he is on SAGE. And regularly puts out scaremania to the press.
Such as:-
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-uk-covid-spread-cases-deaths-mark-walport-latest-b429942.html
Yes, we read this article a few days ago and it’s excellent. Thanks for your various posts about the WEF and the Great Reset. Our daughter’s partner who a few months ago told us that Bill Gates is a kindly philanthropist has recently given us ‘Humankind’ to read as he thinks it’s brilliant.
For some reason or other we were deeply suspicious of it and we haven’t looked at it yet. Then I followed your link to the WEF and there it was, recommended. Bingo!
The awful thing is, our daughter is very clear-sighted about most of all this, mostly because she works with very poor people, and she generally does ‘get’ politics but imagine having to live with him; it must be a strain. In fairness, he’s otherwise a nice guy but it’s a bugger. MW
Here you go, here’s the intel on her married status.
https://twitter.com/andyoval/status/1314173484298391552?s=20
I bet she goes to Davos.
A conversation in the pub with a friend last night has got me thinking. We have a problem with our argument. “I know you’ve spent a lot of time looking into this, but there must be loads of evidence that disagrees with you as well.” Now, the simple fact is, that there isn’t. Beyond the unsubstantiated rantings of people like the WHO, Fauci, Whitty and Sridhar, there is simply nothing out there that demonstrated that anything out of the ordinary is happening in health terms. Most countries in the northern hemisphere experienced a not insignificant – but also unremarkable – increase in deaths around March and April. Even more interestingly, most countries in the Southern Hemisphere have not seen a similar effect, either at the same time or in their spring/our autumn (so far). I cannot find a single piece of evidence, or a single academic study that demonstrates that the novel coronavirus is justifiably an abnormally significant public health concern. Genuine plea – if someone can point me to some, I would appreciate it. The pro lockdown argument rests on the creed that there is an unusually deadly virus in circulation and it doesn’t need to prove it, because… Read more »
But true nevertheless.
Cos you say so ? C’mon matt, that’s just abuse.
The justification is the ‘great’ reset. Which they have been, and continue to be, quite open about.
I think you’ve misunderstood. I’m not actually saying that we’re not right, I’m just pointing out that, to anyone who hasn’t actually paid attention to the actual data so far, the facts of the matter are so completely at odds with what’s been done, that it must be nearly impossible to believe them. I’m not saying that we’ve lost our minds, I’m saying that I suddenly realised why people must think that we have.
Fair enough. An almost exact parallel to how those of us deemed conspiracy theorists for a few decades have felt. 🙂
Remarkable times require remarkable explanations, I suppose. Though in the end they become banal, in the “banality of evil” sense, when you recognise the emotional incontinence, functional stupidity and petty, cynical self-interest that provide the motivations for so many of the big players.
Doesn’t remove the force of your point, which is basically that people are reluctant to accept the truth because of its significant ramifications for their world view and their personal sense of security in submission to authority.
Banality of evil: Hancock
Leonard Cohen: Selected Poems 1956-1968
I don’t think it is the “unusually deadly” part that is contentious (although morbidity has not been studied widely) – I think it is the absence of protective options beyond avoidance that is the issue. The April-May UK deaths pattern is larger than any influenza epidemic in living memory. With the extreme intervention of contact avoidance. This pattern is out of the ordinary and replicated in mortality patterns in all countries that report data. The degree to which one can balance contacts, protection, testing, education and employment is the billion pound question. The role immunity may play just pours more fuel on the fire.
“If you thought that Science was certain – well that’s just an error on your part” Richard Feynman
Muzzle Wearing Pet Peeve #94:
Two days ago I went on a guerilla visit to the National Gallery to see the Artemesia exhibition. Had no problems whatsoever despite my unmuzzled state and I noticed that the staff responded positively to me being the only bare face in the exhibition.
Great exhibition – well curated and succeeded in showing Artemesia the artist and not Artemesia the victim.
Did not get any dirty looks from the others, in fact one woman who was struggling with her muzzle saw me and discreetly pulled hers down to expose her nose. Obviously not brave enough to remove it but must have thought it was OK not to wear it properly.
What really annoyed me were these two 30 something women talking, rather, mumbling loudly throughout due to them being muzzled. Every time they were near me, I would give them a look and move a bit away to avoid listening to any of their inane mumbling.
Eventually they got the hint and left after 10 minutes.