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School Threatens to Send Children Home for Joking About Covid

A school in Hastings has told parents it will send their children home if they make “humorous” or “inappropriate” jokes about Covid. The Independent has more.

Pupils could be excluded for “malicious coughing or sneezing” or making “inappropriate” jokes about the coronavirus pandemic, a school has warned.

And at a second school, any pupil refusing to follow hygiene routines and social distancing will immediately be moved to a separate area, leaders say.

The Ark Alexandra Academy in Hastings, East Sussex, set out a list of coronavirus “red lines” that will result in fixed-term exclusions for pupils breaching them.

The academy says “humorous, inappropriate comments or statements” related to Covid-19 and “purposeful physical contact with any other person” are off-limits and will risk the child being sent home.

You can read the school’s letter to parents here.

Worth remembering that Milan Kundera’s satirical novel The Joke about a man whose life is destroyed after he makes an inappropriate gag on a postcard to his girlfriend was set in Soviet-controlled Czechoslovakia.

Only 84% of Children Have Returned to School in Scotland

Tens of thousands of children have not returned to school in Scotland, according to the BBC.

More than 100,000 pupils in Scotland are absent from school with attendance down to 84.5%, according to Scottish government figures.

Data collected from local authorities shows that more than 15.5% pupils were off school last Friday.

However, only 22,821 of the absences are recorded as “COVID-19 related”.

The Scottish government said it was common for other viral infections to circulate after a “prolonged break” away from school.

Scotland’s largest teaching union, the EIS, told BBC Scotland it believed many parents were “erring on the side of caution” and keeping children who had cold symptoms off school.

Pupils in Scotland began returning to school on August 11th after being away since March.

Provisional figures from 28 August show that 84.5% of pupils in Scottish schools were present, down from a confirmed 95.8% attendance on August 17th.

I wonder how many children won’t return to school in England, thanks to bedwetting parents?

I predict hundreds of thousands.

Christ Whitty Threatens to Resign – Let Him

The Telegraph has a story saying Chris Whitty, England’s Chief Medical Officer, may resign if people return to work too quickly.

Professor Chris Whitty is hampering the Government’s return to work message because ministers fear he could resign if too many people return to the workplace at once.

Cabinet sources have told The Telegraph ministers believe Prof Whitty could leave his post as Chief Medical Officer if they push too hard on their plans to reopen workplaces in an attempt to get the economy moving.

Prof Whitty fronted many of the Government’s first COVID-19 briefings from Downing Street, and is seen by the public as one of the most trustworthy voices in the debate over how to handle the pandemic.

If he were to resign over a conflict of opinion with the Government, it would undermine any attempts by ministers to persuade the public to follow its advice, it is feared.

Prof Whitty has recently urged caution in reopening offices and other workplaces too quickly.

If Whitty wants to die in a ditch to defend his erroneous advice, let him. But worth bearing in mind that he acknowledged the R number was probably below one before the lockdown was imposed when testifying before the Health Select Committee in June.

If the R number was below one before the lockdown was imposed, what makes Whitty thinks it will climb above one if it’s eased?

The Reliability of PCR Tests

A scientist has been in touch to correct the Mail article about the unreliability of PCR tests that we wrote about yesterday.

One of the reports you highlighted, from the Daily Mail, included the quote: “Today the PCR test, which provides a yes or no answer if a patient is infected, doesn’t say how much of the virus a patient has in their body.”

I am sure your readers are intelligent enough to know the truth, which is that the PCR test does reveal how much virus is in the body, but that this information is not provided to ‘patients’ in the yes/no text message. The underlying technique used is qPCR, where the q stands for quantitative. Samples are run for multiple cycles, each one potentially doubling the amount of target DNA. If there is a lot of starting material then fewer cycles will be needed than if there are only a few copies.

A good analogy is the rice/grain on a chessboard legend. Each cycle represents the next square, and twice the DNA. The difference between a test from an infectious individual (fewer than ~26 cycles) and one at maximal sensitivity (up to 42 cycles) is therefore potentially 2^16, or 65,000-times more.

PHE presumably knows how many cycles were needed for each positive test; it would be gross incompetence not to collect this data. The interesting question is whether they are passing this information on in briefings to ministers. My guess is that with admissions continuing to fall the vast bulk of positives have required high cycle numbers, indicating limited to no infectivity.

Carl Heneghan covered this in a bit more depth here.

Et Tu, Wetherspoons?

I thought Wetherspoons was a beacon of sanity during this madness. But apparently not, according to one reader.

I wanted to share with you my concern at developments at Wetherspoons, previously a beacon of sanity in our current mad situation, with clear signage and protocols in place to support the measures put in place by the government, but no enforcement and a lightness of touch seen in very few other places. Unfortunately, a couple of weeks ago one of their London pubs received heavy media criticism for – allegedly – not following the ‘rules’ around track and trace, social distancing, and so on (though in reality I suspect this criticism was based on ignorance of what the law actually requires). Now, individual pub managers have to risk assess their own venue, meaning that the uniformity of practice that previously made all Wetherspoons branches a safe space for sceptics has been watered down.

My experience today will illustrate this. I went into two Wetherspoons pubs in the same city. In the first, new signs said that track and trace forms must be handed to staff, but nobody that I saw was asked for one, and I bought two rounds of drinks and lunch without being challenged. Good for them. In the second, where I simply wanted a drink, I was first of all told off for not standing in quite the right place whilst waiting to order (having in fact moved off the right place at the request of a waitress carrying trays of hot food). Then, I was told by the heavily masked man behind the bar that I needed a table number simply in order to buy a drink. This was a classic piece of jobsworthiness, since nobody was checking and the drinks were still handed to the customer at the bar, so if I’d simply plucked a number out of thin air instead of querying it, I’d have got my drink. Needless to say, I made my excuses and left.

One of the sad things about the current situation is that it has taken all of the joy out of eating or drinking out (and shopping). Not knowing what the rules will be before you step into a place makes it simpler and less stressful simply not to bother. Previously, Wetherspoons was an exception to that bleak outlook. Now, not so much.

Professor Says Stop Listening to the Experts in Telegraph

I spotted a good letter in the Telegraph yesterday from a Professor.

SIR – Like many experienced medical academics who are not members of bureaucratic government committees, I despair at the clear evidence from the precipitate falls in hospital admissions and death rates that the Covid epidemic is drawing to a natural conclusion, and that lockdown has had little, if any influence. It has, however, had profound effects on morbidity and deaths from non-Covid causes, quite apart from trashing our economy.

We desperately need better “expert” advice, proper public discussion and above all decisive political leadership.

If the way out of this mess is not handled better than the way in, particularly the economic consequences, we face terminal decline. However, suggestions of major tax rises from a nominally Tory government do not bode well. On the face of it, would anything have been different had Jeremy Corbyn been successful at the December election?

Professor R A Risdon
London SW13

The COVID-19 Assembly

This got a very positive response yesterday, with over 70 people signing up, so we’re running it again.

The man behind Lockdown Truth, a companion website, is starting something called the COVID-19 Assembly. We asked him to do a few paragraphs explaining what it is.

The purpose of the COVID-19 Assembly is to allow the people themselves to take control of the COVID-19 narrative rather than the government and the mainstream media. By bypassing the MSM we will undertake the job of getting the real facts out to the public. One of the biggest problems with the current situation is that there is very limited information that the average person will come across without specifically looking for it. Most people simply aren’t aware that they don’t know many of the key facts about COVID-19 and “lockdown”.

We will create eye-catching and easy to understand content. Our “Top Ten Facts” can then be downloaded as leaflets, posters, roller displays, public presentations and slideshows for tablets and phones. All information will be based on official data and will avoid “conspiracy theories” which may put people off listening or helping. Volunteers will operate autonomously and present the facts to friends, families, colleagues, neighbours, clubs and amenity groups via pop-up displays in town squares and village halls or small meetings and workshops.

We will aim to create a diverse collection of people from ordinary members of the public to Nobel laureates working together to take control of this matter once and for all. Everyone has a part to play whether you just share our facts on social media or set up and run a local group. We need to work at local level changing public perception one person at a time. If we all do a little then the effect could be enormous.

If you’d like to join the Assembly, click here.

More Bad News For Partners of Pregnant Women

Katherine Heigl and Seth Rogen in Knocked Up

We’ve had a few emails from pregnant women and women who’ve recently given birth following our story yesterday about an expectant father not being able to attend his baby’s scan. This one was the most comprehensive.

Just wanted to get in touch to follow up on the piece in today’s Lockdown Sceptics regarding fathers’ attendance at antenatal scans. I’m afraid it’s not just scans that fathers are banned from – it gets worse. I’m currently pregnant with our second child, so I’m living under these rules at the moment. They differ up and down the country, but are broadly similar. A handful of trusts have lifted some of these restrictions. The rest (including my own) seem happy to stick with their ‘new normal’. Here is a summary of what pregnant women and their families are experiencing in my area and beyond.

Reduction in face to face appointments. I’ve already had two phone appointments so far during my pregnancy. I was surprised and slightly horrified to find that one of my future appointments during late pregnancy, a whole month after a face-to-face appointment, will also be held over the phone/video call. At every normal, routine midwife appointment, they do vital checks such as checking blood pressure, taking a urine sample and measuring the size of your bump. These checks can pick up serious issues for both mother and baby, such as pre-eclampsia, and fetal growth issues. Surely there is a high risk to pregnant women and unborn babies by holding a phone appointment, where you cannot do these vital physical checks? Even if you feel well in yourself, this doesn’t mean all is well with your baby, so how is a phone appointment adequate? Phone appointments have been continuing, even as lockdown has started to lift, and when cases in my area have been very low for some time. Hugely worrying- how many complications will be missed/have already been missed as a result?

No fathers at scans or any antenatal appointments. At our trust, they’ve just started letting fathers into antenatal scans, but my husband has already missed both the 12 and 20 week scans. I have heard stories on social media of women being told when they’re alone, that their baby has sadly died, or has a serious abnormality. Unbelievable when you consider that a father to be is currently allowed to sit in a busy pub, yet can’t be there at such a vital appointment with his pregnant partner.

No fathers/visitors on the antenatal/labour wards. If you’ve had labour induced (I won’t go into detail but I can tell you, it’s no picnic, it’s incredibly painful and it can take DAYS), if you’re awaiting a planned caesarean section, of if you’ve just come into hospital having gone into labour naturally, women are not allowed to have anyone with them, when previously you could have your partner by your side. Once you’re found to be in “established labour”, you get transferred to a private room and your partner can join you. If you’re having a C section, your partner is only allowed to join you just before you go down to theatre. Partners/fathers are being told to sit in the car and wait.

This is a very stressful and scary (not to mention painful!) time, and being separated from your partner at this point in labour must be truly horrible. I don’t know how this works in practice – maybe they’re more lenient than the rules suggest but it’s clear that many, many women have laboured alone.

It looks like this might be starting to change, and at my trust, they’re allowing a short 1 hour visit per day to the wards – not a lot at all though.

The thought of women labouring alone, at all, even in the early stages, or during the induction of labour, for any length of time, sounds awful. It’s well known that stress during labour is detrimental to the normal, natural progress of birth, and the support of your partner is critical. Yet somehow the NHS is allowing this to happen. This is something I haven’t personally experienced, but I’ve seen many a social media story highlighting how awful it was being alone during this time. I’d be interested to hear how women who gave birth since March have found the experience.

No fathers/visitors on the postnatal ward. A few hours after the birth, fathers must leave and cannot see their partner or their newborn baby until they’re both discharged from hospital. This can be anything from a few hours to a few days or rarely, a few weeks. This also looks to be slowly changing, and some trusts are offering short visits per day (an hour or so), but it’s not the same as having round the clock support from your partner. When you’re on the ward, you have a newborn baby to take care of, and some women are recovering from major abdominal surgery (a C section) or a traumatic birth. I personally don’t know how I would have coped on the postnatal ward on my own after our first baby was born.

Every parent knows that those first few days are a crucial time for bonding, and a time when new mothers really need the support of their partners and family. I dread to think the stress that new mothers have gone through being separated from their partners during parts of their labour and then after the birth, as well as the emotional heartbreak for new fathers at what should be an exciting time.

Fathers are not normal ‘visitors’ to the hospital – they are a crucial part of pregnancy and birth, and it’s ludicrous that they are being excluded.

I wonder about the long term negative effects of all of this. Will we see an increase in rates of PTSD following difficult births (where women have been alone for long periods), more cases of post natal depression, and an increase in pregnancy complications from a lack of monitoring?

It’s worth noting what the NHS says about the risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women: “There’s no evidence that pregnant women are more likely to get seriously ill from coronavirus. But pregnant women have been included in the list of people at moderate risk (clinically vulnerable) as a precaution. This is because pregnant women can sometimes be more at risk from viruses like flu. It’s not clear if this happens with coronavirus. But because it’s a new virus, it’s safer to include pregnant women in the moderate-risk group.”

So far, no studies seem to have found that pregnant women are more at risk than others. What covid does seem to have caused among pregnant women is increased anxiety, and the feeling that they need to lock themselves away. I wonder how many women have avoided getting medical attention when they’ve felt something isn’t quite right because they’re too scared to go to hospital, and how many have experienced mental health issues, both before and after the birth.

It’s clear that midwives and doctors are working incredibly hard to do their best for pregnant women and try to support them as best they can during this time, but the exclusion of fathers, and reduction in face to face care in particular feels wrong and disproportionate, especially since cases have been falling for some time.

People are up in arms about this, understandably. Somebody has set up a petition against the restrictions on fathers during birth here, which is approaching 200,000 signatures, but apparently has so far been ignored by Matt Hancock and others.

For now, the only loophole to all of this is to opt for a home birth. They can’t yet ban a father from his own home…

Round-Up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Four today: “Let Me Learn” by Krayzie Bone, “Everybody’s Got to Learn Sometime” by the Korgis, “Will We Ever Learn” by Wage War and “Teaching is the Key” by Aurel Mihaili.

Love in the Time of Covid

Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway as Bonnie and Clyde

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened

A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.

Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all (and some of them are at risk of having to close again). Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 5th to Oct 14th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £3.99 from Etsy here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 31,000).

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (flimsy at best)

Shameless Begging Bit

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And Finally…

The latest video from Media Bear is worth watching. Anyone know more about this anti-lockdown band? If so, email us here.

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Gtec
Gtec
5 years ago

Didn’t mean to be the first to comment, but I just happened to be awake when the Latest News update arrived in my inbox!

Steeve
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

I just woke up! AND I WANTED TO BE FIRST!

Gtec
Gtec
5 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

Sorry, better luck next time!

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

I must be more vigilant and beat you to it next time

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

NHS Nurse Whistle blower Louise Hampton – “Covid19 is BllkS!! They were doing noting during the worst of the COVID 19(84) times – MUST WATCH AND SHARE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu5KQtzBRYU&t=1s

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

You’ve posted this a lot, is it the hair or the eyes?

Achilles
Achilles
5 years ago
Reply to  Sylvie

It’s just a rant with no information or background. Fair play if she is genuine and speaking out but something doesn’t smell right about it to me. She just comes across as a disgruntled employee. Either way I’m not sure it’s going to end up helping the cause.

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

She’s an employee of (Dont) Care UK, notorious for fair dealing and support for its staff: ‘In November 2009 John Nash, the chairman of Care UK, made a donation of £21,000 to the private office of Andrew Lansley, who would later become Secretary of State for Health, but was at the time the health spokesman for the opposition. Lansley was later accused of a conflict of interest, as Care UK would be a major beneficiary of proposed changes. In 2014, Care UK’s former chairman Lord Nash became a government minister and Care UK took over services for people with severe learning disabilities in Doncaster, south Yorkshire, where they immediately cut wages of staff who had been on NHS terms by up to 35% while bringing in 100 new workers on £7 an hour. Fifty carers for the disabled began strike action in protest and by August 2014, had been on strike for seven weeks, making it one of the longest strikes in the history of the NHS. Care UK won the supported living contract from the council after telling officials that it could deliver it for £6.7m over three years, yet the wage bill alone for the service was £7m.’… Read more »

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
5 years ago
Reply to  Sylvie

Sounds about right — this is the new normal in modern Britain. Amazing how cheaply politicians sell themselves. It’s almost as if they’re stupid.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon Dutton

almost??????

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Are you being sarcastic?

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

What did you expect? The video fits in well with everything else we know about the blatant Covid scamdemic.

Lms2
Lms2
5 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

She’s right. I’ve just been reading articles in Pulse magazine which supports everything she says. The GPs are extremely unhappy that their referrals are just bouncing straight back to them.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
Reply to  Sylvie

I have posted it before but everything seems a loosing battle. All Labour, Lib Dems and SNP ever want is more lockdown.

Do MPs never seem to do any basic research.

For example Peru has been in Lockdown since March 16th and has the highest death rate in the world apart from San Marino.

No lock down Brazil has done far better than Britain, Spain, Italy and Belgium.

This is the website if Aussie doctors who want to end the lockdown.

https://www.coviddoctorsnetwork.com/

I am sure most of them the Aussie have thinning hair and bloodshot eyes. And that’s just the women. In that case I’ll take the bloodshot eyes

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Do MPs never seem to do any basic research?

Good question. Maybe they are not allowed to do any independent research.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

UK Column today pointed out that most MPs haven’t a clue what’s been going on. They are oblivious of the facts of eg. the “ramping up the fear mandate” in the SAGE minutes.

Mind you, at £100k per year, mostly to sit at home, they haven’t bothered to ask and seek much, have they?!

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Nope, I’m alright Jack.

Fiat
Fiat
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

I’m 38th. Is there a prize?

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Fiat

Fiat – just change your name to First…job done. Every time you come on here you can legitimately say “I’m First!”

Fiat
Fiat
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Nice one. Like the convict who changed his name to “Sir” so all the prison guards had to call him Sir!

skipper
skipper
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

Anyone noticed that since other have become the first to comment that we never see HawkAnalyst anymore?

Girl down Under
Girl down Under
5 years ago
Reply to  Gtec

You are so polite, from the other side of the world, bloody good job😆

Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago

Toby, your correspondent says:

the PCR test does reveal how much virus is in the body, but that this information is not provided to ‘patients’ in the yes/no text message

Is this really true? Doesn’t the PCR test reveal only the concentration of the specific RNA markers (am I using the correct terminology?) in the sample? Not the quantity in the body, nor the amount of actual virus..? There may be some typical relationship between them, but presumably it’s not definitive in every case i.e. we hear of fragments of RNA being cleared from a recovered patient’s body weeks after the infection has gone.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.25.20162107v2

But I understand what he is saying about the result given to the testee being only a binary yes/no, whereas the test does yield an actual figure.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Forget the PCR tests and whatnot and watch the video that I uploaded. Australia, Texas, New York, Arizona are all testing the waters of a new normal.

TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

It is not meaningful at an individual level, but in bigger data sets it would be meaningful, especially if the number of cycles before detection has changed over the course of the scamdemic. If it now takes more cycles than it used to then that undermines the cases narrative.

Arkansas
Arkansas
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I think the problem with that is there are many different versions of “the test” (hundreds), with the samples being acquired in different contexts and the tests being run in different lab environments — and the tests themselves have also evolved during the “covid” period.

Without some calibration or “gold standard” reference against which to ensure a consistent meaning of “number of cycles used to generate a clear signal”, I think it’s not much use to compare cycle counts?

Unless in the vague sense that it used to take 10 cycles and now it takes 100, but we’d still have to consider that a qualitative measure not really a quantitative one.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Arkansas

You cannot have a clear signal as the Sars-cov-2 coronavirus is still only a theoretical construct, it never having been isolated. There can be no gold standard in these circumstances.

Arkansas
Arkansas
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

They should publish the number of cycles though, to prevent what another commenter observed:

“Hopefully Cummings, Ferguson and Handcock have been retained for just such a purpose [there to be sacrificed during future backlash] when the second wave fails to materialise. The only problem is they will order PCR cycles to run and run until every test is positive…“

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUY2kJE0AZE
Jefferson Airplane White Rabbit

Tee Ell
Tee Ell
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

I hopped straight to the comments today to clarify the same. It may just be telling you how well the swab was taken.

I agree with you Barney, not “the scientist” who wrote in.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

And it may be just be giving a false positive.

guy153
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Yes it’s the amount of the markers in the sample which is indirectly related to the amount in the body– but also might depend on things like how far up the poor sod’s nose you managed to shove the cotton bud. It would still be interesting to see what the actual cycle counts recorded were.

The biggest problem with PHE and “Pillar 2” testing is the nature of the sampling. They have incredibly complicated rules that keep changing about who is supposed/allowed to have a test so we don’t know what population they’re sampling. To be meaningful it has to be random (ideally) or at least well-defined so we know whether we can extrapolate the positive ratio to everyone in England, to symptomatic people, to health care workers, whatever. There has to be some definition of the population.

It seems to be some subset of people with symptoms, anyone who needs medical treatment of any kind, health care workers and their friends, people who’ve just got off planes, who knows?

The ONS are the only people doing it properly and their overall prevalence estimate of about 0.05% is still the only meaningful one we have.

PWL
PWL
5 years ago
Reply to  guy153

The PCR test can’t indicate amount of virus in a host.

drrobin
drrobin
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Remaining fragments are what makes Jeremey Hunt’s question to Hancock yesterday (and tweeted) that “mass testing would give parents confidence they need to send kids to school”, the rubbish it is. It would cause disarray with schools shut despite no infectious people.
And whilst schools have red lines as you note in article, patents do. Some will withdraw children if there IS mass testing. I’d consider it.

PWL
PWL
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

No, the PCR test does not reveal quantity. There was a big story about this out of America recently; it was couched in terms of the test being too sensitive.

Rappoport has done an article on it:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/09/01/covid-test-overwhelming-number-of-false-positives/

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

The PCR test for Covid-19 may some bear relation to the Sars-Cov-2 viral load but the RNA markers being tested for have not been proved to be exclusive to the virus and they may have other origins. Hardly too surprising, considering the trail of inconsistencies and lies, that have littered the whole of the Covid-19 event.

Ianric
Ianric
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

If coronavirus is such a dangerous disease which produces severe symptoms why can’t a diagnosis be made on the basis of symptoms alone rather than rely on tests where there is uncertainty how reliable they are. For instance smallpox produced such severe symptoms you would be able to diagnose on symptoms alone. There is a long running joke about coronavirus being so deadly you have to test to see if people have the illness.

Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

A detailed test result with how much virus there is would only confuse people.
Firstly, you would have to explain to them what DNA/RNA is and how the test works. How often this specific lab replicates the test to get to the result, which one of the 497 tests in the world they use etc.
The test is supposed to make people compliant, a detailed result analysis might give some clever people the idea this is all just a sham.

Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago

I thought Wetherspoons was a beacon of sanity during this madness.

My perception would have been that a pub chain run by Tim Martin was likely to be a beacon of sanity. But in practice, not. I don’t smoke or vape, but I remember that Wetherspoons was one of the first pubs to make a big deal of banning vaping, and at the time this struck me as a bit pathetic. They came up with a feeble excuse about bar staff being ‘confused’ by e-cigarettes, unable to distinguish between them and normal cigarettes.

The reality would have been that no one would ever be in any confusion about which was which, and that people simply don’t attempt to smoke in pubs with normal cigarettes, anyway. It was a non-problem, and if they simply thought that e-cigarettes didn’t fit with the image of their salubrious establishments they should have had the guts to say so.

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2013/06/07/JD-Wetherspoon-JDW-smoking-ban-electronic-cigarettes

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

A large local Weatherspoons had a major refurbishment some months before the smoking ban and tried to implement it early there.
They soon had to abandon that because almost everyone stopped going.

NonCompliant
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

My two local Wetherspoons were an oasis in a sea of madness to begin with but my last visits were a bit more over bearing than usual. I just don’t take a phone out with me anymore and fill in the paperwork provided wink, wink.
I’m expecting it’ll soon come to the point where no smartphone == no access. At that point i’ll just pack in the Pub and Restaurant game altogether and turn my dining area into summat flashy and wine and dine at home and just get pissed in the back garden !

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Cashless pubs are a growing problem and should be avoided.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

E-cigarettes give off vast amounts of vapours that could well be as noxious as tobacco smoke. I don’t want to be exposed to E-cigs in Wetherspoons or any where else.

stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

I`ve smoked in Spoons since the ban. I was quite pissed though.

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago

Safety Mask has just made my day!! What an epic piece of art!

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago

This short video is chilling:
Watch Bill Gates gesticulate and tell us that we have no choice and that every human being on this planet must be vaccinated. Or else. This is no joke folks. 1984 has arrived.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fhcyflwRQrET/

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Yet in another interview he tells us this is pandemic 1 and it’s the ‘next one’ that people will take seriously…

kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

I would not take this vaccine. I have already been vaccine injured – by a tetanus vaccine. It is impossible to prove your injury because all research that might investigate vaccine harm is blocked and any researcher who is brave enough to work in this field has their funding cut off and their career threatened. This has been going on for thirty years and what we are now seeing is a continuation of that process.

However, I think the urgency to vaccinate everyone has nothing to do with the obscene profit that Gates and others will make, but is primarily targeted at gaining acceptance for bio metric ID and other control methods. And I think the controllers know they must act quickly to enforce this, before people can become aware enough to resist.

Whew! a few weeks ago I would have dismissed these ideas as the wildest conspiracy theory.

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
5 years ago
Reply to  kate

Just.a reminder that the pejorative term “conspiracy theory” was coined in 1967 by the CIA to ridicule anyone who doubted the Warren Report into the assassination of JFK.

https://steemit.com/history/@thelastheretik/cia-coined-and-weaponized-the-label-conspiracy-theory

A body of thought becomes a conspiracy theory when TPTB don’t want you to join the dots.

Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Then he grins manically. If he’d started rubbing his hands in glee I wouldn’t have been surprised.

kate
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Please everyone watch this!

karenovirus
5 years ago

A senior mental health practitioner tells me that Management insist that all face to face interactions must be behind masks. This means she cannot use her skills at reading her patients facial features to judge what state of mind they are really in.

Her patients (many of them Sectioned) regard her mask as part the hostile process that is being imposed upon them.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

This varies between NHS Trusts and local authorities.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

As does access to maternity departments to soon-to-be fathers, not a problem locally but it’s been posted here that in some areas they are told to wait outside in the car ffs.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I should’ve added – and individual practitioners. Agree, it is shocking that father’s cannot go to scans. Probably yet another breach of the right to a private and family life though these rights all went for a Burton a long time ago.

Sophie123
Sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Her patients (many of them Sectioned) regard her mask as part the hostile process that is being imposed upon them.”

they are not wrong there

Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
5 years ago
Reply to  Sophie123

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.

6097 Smith W
6097 Smith W
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well they are not wrong!
In fact I would point out that her patients seem a lot less mad than the management

Tjs123
Tjs123
5 years ago
Reply to  6097 Smith W

And it is management and not generally front line nurses and doctors who are imposing these “rules”.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Tjs123

Like the Cabinet, they are so divorced from the front line that they can’t even start to imagine the effects of their rulings.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Back in the day hospitals used to be managed by senior medics. Now I understand that the he career ladders of practitioners and managers are entirely separate.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

For me people in masks really cranks my tractor psychologically speaking. It utterly kills me. It is a unavoidable signal of how the wearer is totally brainwashed and believes the evil tale that has been told to them and is willingly supporting a very obvious tranny. This is causing me huge difficulties with my mental well being. Lucky for me I think I am very resilient in my mental health. I think my mental health’s immune system has been “vaccinated” or bolstered by a variety of life long daily challenges for me as to how I fit in with the world. I don’t generally. I can deal with it. However if I was more mentally unstable and even now I know that dealing with PPE clad mental health workers would almost certainly cause me huge psychological stress. I know it would make any mental health issues I had 100 times worse. For me dealing with masked wearers is almost intolerable, so much so that I avoid as much as possible any contact with these fools that are everywhere now. If I were detained against my will in an environment where PPE clad workers was the norm I really don’t think… Read more »

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

That her wearing a mask was likely to make the patient less stable was.one of the points the mental health worker was making.

Gillian Swanson
Gillian Swanson
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

We usually do a big weekly shop at Morrison’s in the evening, when there are relatively few other customers, and by focussing studiously on the shelves you can avoid seeing too many masks. We went earlier yesterday, in the afternoon, and it was horrible. Far more customers, and all of them except one, apart from myself, wearing a muzzle. I smiled at the one, and he smiled back – but five minutes later I saw him muzzling up. Don’t know if he had been shamed into this, just lost courage, or had simply forgotten to put it on in the first place. Nearly all the staff were also masked, except when behind their plastic shields at the tills. I don’t know why this upsets me quite so much – I think that, on top of the barrier it creates to normal interaction, it’s despair at the unquestioning docility of all those people. There seem to be more wearing them on the street here, too. Can’t go on public transport either, even with my exempt lanyard, because I couldn’t bear to sit surrounded by faces blanked out by straitjackets for any extended period. No wonder the buses are still almost empty.

Lili
Lili
5 years ago

I’m the same, Gillian.

David
David
5 years ago

Another who thinks the same.

I took my son to hospital yesterday, for a blood test. I was the only person unmasked (along with my 2-year-old son, and, eventually, my partner who got fed up with wearing hers, which made me a little happier).

karenovirus
5 years ago

Staff muzzling is also a management edict, imposed upon them 3 months after working through what might have been a truly scary epidemic without them.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Her patients are correct in their assessment!

Face to face interaction is a misnomer. It should be called mask to mask interaction.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Empathy and awareness of the facts are traits that must be suppressed to keep this charade running smoothly.

rational actor
rational actor
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

When I lived in the UK I spent several years as a volunteer mental health advocate. What infuriates me is the fact that until lockdown we still had various celebutards and mediafaces banging on about ‘mental health awareness’, which lasted right up to the point that another cause became more fashionable. It isn’t just that all the pontificating about mental health was shallow and insincere, although that is bad enough, it’s that these same people now have no interest at all in the mental health of people forced to wear or look at masks every day. It’s like this problem doesn’t exist, and if you mention it you get loud moralizing about ‘preventing just one death’. I’m frankly sickened by this, partly because I know that the same old faces will be back mouthing platitudes as soon as they think there will be no social media pushback. Barf.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  rational actor

The state is concerned about the mental health of people in the UK? The only concern they have is how far can they push people and how fast without A: causing them to fight back, and B: to not notice they are being physiologically coerced C: not causing them to totally breakdown

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

In most peoples mind “the more I comply the quicker we will get back to normal”.
Yeah, fat chance.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  rational actor

They still do a lot of mental health awareness promotion on R2, probably because listeners might not so easily make the link between that and the depressing sight of people wearing soppy masks.

karenovirus
5 years ago

From the roundup “Scaredy Sir”
From what I remember of my schooldays that Tosser will not survive a week at his new school but it’s his fault since he chose to broadcast his bedwettery all over the media.

Covid Jokes.
A caller on yesterdays Jeremy Vine show, in a segment about the Hastings school ban on Covid jokes was not cut off after saying

“Kids are more likely to be struck by lightning than be affected by the Covid…”

The rest of her call, about not policing children’s thoughts, was so effective that the Studio guest had to backtrack on almost everything he had previously said about the new rules being fair, proportionate and in the pupils own interests.
“Nobody is saying that kids can’t tell jokes”.
But he did say just that a few minutes earlier on the grounds that
“Other students may have lost family members to Covid so humour would be inappropriate”.

btw, does anybody know any Covid jokes (excepting members of HMG, SAGE etc) ?

Alethea
Alethea
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, I know a Covid joke.
You won’t get it.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Alethea

. ?. . LOL.

Offlands
Offlands
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Some good, some terrible ones here:

https://jokojokes.com/coronavirus-jokes.html

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Offlands

I was going to type NOTHING IS FUNNY ANY MORE! but then actually some of these are pretty funny.

“Eminem Coronavirus joke

Apparently, Eminem is rumoured to be diagnosed with Coronavirus

In a statement released by doctors, it has been revealed that his palms were sweaty, knees weak and arms were heavy. He presented with vomit on his sweater already. Initial testing has revealed it was mums spaghetti”

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

See the headmistress after school for that two-six

DomW
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

Yeah that was a good’un. Certainly had me ‘proper’ laughing, which hasn’t happened much over the last few months.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

Too much acid in the tomato sauce.

BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Wife: “I can’t wait till the gyms reopen after lockdown, I feel I’m just getting fat day by day”

Husband: “Don’t worry. You were fat already”

His death was recorded as Covid-19

karenovirus
5 years ago

Detention for you BeBopRockSteady

Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What these anti-joke idiots don’t realise is that humour is a human way of dealing with situations, and isn’t just something to make you feel good. The person telling the joke isn’t necessarily trivialising suffering.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

N hs Louise Hampton – Nurse Whistle blower “Covid19 is BkS!! – MUST WATCH AND SHARE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu5KQtzBRYU&t=1s

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Still only 1.7k views, anyone know a youtuber with more followers ?

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Probably accurate for 90 % of the UK nursing staff as the NHS shut down to nearly all admissions apart from Covid on March 16 th She is however a NHS call handler , not a nurse . Their workload would have gone down substantially.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

Top 10 Countries for Death Rates (sources Worldometers website)

1 San Marino
2 Peru – locked down started on 16th March ….
3 Belgium
4 Andorra
5 Spain
6 UK
7 Chile
8 Italy
9 Sweden
10 Brazil

All had severe lock down apart from Sweden and Brazil

RyanM
RyanM
5 years ago

No, we’re not screwing these kids up for life at all.

Could backfire, though. Each generation seems to rebel against the last, so maybe these kids will be freedom-loving, distrustful of arbitrary authority … Maybe?

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

That would have been my assumption but others here say kids have become so snowflaked by safetyism that it won’t happen.
I remember reports that todays 20somethings don’t do enough alcohol or drugs while not having enough sex to reproduce themselves.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

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richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Put down that smartphone and have a little snog once in awhile.

rational actor
rational actor
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The twenty- and thirty-somethings I know are definitely reproducing themselves. Look on the positive side, the dweebs will die out and the world will belong to deplorables with 5 kids each.

stevie119
5 years ago
Reply to  rational actor

Which the taxpayer will pay for.

karenovirus
5 years ago

Interesting piece by the Telegraphs Parliamentary sketch writer Michael Deacon on why Education Secretary Gavin Williamson wasn’t sacked for the exams imbroglio. He suggests that it’s so Gav is on hand to be sacrificed when the school return goes belly up.

Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hopefully Cummings, Ferguson and Handcock have been retained for just such a purpose when the second wave fails to materialise. The only problem is they will order PCR cycles to run and run until every test is positive…

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think it’s because he knows where the bodies are buried and has form for leaking secret information

karenovirus
5 years ago

Looks like Gav going under the bus.
Beeb R2 news 13.00.

OFQUAL today, Wednesday, said Williamson decided to go with the algorithm against their advice and without final consultation. Further they told him that computer predicted grades would be highly unacceptable to parents.

Stringfellow Hawke
Stringfellow Hawke
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Interesting. I seem to recall though the MSM started a fracas in the beginning of this, related to exams – ITV certainly did a lengthy piece where they pushed ‘systemic racism’ as an implication that students, esp. from minority backgrounds, may be inversely targeted if they accepted the teachers’ predictions re:grades.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hardly rocket science.

Will
Will
5 years ago

Increasingly the PCR test for covid resembles the unreliable test for TB in cattle. Seek, seek and ye shall find…

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

I was talking to a farmer about this. He says the test for bovine TB is free if you use the government reactor test if you get a “positive reactor” in your heard its very very bad news.

Now he says he know a lot of farmers then get their own test done and very often the cow test negative but the damage has been done on a massive scale to them already. Farmers are not allowed or just can’t afford to use the more reliable and expensive tests first.

Many farmers think the bovine TB tests are are massive SCAM.

Will
Will
5 years ago

Another dispiriting day on the children’s oncology ward as my daughter undergoes chemotherapy for autoimmune disease. The people are lovely and well meaning but the systems are shambolic, and that is putting it politely. When a five year old is having an infusion that takes over 8 hours, without the inevitable occlusions etc, you would think that getting going promptly would be a priority. We were there for nearly two hours before the infusion even started…
Fortunately she is a very patient patient but our experience is symptomatic of so much that is wrong with the blessed NHS.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

Best wishes for your daughters return to health Will.

Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thank you. We have a clinic in two weeks which will hopefully confirm it, but she certainly appears to be getting better so the horror of the treatment doesn’t feel quite as cruel.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

Fingers crossed! .. Is this shambles just standard ongoing NHS procedure shambles or is this being exacerbated by the NHS focus on the Covid hordes and everything non Covid being low priority,
Also are the Covid rules that the staff are having to follow making this all a harder thing to bear for your daughter?
At least you could be there- Note posts yesterday about fathers being banned from baby scans etc.

Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I think things might be getting a touch more sensible with our team as they are, at least, going to allow both parents to come to our clinic in a fortnight. I really am convinced that a significant minority of the NHS know this whole business is a load of bollcks.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Will

i think it is more than a significant minority but they are too scared of saying anything and being hung out to dry .
I hope you and your daughter get the treatment and outcome you need

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I have never known any other organisation which has been so vicious in its’ treatment of whistleblowers as the NHS.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

My wife had a scan for a thyroid condition.She was told they can only operate at half capacity due to cleaning of rooms after each patient.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

So much for wearing the magic masks!

rms
rms
5 years ago

Hmm. “OH THE HORROR! Sturgis Motorcycle Rally COVID-19 Numbers Are in and They Are Shocking”.
From https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/09/01/oh-the-horror-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-covid-19-numbers-are-in-and-they-are-shocking

From https://www.kotatv.com/2020/08/29/sturgis-mass-testing-results-announced/ included in the above link:

The City of Sturgis conducted mass COVID testing for its citizens after welcoming hundreds of thousands of visitors for the 80th annual Motorcycle Rally. Now, the city is announcing the results.

A total of 650 people took advantage of the free testing, with 26 people testing positive for COVID-19.

All of them were asymptomatic at the time of testing.

Conclusion from the piece (my bold):

Of course, we still need to protect the vulnerable from COVID-19. The latest from the CDC demonstrates that those who are over the age of 65, obese, have diabetes, or other pre-existing conditions need to be cautious. Those who live with these individuals need to protect them by following the CDC guidelines. However, there is a significant portion of the population that can go back to everyday life with confidence. They should be allowed to do so immediately.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  rms

WoW, that’s worse than Scotland where 15% of the population have been put in lockdown+ as they scraped up a hundred or so new ‘cases’.

WhyNow
WhyNow
5 years ago
Reply to  rms

There goes the lie about obesity and diabetes. It’s dementia and Alzheimer’s, as the primary pre-existing condition, but they don’t want to say it.

Julian
Julian
5 years ago
Reply to  rms

South Dakota. Land of the Free, Sceptic Governor.

Arkleston
Arkleston
5 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Sounds like somewhere over the rainbow viewed from New Jerzystan, land of the largely compliant, Chucklehead in Charge.

Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  rms

Shock! Horror! 26 people not ill!

Sophie123
Sophie123
5 years ago

Have we talked about the CDC’s admission that only 6% of deaths were from COVID alone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0y6M-N8wOE

2 pence
2 pence
5 years ago
Reply to  Sophie123

Yes, a few discussions yesterday.. “According to The New York Times, potentially 90 percent of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 have such insignificant amounts of the virus present in their bodies that such individuals do not need to isolate nor are they candidates for contact tracing. Leading public health experts are now concerned that overtesting is responsible for misdiagnosing a huge number of people with harmless amounts of the virus in their systems.” “’Most of these people are not likely to be contagious…’ warns The Times.” Yes, that’s what the NY Times is confessing (8/29): “Some of the nation’s leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States: The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus. Most of these people are not likely to be contagious…” “In three sets of testing data…compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.” Let me break this down for you, because it’s a lot worse than the Times admits. The rabbit… Read more »

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  2 pence

Thanks for your two pence worth.

mj
mj
5 years ago

BBC breakfast trying desperately to define the new normal for schools

Tame doctor telling how glad her children are to be going back and how pleased she is that the school are implementing such a strong clean and mask policy (she says her 9 year old has been masking for weeks).

She also commented that she has been seeing lots of patients (really – a GP seeing patients???) and is now putting lots of illnesses down to being post covid problems (she said she had covid in February and still doesnt have sense of taste back) – chest problems , fatigue etc.

Then showing a bus company gearing up for school run.. 2 pages of instructions, masks, distancing ,bus cleaning .

Then to top it all Alistair campbell (and partner) on his depression. The man who made everyone else depressed

Thanks BBC for making my depression worse

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

All this “hand sanitiser” nonsense.

9:05 “Oh dear I’ve touched something – I must sanitise my hands”

9:11 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:16 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:21 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:23 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:29 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:34 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:45 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:46 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

9:48 “Oh dear I’ve touched something again – I must sanitise my hands again

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Oh dear. What’s this rash on my fingers?

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Might be Covid. Better get tested.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

That’s some visitors in the museum where I work:

Entrance – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands

Welcome area – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands again

Multi-media collection area – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands again

Galleries – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands again

Multi-media return area – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands again

Goes to the toilets and washes hands

Exit – Ooooohhhh……there’s a hand sanitiser point – must sanitise my hands again

Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

In my building, we have an entrance – sanitiser station – people go straight to the toilet – we prop the main door open so no need to touch a door – on the way out of toilet they exit the building – sanitiser station, both get used.
i always think, do you wash your hands at home before you go the toilet?
Why do you sanitise your hand after you have been to the toilet, I hope you washed your hands!!

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

That always baffled me, surely they wash their hands after using the toilet so why sanitise again?

That said I’ve seen those who are muzzled who don’t use wash their hands after using the toilet. Probably thinks that being muzzled gave them the licence not to wash their hands!

JulieR
JulieR
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

One of my friends son went to school today, Y5.
He said that they washed their hands all day. That’s all he remembered.

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I’m now 9 weeks BBC Breakfast free and a much happier man for it. Give it a try, mjr.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Every day in every way you are getting better and better.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKkC8nHYjQ
Ken Nordine: You’re getting better

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

I’ve never understood how people could stomach any kind of tv at breakfast time.

steve
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Since March for me.
Gave up after bbc was reading a letter from someone asking about coronabollox.
The talking head said she should not bake a cake for their elderly neighbour in case the virus on the tin killed her.

The Last man to enter parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Cancelling the TV licence was one of my best decisions. I don’t miss it one bit; the above describes such a soul destroying way to start the day.

Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

So everything will be put down to post-covid effects now unless someone happens upon a GP who is genuinely caring and thorough. Goodbye differential diagnosis. Will help with waiting list figures, no doubt.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Radio 4 this morning introduced Prayer For Today by referencing wankocks plan to make on-line GP consultations the norm. The CofE Cleric then told us how wonderful that would be.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Makes sense… Our relationship with the NHS is the same as a persons relationship with God.
You have to believe that it exists, that when you speak to it, it listens, and believe that it has a positive effect of your life.
And of course they are both religions and have sects that are “happy clappers”

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Like those wonderful online church services.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

A lot of hooey.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I’m so glad not to have watched that abomination for 15 years now and looks like its gotten worse.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

someones got to keep you up to date!!! Anyway, at the point when i am about to throw the tv out of the window i switch off .
Seriously though, i do watch a little of the BBC news occasionally just to see what the latest message is. I always work on the basis that if their lips are moving they are lying.
It is those that watch open mouthed taking it all in that need to watch something else

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I go onto their website, scroll through the headlines and skim through the stories. And that’s it.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I used to read The Guardian, from March up until a month ago. I stopped, couldn’t take it anymore.

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Taking one for the team?

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Strange Days

correct … my brain is already frazzled.. i am immune !!!

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

I use the MSM to see what idiocy they are planning next.I find they float a policy,gauge the reaction then decide whether to proceed.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

You can skim the Guardian headlines and get the same bollox for free in less than 5 minutes.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

15 years TV poverty likewise

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yep. And I feel good for it.

watashi
watashi
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

44 years free of tel- lie-vision here.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  watashi

Brilliant!!!!

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Let’s hope her 9 year old has a very pretty madk to show her friends.

Meanwhile on steam Radio beeb 4 07.45, brave mum announced to the world that she will no longer be hugging the kids because of the increased risk from going back to school.

Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well, that will do their emotional development a great deal of good.

rational actor
rational actor
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m aware of a couple who haven’t kissed since March because of the scare. I can’t fathom how you let bullshit rule your life in this way.

On a related note, if this really were the Black Death I’m guessing we’d have a shortage of noble souls nursing the dying. All this posturing about protecting others is enabled only by the fact that none of them are really being expected to do anything at all except don the face clout and criticize others.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  rational actor

Presumably they conduct carnal relations wearing latex skin suits… , (no that’s enough).

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

A new twist in Carnal Knowledge.

Alison9
Alison9
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Couldn’t resist a quote from the 1976 film Network – and a link to the scene (I’ve also linked to the other great scene from this film) – the network has just been taken over by a ruthless corporation and Peter Finch’s character (a maverick presenter) is talking to the audience.

“We’ll tell you any sh*t you want to hear. We deal in illusions, none of it is true. You people sit there day after day, night after night, all ages, colours.  We’re all you know.  You’re beginning to believe the illusions we’re spinning here. You’re beginning to think that the tube is reality and your own lives are unreal.  You do whatever the tube tells you. You dress like the tube, you raise your children like the tube.  You even think like the tube.  This is mass madness. You maniacs. YOU people are the real thing. We are the illusion”.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI (Television scene)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxiT30N6ti4 (International business)

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  Alison9

“…. a Ruthless Corporation” — The BBC?
This should be the pitch for the new BBC Director General

bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Alison9

I’m mad as hell and I’m not taking it any more.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

That should be the new Thursday night thing as per the movie.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Instead of clapping for the NHS shout I’m mad as hell and I’m not taking it any more. Send emails with that message to your councils, MPs, the PM, Cockup, Whitty, Vallance, Patel …

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

The BBC will give you brain cancer.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Just as well you were not watching ITV where Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby enjoyed a smooch from either side of a polythene blanket with ‘arms’ of the type used to handle uranium.

h/t youtuber Carl Vernon, not to be confused with Vernon Coleman.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

This grant is contingent upon grantees giving right of first refusal of vaccines directly to COVAX, which of course is backed by billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates.’

Good description of Bill G!

skipper
skipper
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Careful what you say, our Toby is a eugenicist.

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Er… buh?

skipper
skipper
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

?

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Was a bit confused by the sudden accusation. Never heard that particular slur before and unsure where it’s come from.

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Ah, right. So we’re redefining the term to include the idea of supporting the disadvantaged to improve their life chances and social mobility? Fair enough.

skipper
skipper
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Which is the same as what Gates is trying to achieve through his foundation.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

A post on Sir John Redwood’s blog:

O/t Due to a local lockdown that was imposed last night in Glasgow and East Renfrewshire I cannot meet my daughter at her house. Bizarrely it would be lawful to meet her in a pub, as the pubs are authorised to remain open. How crazy is that? Does it make any sense whatsoever?

******************************************************************************************
Coercive Control

Isn’t that against the law now?

Where are those World Class Human Rights Lawyers Cherie Blair and Amal Clooney when you need them?

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Those “world class human rights lawyers” don’t care a fig about us because we don’t gratify their vanity and messianic complex.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

How about Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer? Crickets.

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago

All the kids at that school in Hastings (and everywhere) should watch this video

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=george+carlin+immune+system&&view=detail&mid=7B17649370F39A06CA377B17649370F39A06CA37&rvsmid=6E4FAC9A6DB76B250DCA6E4FAC9A6DB76B250DCA&FORM=VDQVAP

Unfortunately, I suspect that it would be too sophisticated for them.

Alison9
Alison9
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

I so wish he was around now.

BTLnewbie
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Thanks for this – not come across this guy before:
“What do you have an immune system for? To kill germs. But it needs practice!”

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

Not come across George Carlin before?? Have you been living under a rock?? I actually envy you to be honest, because you now have the delight of experiencing 50+ years of his material for the first time. Enjoy!

Steve Martindale
Steve Martindale
5 years ago

For what it’s worth (probably nothing) I have written to the Parliamentary Health & Social Care Committee; To Parliamentary Health & Social Care Committee             2 September 2020 From Mr S A Martindale Call for an Inquiry into Corona-virus Testing I am writing to request that the Health & Social Care committee urgently conducts an inquiry into the testing system that underpins so much of the current actions to control Covid 19. The PCR RNA test being used to look for the SARS-Cov2 virus has been successfully used in many areas but usually as part of a professional analytical or diagnostic process. The Pillar 2 testing procedure in the UK has seen an unprecedented ramping up of PCR testing to a large mass scale procedure with test results taken as definitive with no cross reference to professionals to confirm the apparent presence of disease. Anomalies and false results which are known to exist with this test are thus amplified by this mass testing and with no professional checks are simply fed into the system, the results of which are used for local lockdowns and other Public Health measures which are being implemented at great cost to society. The statistical significance of the +ve tests… Read more »

mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

PCR tests are treated like tenperature anomalies to justify climate change policies. Data with high error and uncertainty, unworkable signal to noise, yet taken as gospel.

All those hottest year eva proclaimations? How about rising “cases”?

See how it works now. This thinking has prevaled a lot longer than this year

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

I second this comment.

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago

Might you also copy to the Chair of the Commons Science and Technology Committee, Greg Clarke? They have held a few sessions already, interrogating Ferguson, Vallance et al.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Sylvie

Making sure they’ve all got the same script more likely.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago

Everyone should accept this is about control. The ‘virus’ would not have been noticed if they hadn’t told us. The rich and elite see a better world for themselves if the plebs are controlled in every way. The Vax ID, and in reality the vaccination could be anything as we only know we have it if tested and the test results are vague and imprecise, will do this, it gains the approval of the Climate Change Lobby and the Vax Foundations who can afford to subsidise those willing to advance their cause.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Saw a YouTube clip this morning where a Chinese chap with traffic light ‘health’ status app had been designated Red so his life comes to a July. No appeal against the algorithm, then is mysteriously designated green again so back to work and shopping. He has no idea why.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I guess, until they reduce the world population, controlling when and how people do stuff, makes it a better place for the rich to live in, as they seem to do what they want when they want.

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

…his life comes to a July…. ??? That is surreal.. or one hell of a typo ….. 🙂

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

The unexpected found poetry of autocorrect

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Posting while out and about, as Strange Days say, = autocorrect. Same sort of tech that is Correcting the life of the guy in my post.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Exterminate autocorrect. Exterminate autocorrect.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Came to a halt!

mj
mj
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I assumed that it was halt or stop ….. I just cannot understand how “July” would end up there which is why i asked

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  mj

Qwerty, j next to h, y next to t.
Android keypad but I don’t even have podgey fingers!

Mr Dee
Mr Dee
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Reminds me of a game I used to play back in the 80s – Paranoia. “Paranoia features a security clearance system based on colours of the visible spectrum which heavily restricts what the players can and cannot legally do; everything from corridors to food and equipment have security restrictions. The lowest rating is Infrared, but the lowest playable security clearance is Red; the game usually begins with the characters having just been promoted to Red grade. Interfering with anything which is above that player’s clearance carries significant risk. Within the game, Infrared-clearance citizens live dull lives of mindless drudgery and are heavily medicated, while higher clearance characters may be allowed to demote or even summarily execute those of a lower rank and those with Ultraviolet clearance are almost completely unrestricted and have a great deal of access to The Computer; they are the only citizens that may (legally) access and modify the Computer’s programming, and thus Ultraviolet citizens are also referred to as “High Programmers”. Security clearance is not related to competence but is instead the result of The Computer’s often insane and unjustified calculus of trust concerning a citizen.” I never in my wildest dreams thought that we’d actually be veering… Read more »

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

The up and running system in China is not just about your health. Your rating is also dependent on.your social and legal behaviour, membership of the CCP, smoking or drinking too.much and much.more besides .
When posting about this some days ago it was suggested that the trials for the app decided your ability to buy loo rolls, or not.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Too many people are paranoid, thats why we’re in this mess.

Ed Turnbull
Ed Turnbull
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

I beg to differ – too many people are credulous. They’ll believe any old nonsense the government and / or MSM feed them.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The madness of the last 6 months really only makes any kind of sense if you accept that it is about more than ‘just’ a virus..

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

That’s because it is more than just a virus. Too many coincidences and too many people jumping on the bandwagon week after week.

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Welcome to the plantation.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago

Won’t Cristopher Witty need to be reoved from post when the manslaighter/treason trials take place? Surely it is only practical sense. Another one who cannot handle the heat in the kitchen they built.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

That shower could not build a kitchen,
more like a badly dug latrine.

kate
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Who is going to do this? The power to hold these people to account for their decisions no longer exists.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  kate

I agree. I am in favour of a peoples inquiry – held by the people. There’s one going on in Germany at present which is streamed live.

If some one has the link for this please can you add.

Obvious limitations to what can be looked into without the Christopher Whitty’s of tge world appearing on oath (haha) but these things ard hugely important.

Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

That’s my view as well. An official enquiry may pick up on a few things which could have been done better but will essentially be the establishment marking its own homework. A people’s enquiry needs some high level legal and medical representatives to give it credibility, plus grass roots representation to describe what actually happened to people’s lives.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

We can really make this happen.

Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Youtube channel called Brera.
Acu2020.org
Auuserparlamentarischer Untersuchungsaussschuss. Mainly doctors.

or: Oval media This is led by lawyers

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Thanks

Nobody2021
5 years ago

I remember years ago a project called Biosphere 2 where a group of 8 spent a year or two living under a glass dome. The idea was to test the viability of colonizing space living in a dome that was basically a mini Earth. I don’t remember all the specifics of the project but you can read up on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2 There was one problem in particular that I remember and that was air leakage (not particularly desirable in space or a planet with a hostile environment). If there was a hole 1cm in diameter in the glass that would be relatively easy to fix. Now imagine 10 thousand holes 1/10000th of a cm in diameter leaking out the same amount of air. A very different problem altogether. Unless every hole is blocked some air will eventually escape and this is how I see the virus problem, in particular attempts to erradicate it. It is simply not possible to block every possible route of transmission, if you block one hole the virus simply gets in through another hole. If the holes are different sizes you may be able to block the more obvious holes first and slow the transmission… Read more »

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

I have ‘O’ level Biology so learned it’s impossible to eradicate a virus. Should I write to Mr Johnson to let him know ?

Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well you can tell him, but will he know? An epistemological question.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, please do.

Laura Suckling
Laura Suckling
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Correct. Now, if only old Jacinda could understand that concept we might start getting somewhere.

Graham
Graham
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

“If there was a hole 1cm in diameter in the glass that would be relatively easy to fix. Now imagine 10 thousand holes 1/10000th of a cm in diameter leaking out the same amount of air.”

Sorry to be pedantic, but here goes 😉 a hole 1/10,000th of a cm in diameter has an area that is 1/100,000,000th (one hundred millionth) of the area of a hole 1cm in diameter. So ten thousand of them would give an area 1/10,000th of the bigger hole. But I take your general point.

Nobody2021
5 years ago
Reply to  Graham

I could have put 10 thousand times smaller I guess. lol

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

Another great update!

Had to laugh at the following:

  • the bloody cheek of that school to threaten students for making jokes when I bet they can’t be arsed to do their proper job such as making sure that kids learn and enforcing zero tolerance policies for real issues such as bullying
  • Chris Whitty throwing a tantrum and threatening to resign if people went back to work. Go ahead dear, you ain’t Maria Callas. No one cares and actually we will be happy to see the back of you then later we can throw you in jail or inflict some punishment on you for the misery you have caused
  • The NHS living up to its new name of the No Health Service or No Hope Service

As for Weatherspoons what I’ve read about it disappointing but it does seem to vary from branch to branch as the one I’ve been to are relaxed about the whole thing.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

As I wrote last night, the definition of ‘joke’ can easily be ‘re-framed’ by the school to include any comments like ‘This corona-stuff is all a load of cr*p, sir’, followed by actual FACTS to back up the comment.. Also the spreading of *facts* amongst pupils, which will be re-defined as ‘dangerous false information designed to undermine the school’s policy’, or similar..and lead to suspension, expulsion etc..

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

School Exclusions for wrongthink about lockdown would seem a certainty, welcome to your Brave New World kids.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Agree. Its also censorship all but in name.

No wonder kids are leaving school illiterate and innumerate – they’ve strayed too far from their core task.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Queer Theory for five year olds. Revolting. Nauseating. Perverted.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Same idle promise the luvvies made if Trump/Boris/Brexit won at the polls, sadly all still with us.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yep. Still waiting for those plastic Paddies/Germans/Italians etc to take advantage of the last days of free movement to up sticks and settle in their new countries.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

They’ve probably been given the hard word by EHOs or similar, especially if word was getting round that they were acting old-normally.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Whitty had another fitty?

GiftWrappedKittyCat
5 years ago

The Scottish government said it was common for other viral infections to circulate after a “prolonged break” away from school.
If this is the case then are they suggesting that all the social distancing, masks, bubbles, phased start & finish times, wearing PE kit all day etc etc… are not effective in controlling the spread of viruses??

Biker
5 years ago

The Scottish Government don’t know what they are doing. Sturgeon is possibly the Dumbest person to have ever held office in a western nation, matched only by the kind of muppet that votes for her. If she were a shop she’d be one of them shops that have appeared in the old Woolies buildings selling plastic pish to smelly lower classes who have handled control of their own thoughts to someone who wears clothes that look like they were bought from What Everyone Wants. I can stand many things but i can’t stand people with no style, people who eat frozen food or drink Monster or wear sportswear while not engaged in physical activities. The kind of person that uses the grooming gang shops and comes out with a blue bag of death containing four tins of lager/cider you’ve never heard of, a loaf of white bread, stork margarine and six eggs.

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Most excellent! A double dose of Biker!

karenovirus
5 years ago

No, but they are effectively saying all the lockdown nonsense just puts things off a bit, not that any of the pupils will be directly affected by the Covid in any case.

Youth_Unheard
Youth_Unheard
5 years ago

The fact that anyone should get ill anymore, and the stories you hear always appear to be the most double down zealots there are, seems to suggest that the measures don’t actually make a difference to catching anything….

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Youth_Unheard

Except hysteria.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

Thye are unfortunately impervious to irony.

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago

I heard on BBC Radio 4 this morning (Explanation: It’s my alarm, and always gets me so livid I get up and away as quickly as I can.) that Astro-Zenica was preparing to go into production with its new vaccine, (the ferrets died didn’t they).

And I’m incandescent about the stupid waste of money, effort and production resources when there is a bloody good treatment – Hydroxychloroquine.

To stop this mad rush to stick needles in us all, we need to get many more people aware that there is a safe, effective and inexpensive alternative to the dodgy vaccines.

Am I RedPill001?

Will anyone help to get the ball rolling?

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

It could be water they were injecting, no one knows they have ‘covid’ until tested and the tests are vague and inconclusive, but the vax cert. will do the trick with the control side of it

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

To myself … seems like The COVID-19 Assembly is a place to start.

Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Yes, signed up yesterday and got a reply this morning. Time to take action.

mail@covid19assembly.org

Biker
5 years ago

The poor woman and her pregnancy story. I feel however that the less she has to do with them the better and all the worries and tests and the rest of the bullshit the NHS does just stresses out people. If anyone thinks that Midwifes are some kind of Virgin Mary sent to earth to care for woman you couldn’t be further from the truth. In my area i know the woman in charge of Midwifery and she’s a total alcoholic and a danger to anyone near her. She’s also a nasty bitch and (it almost goes without saying) fat as fuck. Worst of all she’s got a Facebook group for the Virus ( my old dear tells me since i’m not on Facebook) and is so unbearable at the moment that people have left just to get away from her. Ok she’s my cousin that’s how i know. I don’t think these wankers in the Government are getting it, six months is a long time and hundreds of thousands of people have died in that time and the rest of us are just heading the same way so we need to get moving. I’m tired of the restrictions, the… Read more »

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Holidays in the Sun for me.

Then again it’s hard to beat that line from EMI: ‘Blind acceptance is a sign / of stupid [fucking] fools that stand in line’. Or the mental laugh in Belson. Or the whole lyric to Bodies.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Got listen to the Bollox CD when I get home later, and California Uber Alles

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Only sceptics are entitled to listen to or own Pistols records – the others aren’t worthy.

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What about the DK’s ‘Kill the Poor’. In fact, that would make a good theme tune suggestion.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Seconded

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Mayor of Los Angeles invited people months ago to snitch. He even promised a reward if they did so. How do these people get to such positions of power? Smoking has been banned everywhere in Beverly Hills. My youngest brother used to work as a bartender at the Daisy Club in the early 70s. One of his frequent customers was cigar smoking Groucho Marx.

Edna
Edna
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Pretty Vacant should definitely be the theme song for all the lockdown zealots!

Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Has John Lydon (Johnny Rotten as was) said anything about Covid-19? Doesn’t he live in the USA now?

Stringfellow Hawke
Stringfellow Hawke
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

He most definitely does (assuming he’s not moved) live not far from Venice Beach area; I’d be interested too, I’m sure he would have something to say about current events. He became a folk hero to some, when the Governor of CA was waxing lyrical about how brilliant a job he was doing, Lydon did a prominent interview in which he pointed out the city was going to pot – homelessness up, murder rate up, to the point where he & his family were scared to go certain places at certain times. Yes, Johnny Rotten says he was scared,… that got some people’s attention!

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I’ve heard Jonny is nursing his sick wife, i think she’s got Dementia. I wish him well.

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Thank you for my daily dose of “Biker”. You are helping to keep me sane.

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  RichardJames

Cheers and i’m big fan of Come To Daddy and saw you perform at the Glasgow Student Union and at Glastonbury

Lord Rickmansworth
5 years ago

GET YOURSELVES ON LBC…I might be on in a minute slagging off facemasks!

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago

Give them some stick, Rick.

Lord Rickmansworth
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I’ll try…but Ferrari can be a slippery customer!

mj
mj
5 years ago

good to hear him taking the piss out of the bedwetter teacher

mj
mj
5 years ago

so have you been passed over? I am suffering here having to listen to Therese Coffey .. or did i miss you?

mj
mj
5 years ago

Re Toby’s piece above “Professor Says Stop Listening to the Experts in Telegraph”

Usually when a photo is used, a note is added re the source. This has not been done here.

For those that are interested, photo is the brilliant John Houseman as a law professor in a US series called “The Paper Chase” He was also in the original film on which the series was based. I remember watching it way back … A brilliant film and series. I think i will watch again.

The sort of thing that the erudite and educated followers of lockdown sceptics will enjoy.

DanClarke
DanClarke
5 years ago

Well Boris’s dad is back from Greece now, so it could be true

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Just in the nick of time.