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10pm Curfew? Time For Bed, Prime Minister
Our hopeless, busted flush of a Prime Minister is going to announce today that pubs and restaurants will have to close by 10pm from Thursday, with table-only service for the foreseeable future. Exceptions to the “rule of six” for weddings and funerals will be eliminated, too. Needless to say, this is to fend off a wholly imaginary “second wave”. The Mail does its best to relay Downing Street’s spin on this nonsense, although its heart isn’t in it.
In July, Mr Johnson urged staff to “go back to work if you can” in a bid to prevent city centres becoming ghost towns.
But a source told the Mail that employees will be advised to “work from home if you can” during the coming weeks.
The restrictions have divided the Cabinet, with Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Business Secretary Alok Sharma both warning about the potential impact on the economy. But a senior Government source insisted all ministers accepted the move was needed to bring the R-rate, which measures how fast the disease is spreading, back under control.
“The aim is to cause maximum damage to the R and minimal damage to the economy,” the source said. “Unless we act now, there will be greater economic damage later on.”
Businesses and schools will be allowed to stay open, with Government sources insisting the measures do not amount to a second lockdown.
The Two Ronnies of Doom
Richard Littlejohn has a cracking piece in the Mail about Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance’s apocalyptic press conference.
Sitting 6ft apart behind a newsreader-style desk, The Two Ronnies of Doom delivered an alarmist prognosis of a rising death toll, backed up by speculative graphs based on ‘the science’ — what most of us would call ‘guesswork’.
They could have looked at another graph, from Monday’s Daily Mail, which showed that cancer kills around 450 people a day, compared to just 21 from – or should that be with? – coronavirus.
Five people die daily in traffic accidents. In fact, for those under 50, you’re more likely to be hit by a bus than contract a fatal dose of Covid.
But using the Government’s better-safe-than-sorry approach to the corona pandemic, that would be enough to justify closing every road in Britain.
Hang on. Come to think of it, that’s exactly what they are doing.
During Monday’s dismal YOU’RE ALL GOING TO DIE! diatribe, Vallance and Whitty even managed to invert the language, talking about Britain ‘turning the corner’ – and not in a good way. When normal folk speak of turning the corner, it usually means things are getting better.
Worth reading in full.
Many people have ridiculed Whitty and Valance’s prognosis – 49,000 new cases a day by October 13th if cases continue to double every seven days, not least because the killer graph the Two Ronnies used to illustrate this risk showed cases declining in the last seven days.
If cases haven’t doubled between September 9th and 15th, given that the “rule of six” was only introduced on the 14th, why should we believe they’ll start doubling from now on? And, of course, the lion’s share of the new blue cases – the actual cases – are based on Pillar 2 community testing carried out by PHE, so ~91% of them will be false positives.
Sir Patrick Vallance said that if cases do climb to 49,000 on October 13th we could expect to see 200 people a day dying from Covid in November. Sounds grim, right? But hang on a minute. That’s a case fatality rate of 0.4%. Given that the CFR is usually 10 times higher than the infection fatality rate, that’s an IFR of 0.04% – or less than half that of seasonal flu.
Remind me why we need a second lockdown for at least six months, Chief Science Officer?
Sir Patrick pointed to rising cases in Spain to illustrate the danger, claiming we were lagging Spain by a couple of weeks. But cases in Spain aren’t actually rising, according to Carl Heneghan, Jason Oke and Tom Jefferson, who produced a quick response to the press conference.
In a press briefing today Professors Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance showed epidemic curves for Spain and France – demonstrating how cases numbers have been growing rapidly, possibly exponentially, since August. As is often done when using case numbers by publishing date, the raw numbers are smoothed with a seven-day moving average. Drawn this way, the data shows a continued upward trend.
But drawing the epidemic curve for Spain using cases by symptom onset produces a different result. We have put these two methods together on a single graph so that they can be compared:
The epidemic curve based on the symptom onset date does not show the same continued growth – it appears to show cases stalling in late August.
Everyone I know is completely baffled by the smoke-and-mirrors press conference conducted by Whitty and Valance – and, of course, they refused to take any questions so no journalist was permitted to interrogate their data. Do they believe the nonsense they’re peddling or have they been put up to it by the Triumvirate? 49,000 cases a day would put the UK right at the top of the list of world’s countries affected by COVID-19. David Paton, Professor of Industrial Economics at Nottingham University Businesses School, told the Telegraph he would “take a dim view” if his students presented similar data.
So what’s going on? Why have they embarrassed themselves in the way?
If they’re just stooges for Caesar, Pompey and Crassus (Boris, Dom and Gove), what’s their agenda? Why does a Tory Government want to completely destroy the British economy – predicted to lose £250 million a day while the 10pm curfew remains in place? Won’t that just propel Mr Woodentop into Downing Street?
Even senior politicians are perplexed. An ex-Minister WhatsApped me yesterday evening:
What am I missing here? I seem to be in a parallel universe. Deaths are in single digits. So what if young people are getting it? That’s good. They then become immune. All we have to make sure is they keep away from old people. We can’t shut down the f***ing country again on a false analysis of the problem. In March and April cases were high and deaths were high. In September cases are high but deaths are low. I don’t understand the hysteria in Govt at the moment. They aren’t stupid. They can see the same as me. I really don’t get it.
My best guess is that the Triumvirate know, in their heart of hearts, that they made a colossal cock-up in March and are desperately clinging to Neil Ferguson’s doom-laden prognosis as the rationale for all the terrible damage they’ve done. Rather than admit they got it wrong, they have to remain faithful to their original hypothesis which, if you follow Ferguson’s logic, means we’ve only succeeded in postponing the apocalypse, not averting it. So if we don’t lock down again and “protect the NHS” – i.e. turn it into a Covid-only service again – the Government will be buried under half a million corpses. No, the restrictions must continue until we have a vaccine.
“They are running around like headless chickens, seemingly fearful of being blamed for killing people,” said one veteran Tory MP, quoted in the Telegraph.
Brutus, it’s time to start sharpening your knife.
What’s Really Happening to Cases?
A numerate reader has done some number crunching based on PHE’s weekly data and discovered that in most parts of England cases have fallen in the past week.
Meanwhile, in Sweden…
Sebastian Rushworth, who’s been working as an emergency physician in Sweden, has written an interesting blog post about what it’s like working on the front line in Stockholm. Answer: it’s an absolute breeze. This is a follow-up to a piece he wrote in August, in which he speculated about whether Sweden had achieved herd immunity.
In my earlier article in August, I mentioned that after an initial peak that lasted for a month or so, from March to April, visits to the Emergency Room due to covid had been declining continuously, and deaths in Sweden had dropped from over 100 a day at the peak in April, to around five per day in August.
At the point in August when I wrote that article, I hadn’t seen a single covid patient in over a month. I speculated that Sweden had developed herd immunity, since the huge and continuous drop was happening in spite of the fact that Sweden wasn’t really taking any serious measures to prevent spread of the infection.
So, how have things developed in the six weeks since that first article?
Well, as things stand now, I haven’t seen a single covid patient in the Emergency Room in over two and a half months. People have continued to become ever more relaxed in their behaviour, which is noticeable in increasing volumes in the Emergency Room. At the peak of the pandemic in April, I was seeing about half as many patients per shift as usual, probably because lots of people were afraid to go the ER for fear of catching covid. Now volumes are back to normal.
When I sit in the tube on the way to and from work, it is packed with people. Maybe one in a hundred people is choosing to wear a face mask in public. In Stockholm, life is largely back to normal. If you look at the front pages of the tabloids, on many days there isn’t a single mention of covid anywhere. As I write this (19th September 2020) the front pages of the two main tabloids have big spreads about arthritis and pensions. Apparently arthritis and pensions are currently more exciting than COVID-19 in Sweden.
In spite of this relaxed attitude, the death rate has continued to drop. When I wrote the first article, I wrote that covid had killed under 6,000 people. How many people have died now, six weeks later? Actually, we’re still at under 6,000 deaths. On average, one to two people per day are dying of covid in Sweden at present, and that number continues to drop.
In the hospital where I work, there isn’t a single person currently being treated for covid. In fact, in the whole of Stockholm, a county with 2,4 million inhabitants, there are currently only 28 people being treated for covid in all the hospitals combined. At the peak, in April, that number was over 1,000. If 28 people are currently in hospital, out of 2,4 million who live in Stockholm, that means the odds of having a case of covid so severe that it requires in-hospital treatment are at the moment about one in 86,000.
Oh Boris! If only you’d had the courage to follow your instincts!
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: The Swiss Doctor has compiled some data about Covid in Belarus. In spite of the fact that it was the least locked down country in Europe – even less locked down than Sweden – it has had a grand total of 785 deaths to date. Can this official death toll be trusted? Probably not, but all-cause mortality figures show that deaths are about three times higher than the official data – no worse than a bad bout of seasonal flu.
Sensible Scientists Write to Boris Urging Rethink
A group of sensible medical experts led by Prof Sunetra Gupta, Prof Carl Heneghan and Prof Karol Sikora have written an open letter to Boris urging him to rethink his Covid strategy. (Does he have one? Who knew!)
Dear Prime Minister,
We are writing with the intention of providing constructive input into the choices with respect to the COVID-19 policy response. We also have several concerns regarding aspects of the existing policy choices that we wish to draw attention to.
In summary, our view is that the existing policy path is inconsistent with the known risk-profile of COVID-19 and should be reconsidered. The unstated objective currently appears to be one of suppression of the virus, until such a time that a vaccine can be deployed. This objective is increasingly unfeasible (notwithstanding our more specific concerns regarding existing policies) and is leading to significant harm across all age groups, which likely offsets any benefits.
Instead, more targeted measures that protect the most vulnerable from Covid, whilst not adversely impacting those not at risk, are more supportable. Given the high proportion of Covid deaths in care homes, these should be a priority. Such targeted measures should be explored as a matter of urgency, as the logical cornerstone of our future strategy.
In addition to this overarching point, we append a set of concerns regarding the existing policy choices, which we hope will be received in the spirit in which they are intended. We are mindful that the current circumstances are challenging, and that all policy decisions are difficult ones. Moreover, many people have sadly lost loved ones to COVID-19 throughout the UK. Nonetheless, the current debate appears unhelpfully polarised around views that Covid is extremely deadly to all (and that large-scale policy interventions are effective); and on the other hand, those who believe Covid poses no risk at all. In light of this, and in order to make choices that increase our prospects of achieving better outcomes in future, we think now is the right time to ‘step back’ and fundamentally reconsider the path forward.
The list of signatories is impressive. You can read the letter and see the full list in the Spectator.
Round-Up
- “Matt Hancock: Obstinate or Innumerate?” – I reworked one of my blog posts on Lockdown Sceptics for the Critic
- “Whitty and Vallance’s attempt to dress down the lockdown sceptics was unconvincing” – Janet Daley wasn’t convinced by the Two Ronnies
- “A ‘circuit-breaker’ lockdown is no strategy at all” – Ross Clark on fine form in the Telegraph
- “We can beat Covid without lockdowns, says top German virologist” – Hendrik Streeck has some advice for countries contemplating a second lockdown: hold your nerve, and don’t succumb to the pervasive mood of mass hysteria
- “Lockdown is too extreme if the second wave is set to be no more deadly than winter flu” – Patrick O’Flynn says Boris needs to show some leadership. Some hope
- “REVERSAL: CDC Removes Guidelines Saying Coronavirus Can Spread From Tiny Air Particles” – Good news from across the pond
- “Spain deploys army to Madrid to help enforce lockdown” – Is this the next arrow in Matt Hancock’s quiver?
- “Daily ‘moonshot’ tests for COVID-19 will not be given out by NHS – the public will have to pay” – Dido Harding says the tests should be seen as a “cost of doing business” for people who want to attend conferences or go to the theatre. Is she really earmarked to succeed Simon Stevens?
- “Supermarkets warn public against another spate of panic buying” – Supermarket bosses have warned the public against embarking on another spate of panic buying, according to the Grocer
- “Boris Goes Full Fascist Against Lockdown Protests – But Not BLM or XR” – Delingpole lets rip in Breitbart
- “We Need a Radically Different Approach to the Pandemic and Our Economy as a Whole” – Interesting piece in Jacobin, based on interviews with Katherine Yih and Martin Martin Kulldorff, two sceptical public health experts, in which the left-wing magazine comes out against shut downs
- “Is it time we learned to live with the virus?” – Has Nick Triggle, the BBC’s Health Correspondent, finally seen the light?
- “James Ferguson: How bad data is driving fear of a second wave of COVID-19” – Listen to Lockdown Sceptics contributor talking to my old mate Merryn Somerset Webb in the Money Week podcast
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Three today: “Long Slow Suicide” by the Divine Comedy, “Masked Hysteria” by BeastTheButcher and “Why?” by Bronski Beat.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. But today we thought we’d tell you about an antidote to woke virtue-signalling – QPR’s decision not to take a knee at last Friday’s 12.45pm fixture against Coventry. Or rather, we thought we’d let Les Ferdinand, QPR’s Director of Football, tell you.
The taking of the knee has reached a point of ‘good PR’ but little more than that. The message has been lost. It is now not dissimilar to a fancy hashtag or a nice pin badge.
What are our plans with this? Will people be happy for players to take the knee for the next 10 years but see no actual progress made? Taking the knee will not bring about change in the game – actions will.
You tell ’em Les. Is it too much too hope that this rare injection of common sense into the national debate on how best to tackle racism will put an end to the absurd displays of BLM fealty in the Premier League?
The Guardian has more.
Stop Press: Free Speech Union Advisory Council member Doug Stokes, Professor of International Relations at the University of Exeter, has a terrific piece in Conservative Home on why the Conservative Government needs to stop standing on the sidelines in the culture war.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here. (And while you’re about it, sign this one, too, calling for the repeal of the Coronavirus Act.)
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Stop Press: London Mayor Sadiq Khan is pushing for face masks to be work in all public spaces in London, not just shops, according to the Mail. Remind me who elected this clown? That’s right, nobody did. His term of office expired on April 20th this year.
The Care Home Scandal – A Call For Evidence
Lockdown Sceptics has asked an award-winning investigative journalist, David Rose, to investigate the high death toll in Britain’s care homes. Did 20,000+ elderly people really die of COVID-19 between March and July or were many of them just collateral lockdown damage? With lots of care homes short-staffed because employees were self-isolating at home, and with relatives and partners unable to visit to check up on their loved ones because of restrictions, how many elderly residents died of neglect, not Covid? How many succumbed to other conditions, untreated because they weren’t able to access hospitals or their local GP? After doctors were told by care home managers that the cause of death of a deceased resident was “novel coronavirus”, how many bothered to check before signing the death certificate? The risk of doctors misdiagnosing the cause of death is particularly high, given that various safeguards to minimise the risk of that happening were suspended in March.
David Rose would like Lockdown Sceptics readers to share any information they have that could help in this investigation. Here is his request:
We are receiving reports that some residents of care homes who died from causes other than Covid may have had their deaths ascribed to it – even though they never had the disease at all, and never tested positive. Readers will already be familiar with the pioneering work by Carl Heneghan and his colleagues at the Oxford Centre for Evidence Based Medicine, which forced the Government to change its death toll counting method. Previously, it will be recalled, people who died of, say, a road accident, were being counted as Covid deaths if they had tested positive at any time, perhaps months earlier. But here we are talking of something different – Covid “deaths” among people who never had the virus at all.
In one case, where a family is deciding whether to grant permission for Lockdown Sceptics to publicise it, an elderly lady in reasonable health was locked in her room for many hours each day in a care home on the south coast, refused all visitors, deprived of contact with other residents, and eventually went on hunger strike, refusing even to drink water. She died in the most wretched circumstances which were only indirectly a product of the virus – and yet, her death certificate reportedly claims she had Covid.
I’m looking for further examples of 1) elderly people who died as a result of the lockdown and associated measures, but whose deaths were wrongly attributed to “novel coronavirus”, and 2) those elderly people who clearly died from other causes but whose deaths were still formally ascribed to Covid because they once tested positive for it, even after the counting method change.
If you have relevant information, please email Lockdown Sceptics or David directly on david@davidroseuk.com.
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This is war on the people. I wonder how 2021 will look like.
This is WW3. A war waged by the “leadership” upon the all people, and the very essence of humanity itself. At this stage I am unconcerned with 2021. Every day in 2020 brings new horrors, and I can look no further than this. If things continue to develop as they have, I will be more than happy never to see 2021.
No, it will get better. People wake up one at a time, but when they do, there will be a reckoning.
Albert Einstein
Those who have the privilege to know have the duty to act.
The only way I can see is to work overtime to convert people, engaging them any way we can. Leafletting with simple factual messages, leaflets in supermarket trolleys, stickers on cars and of course, engaging on social media. E.G., perhaps to drive home that the present distortion of screening ‘cases’ does not mean infected or infectious and the vast majority of ‘cases’ are people who are in excellent health and no threat to the community.
Of course, if prominent personalities can be “un-brainwashed” then the message would be magnified.
The creative people on this site will undoubtedly many better ideas.
Churchill
But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties,…
This is my theory too. We go into Oxford City Centre and hand out leaflets. Have you got any sample leaflets?
I have one on HCQ with links on the back – Two-sided A5
HCQ
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
People in the global South all take the anti-malarial drug HCQ. Very few there died of Covid-19. Our ‘governments’ denied us access to HCQ and many who suffered from Covid-19 died needlessly. One tablet of HCQ per week guards against infection from Sars-Cov-2.
A group of doctors in the United States have successfully treated hundreds of Covid-19 patients with HCQ, but the authorities there are desperately trying to deny them access to the drug. Any mention of HCQ on the internet is quickly taken down. There has also been a major disinformation campaign where fraudulent ‘scientific’ papers attacking HCQ have been published.
HCQ is cheap, safe and effective and means that very expensive vaccines are completely unnecessary.
Alan Jones in Australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4xhhCkmPA
https://www.facebook.com/CraigKellyMP/videos/313190119942539/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGBEaYEtiys&feature=youtu.be
Charlie Kirk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2P4-cK_K8&feature=youtu.be
Del Bigtree
https://thehighwire.com/videos/doctors-love-it-fauci-hates-it-why/
Corbett Report
https://www.corbettreport.com/
Stickers
Costly Rushed Vaccines – NO
Cheap Safe Hydroxychloroquine – YES
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VernonColeman.com has some more verbose leaflets.
StandupX has quite a few.
Get to Trafalgar Square on this Saturday – 26th Sept, 12 Noon. The more there are the better.
Check out Keep Britain Free
In my experience, it’s very difficult to convert most people by talking about the civil liberties aspects of all of this, or by trying to explain what “cases” and “infections”, as opposed to “death”, actually means.
But there is one issue with which you can gain traction: THE VACCINE.
I live in France and went to a parent/teacher meeting, last night, at the school (we’re still just about allowed to congregate for such occasions over here!) Everybody was dutifully masked-up and conformist, but at the end of the meeting I raised the issue of mandatory vaccination of all our children, as well as the staff at the school, in 2021.
There is nothing fanciful about this; France already makes it compulsory for all school-children to have a growing range of vaccinations, but my comment really got the attention of everybody present.
Good point. WHO has said that sending a child to school means that you are consenting to your child being vaccinated.
Note that HCQ eliminates the need for a vaccine for Covid-19 (at least).
People are waking up far too slowly and the masses will still flock for the intentionally dodgy vaccines that will soon to be coming our way. Once the great bulk of the public have been injected there will be no way back.
Ah – there never was a way back. But there is an uncovering of truth from benath masking self-illusion – no matter how terrible they seem.If everyone is looking to see if everyone else is aligning in or expressing truth that they are otherwise unwilling or unready to own and know and align in for themselves, then even if others came out so to speak, would that really give permission to accept and step into your life? Or only to follow in the outer appearances unchanged?
The voice for fear is different from a clear and present danger. It works via the mind of ‘what if’.
And operates as if it has become ‘As Is!’ – not least by an extreme emotional reaction.
I hope so Ryan
Hello,
I agree people are coming round to the fact lockdown failed after all we and Europe are seeing increases in infections which given time will lead to deaths. This wasn’t suppose to happen after lockdown the restrictions would be relaxed and society would return to normal. So now all the sacrifices everyone as made was all for nothing because lockdown was the wrong strategy. To me when I heard Sweden had less cases than neighbours Denmark and Norway I realised then that our strategy had failed. The government may not want to accept this fact and will try to continue as if it’s doing the thing but as people suffer they will be a backlash and Boris will be history.
Lockdown worked in China, no cases. Real strict there, have to have temp. Taken when u go in supermarkets, everyone wears masks. I know temp. Thing isn’t 100% decisive but people follow the rules. Too many people flouting the rules in the UK for it to work.
DON’T SAY THAT. We need human beings to live as human beings in this world and refute the zombie hordes just by living, as opposed to their horrid living death. We need, you, friend, to rejoice with us when better times return.
We need to stop being afraid, stop listening and being influenced by the MSM, and start living in real hope. There are very evil plots being implemented right now by those who THINK they can control our lives but time is getting short for them, hence the maelstrom of conflicting lies and misinformation that we are being bombarded with. They want to mentally destroy us so we become totally compliant. They will succeed but only if you give them your permission! This a pivotal moment in history and it could go one of two ways. Let’s make it go the right way. Stop interacting with the narrative. Distance yourself and understand what it is to be a sovereign human being. Look after yourselves and those around you and show love. Stay away from the conflicting noise, it’s there to distract you and take you away from yourself. Live in the higher moment and pull others into your light. This how is how we win.
Yes – AS we love Life – instead of a fake and hollow version masked in ‘virtue’ so as to seem to have it, we recognise that fear of self-conflict covered over and masked in narrative continuity and control IS NOT OUR FRIEND – or protector. It’s thoughts are not witnessing to the Living, but to a split off sense of disconnection that is being replicated in our time for us to recognise for what it is – and therefore no longer use fro what it is not. It is not a true foundation from which to know ourselves, each other and the living world we share in. In truth we can only Be who and what we are (created to be) but in ‘being-afraid’ we are giving our awareness of being to the mind of fear. In some sense we have a collective ‘bottoming out’ experience of the pattern of addiction – in which the capacity to abide in the false direction and result is coming to awareness as increasing unbearable. The willingness to look directly AT or upon the foundation of a convictions and beliefs that are running the attempt to live all by ourself is the turning… Read more »
Check out UKColumn to get an idea of what is going on while everyone is arguing and pointing out flaws in the ‘government’ babble about C-19.
Why has this site been flooded with oestreogen?
If we wanted flowers, we’d have ordered them.
Go and have some babies and make some sandwiches, while men talk business.
Al, you’re a very naughty boy.
We have to MAKE better times return.
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Richard O the question we need to ask is why was the war started?
Virus or something else? If some other reason what?
The virus has always been a smokescreen for me. Plainly obvious from very early on that the response was wildly disproportionate to the actual threat. There are some great posts from slightly earlier this evening speculating on the fact that the economic system actually collapsed in September 2019. What we are seeing now is a controlled demolition, with no attempt to limit the collateral damage. Step forward all kinds of vested interests to offer their solutions after the global population has been battered into submission. All the authoritarian stuff is slave training for the technocracy being lined up.
I believe the banking system melted down again in autumn September / October 2019.
The A-holes sure are running amok in the West eh folks? Every medical establishment in every Western country (minus the old blue and gold in Scandinavia) is lock step in adherence to the WHO narrative and we’re all gearing up for the SECOND WAVE to justify more lockdowns and more destruction to the Main Street economies. You’d think one, two maybe three countries by now would be evolving beyond this massive failure of a policy but we still hear of only a few dissenting voices within The Science community peeking out now and again. You’d think truly sovereign nations could figure this crap out by themselves without having to “partner” with the WHO in tackling this tame crisis. It’s all settled folks. We, the people, deserve everything coming our way. Never in the history of the human race have so many lived so well. Never have so many been willing to give up living in order to stay alive – an inch last Spring, a yard this Fall and a mile by the New Year – anything to ease their fears and give them hope for a return to normal. Those in power must be loving this s**t. No need… Read more »
To quote one now seems like a guidebook for what is happening :
”A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.”
Yes, and people will stand in line for the vaccine and beg to be enslaved, just so they can be SAFE.
The public’s utter stupidity is a never ending wonder and makes the government’s depopulation task so very much easier. Bring on the hardly tested, liability free unlicensed vaccines and the plebs will be fighting to be first. I’m beginning to think that it might not be such a bad thing and Bill Gates was right when he said the planet was vastly overcrowded.
Maybe this is our test. If we can resist the vaccine and survive the shitstorm, we will get to carry the torch into the future. Anyone who takes the vaccine will condemn themselves to a slow and painful death.
Exactly. I’ve had it with this people. If they want to commit suicide, have at it.
Colluding in their own demise, they certainly deserve something.
The underlying leverage of the fear-mind is through guilt arising from wanting YOUR judgement to have priority over truth. Well did you get what you ‘deserve’ of what you in fact ask for? A world in which; “Everything is BACKWARDS; everything is upside down! Doctors destroy health, Lawyers destroy justice, Universities destroy knowledge, Governments destroy freedom, Major media destroys information, And religions destroy spirituality”. ~(Michael Ellner) If we look through a mind that puts truth behind it, we see nothing as it truly is. You deserve love’s awareness now. But to put this first, you must put the fear-mind of the ‘deceiver’ behind you, or ‘reverse the reversal’. Of course the mind that made illusion offers to get you out – that is how the mindtrap ‘works’. Insofar as you have un resolved debt in Life – you have unfinished business, but a true reckoning releases the insanity that grows from trying to protect illusions form truth (which is simply true and not at war with a ‘something else’ called illusion masking off as IF true). The mind of judgement – that we assigned to God – is the mindset of ‘lording it over unworthiness’ or perceived and believed guilt in self and… Read more »
The answer is quite simple. Until the current lot go, it’s going to be the same over and over again. Boris Johnson and co. will NEVER change course.
Yes, it is clear that Johnson and his band of brigands have no absolutely interest in the welfare of UK citizens. Our corrupt government is working to an outside UN/globalist agenda, that has depopulation and the great green reset as its centrepieces. The coming Covid-19 vaccines will be the main tools of the planned depopulation, better described as genocide.
Let’s face it, the vaccines WILL forced on us oherwise we”ll be not allowed to leave our home. These bastards need to swing…and they will.
I doubt that we will be locked in our homes at first, but there will be many other suffocating restrictions. It will be easier for some to avoid the vaccine than others, but no matter those that take it will be literally dead people still walking, at least for a short while.
The underlying principle is of mind-capture, such as to accept and align in freedom as something granted you by external authority. This has some application at the level of the body. And if you limit your self (lockdown) as the body, then it tells you what you are, what to do and how to feel. Freeing from mind capture, needs first to notice it. The controling aspect of mind-capture is set to deny you awareness of what runs beneath – because that is the reason for your invoking it. Ancient hates and fears in archetypal patternings run beneath seemingly familiar experience. Do they come up to be undone or healed? The ancient way is of limited sacrifice to evade total sacrifice – but there IS no way to partially sacrifice truth of wholeness – and so the corruption works through the part that THINKS it is a whole – autonomous or ‘self-willed’. Recognising the patterns operates a different mind to falling into ever more complex rabbit holes of diversion – that initially seemed to promise an answer. Predictive programming can be carried out by the population upon themselves by repeated authoritative suggestions, so as to use the ‘bot-net’ to generate… Read more »
When each stage in the trick is effected it is replaced by the next – so as to seem to have changed – or be on a new footing.
In some way the change that is most needed is in hearts and minds – as one – and not merely an external change that permits return to unconsciousness.
So your answer may be simple in that it is your version of ‘making the bad things go away’ so you can get your life back.
BJ and co are doing what they are told. Which could be ‘hold position at all costs until the cavalry comes into force’. They do tell us what they are doing – but always through forms of reversal.
So if you don’t give the knee you are kneeled on and choked – in one way or another. that may not see a choice, but our true choice is always between truth and self-illusion – and not merely ‘which self-illusion?’ with the good cop bad cop incentive to either crack or fold to the nice man who gives you a break from hurting and speaks sympathetically to your wish to be free of pain.
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk
Of course not; above all, they must save face.
…even one as unappealing as Boris’.
Then the government’s main weapon will be the hardly tested liability free unlicensed vaccines. I won’t be volunteering.
Haven’t seen the worst of 2020 yet. Just wait until the carnage after the US election and UK martial law. Remember Event 201 is the script for what they are planning.
This is exactly why I am unconcerned about 2021. The shitstorm to be unleashed in Q4 2020 will be absolutely brutal and unrelenting. Expect hell on earth. Many of us will not make it.
https://www.eutruth.org.uk
Seriously, I’m thinking of ringing in the new year with a fifth of bourbon and a fistful of morphine, at this rate.
Have you seen (or read) ‘V for Vendetta’, by any chance? Remember how it ended?
The 5th of November IS just ’round the corner, isn’t it?
Best form of defense is attack. Starts now.
END CORONAVIRUS ACT
WRITE MP NOW
Engage with people by any means possible – person-to-person, email leaflets, car stickers. social media and any other method you can think of. Point out the government lies, false positives, anything that engages a brain cell.
At least England has some freedom left compared to the SNP-ridden hellhole that is Scotland. Apparently, it’s possible that Scotland will close all hospitality and entertainment venues, force a travel restriction of 5 miles, close visitor attractions, contact sports and indoor physical activity as a group, severely restrict the use of public transport, close hairdressers and driving lessons, and open places of worship for “private worship and reflection only’.
Something tells me Nicola had a little chat with Kim Jong-Dan over how to deal with a non-existent virus which is barely killing anybody nowadays. What a complete shambles. I wouldn’t be surprised if we were forced to quarantine just for going down to England over the weekend, knowing Nicola.
So to any English person complaining over the new restrictions – your complaints are justified, but you aren’t living in Scotland!
The hodpitality shut down *may* just may be the camels back breaking. So much of Scotland will be dealt a fatal blow by that. However there is very little understanding of how fraudulent the statistics are in Scotland imo. However again, the sheer stuborness of Scots character may finally kick in with outrage at the twattery of it all. There is a certain loss of patience occuring with the Scot Gov in general matterd to. They are eroding through implosion.
I hope so, but most Scots I know think Stalin is ‘doing a great job’ because they are so immersed in the England-Scotland divide that she merely has to hint that she is doing something different to Johnson and they lap it up. They are spineless.
Even sadder is that a lot of Russians still think the real Stalin did a good job.
and some Germans still admire Adolf
Cf. Sturgeon’s 8.05pm announcement tweet; in the replies, there is more discussion of why she should be going on after Johnson and congratulations for how she is ‘keeping Scotland safe’ than any actual discussion of the lies being told or the complete disgrace that is our government.
Every time Mr Bart and I read more about Mad Nicola’s ramblings we thank our lucky stars that we got out of Scotland when the opportunity arose.
That said the Scottish economy is heavily dependent on the public sector, tourism and hospitality. These measures will bring Scotland further down its knees having already sustained massive losses from having little to no business over spring and summer.
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Destroy the Economy > Blame Westminster > Save Independence
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Yep. That’s the SNP’s plan all aong.
I’m hoping that independence dies from Covid!!
I see Nicola Sturgeon is to address the nation this evening at 8 o’clock. That woman fancies herself as we used to say. She’s been stringing the Scots along with her “new restrictions to be announced in the next few days, “new restrictions to be announced in the next few hours,” “new restrictions to be announced in the next few minutes.” Yet here is a comment on the independence newspaper, the National. “I have conformed 100% and more to the guidance, no visits to pubs or restaurants, no overseas holiday, rarely going in shops, rarely leaving my house. Limited interaction with family, therefore I’m really annoyed if I have to stop seeing my great grandchild and other grandchildren due to the selfishness of others. Young or old! I will comply but with severe despair.” This person has put her life on hold for six months. If she already has a great grandchild she can’t have that much time left. Yet she blames people going to pubs and parties for the miserable life she is leading. From other comments she has made I know for a fact she won’t hear a word against the First Minister. My mother-in-law doesn’t even support… Read more »
People deserve the governments they’ve got. Clearly that stupid old woman is putty in the hands of a narcissist like the rabid Nicola.
https://www.aforceforgood.org.uk
(Re-posted from yesterday’s forum ‘cos I didn’t realise the new one was up). I was last on this site a couple of months ago when I was suffering from an implosion of the mind due to a myriad of problems (all Lockdown/mask related) for which there appeared to be no solution. However, there are always solutions. Some may not be nice, some may be difficult and some may be right under one’s nose (and no, I’m not talking about a mask). I’m glad to say that I’m now able to see a mask wearer and not go medieval on their sorry hide. I’ve been out and about without getting arrested which is a good thing. I am able to deal graciously (relatively) with simpering, lockdownistas of my acquaintance without resorting to a snarling Tasmanian Devil. Agreements have been made that lessens the likelihood of me turning green and ripping my clothes to pieces before going, yep you guessed it, all medieval on their sorry arse. I am now in a happy place of controlled, simmering agression that can be alleviated with the words, “Down boy. Good dog.” and the like. Now that I have quelled the demons and quenched the… Read more »
Several groundhog days when it comes to government idiocy.
So Govt. = idiocy. Idiocy = Govt. Plus ça change…
Your approach is excellent. Nauseating and repulsive as the sight of face-nappies may be, it us bearable if you remember that behind many a nappy is a person who loathes and detests the foul thing a d has no br.ief in its efficacy, but believes that if they take it off they will be arrested and receive a ruinous fine. Tell thrm it’s a lie.
Good on you. It’s brave going maskless. I have a hospital appointment next week, need an x ray, but they want me masked. Any tips?
Hard though it is, you will probably need to bite the bullet. What is more important-your health or making a stand? As the saying goes “pick your battles”. I know it seems like a sell out but sometimes retreat is the best course of action. Only wish Bojo would swallow his pride and admit he was wrong.
I made one from an old t shirt. The material is a soft cotton jersey so it’s breathable. It’s also pretty thin so pretty much useless (a bit like all masks) but I doubt anyone will whip the thing off me and declare it unfit for purpose! I deliberately made it from black material so the thinness wasn’t too apparent.
I have a mask sent to me by the town council in May. I have never washed it, wear it as little as possible and keep it in my handbag with other junk. But I worry about my kids, at university, who have to wear masks in class. One even visited a forest the other day, everybody masked. At high school too, from the age of eleven upwards, kids and teachers have to be masked. A group of parents is trying to sue the Ministry of Education.
Agree that you’ll probably have to wear something, it’s the only place along with the GP surgery that I accept it. However I wear a cotton neckerchief and look like I’m going to rob the place and it’s much better than a mask.
Yes, I’ve had both a hospital appointment with consultant; and yesterday an appointment at the local doctors surgery. TELEPHONE BEFOREHAND. Tell them you don’t wear a mask and ask them what arrangements they have got for that; and politely suggest that would it help if you turned up early. Both receptionists said it wouldn’t be a problem. And it wasn’t. However, getting past the door-guard can be difficult if they have not also received the message; both times I was questioned. At the hospital, another door person came out, ignored the first, and, no further explanation needed, welcomed me by name and took me to a seat inside. At the doctors, the door-girl had to take my temperature, and she also wanted me to wear a mask. I said I didn’t wear one. She wanted to know if I had a medical reason – I said it drove me crazy. She asked did I have a letter from the doctor – I said No, I didn’t need one; I knew it would drive me crazy. I then intervened and said my name was on the system, and they had put a note that I would not be wearing a mask,… Read more »
PS – when I tell them it will drive me crazy, I give them my best Jack Nicholson smile. :-))
Seems to vary from trust to trust but I don’t know how far up the management ladder the decision about being relaxed or not is made.
Full Hazmat?
Or stark bollock naked except for the mask?
Sorry; it’s hard to take this madness seriously sometimes
Tell them you’re exempt, and get pushy if you need to. I’ve got an appointment booked next month and told them I was exempt. They tried it on but I was adamant they they coudn’t refuse to see me if I can’t wear a “face covering” and they’ve made an arrangement for me to come to a different entrance and call in to the department so they can come and get me. That was a month ago so I’d beinterested to see if their rules change when I show up but I’m fortunate in that it is a non-urgent appointment.
Say you’re exempt. That’s it.
Although I can’t speak personally for what it’s like in hospitals, I have not worn a mask since they were forced upon us in July, and have had no problems, except for the rather Hitler-like library assistant who made it very clear that she did not like my attitude to either masks (not wearing) and hand sanitizer (not using), but nevertheless still let me in. But yesterday I was refused entry to a charity shop which had just re-opened because I refused to use the HS and wasn’t wearing a mask. I said I was exempt and the woman then asked to see my “dog tag”. I have just written them a long email and when I get a reply I will post both on here.
I’m the last person to offer any advice which, thankfully, others on here have done.
I’ve not worn a mask at all, I don’t own one. I refuse any request to wear one. I don’t use the exemption line even though I’m entitled to do so. My usual reply when asked to wear one is, “I don’t wear a symbol of servility or subservience under any circumstances. Deal with it.”
So far this has got me ‘black listed’ at my GP’s and at one hospital. At least I suspect that is what has happened.
Do I care? Do I hell. I like watching people squirm. If this is the hill I die on then so be it. As Marvin the Paranoid Android said, “Life, loathe it or detest it, you can’t like it.”
You have to follow your conscience and do what is right for you.
Look them in the eye and, if challenged, just say “I’m exempt”. Happened to me on the train with police inspecting ( they advised me to get a lanyard) and in a chemists. You can’t legally (yet) be challenged and no reason need be given. Everyone should do it, though be polite.
Van Morrison’s songs.
Oh stuff it, thinking about packing in this ‘key worker’ lark, might spend a couple of months sucking on the teat of the State.
Yeah, I’d probably hold fire on that. Anyone relying on the Govt. for money is going to have to take the vaccine to continue to do so. No papers, no payment.
Oops🤔
I fear you’re right. I’m disabled, so that’s me starving to death. Stocked up a year’s food and started a small garden, but I can’t keep up with the garden (as per disabled), so it isn’t doing so well. It’s annoying… I have a green thumb, but it keeps dislocating, lol!
You’ve done the right thing stocking up. You can only hope that what you’ve got is enough to see you through. Hope is all any of us really have. The end game has not manifested itself yet.
Whatever way it pans out you only need to let it be known if you’re really struggling.
If you’re starving to death then I suspect we all will be.
In the end, for people like you and me (yes I also rely on the Govt.) I reckon it’ll come to a straight choice; take the vaccine and get the money or don’t and don’t. I’ve already made my peace with the consequences of refusal.
Don’t ever give up. Keep positive, find beauty and calm where you can. All things will pass.
Gawd I sound bloody mawkish. I much preferred being a hell hound. 😀
I can’t for the life of me figure out Whitty and Vallance. These are intelligent people with an education in data and statistics. They know that you cannot extrapolate from a downward trend to make it an exponential upward trend, and they must know that what they presented today was an utter falsification – hinted at by the bizarre “this prediction is not a prediction” caveat…they are either being told to misrepresent the truth by their masters, or are intentionally misrepresenting the truth of their own accord, presumably for their own benefit. Either way its shameful and an utter disgrace.
They’re both connected to pharmaceutical companies with a vested interest in vaccines. Ferguson, too.
‘connected to’ do you mean ‘bought by’
I’m being kind.
One of them was effectively fired by big pharma, so I can’t imagine he has much love for them
I don’t buy the ‘bought off by evil big pharma’ explanations either.
From 2017
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2017/12/06/tom-jefferson-the-uk-turns-to-witty-vallance-and-van-tam-for-leadership-revolving-doors/
the paragraph about pandemic planning is interesting in today’s context.
Andrew not Chris Whitty, but the others are one a pot of gold for this cock up.
Whitty has worked for organisations that have been lavishly funded by Bill Gates.
How do you explain 2 intelligent men presenting those ‘facts’.
They are not stupid or this incompetent
Fear. Of something or somebody.
That is a simple but key point. We don’t always know what people are hiding or why they are hiding it but that they are not in the Right Mind – or connected heart and mind – is absolutely evident to anyone who is alive, present and open to communication and relationship. Because we don’t know the what or why, we project our own fears and fear-derived motives onto them and react as IF we know. We may also be ‘played’ by others when we set such beliefs real by reaction. I cannot deal with Chris Witty and chum’s fear for them, but I can hold for an integrity of being that remains there for them, should they choose to face and release fear’s tyranny instead of seeking -Stockholm-syndrome like’, to adapt within a dis-integrity set in priority or power. Control runs beneath a world of war, no matter what it ‘masks in’. The masking of ‘war on life’ as a 4th industrial revolution (bio security state under global mandate) is dependent on what the germ theory epitomises. ALL the attention and funding assigned to the ‘pathogen’ and war on evils assigned thereby. NONE to the ‘Terrain’ or total environment… Read more »
Money as well as fear.
alone together without Boris this time
It doesn’t matter what the leverage is to see they are acting out their roles as if their life depends on it.
As I just commented above, the orders to hold position can apply to fending off the pack (buying time), while the cavalry is installed.
They’re all connected to Bill Gates as is Ferguson.
In 2008, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation awarded the LSHTM £31 million for malaria research in Africa. At the time, Whitty was the principal investigator for the ACT Consortium, which conducted the research programme.
I doubt it they’re ‘bought off’ but big pharma would probably be their next career move, which wouldn’t look too promising if they’d contributed to choking off a lucrative vaccine market…
It wasn’t a prediction. It was a carefully designed psychological anchor – using the fairly standard “Fear and Relief” marketing technique.
Ramp up the fear, trail complete lockdown. Then what you announce seems reasonable even though it is far more than people would have accepted if you’d just announced it on its own.
What I find amusing is that they still believe this trick will work once social media has explained how the trick is done.
And then congratulate us all for our efforts when the 2nd wave doesn’t arrive, even though it was never going to arrive anyway.
It’s very similar to economics. You can never run a parallel universe as a control study so it’s all hocus pocus stuff.
Apart from the fact they will congratulate themselves rather than us, I do wonder if that’s what this latest dose of drivel is about – they need to be able to claim some kind of victory to justify backing down without it looking like they’ve done all this damage for nothing. Hype up the problem, give it a couple of months for the data to manifestly fail to follow predictions and then claim victory in time for Christmas.
Spot on –
“It’s a neat trick, but there’s one thing; the trick has to work.”
Quote from Das Boot.
And no, the trick hasn’t worked on us.
Good to see the basic leverage being revealed.
Unless people take their attention from the movie (of personal reaction and invested identity), to the programming at mind level, they effectively are choosing the movie as it is programming them to.
Schopenhauer explained 38 tricks by which to ‘win an argument’ without actually debating the issue – ie by ‘dirty tricks’. He hoped by publishing this, the ability of tricksters would be limited and more real communication might result in a more honest outcome.
Marketing soon found that the 38 tricks were very saleable to those who wanted to learn dirty tricks so as to use them.
The ‘self-will’ ONLY sees what can be marketised and weaponised. It runs as a possession and control mandate. Everything you seek to use against it will be absorbed and repurposed to be used against you.
Strategies of surviving trauma, operate as split off personality set in maintaining and protecting the split as its salvation. So it can devote a lifetime to learning about its predicament – as a way to persist in it under the mask of understanding.
Agreed… classic “good cop, bad cop” tactics. I was actually relieved when I saw the newspaper headlines today, after the dread of an even partial return to the insanity of March.
With more time to reflect, the new announcements are thoroughly spirit-crushing. But at least this gives time for the growing level of public, media and expert dissent against the Government’s policy, to grow. Especially if cases start to level off or decline (it looks like they may be already be doing so).
If the latter happened after a full lockdown, they would simply claim it as a success (and many people would believe them)
That’s what struck me. That extrapolation graph was an outright lie, saved from such by the word “could”. Which of course MSM report as a certainty.
wiser to display a range-something that tripped up Michael Levitt when forecasting US death levels.
Having only just watched the press conference i have to say I’m amazed.The 2 most senior medical and scientific people in the country just sat there and presented a mixture of lies,guesswork and scaremongering.
The most frightening thing would be that they really believed the nonsense they were spouting.
No mention of false positives and I see the pandemic has been downgraded to an epidemic.
The only good thing is the reaction it has provoked.
not only that, no facility to take questions from the press
The press would only have lobbed a few softballs.
They’ve nailed their colours to this mast and that’s that. Whitty and Valance are like all the rest of us. Their priorities are as follows:
Occasionally you’ll come across someone who puts others ahead of some aspect of themselves, but rarely and only temporarily.
These two clowns need to go. Boris Johnson needs to go. Hancock needs to go. Until they do, this is what we are stuck with.
Other people as 2. point? Should that not be 200th? I am sure other people are far far off their mind.
They’re all in and fully invested emotionally, intellectually, egotistically and financially (that’s more than enough ‘-allys’!)
They are being told to misrepresent the truth. At all costs. Whitty is as frightened as hell. But they are not Boris and Hancock stooges. It’s the other way round. Hancock and Johnson are the stooges. Hancock may actually believe in the new technocracy. Boris doesn’t believe in anything.
Whitty and Vallance serve different masters. When one accepts this, it becomes all too clear what is happening. From the beginning (actually before the beginning) it has been about vaccines, immunity passports, payment cards linked to immunity passports, end of cash, and destruction of the economy.
JMO!
Quit trying to “figure them out” they are Gauleiters who are carrying out the plans of fascists.
On the contrary; it all makes perfect sense if you understand that Project Fear is designed to string out this crap until a notionally-effective “vaccine” is sold to the NHS at a cost of billions of pounds to make the Big Pharma company loadsamoney.
When this is over, they (and all those who backed them) must be sent to The Hague for trial. What they are knowingly doing is literally a crime against humanity. Ideally, conviction for this crime will carry the death penalty.
They are doing what they are told, as Johnson and Hancock. Now guess who’s doing the telling? Not too difficult.
Good. Bring this up at their trial. A Stalin-type trial will do. A lot to get through, you know.
I wasn’t out and about yesterday so did not see how things were at the start of the University year.
Pic supposedly of students at a Hall of Residence Saturday night.
Behaving very admirably I’d say.
Well done students. We love you
Hope it’s genuine. I HATE the stupid, cowardly jerks who are trying to turn our universities into miserable high-security jails. I still remember the mixture of joy and apprehension that I felt on my first day, as I took my first real step towards adulthood and becoming my own person. What sort of wrecks will emerge from universities as they are now?
According to the graun this sort of behaviour is most popular in Scotland but with reported outbreaks in Manchester and Oxford.
Cambridge sill follow, I hope, though it will be harder in colleges that have a staircase system.
Great to see, I hope it’s real. My 2 kids are going back to University and I am concerned for them. It’s supposed to be a great time of life for the young and you can’t turn the clock back.
If they all pass the virus to each other theyll be immune by the end of term. The lecturers will have to remember not to snog the students, or theyll get it too.
Heroes, warriors and legends. My freshers 1st term I was out every night! Halcyon days.
SO was I…well allegedly. I don’t remember most of it..Good times!
And yet isn’t it strange how whenever the BBC interviews the student on the street they all seem to be in favour of more and more restrictions? You hardly ever hear or see an interview with one who disagrees with the restrictions.
If you watch what they show you as anything but a manipulative intent, you are willingly fooled.
If you think that calling them out will change anything, you persist in wanting the BBC-old normal.
I don’t give my attention to what doesn’t extend a willingness for life, but if you watch with the volume OFF, (no subs), you may notice the unreality of a masking presentation.
The text accompanying that picture was largely quotes from a student who felt she had been ‘betrayed’ by the university and ‘put in danger’.
I suppose she might have made up her own mind and left.
Well, l of course if a BBC reporter came across a critical voice, they would not show it. Did it say something in their statues about unbiased, neutral, balanced reporting?
It’s time our megalomanic governments were treated with the utter contempt that they deserve. Good on those students.
It’s because they are basing everything on computer modeling, not just ferguson. They are also modeling human behaviour to try and predict how we will respond if they bring in this measure or that.
You are not Pavlov mr johnson and I am not a dog, thank you.
I think that the models are psychopathic, choosing implausible and death-loving inputs and refusing to refine the models by comparing them with reality
Nasty corollary, the dogs got eaten during the siege of Leningrad.
Exactly, they are running the country using AI to predict outcomes as huge amounts of data are being automatically analysed across all social media platforms. This involved AI reading what is posted and then analysing it. It works way better than speech recognition which is now very very good. AI reading text and “understanding” it is highly evolved now.
This Corona Project is being managed globally almost literally as a computer game. They write the events into the game and see how “the game” reacts. Game theory comes into play too.
Its a global blueprint that is badly written because its a “nouvelle” plan, one size fits all, it’s never really been tried out before this is why it is so clumsy and damaging and unconvincing.
However this is how the world is to be managed now, they call it, “governance”.
Why is the Pie Chart ‘typical causes of death’ in the funnies section ?
It is a stunningly clear illustration of much of what is said here.
Screenshot for use with waveres.
You are right, there needs to be a hi-res image made available. The only thing I’d baulk at is attributing any deaths to ‘climate change’. In the UK? WTF?
It’s the sunbathers who died of sunstroke.
It would make a good protest banner for the upcoming Trafalgar Square march on 26th September.
What have Tony Blair and the dictator have in comnon?
They both started illegal wars
We let Blair off the hook and look where that has led us
We should not repeat that mistake
If and when this is all over everyone involved must be stripped of all their assets, and I literally mean all their assets, including the clothes they stand up In
We then dump them naked on Trafalgar square where their relatives can collect them if they wish
Then we should go back for Blair
Never again should someone think they can get away with something like this
So right. The precedent of the Iraq war in which a leader took a country to war against the openly stated wishes of the population, backed up by phoney reasons, with terrible results and still no consequences of that leader – that is a bad bad precedent that has done huge damage to this country and the west at large.
And just like Blair, Al Johnson will blubber on for years to come about how he was right, justified etc etc
Listen to the latest Corbett Report on Covid911. The same figures who were involved in National security then moved into Biosecurity
Someone asked me recently “what happened to terrorist attacks? You don’t hear of them anymore.”
I replied, “who needs terrorists when you have the UK’s governments?”
They have disappeared alongside with cancer, heart disease, strokes, depression, anxiety, etc.
Nice to see that they can make all of them go away if they put their minds to it.
Must have died with the Covid
Third lamppost on the left is reserved for the government ‘source’
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D for d notice?
Valence said “the disease has not changed its propensity to cause disease and to cause deaths…”
That’s not what medics have told me which is that procedures and interventions to deal with the Covid that did not work during its height around Easter are now successful in treating the vanishingly small numbers that are now falling ill.
So he’s basically saying the NHS is useless, if you end up in hospital you’re probably going to die.
The hospital mortality rate at its height was 6% I seem to remember.
Even Whitty admitted that there is an effective and cheap treatment, dexamethasone, which has significantly improved outcomes – completely contradicting the statement by Vallance…it’s not that covid does not have a risk attached, but the risk does not justify the reaction to it..it’s rare, treatable and has a relatively low mortality and morbidity.
My pencil has not lost its propensity to make grey markings on paper. It does what pencils do. Mind you, the nib isn’t as sharp.
Europe yesterday
Total 370 deaths reported Covid related deaths (UK total 11)
Europe Population 741 million people
How many Europeans died from falling out of bed yesterday?
371 died from falling out of bed
And the rest from a co-morbidity, but with falling out of bed, which was put down as the cause of death on the certificate.
How many Swiss people died after eating fondu then drinking cold beer, so blocking up their stomach as the cheese solidifies into a huge lump due to the cold beer?
More than died of covids I shouldn’t wonder…
I really feel for you guys. You need an uprising. Any chance to vote these idiots out of office?
I feel like the US, minus the ongoing mask lunacy and schools, has largely opened up. I have said that where we go, you will follow, but I’m not so sure, anymore.
With the death of RBG, nobody gives a shit about covid, anymore. Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program, and I’m sure they’ll try to ramp the panic back up, but right now people don’t care.
We don’t do voting or elections ‘at the moment’.
I guess I don’t quite know how the system works. Our election is in November, and anyone pulling the shit you’re getting from Johnson would be skewered.
Maybe I give us too much credit. My governor is a moron and a tyrant, but Seattle keeps begging for more.
I actually think you guys might save us. If, as is strongly rumoured, the coronapanic disappears in the US after the election, there will be a big example of a society opening without consequence. That makes it much harder for our government to maintain the lie. Obviously, in an ideal world, we wouldn’t have to wait that long for rescue, but think of it like the World Wars – we stick it out until you guys tip the balance at the last minute.
Overpaid, oversexed and over Corona?
😅🤗😀
I cannot imagine us keeping this up past the election. But then, I had said that we would never go along with masks, either… yet…
Biden is strongly pro-mask. Bad news for the planet if he wins.
What is Kamala’s view 😉
They make biden wear a mask so they can over-dub what he says, we can’t see his mouth move. They can’t allow him to actually spew out his own jumbled Altzheimers infused word salad now can they.
I’m an American/British dual citizen and have always voted for Democrats. Would never in a million years vote for a Republican. But as soon as Biden came out pro-mask, I decided I couldn’t vote this year. I’m not happy about that, but I’ll not contribute to the enactment of a national mask mandate in the US.
Oh, just vote for Trump. You know you kinda want to… 😉
He’s crass, and he’s a jerk, and he’s an idiot … and the only difference between him and every other politician is that he wears it on his sleeve.
At the end of the day, if you value your liberty, you vote Republican.
For you and LS99, absolutely in no circumstances would I ever vote for Trump. I just backspaced and deleted the long line of obscenities I put instead of his name. I will no more be a slave to an arrogant narcissist than a mask mandate. The election will be decided by other Americans and I really do not know which way it will go.
And LS 99, what is this nonsense about voting Republican and “not telling anyone about it”? I’m in my 60s, child, old enough to not to need someone like you telling me what to do.
Trump or Biden i think i will pass is this the best America has us British have Bozo Johnson or Keir Starmer enough said
Well, obviously I wouldn’t vote Conservative (if that is what Johnson’s party actually is), but since we won’t have an election for years, if ever, I’m not concerned with who leads Labour right now.
They would be skewered here too. Unfortunately there’s 4 years until the next elections here. Not that it will make much difference as the opposition parties seem to be in full accord with the govt.
They could do a vote of no confidence to force an early election, but I think it’s unlikely af the moment as parliament seems to have willingly surrendered all control to no.10.
The best hope is that the 1922 committee defenestrate Johnson, he is the antithesis of a honourable man so the offer of the bottle of whiskey and the webley is off the table. The question are: is there anyone on the back benches who could step up? Are there opposition MP’s who could/ would be part of a national recovery coalition?
the 1922 commitee now have no other option but to remove Johnson take Hancock also
“I think it’s unprecedented for a nation to commit suicide”.
Ancient Greek Sparta sort of did. They strongly encouraged male homosexuality between young warriors and younger trainees before the older man turned straight in his late twenties to marry a woman with whom he did not live until he left the army.
Over the course of 400 years the number of full Spartan warrior (Spartiates) fell from 10,000 to a few hundred but they never seem to have figured out why.👬
The courage of Spartan warriors was legendary. I’ve always thought that it was because life in Sparta was. so miserable that death was always preferable.
Reminds me of the famous epitaph of Leonidas and his three hundred. Suitably amended, it would do for Vallance and Whitty:
Go tell the Wancock, ye who view us, that here, obedient to his laws, we LIE.
Leonidas is (rightly, imho) more remembered for ‘Molon Labe’. 🙂
Do you think they are deliberately tanking the economy, so when it tanks again because of the Brexit clusterfuck, they can blame it on the COVID?
Though I am not sure why anyone would think this would be a helpful state of affairs to the Tories.
No I don’t because of similar policies throughout the world no matter what type of regime.
Fair point.
WHY ARE THEY ALL MAD THEN???? 😫
Well I’ve got a theory – you see the north pole is indeed melting (scientists digging holes in the ice cap and saying hmm, it’s thinner than last year; squaddies yomping all over it in the name of charadee; being circled by cruise ships) but the south pole is still good and icy.
So the earth has tilted slightly on its axis.
This has led to the magnetic fields running through and around the globe that human brains are used to, becoming misaligned.
Some brains in trying to cope with the change have become dangerously overheated to the point of meltdown.
Hence the madness. All perfectly straightfoward once you understand the science. Which nobody is telling us. And that’s the conspiracy.
Because none has the courage to implement policies that might lead to their being blamed for Covideaths.
Real leaders sometimes have to make decisions that will lead inevitably and directly to people being killed. Churchill refusing to cave in to Hitler. Thatcher sending the task force to the Falklands. People – their own people – died as a result. Millions more were delivered from murderous and evil regimes.
Boris lacked the courage to face the (hugely exaggerated) risk of ‘causing’ Covideaths. As a result, we now live under a murderous and evil regime, led by him.
I think you’ve got it spot on Annie.
But don’t they realise that we will blame them for all the damage. In a normal year there are about 6k suicide deaths in the UK. I will hold Boris, Hancock, Whitty and Vallance personally responsible for every excess suicide this year. Maybe Gove too. Same goes for excess cancer and heart disease deaths.
Actually, in every country imposing stupid measures, if you dig a bit you find an ulterior political motivation.
In Israel it was the ultra-orthodox propping up the government who would not allow a local lockdown of ultra-orthodox areas where infections were rising. The result was an unnecessary nationwide lockdown.
In Spain, the regions are now in charge of managing the pandemic and with each region run by a different political party they end up outdoing each other with measures because no political party wants to be caught out as being “soft” on the virus.
In the US you have all the posturing ahead of the election.
I think that’s far too sophisticated. It’s arse-covering, combined with lust for easy power. And following public opinion – if they get us back to normal, every death will be attributed to evil Tories by Labour and their supporters among the media
It’s not Brexit that will tank the economy in my view, but the impact of many years of ultra loose monetary policy.
Great Reset….. currency reset. Trust Stamp already rolling out in Africa. (Vaccine, health passport, money all into one in a chip inserted in you). Trust Stamp is funded by GAVI. Don’t believe me? Google it.
Bedtime for Bojo
Let the grave be his bed, eh?
So what’s going on? Why have they embarrassed themselves in the way?
Noticed these two sentences above re bill and ben. The sentences appear to be the crux of the matter. I am a human so can answer. Fraud. I am not a scientist ans so without nuanced understanding of the industry meaning I cannot truly answer. Would anyone care to give the scientific view?
I guess scientists suffer as much as everyone else from difficulty admitting their mistakes, more so when they have very well paid and powerful jobs putting them at the centre of attention.
My advice is to look at the numbers for cases for France and Spain, which Whitty and Valence used to justify their claims yesterday. You can find it here:
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases?country=FRA~ESP#what-is-the-daily-number-of-confirmed-cases
If you can down load it an look in Excel or Google sheets, great, if not just look at the numbers on the graph. I suggest that you look at the “smoothed cases” column as the data for Spain is very choppy, presumably because of the way it is collected in the regions. You don’t need to be a scientist: just look at the numbers of daily cases for August and September. Try to find any 7 day period in which the number of cases doubled. If you cannot, ask yourself who you are going to believe: Chris Whitty or your own eyes.
No brainer! My eyes! Every time. They get things wrong but better that than confidence tricksters telling me what i see.
Unable to see the link or down load. I believe low RAM is freezing my access. I will look out else where or when i encounter it. Caught a glimpse of spain and france data on Sky.
2 + 2 = 5
Great Radiohead song, btw.
“I don’t understand the hysteria in Govt at the moment. They aren’t stupid. They can see the same as me. I really don’t get it.” [Ex-minister quoted in article today.] I see this same kind of refrain in many articles on Lockdown Skeptics: why doesn’t the government understand? Why do they keep pushing these stupid lockdowns…etc. I submit that it is not a question of them understanding. I think Boris Johnson and his minions understand very well what they are doing and why. It is we who do not understand. The UK government (and many other governments world-wide) have pursued a persistent policy since the start of this pandemic–terrify the population about this disease, to the point where they will allow restrictions to their rights and liberties without question. The over-reaction to what is a fairly typical virus has been deliberate, and they obviously mean to keep on doing it, regardless of the medical facts. Therefore, we must look for other reasons why they feel compelled to do this. We can start by noting that there is a tremendous amount of money to be made in vaccines, especially if everyone is required to be vaccinated. We can also note that… Read more »
All very reasonable points and I agree that is the only conclusion one can make in the circumstances.
But if you there are still people around here who will suggest you are a conspiracy theorist for coming to such a conclusion.
Conspiracy theorist used as a pejorative is a great weapon used by those who wish to be protected from reality.
It’s also a term used to stop thought in others and curiosity.
Happily it is losing it’s ascribed meaning as people understand conspiracies are part of everyday life – whenever police investigate a group of people they investigate a conspiracy.
The language must be getting really mangled now. Breaking the “rule of six” is presumably “conspiracy to associate with family members”; not wearing a mask is “conspiracy to breathe.”
I went to the dentist for a check and clean today. Dentist only wearing a mask, happily, but I said something about my asthma coming on when I wear a mask. He told me that I should get a visor. Shocking idea to me, obviously. I said, no, I’ve got an exemption card that I used. He continued to push the idea of a visor but I wouldn’t respond.
Happily, no dental issues so I’ll avoid going back for 9 months again, if possible.
Rather dystopic to have the hygienists wearing respirators. Poor thing struggling to be understood through the whole get-up. I did tell her I felt bad for her having to deal with that. Much nicer than dealing with the dentist.
It’s disgraceful that he continued to push you when you specifically said you have a medical condition that makes you exempt – what happened to disability rights?
I’m not sure if you’re NHS or private, but my dentist has been brilliant.
He said that he thinks this whole government response is ridiculous and is actually insulting, they are well used to having good hygiene practices and dealing with patients that might have infectious illnesses etc…
I was actually really pleasantly surprised by his attitude!
I saw my dentist this morning. Exact opposite of yours. Preaching the “keeping people safe” dogma all the way. My heart was racing throughout the exam but I kept my mouth shut (well, open actually). Don’t argue with people with sharp implements in their hands.
If I could change dentists I would, but then I don’t need to go again for another 6-9 months. Who knows what the situation will be like by then. I may have fled the country (doing my US passport application this afternoon).
Dido Harding saying we will have to.pay for the privilege of getting tested to go to work or the theatre.
Toby’s roundup
One positive if you read the article is there is kickback from Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary calling it “pay to hug”. Could this finally be a sign of actual opposition?
Not really, because Labour believe in track and trace to hug.
Who does she think has been paying?
Pouf! These people simply open their mouths and words issue forth. So when do we get tested for the theatre? When we buy tickets, which could be a year in advance, or in the queue outside.
Well said.
Conspiracy factist
Watching Shapps sniggering at his own ignorance while being interviewed by JHB yesterday, I realised that the arguments are simply going over people’s heads – even those of government ministers. This is probably the case in most aspects of politics, but I never understood it so clearly before. What we have is two sets of theatrical performances. Whitty and Vallance talk in terms of data and numbers, and they are opposed by Heneghan and Gupta. Johnson will then make some economy-wrecking gestures today, and may be opposed by a couple of backbenchers. The BBC and Guardian will exult in the authoritarianistic possibilities of lockdown and a Daily Mail columnist will preach the opposite. And so it will go on. 99% of people will never even bother to try to understand the details or the ideas behind them. We are just playing off one performance against another. People in socially-distanced conversations will mouth the words “cases” to each other without any clue as to what a case actually is or its significance. For them, the fact that two, sweating boffins with trembling hands spoke solemnly to camera is enough, and that some relatively minor adjustments to their lives will allow them… Read more »
This is the significance of Denise Welch and others. Happily with younger generations being online it isnt all up to the few celebrities alone to speak to the masses as preinternet.
Yes, people are unfuriatingly lazy even when their liberty has been removed. Who know that people were so little interested in freedom.
The care worker who told me of two cancer deaths at her place of work marked down as Covid deaths knows perfectly well that it is a con trick. They did not have Any Covid in that home but there was nothing management could do about it.
Simply, there are just a lot of dummies around who will never understand any of it and a lot of apparently intelligent people too interested in their own pathetic worldviews to ever look beyond them.
That’s a perfect summary of this madness.
Quite so. The the demos of today is tired, disunited, demoralised and fearful; with not even the ties of custom and patriotism to bring them together. This is why I feel a faint nausea come over me when pundits and politicos chunter about “The British People” and how they’ll never “wear” this or that. It is dated rubbish; part of the stale cant which passes for speechifying nowadays.
I’m not so sure – I think the random, inhuman edicts are beginning to put iron into people’s souls. They may not necessarily understand the science, but masks in schools and the rule of six have made them more amenable to argument and more likely to criticise the Government. Now SAGE are suggesting the rule of six will be replaced with an absolute ban on socialising outside your household and I can’t see that being meekly accepted as a minor adjusment.
The intelligence services realise that you need to maintain 40% truthful reporting among 60% propaganda to maintain the illusion of normal debate.
Allowing opposition voices to speak up and fuel “debate” does not alter the overall trajectory of the policy you will impose.
So the papers are allowed to publish critical articles. But this will be overridden by the fear porn and “reluctantly” the preferred reality will be imposed.
It is just the way of working towards a predetermined end in a “democratic” society.
Vallance brushed aside the fact that more testing has resulted in more positive cases as “we see the proportion of people testing positive has increased”. HOLD ON Vallance, this is kinda crucial – you say the proportion has increased – but I look at governments own data (https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk) and in May 50,000 tests were giving 5000 positives, and now 200,000 tests are giving 4000 positives – so how has the proportion increased? Quite the opposite.
I guess he meant it has increased recently compared to how it was before, which it has. For most of June and July it was around 0.6%, yesterday it was 1.8%, 7 day rolling average maybe a bit lower than that
I have the answer Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance are on some kind of substance, Cannabis and LSD. That explains everything…..
From what I’ve read, Whitty was shaking like a shitting dog. So why is everyone swallowing the blatant, blatant lies?
More likely Diazepam.
Wrong…as a recreational user of said substances in my youth. I can tell you if this was the case they would be telling everything that this whole thing is a hoax, that they are lying to us, that we should love our fellow man and if anybody has got any crisps or doughnuts .
Something to look out for today – if you can bear to watch it. Boris Johnson saying he understands the public’s “impatience” and “frustration” and other patronising phrases. As described beautifully here:
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/covid-19-and-the-infantilization-of-dissent/
i can’t bear to watch any of the circus performances – it’s too excrutiating to hear the patronising platitudes – I read the outcome on here for which i thank this site and contributors!
Moi aussi. I actually don’t watch UK Column much any more for the same reason. They are doing excellent work, but one can get overwhelmed. But that is conscious on my part. Maybe the unawake populace simply have a much lower threshold and switch off unconsciously to anything that is a challenge to their notion of the world being rational and predictable.
Dear Dido really radiates optimism over testing:
‘The “Holy Grail” is a saliva-based test which can be operated entirely at home or in the office, rather than being processed in a laboratary, and takes just 15 minutes to show a result, Baroness Harding added. The technology to do so does not yet exist on a major scale.’
So save your spit for a better purpose. Or should I say ‘target’?
The holy grail is for every sane person to pack up their things, gather their loved ones and head to Mars on a faster-than-light space ship, so that we can colonise the planet as a place where we can happily ignore all of the nonsense happening back on Earth. The technology to do so does not exist on a major scale.
Why should the sane have to leave. Let the loonies have a go.
Put them on the B Ark.
Make sure Boris takes his rubber duck.
If we had a faster then light ship maybe we could find a more suitable planet then mars.
And if we had the technology to produce a reliable 20 minute-turnaround spit test, then everyone could be tested every day.
And if I had a unicorn, I could use it to help me catch elves and pixies.
I hope you would equip your unicorn with a vizor and protective bootees. Some of those elves play fast and loose with the Rule of Six.
You do realise a unicorn can only be captured by a virgin and as you have children I think that excludes you.
Nasty things those unicorns. I was watching an episode of Legends of Tomorrow last week where one got loose at Woodstock – paralysing people with its hallucinogenic rainbow musk, goring people to death and eating their hearts.
I think a more achievable aim is to pack all the insane people up on the Mars flight. That way it doesn’t need to be faster-than-light – in fact, it doesn’t even need to get there. Think of it as the Golgafrincham B Ark from Hitch-hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
Hi Annie. Apologies, thread hijack here – I may have missed it but I don’t recall Wendy posting on here for a bit. As I recall you used to answer her posts, so I was wondering whether you had seen anything of her.
I hope she and her Dad are OK.
And spitting will get you a stretch inside nowadays!
The charade by Whitty and Valance yesterday was the most shameful abuse of authority I have ever seen, it was totally disgusting. Anyone with eyes in their head can see that the cases (whatever that means) are not doubling every 7 days in Spain or France, so the psychopathic projections of 50,000 cases could only have been done to mislead and scare people. Shame on them. David Icke has a better grasp of reality than those two evil clowns.
Misconduct in public office
The alarm bells ring when no questions allowed
They both seem to be classic cases of ‘The Peter Principal’ in operation, they have both risen to a grade above their competence level. Consequently they lack inspiration, vision, and confidence, they display the classic symptoms of timorous, nervous, defensiveness that is the style of those who are actually working out of their depths.
To my mind our Prime Minister falls into the same category, he is way out of his depth, Mrs Thatcher would have flailed him with her handbag and eaten him for breakfast.
It is hard to always know who is right for a job and you sometimes have to back your instinct rather than just assess current experience. I think Rory Stewart would have done a far better job then Boris but he was not the immediate safe choice.
It genuinely was like watching something out of Communist Russia in the 1970s.
I thought of the very last days of the Soviet Regime as the old guard Communists tried to stop Yeltsin pulling Russia out of the USSR.
They cobbled together some new form of constitution and presented it at a news conference. Several of them were visibly shaking since they knew the game up. Most of them were in gaol a few days later.
WELCOME TO EAST GERMANY
We have no actual evidence for the actions that we are taking, but we are justifying it by looking at SPAIN. Admittedly, the evidence there is highly dubious and uncertain and if you take it at face value it proves the opposite of what we are claiming (a smaller proportion seem to be dieing with a positive test result than the percentage of the population that have positive tests). BUT WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND YOU WILL DO WHAT WE SAY.
No pubs to be open after 10pm
Table service only at pubs and restaurants.
And for our friends in Northern Ireland: no meeting in other people’s houses.
We retain our old favourites:
No meetings of more than 6 people.
Schools to be shut down if there is an ‘outbreak’ of COVID (after all, 6 people under 20 have died in the whole country, admittedly all seriously immunocompromised)
Generally, we will screw up your lives and wreck your children’s education for a disease which our own statistics office consistently shows is no worse than flu and pneumonia together.
From your loving Government
HAVE A NICE DAY !
I said last week that the rule of six was a declaration of war on the people.Can there be any doubt after that charade that the government are our enemy.
Maybe they’ve discovered that depression kills the virus.
Someone linked this article late on yesterday’s thread https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/21/fightback-against-spike-in-coronavirus-thrashed-out-at-no-10-summit
We are told Profs Heneghan and Gupta attended Sunday’s COBRA meeting because Boris wanted to hear a range of views. Yesterday’s pantomime from V&W suggests they were not able to make any inroads at all. Inconvenient truths will continue to be ignored at all costs, it seems
Apologies, SAGE meeting, not COBRA. Suffering acronym overload this morning
That’s interesting, because Gupta and Heneghan have continued firing on all cylinders. It means they didn’t experience any revelations at the meeting – no top secret info where they found out that the virus is much worse in its effects than the public have been led to believe, etc.
The fact that they put out that open letter yesterday morning suggests their views were not really taken in to account. If government decision was going to go in the direction they were suggesting there would have been no need for it.
Absolutely. I was aware of the letter, but not that they had been invited to SAGE. Apologies if everyone else already knew!
The motto:
Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying
has never been more apt
If the media leaks today are to be believed then at the very least the good news today is that there is no further ban on families meeting. However, as an avid cinema goer, surely this 10pm ban will kill them off utterly. Removing the one busy time they have meaning all films must begin by 7pm at the latest? Criminal.
I am rather afraid we don’t yet know whether that’s the case, I rather think Boris will have some more nasties to reveal today.
Getting vulnerable people to stay indoors for the winter has got to be on the list.
But wouldn’t that be going half way to what the more rational scientists have been saying? Surely Boris’s instincts will be to lock everyone in their houses for the winter.