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Operation Moonshine
We’ve been hearing for some time that the Government hopes to return to “normal” through mass testing of the population with enforced quarantine for those who fail the test. Boris Johnson has now dubbed this “Operation Moonshot” and to say it has not gone down well with experts would be an understatement. Sky has more.
The mass testing programme would cost £100bn – almost as much as the government spends on the NHS each year (£130bn) – according to a briefing memo seen by medical journal the BMJ. A separate document revealed there were plans to grow the UK’s testing capacity from the current 350,000 a day to up to 10 million a day by early 2021…
Anthony Costello, a former World Health Organisation director and UCL professor, wrote on Twitter: “The PM’s Moonshot nonsense (no science, feasibility, evidence) has been earmarked for £100bn, almost the entire NHS budget, w contracts for Astra, Serco and G4S. This is waste/corruption on a cosmic scale.” …
Dr David Strain, Clinical Senior Lecturer at the University of Exeter and chairman of the BMA’s medical academic staff committee, said the mass testing strategy is “fundamentally flawed”.
“The Prime Minister’s suggestion that this will be as simple as ‘getting a pregnancy test’ that will give results within 15 minutes is unlikely, if not impossible, in the timescale he was suggesting to get the country back on track,” he said.
Then there’s the teensy teensy problem of false positives, as the Government’s own scientific advisers have stressed.
In a document published on Friday, SAGE said the cheaper and faster tests needed for mass testing were less likely to be able to correctly identify positive and negatives than the tests currently used by NHS Test and Trace.
It said that in a population with low infections, twice-weekly tests with 99% specificity would lead to 41% of the population receiving a false positive over six months.
“In such circumstances, rapid follow-up confirmatory testing will be needed to determine whether individuals should continue to self-isolate – it is important to rapidly isolate infectious individuals, but efforts will be needed to quickly release false positives,” it said.
Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, a leading statistician at Cambridge, is unimpressed:
Statisticians are just sort of banging their heads on the wall at this, because mass screening always seems like a good idea in any disease – ‘Oh yes, let’s test everybody.’ But the huge danger is false positives – no tests are perfect, it is not a simple yes/no thing. If you only have one per cent false positives among all the people who are not infectious, and you’re testing the whole country, that’s 600,000 people unnecessarily labelled as positives.
Moonshot? More like moonshine.
Sweden Declares Victory
As Boris slams the country into reverse gear to try to hide away from the virus for the winter, Sweden’s public health agency is celebrating widespread immunity. In contrast to England, Sweden is allowing 500 people to attend seated events. No wonder travellers returning from Sweden were removed from the quarantine list last night. The Times reports:
Over the past week the country carried out more than 120,000 tests, of which only 1.3 per cent identified the disease. At the height of the pandemic the proportion was 19 per cent.
Johan Carlson, an epidemiologist and Director of the Public Health Agency, said that Swedes seemed to be benefiting from widespread immunity because of the decision not to order the population to stay at home during the first wave.
“Our strategy was consistent and sustainable,” Professor Carlson said. “We probably have a lower risk of [the virus] spreading than other countries.”…
Some scientists predicted that as many as 180,000 people could die in a country of 10.2 million. Those estimates proved to be drastically overblown: up to now there have been 5,838 COVID-19 deaths. In per capita terms this is the fifth highest death rate in Europe, behind only Belgium, the UK, Spain and Italy, but it has also fallen substantially since the summer. Only seven people died with the disease in the past week.
Sweden’s current Covid guidance? Just wash your hands, keep your distance, and stay home if ill. No masks, no legal restrictions, no closures.
The Mail also features the story, illustrated with some sexy graphs. Great to see some major newspapers challenging the Government on the folly of its suicidal suppression strategy.
Meanwhile, cases in the UK that earlier this week were declared by Government advisers to be “increasing exponentially” remain under 3,000 per day. And those areas subject to local lockdowns? Alistair Haimes has tweeted that there was never a significant increase in Bolton, while a reader has contacted us with the result of a FOI request showing that the positive test rate in Oldham never spiked.
It’s never too late to admit you were wrong, Boris.
Boris Giveth and He Taketh Away
Judith Woods in the Telegraph has penned a blistering indictment of Boris’s flip-flopping and how he giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other.
In June, our gung-ho Prime Minister reassured us that we had “turned the tide” on COVID-19. Brilliant, we thought.
In July, a bullish Boris promised that it would all be over by December, and that a normal Christmas was in prospect. Thank God, we sighed.
In August, his considered verdict was that local lockdowns would be the answer to any further outbreaks. That sounds reasonable, we nodded.
And now, not a fortnight into September, he’s outlawed gatherings of more than half-a-dozen, drafted in a load of Stasi snitches – sorry, I mean Death Marshals… – to police us, and has summarily turned Christmas into Christmiss…
This latest announcement adds up to far more than a numbers game or a few cancelled get-togethers. It was about the loss of hope, a sense of powerlessness and the stymying of our plans for the future. And that is part of what makes us human…
Cue our collective despair and tsunami of mental health issues. How can we plan for anything, big or small, when the blizzard of mixed messages is Alice in Wonderland bewildering?
One minute, it’s our patriotic duty to go to the pub and Eat Out to Help Out; the next, we are being scolded for failing to stop the spread of the virus by being out and about too much.
Daily tests are trumpeted as the ultimate solution to Covid just days after peevish accusations that we, the public, have been taking too many.
Workers are being urged to return to big offices while six is otherwise deemed the maximum safe number for any group.
Care home residents are desolate without regular visitors, which is badly impacting their health and wellbeing. Yet visitors are being kept away to avoid impacting on their health.
Worth reading in full.
Lord Sumption: Use of Fear Has Brought About the Greatest Invasion of Personal Liberty in Our History
Arch-sceptic Lord Sumption has been speaking to the Telegraph’s Allison Pearson on her Planet Normal podcast about how the Government has used fear to take our freedom away.
If you are going to inaugurate the greatest invasion of personal liberty in our entire history, even including wartime measures, if you dare to do that, then you have to move straight into justification mode.
The Government has now found itself trapped in a position where, first of all, it has to exaggerate the extent of the problem in order to justify its past actions. And secondly, by exaggerating the scale of the problem, it is contributing to the difficulty that it now faces in persuading people to go back to school and back to work, because naturally what people ask is, well, what has changed since?
The use of fear has, of course, been noticed by many people. And some members of Sage have made public statements since then saying that this was perhaps overdone, but it was a matter of deliberate policy, as it quite clearly was. “What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily.
School Sends Whole Year Group Home Because of One Case!
A father writes to tell us about the ongoing disruption to his children’s schooling from the ever-present threat of quarantines:
My two children, aged 10 and 12, finally returned to school last Wednesday, after putting up with an awful lot during the last six months. Having been away from school for so long, they were understandably nervous. However, by this week, I was pleased to see them starting to regain their confidence and enthusiasm. That was until yesterday. At lunchtime, we received a message from the school, asking us to pick up our youngest son as a matter of urgency. Apparently, someone in his bubble had received a positive PCR test result. The “bubble” in question consists of a whole year group of around 60 children, all of whom are now required to self-isolate and not see anyone outside of their own households for nine days (it would have been two weeks, but the child who tested positive hadn’t been in school this week). I said to the Head that we can’t subject our children to a whole term of this, where they go in for a few days, are subsequently imprisoned for two weeks, go back to school, and then sit there dreading their next period of incarceration. The Head looked at me wearily and shrugged her shoulders. My son then spent the evening in tears, unable to articulate what was upsetting him. Meanwhile, my oldest son has accepted that the same fate will befall him soon and has therefore lost motivation. I worry that the combination of instability, uncertainty, and social exclusion is a perfect recipe for cultivating chronic anxiety and demoralisation. How many children will go through this during the coming weeks, and how much harm will it cause them and their families? If the response were proportionate to the problem, then fair enough. But, as your readers are aware, it is not.
Covid Nation
Guy de la Bédoyère, longstanding contributor to Lockdown Sceptics, has written a “Postcard From the British Museum” about a recent trip he made to London. He wasn’t impressed, particularly by the “Covid secure” railway stations.
Getting to departures at Kings Cross is another massive Covid job-creation scheme with a battalion of hapless zombies positioned around waving at you to walk as far as possible, and past as many people as possible, to get to the trains. Has anyone actually considered how inefficient this is? It manifestly doesn’t even serve the purpose it’s supposed to. Apparently walking straight past someone through an entrance is tantamount to distributing plague like alms but walking alongside a crowd of people going in the same direction through yards and yards of corridors is ‘safe’.
In the carriage the woman opposite had a large mask clamped to her face like the hideous monster in the movie Alien and sat there in a paralysed state of self-preservation. She seemed to be totally unaware that the woman behind her was rabbiting away into her mobile phone with her mask around her neck which means that according to some Government animations she was being showered by a hailstorm of virus particles.
Worth reading in full.
Piers Corbyn Censored by YouTube
Kevin Corbett, a seasoned sceptic, has been in touch to say YouTube took down a video he posted of Piers Corbyn setting out the case against lockdowns for “violating our community guidelines”. How did it do that, exactly?
YouTube doesn’t allow content that explicitly disputes the efficacy of the World Health Organization (WHO) or local health authorities’ recommended guidance on social distancing and self-isolation that may lead people to act against that guidance. Learn more here.
The funny thing about this, as we have said many times before, is that the WHO changes its mind so often about what to recommend that it must be a full-time job for some poor drudge at the Googleplex to keep track of what the official line is. To make matters worse, some very important people are allowed to contradict WHO guidance. For instance, here’s a YouTube video of Dr Anthony Fauci saying back in March that there’s absolutely no need for ordinary American citizens to wear face masks.
Another Corbynista Sceptic Comes Out
We’re a broad church at Lockdown Sceptics, recognising that sanity can exist across the political spectrum. Our message from a Jezza fan yesterday has inspired another today:
Like the person quoted in Lockdown Sceptics latest newsletter, I too am/was a Corbyn supporter. In short, I was inspired by his message, his policies, his integrity and his person. I joined Labour in 2015 because of him. I left in 2020 when he was finally toppled.
I remain disgusted at the treatment of him by the press and broadcast media – even Peter Hitchens is with me on that one! – but most of all by his own parliamentary party.
That, by way of background, is partly to say that, yes, not all left-thinking people are following the somewhat strange supporting of lockdown.
While you [Toby] and I are probably politically miles apart, on this we are united – the current situation is ridiculous – I see too many parallels with 1930s Germany than I find comfortable.
And for what? A virus that, yes, is dangerous to some, but only as much as other viruses we see year by year. It’s hardly in the same ball park as Ebola.
All the data tells us that the models of the Oxford team led by Sunetra Gupta are much closer to what we are seeing across the country. Why Professor Ferguson keeps getting publicity, it is hard to fathom.
Anyway, more power to your elbow with the work you are doing with Lockdown Sceptics. I just needed to say, I will be certain there are many left-thinkers who will be more with you than against you!
A New Political Party
We’ve had a lot of responses to the post yesterday by a frustrated consultant about the failure of our leaders to adjust course in response to the overwhelming evidence that the continuing restrictions on our liberties are causing more harm than they’re preventing.
This gentleman thinks the answer is an anti-lockdown political party, much like the one that’s already been set up in Germany, that can contest elections, starting with the locals next May (assuming they aren’t cancelled). We are inclined to agree – although, as this reader points out, it probably shouldn’t have the word “anti” in its name!
There needs to be a democratic response with “anti-the nonsense“ candidates at each and every bye-election and possibly local elections. If possible there should be a new political party oriented to protecting our liberties and acting in the interests of the people as a whole. That is, people’s livelihoods, welfare, employment and freedom to go about their everyday business. Most of the policy focus of the major parties is on small minorities including the less than 0.5% of the population who might get seriously ill or die from COVID-19.
I see it having a “Positive Vision” mantra as an antidote to the fear and negativity of all the political parties at present.
Can anyone think of a better name than the anti-lockdown party? The Pro-Life Party? The Normal Party? The Let’s Party Party?
Round-Up
- “Boris Johnson facing Cabinet unrest over ‘rule of six’” – Half the Cabinet are reported to be unhappy, while Simon Dolan is already bringing a legal challenge
- “Confusion over ‘Covid marshals’ who will have no power to fine or arrest” – They’ll only guide and advise apparently. Police have already dismissed them as “Covid Wombles”
- “Lockdown forever” – Tom Slater in spiked says enough is enough: “Western societies once put a pretty high bar on when civil liberties should be suspended, but today the precautionary principle rules.”
- “Covid: Has Hancock gone too far this time?” – Kathy Gyngell in Conservative Woman lets hapless Hancock have both barrels
- “How will this ultra-cautious, hellish version of snakes and ladders ever get Britain back on its feet?” – Dominic Sandbrook in the Mail joins in the chorus of denunciation
- “Viral Issue Crucial Update Sept 8th: the Science, Logic and Data Explained!” – The latest update from Ivor Cummins, including: Why is Sweden different from its neighbours, America’s “second wave”, Brazil and Peru, and why we should have been building up immunity in summer
- “Record 2.2m patients faced wait for NHS treatment – as numbers TRIPLE in a year” – Why on earth does anyone still believe lockdowns save more lives than they take?
- “The Dystopian Age of the Mask” – Thomas Crew in The Critic finds mask-mania was anticipated nearly a century ago
- “UK should brace for further restrictions, warns Professor Neil Ferguson” – His model told him so
- “Government Guidance Has Failed Care Home Residents And Their Families” – An important campaign defending the right of people with dementia to have access to their family that is preparing to take legal action against the Government
- “Statistics teach us to be sceptical about ‘Operation Moonshot’” – More reasons not to be falsely positive about Operation Moonshine from Chris Smyth in the Times
- “Covid crackdowns will paralyse our society. We must learn to live with the disease” – Outstanding Telegraph editorial, which includes a quote from the Kirkham et al paper publish on Lockdown Sceptics on Wednesday
- “Ministers need to defy the instinct to lockdown” – Similarly excellent Spectator editorial
- “Boris Johnson Has Led a Fascist Coup Against the UK” – James Delingpole gets right to the point
- “Distributing vaccines and treatments for COVID-19 and flu” – Important Government consultation on the delivery of unlicensed vaccines that was snuck out at the end of August
- “Ignoring the lesson of Sweden makes a tougher Covid crackdown inevitable” – Fraser Nelson in the Telegraph on the need to follow Sweden and switch from suppression to herd immunity
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Five today: “No Strategy” by Martial Canterel, “Wrong Data” by Evan Olson, “Over Reacted” by J.U.S.T, “Hysterical Mistake” by The Sun Of Weakness, and “No Social Life” by Haymaker.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all and some will have to close again on September 14th. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 14th to Oct 23rd). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 31,500).
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
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I was reminded of this poem by Dylan Thomas today:
Rage against the plotting by the enemies of the people in our detestable government.
It is now clear that the ‘temporary sort of laws but not really’ that we initially put up with were always going to be made Law for the foreseeable future.
Supposedly in the fight against a spurious ‘pandemic’ which has burned itself out sooner than the bastards expected.
We should have known as soon as the Commons passed the government’s Coronovirus Enabling Act (in collusion with Labour), of which Hitler would have been proud, that the aim was dictatorship.
I will not be going “gently into the night”
But rather
“rage rage against the dying of the light” of Democracy.
“Lockdown Was an Overreaction” – Professor Karol Sikora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFRR58D1oW0
That’s an understatement.
Lockdown is the global resetting of power via biotech security state and carbon guilt regs to a technocratic system of control that has no life it it – and no sense of allowing the net to be loose enough to let life live in it.
The pretext was a blitzkrieg of shock-trauma through our trojan horse of a medical model following the science that it curates.
Triggernometry is brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLK0r6Ha5sM
New York Post Lockdown “A Big Mistake”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-EYl1QI_h4
Sky News Australia
Liberal MP Craig Kelly says there has been study after study that shows that Hydroxychloroquine, when administered early, can “lower the rates of infections” of COVID-19.
The Chinese told us that chloroquine showed promise in the treatment of Covid-19 back in January. So western ‘governments’ promptly denied safe, cheap (hydroxy)chloroquine to their populations.
Yes – the important word there being ”cheap”. They don’t like ”cheap”.
For some reason they don’t like ”effective” either.
Not so much don’t like cheap as hate Trump.
He promoted it, so everyone else had to oppose it.
But they love wasting your tax money.
And wasted Billions of dollars, euros, pesos etc instead.
Oh don’t worry someone swept it all up.
Hello,
Why I don’t believe everything the Chinese government tells us in a population over a billion you’d expect more than several thousand deaths.
Again we must be very sceptical, but when other countries are getting the same response you must wonder why have our government let us down so much. Why?
You think there are not ‘incentives’ at work?
I know Belarus may not be the most trustworthy witness, but we in Uk have a Gated government, a Gated media and a Covid Health Service running as a PPP.
Perhaps you should also give the link to our very own John Campbell who, on his Youtube channel a week or two ago, cited many trials that had been done showing HCQ to be effective. This needs to be disseminated far and wide.
And Sky News Australia also discussed ‘Ivermectin’ that had been trialled and tested by one of their very own top scientists, showing its effectiveness against the virus. And the Australian government have chosen to ignore it.
do you have the link?
The underlying reason is worth giving attention to – as the way to get zinc into cells that haven’t enough.
Perhaps its worth understanding more than just ‘the fix’.
Vit C and Cit D are both very significant in the nature of outcomes.
On the other side is a raft of toxicity and immune dysfunction – some of which is environmental and some the polypharmacy of ‘other fixes’.
I watched a recent video of Piers Corbyn being interviewed by Piers Morgan in which Corbyn said that hydroxychloroquin was a cure. Morgan then shouted him down saying that that was an outright lie. Unbelievable. But then so much in this whole thing is unbelievable.
What WONT some people do for money or to save face, prestige and privilege?
Look at our ‘politicians’!
But it doesn’t cost a 100 Billion pounds of your money. No good.
Viral Issue Crucial Update Sept 8th: the Science, Logic and Data Explained!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac
Ivor Cummins
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The jury is in on Hydroxychloroquine – ‘it saves lives’: Rowan Dean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q5teMsw2h4
Yes, we’ve known about HCQ since early on and so have the government, sage and the media but they used Donald’s promotion of it to demonize HCQ as ineffective and evil
Thank goodness for Sky News Australia.
John Campbell on his Youtube channel also discussed HCQ and showed the published reports on its effectiveness.
Don’t forget the trials when they poisoned patients with massive doses of HCQ, then said it will kill people rather than help them recover, or indeed prevent them suffering in the first place.
That idiot Witty insisted on the UK doing full trials and then they used the dose for hydroxyquinoline 9a completely different drug) for the HCQ trial. Very lucky that they didn’t kill anyone as it was about 6 x normal dosing for HCQ. And they managed to keep it very quiet.
I don’t know where my earlier post disappeared to , but here goes again …
A couple of links that might be of value
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3911619435519082&set=gm.236037377814133
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10221563415768344&set=gm.235618901189314
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8720105/Cabinet-war-rule-six-minister-committee-argued-against-stringent-ban.html
It’s hard to believe that such an ineffectual little squit like mancock could be the brains behind all this, there must be someone else pulling his plonker and johnsons.
Excellent piece by Littlejohn in the same edition.
Comparing Covid Marshalls to Warden Hodges in Dad’s Army
“Who do you think you are kidding mr johnson ?”
Alex’s Droogs.
UK Collumn showed legislation in which marshals had power to remove peple to a place of testing and if positive to a place of quarantine.
So I suspect a Dad’s Army ridicule is the cover for regs that will turn out to have teeth.
Apparently everybody except Handjob wanted the number to be eight.
Big, biiiiiig deal.
Thought you might recognise the quote Annie.
Christ I thought you were joking! Apparently not according to the Mail. FFS!!
Wow, 8, such libertarians.
The others were still in favour of the principle. They wanted the limit at 8 or perhaps slightly more. The others are in reality just as bad as Al Johnson and Handy Cock. They are all a crock of shit.
I agree, but I do think any evidence of pushback against MH in the cabinet is good news.
The media have degenerated into little more than playground gossip spreaders. (“Did you hear that…”) Their main purpose to generate the biggest possible reaction, rather than to inform.
So who the heck knows if Johnson was cautious and Hancock pushed it through. I don’t know that Johnson didn’t arrange to have that story pushed to The Daily Mail gossip rage to put himself on the fence and make sure Hancock takes the hit, if there is one.
I literally don’t believe a single word these professional gossipers write or say.
When they are not presenting what Tracey has to say on twatter as news
Matt H’s hero is obviously Mad Dan Andrews in Melbourne (he’s even mentioning curfew!) I imagine he sits salivating as he watches Mad Dan’s briefings.
I got as far as: ‘everyone else on the Committee wanted to set the limit at 8 …..’. Hardly reassuring
If that were true – then is Boris following a dictate that the others on some level know they cannot really argue with. Does anyone REALLY believe the great statesman himself wrestles with problems of state?
EVERY news headline is liable to serve a narrative for those who want to control the narrative. Keeping people hanging on in vain hope of change is the cover for active change of structure or borders while seeming to be in some process of deliberations.
Oh, I’m raging alright.
You can’t negotiate or petition or reason with fascists- don’t try.
There is no new virus. “COVID” is just a new label for Pneumonia. RT-qPCR is not a test- it is a manufacturing process.
The “excess” deaths are from the elderly with co-morbidities that are routinely killed when they contract flu and pneumonia. This was compounded and accelerated by aborted end-of-life care as policy- those are crimes.
Take 500,000 deaths, divide by 40 PCR cycles, subtract database matches, subtract nursing home slaughter, subtract deaths of despair and delayed care, subtract the lives ventilators destroyed- aka medical malpractice, net out a typical flu season… anything left?
You pretty much nailed it. I looked at the chart for our province of Ontario on the Statistics Canada web site for all-cause mortality from January – June, 2015-2020. Even our “spike” was not unusual and slightly lower than 2018. The only unusual thing about the first 6 months of 2020 was the precipitous DROP in deaths from May onward. They can’t fudge all-cause mortality, and if you look at the chart and didn’t know there was a thing called Covid-19, you’d say 2020 was a very ordinary year. I was also on a call tonight and the doctor presenting said she thinks Ontario is using 45 PCR cycles and, if so, we’ll get tons of false positives. One of our own health officials said at a press conference a while back that when the incidence of infection in the population is low, the PCR test will yield a false positive around 50% of the time. WTF is going on??? A rhetorical question I ask myself every day.
2**45? Really? That’s 32 trillion strands from each originating strand of RNA. Interstellar space would show positive with that!
Indeed.
Didn’t someone say that at 40+ cycles even water could test positive?
It does.
Someone tested water and it eventually showed positive
More and more people, out there, not just here, are now aware of the tiny number if recent deaths and that ordinary flu is more dangerous and is not prevented by all the Covid safety nonsense.
It’s still hardly anybody. Most people think its certain death if they “catch” the Rona and certain death for Dad, Mum and Granny and Grampa.
Beg to differ Two-Six; most* people now say it’s nonsense and not at my instigation but I can’t help when they ask “why ?”.
*I don’t talk to maskoids so a bit self selecting.
OK, not most, it’s hard to qualify…So people don’t think its as deadly now but they still usually say, “well I still don’t want to catch it” and wearing masks is just such a visible sign that so many people really believe the fairy tale.
That said, in rural areas away from towns more rural folk seem pretty relaxed about it and a bit more sceptical.
To those who have, more shall be given
Critical awareness is not the me as opinionated mass reaction.
Quality of intelligence is integrative.
Quantity of groupthink is a puppet dictate.
The latter can be very effective in the short term, especially in destructive acts. But it wont run a society.
THEY think A.I is going to do that for the, perhaps?
The Robert Koch Institute in Germany does a regular report on the influenza season.It tracks respiratory diseases as part of its so-called ‘Sentinel’ programme. In its latest bulletin it says the following [my translation]: ‘Since September 2019 up to now, SARS-CoV-2 was detected in 13 (0,3 %) out of a total of 4,132 analysed tests. Since April 2020 no more indications of SARS-CoV-2 have occurred in the Sentinel data.’
https://influenza.rki.de/Wochenberichte/2019_2020/2020-36.pdf
No more Covid?
Bodo Schiffmann, the now most famous doctor in Germany, has been pointing this out for months and uses this as his argument to end restrictions.
Succinct and, in my opinion, true! Just going to have to live in the underground…
Never attribute to foolishness what can be just as easily be attributed to malice.
You can have bith in the same person. And more. It’s called Evil.
Or trickery.
Youtiube is destroying itself – it would have gone under years ago had it not been for three letter agency finance. But there are alternatives, Brandnewtube, Bitchute, Brighteon and so on.
They all seem to be following the same path. Google, Facebook, Twitter. They start off with a free service, open platforms etc. Seems like a very progressive thing. But it’s like giving away free printers that only run on a specific printer ink. Then you start charging for the ink.
Once the market is established, monopoly style, you can then jack up the price of admission. People have put so much effort into their content, to move would be a huge step and so they coalesce to the new normal.
I can’t get Bit Chute videos to play on my tablet. Haven’t tried the others.
How about “The Civil Rights and Liberties Party”. Since that’s what it’s really all about.
What about ‘the Human Party’?
“The Human League”
Like it.
‘The Anti Nowhere League?’ https://youtu.be/IF5lKBR9yBc?list=PLUReCMZF7aV0CO6wkpO_JUPYrl81pvlM7
The League of Nations. Reset the U.N.!
The Natural Liberty Party.
That’s what all of us on here believe in. We have a natural and intrinsic right to liberty, one that cannot and mustn’t be infringed under any circumstances. As opposed to civil liberty which is manufactured and granted to us by society as a whole.
That’s the best suggestion I’ve seen.
The Truth & Liberty Party
The Facts & Freedom Party
The Sensible Party
The Keep Calm & Carry On Party
Or just the Carry On Party?
Why not just ‘The Freedom Party’?
The “Sweden was right” Party!
The Winner takes it all party
In the same vein The SOS party
Never Mind the Bollocks Party.
why not just overwhelm a current party…like the libertarian party
100% this. I am a member of Libertarian Party in UK and it’s crying out for a large cohort of willing people to grab the proverbial bull by the horns and take the message of liberty to the masses! the foundations are already there and the electorate is there for the taking!
Robin Tillbrook, who advertises on this site, is a member of the English Democrats…
The Party of the Sane?
Freedom Party is best suggestion.
Probably is.
Unfortunately, we need something, some mode of action right now.
Leaflets, posters, sticky labels. Not a massive impact, but can be done now by anyone.
The Rational Party?
Vote Rational.
Be Rational, are you a Rationalist or a Hysteric etc etc
Magna Carta Party.
Some of these names may already be registered. My contribution:
The People United Party.
Emphasizes the ordinary person over the ruling classes, emphasizes solidarity of purpose above normal political left/right distinctions. United in common humanity, against anything which destroys human flourishing e.g. viewing others as diseased.
PUP ?
They are cute!
I think that the only way out of this is to prove that the Govt, their departments and the press have been decieving us with their graphs and numbers and I do now see a chink in their armour. Today, people talked about the government graph of positive tests and how it is disegenuous because it combines pilar1 tests (NHS labs) which have remained flat and pillar 2 (commercial labs) which are creating more positives hence driving the increase. Would I be cynical for assuming that commercial labs have an incentive for producing positive results because if they could not find any then their services would no longer be required and they would be off the gravy train? PHE themselves issued revised instructions to the labs last week intended to reduce the number of false positive tests. This change, which was clearly driven by King Carl, was a wishy washy attempt to address the issue. It goes nowhere near what we need to know, which is, does a positive test result represent a person who has sufficient viral load to be infectious and a threat to others? If we do not know this we are depriving thousands or millions of… Read more »
The evidence is already collated – see Ivor Cummings recent video
I watched Ivor Cummings today and he is very very good at explaining what we already know.
What I am looking for is what we do not know.
For example, is there somebody reading here who works in a testing lab who can enlighten us of their procedures, their Ct used and other info we are missing to enable us to see what is really going on.
Bob T, since I read the PHE paper about the proposed changes in the testing regime, I have been thinking the same thing. Carl Heneghan suggested that the number of cycles needed to achieve a positive PCR test should be lowered to 30. I think that it is 35 in Uraguay and they seem to have done very well compared with their neighbours.
The cynic in me is wondering how the government will explain the number of positive pillar two tests dropping, as they no doubt will. Could the government then claim that it was the rule of six “what did it”?
That’s the real problem with the test, and was the main reason why the inventor said it was qualitative and not quantitative to be used for diagnosis by itself. 30 steps is still 1 trillion strands per originating strand.
It should be relatively easy to calibrate the test. If a person is asymptomatic but tests “positive”, retest with fewer steps until it’s just negative. Test someone with mild symptoms with the previous lowest number of steps.
Also need to ensure that the various agents used in the test cannot detect human DNA particularly gene 8.
Testing asymptomatic people is putting the cart before the horse and doesn’t tell you if the person has an infection nor if they are infectious.
Quantitative q-PCR is tantamount to witchcraft (too many input variables before amplification).
And the PCR test should always be backed up by a gold standard test to calibrate the PCR and avoid the detection of phantom outbreaks.
Though thrice daily tests for Hancock and Alexander sounds like a good idea…
I can confidently tell you that unambiguous positives have a Ct of 20-30, and anything about that is dubious. 35 is really pushing it, and 40 is insanely too high. Labs set their cut-offs close to or even beyond 40. [all this also depends on reaction to reaction variation, and variation between assay designs, both factors adding error bars of about 2-4 cycles]
I think we all just have to keep posting links and data as much as we can. The Governments own Coronavirus site is an absolute smoking gun! I’ve been looking at the NHS England Daily Covid-19 death data sheets for months not knowing this even existed.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare
Anyone whose not beside themselves with terror just needs to spend 5 minutes there and the spell will be broken.
If coronavirus is such a dangerous disease which produces severe symptoms why is necessary to carry out tests to see if people have the disease rather than diagnose on symptoms alone. For instance, the bubonic plague had such horrific symptoms testing would not be necessary to determine if someone had the disease. In addition why why is it necessary to rely on tests where it is uncertain how reliable the tests are.
I agree – I am struggling to comprehend why the gov’t are aiming to test so many who are asymptomatic – have we ever tested asymptomatic people for disease? Do you meet someone and say ‘you look well’ – then say ‘or have you got asymptomatic covid’? You would never call a doctor and say you want to see them because you’re asymptomatic! This just doesn’t sit right?
Yes, I live on a littleCaribbean Island with zero infections and maybe 1 or 2 deaths. Luckily we have not suffered quite what you describe politically but, we have none of the western world’s furlough or support schemes. Pensions and the minuscule benefits are not being paid because the government is now broke. We depend on tourism and people have lost their livelihoods and yes, we are now seeing a rise in beggars on the streets, and in the last few weeks a significant rise in robberies and crime. Before the nutty reaction to Covid we were an essentially crime free country.. What a fuck up.
That’s the whole idea. The same will happen here in the UK when the furlough scheme ends. Then our benevolent overlords (or overlard, in the case of Blowjob) can impose martial law on a grateful populace of maskies.
The street people will be more numerous than Boris’s Droogs. Street Fighting People.
What a sorry mess our political leaders have made, and it seems to be deliberate too.
While complaining about residents being sent 150 miles for a Covid test and schools having only ten kits each Council Leader says
“The Government must up its game before the Second Wave comes in Autumn”
Is he just speculating or has he been Officially Informed about something which we haven’t ( but may well have suspected) ?
I suspect that if you test every case of the flu for covid, many will come up positive. Under zero tolerance, panic will surely follow. They’ve moved the goalposts so much that their positions are unfalsifiable. Kind of like Obama’s millions of jobs gained or saved…
No covid will be proof that liberty cannot be restored, just as ANY covid will be proof of the same.
Thanks Ryan but that wasn’t the question. (sorry to sound a bit terse but I’m f*cking angry this morning this ‘Rule of 6’ bollocks is just the beginning and it’s becoming clear that it’s all been planned in advance).
Has the Council Leader opened the Sealed Envelope from Whitehall with instructions on how proceed with the next part of the coup against us ?
Perhaps. But maybe just stupid. My governor established a “plan” called “safe start Washington.” His criteria are literally impossible in many counties. False positives alone will mean his ridiculous benchmarks are never met. He has put “safe start” on hold, indefinitely… Or, rather, out past the November elections.
He is power hungry, and he is taking full advantage of a convenient “crisis” and the fact that fearful people are compliant. But he is not competent enough to plan any of this in advance. Only opportunistic and fully lacking in morals and personal integrity.
I imagine this describes your government as well.
I think nowadays it’s a whatsapp message. Sent at 4am daily to frighten us with the next Coronabollix.
And there’s a weekly plan, I think week 38 is being rolled out now. Some evil orc somewhere has a projection plan with this all mapped out.
I am just making this up but sadly it is very believable.
Far from it. One of the Conservative MPs was on Politics Live yesterday and said “All the evidence shows we are at the beginning of a second wave”
They are idiots, liars, alarmist, whatever. They will never think for themselves
The latest research shows anything past 33 cycles is 100% false positive.
The uk uses 45 cycles for the test.
Even at 33 cycles, it’s only 12% accurate. 34 cycles zero % accurate.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlistairHaimes/status/1304289648517222407
There is an excellent reply to that showing you just how complex it is and maybe even just setting a broad threshold across all labs for cycles would be disingenuous. It would need to be different depending on a range of factors.
https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1304220045032058881
So it’s just as much about the individual labs process rather than the specific technologies used
All in all though, it only serves to foggy the waters further and yet we continue to lockdown people in contravention of their human rights.
Yes, why say autumn when most assume flu viruses and similar seasonal ones are expected more in winter.
Sounds like Boris is asking people to avoid being tested…
And dammit, I wish the US would declare victory and be done with it. But we are stretching this “crisis” out as far as possible. Today, I said to a friend that this is over in our county… She replied that it’s very far from over. People are still testing positive, she says. Palm to face. We so horribly lack perspective, and we need to wake up fast!
They don’t care if we get tested or not, they can just make up any old numbers they like as with their ‘R’ number until they got sussed on that lie among many others.
I would like to know what happened to their traffic light system, back in May, where by their own definition we should now be ‘green’ and thus back to normal.
Remember when it was first announced level 1 was only possible with a vaccine.Later versions dropped that.Has anyone got a copy of the original
Best not to expect consistency from the bastards.
Quebec has re-instated its traffic light system.
I check the LA Times every now and then. It seems they’re mystified as to why the super spreader bullshit hasn’t had the effects they’d claimed.
I suspect the Covid pandemic won’t be over in the U.S. until and unless Biden wins the Presidency.
But I could be wrong, and he could announce a countrywide lockdown, complete with curfew for the indefinite future.
Imagine the improvement in quality of life if all this money were spent on treatment for normal health problems? I have developed an algorithm showing conclusively that life expectancy would rise by 8.2 years and quality of life by an astounding 142.6% if the same money were spent on regular health services over the next ten years. It’s only a model, but it is highly accurate. If the model is not followed, I can confidently forecast that this improvement will be lost. Instead of waiting lists, there would be phone calls to see if you need anything. GP’s would visit you at home. Knees and hips would be replaced on demand, monthly if necessary. MRI scans would be same day, brought to you at home or the office. Mobile A&E would be on standby in city centres at weekends, with hotel rooms if you need a bit of a lie down. The obese would have a personal trainer, dietician and chef. Seriously, what kind of cost-benefit analysis is anyone doing? Each year we have bitter arguments about +- £10 billion for the health service, and here we are throwing £300 billion at a shrimp of a problem. The first rule… Read more »
Great, if the NHS is going to be a bit flush I’ll self identify as obese to get the benefits of a personal trainer, dietician and chef, send the shopping bills to the DoWP, ta.
That ridiculous sum of £100 billion for johnsons moonshine project is to create a Contragate type slush fund in furtherance of their evil plans against us.
Who are PM Johnson’s closest advisors?
His dad and his live in mistress.
Surely preventitive medical treatments , nutritional and exercise advice etc. would be more beneficial and cost effective in the long run?
But this isn’t about our health, is it?
Yes, I often imagine the utopia we could have achieved if we had spent freely on adult social care, youth services, schools and all the other things that have been cut to the bone in the last decade. We were told there was no money.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8720321/Professor-KAROL-SIKORA-sees-trouble-ahead-Boris-Johnsons-new-coronavirus-guidance.html
This ridiculous rule of 6 poses a real danger – Britain losing its faith in its leaders: KAROL SIKORA says the government has been successful at spreading fear, and not much else
I found this interesting letter on masks and the WHO being influenced to change their stance.
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/sammy-wilson-right-there-no-need-compulsory-masks-shops-2929727
I was horrified when browsing my blog last night to read about a 4 year old in the USA having to wear a mask at pre- school. How can anyone treat children like this?
The masks are just a diversion tactic to distract us from whatever they are really planning.
Like in WW2, the phoney Allied Army in Kent supposedly threatening the Pas de Calaise.
I liked what Toby said on his last podcast. Rings true for the US as well. These people couldn’t organize a lunch, much less carry out a conspiracy. I attribute my government’s failures to stupidity, groupthink, and self-preservation at all costs.
I would like to believe that, and did, but there are other actions that then challenge this. To mention a few that come to mind iver my morning toast, the deliberate use of fear, as per SAGE recommendations, the creation of the Coronavirus Bill, but using the 1984 act to avoid parliamentary scrutiny, granting indemnity for the NHS at the onset, as per the Bill, going to great lengths in the media to suppress opposing narratives including protests etc.
It has all been planned. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.
Using the 1984 Act unlawfully. It was designed for use ‘against’ infected persons or groups not the whole population.
Not so stupid after all.
They couldn’t, but the people they get their orders from are a bit sharper.
I used to think they were making it up as they went along Ryan, now I think they planned it but don’t know what ‘it’ is, they probably don’t either.
Just like 9/11 was orchestrated by men in suits, not in farmers in caves, to justify invading Afghanistan Iraq.
A shill’s gotta shill.
Public Schools are online-only in my state. We send our kids to private school, but we’re homeschooling this fall because of mandatory masks/distancing/etc…
Our kids are 6 and 8. Yes, it’s child abuse. Absolutely despicable.
Fell into that old confusion again.
US Public school = state school
UK Public school =private school
That’s an example where I think the US terminology is actually more sensible. Another is “sidewalk” rather than “pavement” since most of them are tarmac rather than paving!
Tarmacment?
https://youtu.be/Bw51IudGNb8
Deborah Cohen was told in this Newsnight report that the policy on face masks was changed due to polticial lobbying, not due to scientific proof of efficacy.
Great link.
Yes our Government lobbied the WHO to change their view on mask so that they could implement it in the UK
This is a Conspiracy, not a Theory about a possible Conspiracy.
Perhaps Thailand should have followed Pakistans path, abandoning lockdown because they simply could not afford it economically, no change in Covids trajectory.
Per Toby’s text
Speigelhalter was on Radio 4 yesterday, decidedly fence sitting.
At one point he said something to the effect
‘Everybody thinks it’s only the very old that are at risk and while it is true that young people appear to be immune to the effects of infection, people in their 50s an 60s are 7(?) times more likely to be seriously affected by Covid than those in their 40s’.
What he did not say is that the danger is still minute compared to people aged 80+.
Multiples of small numbers. You are a thousand times more likely to win a slot machine than a Powerball.
It’s pretty easy to cite to statistics in ways that support whatever you want.
Look at how the US CDC informs about the risk posed by this virus. No context. Just the most scary representation possible.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html
7 times fuck-all is still fuck-all.
Well yes, that’s one way of putting it.
They love to throw out those numbers in the air. Really sleazy.
Infantile.
I nominate “Old Normal Club” as the name of the political party.
Do face masks cause you severe distress?
Do you make evidence-based decisions?
Do you respond to risks proportionately?
Did you ever think that inviting your friends to your home would be made illegal?
Join the Old Normal Club.
Everyone welcome!
No, face masks do not cause me severe distress since I don’t wear them because they piss me off.
Read this quote about Oliver Cromwell this morning.
“human nature won through, of course. In many localities these Puritan regulations were scarely enforced. But they have rather defined Cromwell’s place in history. He never became King Oliver, but he was crowned King Kill-Joy – And when her died [] there was dancing in the streets.” -Robert Lacey Great tales from English History
Sound familiar?
Let’s hope it doesn’t take as long as the civil wars did!
Anybody in the Smoke fancy doing an antifa commando, hanging a placard on the statue of Cromwell outside Parliament
” Cromwell, my Hero signed Boris :
Bring back Martha & The Vandellas.
The East Germans eventually succeeded, so can we.
A letter to write to your MP
Why can’t you be tested at your GP?
What’s the point of being tested if you are not ill?
Why isn’t there a massive catch up programme in the NHS for all other conditions from cancer to knee operation?
Why has the Prime Minister become a puppet of Chris Whitty and Matt Hancock?
Why is Matt Hancock still Health Secretary? He seems to believe that one death from Covid 19 is a hundred times worse that ten deaths from cancer and heart disease.
Peru has been on a strict military lockdown since 16th March and yet it now has the highest death rate in the word (after San Marino). Lockdowns don’t work.
Yet, when you try to argue masks, you will always be met with: “see, our numbers are down. Masks work!” Or “just look at Hong Kong, South Korea, Singapore, and Japan. They all wear masks.”
Correlation is important… Until it’s not.
As they say correlation does not equate to causation. If anyone makes similar comments about the correlation of mask wearing, I debunk them other correlations, such as equally maybe they faired better because they consume more fish per head of population, their ratio of young to elderly, more humidity, warmer winters, their care home set up, where many of our deaths were and so on.
That part of the world has also had a higher exposure to previous SARs type viruses, so maybe more herd immunity.
No proof of causation of a specific disease has been established for the novel virus. This statement can be extended but start there. Causation is assumed, believed and fitted to as dogma. Parallel: the accusation and assignment to cholesterol and saturated fats of causing heart disease was ‘The Science’ that had been effectively bought and run for 30-40 years before lack of evidential support correlated with the PR campaigns that operated corporate and government interests in setting such a narrative – and consequent food control system (Big Ag based on oil and chemicals). An underlying pattern can be observed in the demonising of the naturally evolved adaptation, for novel forms of capture, control and defence against disclosure. These are presented as progress or new and improved, necessary or moral protections against our demonisation for their toxic results. The biosecurity state is a replacement of human love and life (for all our faults), with a built in guilted control system – whether as carbon units, infection vectors or narrative-critical awareness (non compliance under Thought control). Is this the end of the human experience to the beginning of the human experiment? In some ways it has always been both – at least… Read more »
They wear masks because pollution levels are high.
And as Japan has demonstrated they have also unleashed a host of psychological and communication problems.
A good correlation to make is that Japan has had an obsessive mask wearing culture for a decade.
Millions of people in Japan wear masks in all public areas.
Japan has a higher rate of seasonal flu than the US or Europe.
If masks worked against respiratory viruses, it would be lower.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/influenza-pneumonia/by-country/
Singapore got its Nosocomial infection rate down to statistical zero in March by being absolutely rabid about handwashing.
Masks and anti-social distancing are just kabuki theatre.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239747
I refuse to be tested. I am not sick nor have I been sick. They can all go hang!
Carry on ranting, you rant the truth, live the truth snd act the truth. You are human. These days it’s my highest accolade.
The Ranting & Raving Party.
Please, please, friends, support the Crowdjustice appeal for a judicial review of care home policy (link in Toby’s reference list above).
Of all the appalling evils currently being inflicted on this country, the torture of old people denied human contact – and the torture of their loved ones kept away – is surely the worst. I thank God that my father did not live for him and us to suffer this horror, but I know that some here have experienced it. Surely there must be one judge out there with a remnant of humanity?
https://autonomy.essex.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/NMCF-Webinar-3-Slides-to-Post.pptx
.. and the point is Tom?
Sorry, just trying to provide some useful info from the National Mental Capacity Forum. A bit technical but their message is clear – the Mental Capacity Act remains in place as does Article 8. Visits should be going ahead. Tailored if necessary but no blanket decisions. I’d advise Annie to arm herself with some advice from the forum and/or even contact the chair Baroness Ilora Finlay.
http://autonomy.essex.ac.uk/covid-19/
My mother in laws care home was opened for 2 weeks but is closed because someone tested positive!! Seriously I doubt we will ever see her again.
Eliminate the old folks, erase history.
You are missing the point Richard. People die, especially old people.
But they should not die alone and neglected. They should not die unhappily, having been denied contact with members of their family.
This cruelty seems to be based on the mistaken belief that quantity of life is preferable to quality of life (it never is), but denied the love and support of family at least some of these people are likely to lose the will to live and consequently their lives will be shortened anyway.
Please tell me that the media has seen this! It should be front page news:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu
rushed vaccines, administered by untrained professionals, with no consequences for the manufactures.
I posted this the other day – I am absolutely baffled why it hasn’t created a bigger fuss. They are planning to roll out the vaccine without even waiting for it to be licensed.
Most people don’t know that pharmaceutical companies are shielded from any legal liabilities stemming from adverse reactions to vaccines. (Not new, has been the case for a long time.)
And when you tell them, they don’t believe it.
They don’t want to believe it, because they would have to look further – and they don’t want to uncover what is hidden there. Keep the mask on and pretend you don’t know – because the alternative is more terrifying.
Nor tested properly.Its already paralysed some poor soul
It was extensively discussed here in late August I think, or possibly early Sept. Links were provided to the ‘Reply Online’ document, the consultation document, and I copied my responses to all the questions, to give anyone wanting to respond a start. Can only suggest you have a look, I know my item was about the next to last one late night. Best of luck with your reply, time limit is 18 Sept.
This is a 30 minute video on Facebook posted by Freedom Media Platform which sets out very clearly why we should all be very concerned about this proposed legislation, and suggested responses are also given here. I’ve been spreading the word far and wide.
All to complete this before 11.59 tonight
https://consultations.dhsc.gov.uk/5f43b8aca0980b6fc0198f9f
Look up ‘The Jab’ on YTube. It is short, entertaining, very to the point, and very relevant.
You’d get my vote.
Just doing a reality check, as far as the UK is concerned, is this virus currently doing anything? I find hospital stats hard to establish but as far as I can see 0.0016% of the population are currently in hospital with Covid19. The last weekly ONS registered death stats showed that Covid 19 accounted for just over 1% of the total deaths for that week, with around 70% being people aged over 75. If I had just landed from Mars I would be mystified as to why this disease was not just on the list of public health concerns like chicken pox, mumps, flu, cancer, diabetes etc. With health control resources being spread around those problems in appropriate proportions. As Covid is clearly a major issue for a specific age group I would expect control measures to be particularly aimed at guidance and support to that age group. Have I got this right? If so, one can only conclude that one of the unrecorded effects of SARS-Cov2 virus is to create a miasma over the whole population causing most people to loose any sense of reality and turn the control of a virus into a cult religion, with everyone expected… Read more »
It’s clearly attenuated.
There’s no evidence that it has. We’re just doing more testing. The true number of infections in March was a few tens of millions which is how many you need to get noticeable amounts of excess death. Obviously we don’t have that many infections any more because so many people are immune.
I had often had the thought that if I had just appeared within the human experience, I would wonder what great shock had occurred that everyone was so psychically locked down and normalised to masking over and masking in as their social model of conditions, perceptions and responses. (Precovid). The breaking of the normal by a reiteration or re-invoking of such shock or ‘separation trauma’ is the resetting of the god idea as ‘control’ or lording it over – rather than the idea of life as One, and its expressions as of a kind each according to their kind. You may not be able to read that because the masking of a mind is itself a defence against disclosure to fears that are as a result unnameable – for the mind operates the naming of asserted meanings rather than an awareness of discerned qualities. But the fear-mind effectively covers over and usurps a direct relational awareness (or being) by modelling its reality as a gesture of control, and identifies in control in fear of loss of self. And so the recognition of the model or imagination or possible way of seeing, for what it is rather than using it for… Read more »
I’ve caught a cold – blocked nose, sore throat, hacking chesty cough. Not surprising as lots of bugs circulate at this time of year but I just find it interesting that despite all the masks, visors, screens, event bans, constant disinfection of every surface, handwashing, and social distancing, viruses still find a way to spread…!
How far will you have to travel for your test Poppy ?
DONT test
As Johan Giesecke said in his letter to the Lancet on 5 May:
“… our most important task is not to stop spread, which is all but futile, but to concentrate on giving the unfortunate victims optimal care.”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31035-7/fulltext
The change in seasons also does trigger colds. None of what you’ve mentioned ever work save for hand washing, its all about show.
Vitamin C, Echinacia, lettuce. Hope you shrug it off soon. Have you got ANY idea where you “Became Infected” with “IT”?
I mean this OTHER CORONA VIRUS, you know not the bad one but the “GOOD” ones that we normally have.
Vitamin C in something other than supplements though… Just eat what you normally eat and don’t worry so you don’t stress surely should be the mantra for good health rather than trying to force your body to break down things it’s not used to. Eating liver will net you more vitamins than fruit and veg yet supposedly they’re the better option despite the high sugar content in fruit.
It’s the same here Poppy, shock horror, how are these other viruses getting through the masks😷 OH lined up a couple of weeks ago behind a queue of people waiting for a test in our local area. not 1 positive result. same viruses going round year in year out.
Singapore got its Nosocomial infection rate down to statistical zero by being absolutely rabid about handwashing.
Masks and all the anti-social distancing are kabuki theatre.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=239747
Kabuki Theatre is a lot more spiritual than what we are being told to do.
Sneaky little #$%@#%#!
Colds are verboten! Sneezing? Verboten! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
BBC R2 News 06.30 Friday.
DoWP busted by ‘health & Safety for “failing to maintain Social Distancing in a place of work”.
LOLZ ☆ that’s with most of them ‘working from home’.
Story could be a plant for the encouragement of others.
Perhaps they live too close together?
New party name? ‘Prosperity’
Sorry, but that sounds like valuing money over lives – some people would say.
I think the new party needs to avoid the use of “UK” or “Britain” in the name, with no union jacks anywhere, and no pound signs. Even its colours should not be those of the union jack. I’m sorry to say it, but the leader should not be a late middle-aged man in a blazer who drives a Jag.
Errrrr……..people have always voted for money, not lives….but prosperity is just a motherhood and apple pie word. It’s what everyone wants, nothing much more…all the rest is hot air….in any case a new party is not the answer but naming it is a good game.
If you had a dollar sign as the party logo, then, maybe, I’d agree with you.
But I notice you don’t stick your neck out with an alternative for the rest of us to shoot at…
Possibly something like “independence” or “liberty.” Simple is good – provided it has an equally simple and relevant slogan. “Prosperity” would be just fine, if it was followed by an explanation, indicating that you value not just economy, but community, health… Only through “these things” can we truly prosper.
In other words, it is a balancing of values. Life does not exist to serve a single issue in a vacuum. By focusing solely on mitigating the impacts of covid, not only do we lose sight of, but we greatly diminish those things that make life worth preserving.
Or why not call it ‘Diana Rigg’ in honour of that icon?
Mrs Emma Peel. Like Member of European Parliament.
Keep it simple stupid Party.
I did add “…some people would say”. I should think it’s obvious that I know that the economy is life – otherwise why would I be here? But I’m trying to forestall the Guardian and BBC portraying the new party as “gammons” – as they will desperately be trying to do.
Sorry to have hurt your feelings.
No need……..
What the guardian and the bbc say, they will say whatever the name.
I’ve got it……’The Avengers’!
What did Steed and Mrs Peel think about the government? Not much.
So all the measures and the money spent on a problem hasn’t worked so we double down and spend more and more money. And make restrictions after restrictions while the evidence that you could have followed Sweden is right there?
We are burning the village to save it.
That is criminal use of my tax payers money.
It’s a really good job that I have never managed to earn enough to pay any tax on!
Is this what Hillary Clinton meant when she said ‘it takes a village’?
A good point from Heneghan on Spectator TV last night. If you are alarmed by rising “hospitalisations”, remember that if you are in hospital for an in-growing toenail but test positive for C19 you count as a C19 hospitalisation. So the more the NHS resumes its actual job, the more “hospitalisations” will occur, even if the prevalence of the virus is flat (or zero, but with false positives).
Yes that correct. I have a friend who is having an op for a Hiatal Hernia. So far she has had to have three COVID-19 PCR tests in the run up to her operation which has been cancelled three times at the last minute. She is having a fourth test on Monday now for the newly rescheduled op.
A great point. Once in the clutches of the hospital they can do as many tests on you as they like, each of which could yield what they so desperately want: a positive result.
It seems this is what happened in many US states and is probably what’s going on in France. Clear the hospitals, then load them back up and test..boom..second wave.
Very good point. So along with “deaths with” versus “death of”, we also have “hospitalisations with” and “hospitalisations because of” covid.
Need to watch ICU numbers alongside hospitalisations.
“What can we actually do to stop/change the narrative and pressure the Handy Cocks of this world to switch their critical reasoning back on?” The Westminster bubble is well known; an ivory tower The clue to the answer: ‘Sir Charles Walker, the Vice Chairman of the influential Conservative 1922 committee of MPs, slammed the new restrictions on social gatherings saying he would vote to “curtail” the Government’s powers.’ That is how the two party system works and why trying to work outside it is so difficult in a first past the post system, which I think is the ‘least worst’ system. I see nothing much that I like about PR elected governments. And a new ‘Brexit Party’ type organisation would take decades to break through Lockdown sceptics are still a tiny minority. Most of the population are little exercised about masks etc Big swings in public opinion take an age. The Brexit vote was won by a whisker against the run of play. And this is not just a UK problem, it’s global. Unfortunately not much is going to change until after the U.S. Presidential election. The U.S.A. is not a country, it’s a business and that will get things moving… Read more »
Theme tune suggestion – “The Masochism Tango” by Tom Lehrer
And we’ll all fry together when we fry, we’ll be french fried potatoes by and by …
Churchill:
“We won’t fight them on the beaches because Matt Hancock advised against it”
more like
“we will wipe them with the bleaches”