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The UK’s “Second Wave” is a Costly Myth

Lockdown Sceptics contributor Will Jones has an excellent piece in the Conservative Woman about Matt Hancock’s mysterious obsession with a “second wave” and the ruinously expensive steps the Government is taking to prepare for this non-existent threat. Here’s his conclusion:

A lockdown that was brought in without precedent or planning for three weeks to ‘squash the sombrero’ and relieve peak pressure on the NHS is still going on five months later. We face a future of continued social distancing and unpredictable new restrictions that are socially debilitating and economically disastrous. Even the much-vaunted vaccine is very unlikely to do more than mitigate the impact of the illness, making it a likely false dawn for those waiting around for it.

Yet the World Health Organisation continues to call on governments to ‘do it all’ to ‘suppress, suppress, suppress’ the virus, holding up New Zealand as an ‘exemplar’. Britain, like Sweden, must reject this preposterous and nihilistic narrative. It is not possible to suppress this virus, as New Zealand is now discovering, but only to mitigate its impact while developing collective immunity and, ideally, returning to normal as quickly as possible. The measures introduced for this mitigation must be balanced against other risks and the high importance of normal, healthy living. Right now, the government does not even seem to be attempting a sensible cost-benefit analysis of its approach, working instead on the basis of a ‘reasonable worst-case scenario’ derived from discredited models. This is no way to run a country, nor a world.

Worth reading in full.

Up to 90% of People Who Test Positive Not Infectious

And this may explain why a rise in cases in countries like France, Spain and Italy hasn’t produced any corresponding rise in hospitalisations or deaths. According to a new study, up to 90% of people testing positive aren’t infectious. The Mail has more.

Up to 90 percent of people tested for COVID-19 in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada in July carried barely any traces of the virus and it could be because today’s tests are ‘too sensitive’, experts say.

Health experts say PCR testing – the most widely used diagnostic test for COVID-19 in the US – are too sensitive and need to be adjusted to rule out people who have insignificant amounts of the virus in their systems because they’re likely not contagious.

Today the PCR test, which provides a yes or no answer if a patient is infected, doesn’t say how much of the virus a patient has in their body.

The Mail‘s report is based on this story in the New York Times that we linked to a couple of days ago.

Four Charts Showing Casedemic Hasn’t Led to More Deaths

In case anyone thinks the rise in the number of people testing positive in Europe is cause for alarm, here are four charts showing cases and deaths in Italy, Spain, the UK and France.

Why Has Piers Corbyn Been Fined £10,000 But Not the Organisers of Sunday’s BLM Protest?

I got a lot of emails making this point yesterday:

I see Piers Corbyn gets arrested and fined £10,000 for “organising ” the anti-lockdown demo while Sunday’s BLM organisers “Ken Hinds, an adviser to Scotland Yard, Sasha Johnson, a youth worker and activist, rapper 2 Badda, and author Anthony Spencer” get away with “a word of advice”!

The Guardian has more on Sunday’s BLM protest here.

I disagree with almost everything Piers Corbyn has to say, but I would defend to the death his right to say it. You can contribute to his CrowdJustice fundraiser here.

Meanwhile, reader has put together a short film of Saturday’s protest.

Dispatch From Berlin

I’m publishing a “Postcard from Berlin” today that’s an account of attending the anti-lockdown protest on Saturday. My correspondent estimates a crowd of 150,000, nearly all of them sensible folk. Here’s an extract, giving you a sense of the sheer scale of the protest:

At 3.30pm the speeches started. By this point thousands of people were filling the entire length of the Straße des 17. Juni between the Victory Column and the Brandenburg Gate (2km), as well as Der Große Stern, the giant central square in the Tiergarten where the stage was set up. There were also huge numbers of protesters behind the Victory column on the Straße des 17. Juni heading west away from the Victory Column. Protesters spilled into the Tiergarten at the request of the organisers who announced several times that we needed to spread out into the garden or police would shut down the protest. Aerial footage shows the overwhelming crowds, but even this cannot show how many people were in the Tiergarten under the trees and in side streets. It took us over 25 minutes to walk from the Victory Column to the Brandenburg gate, and the whole street was full of protesters.

Worth reading in full.

Kim-Jong Dan Sued For Billions

Not laughing now, are you Mr Would-Be Dictator?

Daniel Andrews, the tyrannical leader of the state of Victoria in Australia, is facing a multi-billion-dollar class action suit from enraged local businessmen. Yahoo Finance AU has more.

The Victorian Government is facing a potential class action expected to be to the tune of several billion dollars brought by the businesses that have been shut down during the state’s stage four restrictions.

The class action is open to all Victorian-based businesses that were shut down after July 1st, according to an AFR report, and thousands are expected to take part.

The lawsuit is being launched by Sydney-based law firm Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, who are known for successfully winning a class action against the Queensland Government after the November 2011 floods.

The class action also names Victorian Ministers Jenny Mikakos, Martin Pakula as well as their department secretaries.

The lead plaintiff for the case is the owner of a New York-themed restaurant, Anthony Ferrara, who normally earns tens of thousand dollars a week but is now only open for takeaway and making below $10,000 a week.

“Victorian businesses don’t need charity or kind thoughts from politicians,” Ferrara said.

“We need certainty and we need it soon. Our situation is not our doing. We are calling to account those who put us in this dire position.”

The owner of Melbourne CBD’s The Carlton Club, Windsor Castle and Gertrude Hotel, Tracey Lester, is also expected to join the class action.

More power to their elbow.

The Tyranny of Coronaphobia

Professor Ramesh Thakur, former Assistant-General Secretary of the UN and arch-sceptic

Professor Ramesh Thakur had a full page interview in La Nacion, one of Argentina’s two main newspapers, on August 23rd. The interview has now been published in English in the weekly Open Magazine, under the title “The Tyranny of Coronaphobia”.

Prof Thakur has sent me a summary of the points he made:

  • “Coronaphobia” has taken over as the basis of government policy in so many countries, with a complete loss of perspective that life is a balance of risks pretty much on a daily basis.
  • The extent to which dominant majorities of peoples in countries with universal literacy can be successfully terrified into surrendering their civil liberties and individual freedoms has come as a frightening shock. On the one hand, the evidence base for the scale and gravity of the COVID-19 pandemic is surprisingly thin in comparison to the myriad other threats to our health that we face every year. We don’t ban cars on the reasoning that every life counts and even one traffic death is one too many lives lost. Instead, we trade a level of convenience for a level of risk to life and limb.
  • On the other hand, the restrictions imposed on everyday life as we know it have been far more draconian than anything previously done. Yet, the evidence for the effectiveness of draconian lockdowns is less than convincing. As one Lancet study concluded, “Rapid border closures, full lockdowns, and wide-spread testing were not associated with COVID-19 mortality per million people.” The virus infection has not risen exponentially in any country; rather, it seems to climb steeply, stop, turn around and retreat almost everywhere in tune with some internal timeframe independently of government intervention strategies; and, differences in numbers of dead notwithstanding, the shape of the curve seems remarkably similar for many countries.
  • The coronavirus threatens to overwhelm the health and economies of many developing countries where a billion people subsist in a Hobbesian state of nature and life is “nasty, brutish and short”. The rich carry the virus, the poor bear the burden since staying at home means foregoing daily income.
  • I remain very puzzled at how so many people I considered to be liberals have been so utterly indifferent to the plight of the poor and the casual labourers who do not have the luxury of working from home, nor savings to fall back on to tide their family over until they can earn an income again.
  • This is not to say that high-income Western countries are immune from the deadly effects of lockdown.
  • I wonder, too, if we have set ourselves up to repeat the folly every year with annual outbreaks of flu, especially if it is a bad flu season. If not, why not? Perhaps someone will come up with the slogan “Flu Lives Matter”. Or governments could just pass laws making it illegal for anyone to fall sick and die.
  • I hope that after the crisis is over, the balance between individual liberties and state power will be re-set instead of an even more powerful surveillance state being consolidated.

Worth reading in full.

The COVID-19 Assembly

The man behind Lockdown Truth, a companion website, is starting something called the COVID-19 Assembly. We asked him to do a few paragraphs explaining what it is.

The purpose of the COVID-19 Assembly is to allow the people themselves to take control of the COVID-19 narrative rather than the government and the mainstream media. By bypassing the MSM we will undertake the job of getting the real facts out to the public. One of the biggest problems with the current situation is that there is very limited information that the average person will come across without specifically looking for it. Most people simply aren’t aware that they don’t know many of the key facts about COVID-19 and “lockdown”.

We will create eye-catching and easy to understand content. Our “Top Ten Facts” can then be downloaded as leaflets, posters, roller displays, public presentations and slideshows for tablets and phones. All information will be based on official data and will avoid “conspiracy theories” which may put people off listening or helping. Volunteers will operate autonomously and present the facts to friends, families, colleagues, neighbours, clubs and amenity groups via pop-up displays in town squares and village halls or small meetings and workshops.

We will aim to create a diverse collection of people from ordinary members of the public to Nobel laureates working together to take control of this matter once and for all. Everyone has a part to play whether you just share our facts on social media or set up and run a local group. We need to work at local level changing public perception one person at a time. If we all do a little then the effect could be enormous.

If you’d like to join the Assembly, click here.

A Good Samaritan Writes…

Touching comment beneath yesterday’s update.

I thought I’d describe something that’s just happened in our local high street. My wife and I had just finished our walk and were heading home. We saw this little old lady (must have been in her 80s) obviously struggling with her shopping and could barely breath with her mask on so I stopped and asked if she needed help. I double and triple checked with her that she was OK with me handling her shopping so I carried it to the bus stop for her. My wife offered to walk with her at the same time and bless her, she linked arms with my wife.

All she did the entire time was thank us for helping her and kept asking if it was OK if she took her mask off. My wife said, “You can do whatever you feel comfortable with my dear. You don’t have to wear it but you can if you want.”

When we sat her down at the bus stop she held both our hands and said thank you ever so much. Her bus wasn’t for ages so my wife has gone back down in the car to give her a lift home

As we were walking away I actually started welling up because throughout the entire interaction, all I kept thinking was: “Can I handle her shopping, am I getting too close, is she going to feel uncomfortable?” When she grabbed our hands to say thank you, that’s what finally set me off.

All I kept thinking was, what the hell have we done to our country? Is this social damage irreversible? I hope not

Father Banned From Watching Baby’s Scan

A reader has been in touch with yet another NHS horror story.

My elder son and daughter-in-law are expecting their first baby in January 2021 and are understandably very excited about it (as are we as prospective grandparents). The first 12 week scan was in early August and my son was not allowed to attend with his wife. He offered to wear a face mask and not touch anything (or anyone apart from his wife) but was told in emphatic terms that no-one could accompany the pregnant mother and he would have to wait in the car (he was not even allowed into the hospital). The 20 week scan is in 2 weeks time, and this is an important scan as the medics check that there are no discernible abnormalities in the foetus, and if the parents wish, they can find out the sex of the baby. Again, he has been told he cannot attend and must wait in the car. This is cruel and heartless treatment. Seeing your baby on screen for the first time is a very special experience for both parents and for one of them to be denied that is unbelievable. I also wonder what happens if they do find a problem with the baby. Do they tell the mother and then leave her on her own to deal with the bad news? Or, do they decide that it is suddenly ‘safe’ for the husband to come in to the hospital so he can support his wife? They live in Solihull and this is not currently an ‘at risk’ area.

How long is this madness going to continue? Here we are nearly six months into this non-pandemic and still the government and NHS are insisting on ridiculous measures to keep the nearly non-existent virus ‘under control’. The hospitals are practically deserted anyway with very few patients attending any clinics. Next my son will be told that he’s not allowed to be at the birth itself!

Newsletter From the Society For the Elimination of Risk

James Hankins, a Harvard History Professor and lockdown sceptic, has written a brilliant spoof in Spectator USA purporting to be a newsletter from Eustace Stockstill, President of the Society for the Elimination of Risk. Here’s an extract:

Furthermore, our survey shows that, thanks to responsible selection of data by the press, the number of people who can distinguish absolute from relative risk has actually declined! Our efforts to raise awareness have led the British to believe that seven percent of Britons have died from coronavirus. Americans are even more aware, estimating that the virus has killed nine percent of their compatriots. Even if these judgments are faulty in a merely arithmetical sense, they surely serve the higher truth to which our Society is dedicated, that no risk is really tolerable. Our Society can congratulate itself for its part in creating this new and better form of rational ignorance. From now on, we and our cooperating scientists will get to decide what it is rational not to know. Who says that innumeracy can’t benefit society?

Worth reading in full.

Round-Up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Just one today: “Communication Breakdown” by Led Zeppelin.

Love in the Time of Covid

Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell in The Americans. Credit: Jeffrey Neira/FX

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened

A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.

Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all (and some of them are at risk of having to close again). Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 2nd to Oct 12th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £3.99 from Etsy here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 31,000).

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).

Stop Press: A reader has got in touch to tell us that her son’s school – Bedgrove Junior School in Aylesbury, Bucks – is insisting that children as young as six will have to wear face masks. Shocking.

We have, today been sent an email which no doubt was on “delayed send” on Bank Holiday Monday in order to prevent immediate readings of furious replies or the inevitable march of angry parents to the school gates, stating children from 6yrs –11yrs are required to wear face masks on the school grounds to “practise” for when the Government makes it mandatory.

The school have stated that masks are to be worn on the way into and out of school, into and out of classrooms and corridors.

Meanwhile, some headteachers think it’s too dangerous to let all children back into schools.

Molly Kingsley speaks for all parents when she says we’ve had enough.

Shameless Begging Bit

Thanks as always to those of you who made a donation in the past 24 hours to pay for the upkeep of this site. Doing these daily updates is a lot of work (although I have help from lots of people, mainly in the form of readers sending me stories and links). If you feel like donating, please click here. And if you want to flag up any stories or links I should include in future updates, email me here. (If you want me to link to something, don’t forget to include the HTML code).

And Finally…

In this week’s episode of London Calling, James Delingpole and I discuss Piers Corbyn’s £10,000 fine (he should have worn a Black Lives Matter t-shirt), why we’re both such embarrassing dads and the appalling mobbing of the singer Adele for “cultural appropriation”.

Why does the woke Left direct its most vicious abuse towards people who are basically on the same side, but deviate from the orthodoxy in some minor, entirely innocent way? It’s as if they don’t want to change society for the better, just find excuses for cancelling people.

You can listen here. And if you like it, you can subscribe on iTunes here.

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Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
5 years ago

I ve won !!
and for my prize I’ d like a weekend in Stockholm ( without quarantine on return )

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

I have just one word for you. Flockimmunitet. My favourite (and only) bit of Swedish.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  Sylvie

Back in march, would flock immunity have been more acceptable to the masses than herd immunity?

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago

It’s a shame about real life, we can’t go back and run a random controlled blind trial.

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Places I never wish to visit again are Melbourne, Victoria with dictator Dan Andrews and New Zealand led by the vacuous St Jacinda. The latter has the largest city of Auckland under lockdown level 2.5 not that this 2020 NPI ( non phamaceutical intervention ) copyright China has done or will do much to affect the ultimate course of the viral spread.

Bella donna
Bella donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

And there was I bemoaning a lost opportunity to emigrate to either of those countries. 🙄

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

do you mean ‘or return’

The Walrus
The Walrus
5 years ago

Corbyn’s GoFundMe taken down already!

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  The Walrus

So I was told. Why is that? Who can take it down, or order it taken down? Anyone know?

Bella donna
Bella donna
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

My comment above explains the mystery, the target has been achieved!

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella donna

Ok, thanks – I thought it had been taken down before it reached its limit. Good news in a bleak landscape.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Bella donna

That must really piss ‘them’ off.

Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

Are we going to talk about how the CDC confirmed that 94% of US covid deaths had comorbidities and only 6% died of covid alone?
https://youtu.be/FkvES1hHWFw

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Lots of comments yesterday.

Cheshirecatslave
Cheshirecatslave
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

It seems that might have been a misunderstanding of how death certicates in the USA are written.
https://medium.com%2F@medium.com/@gidmk/covid-19-deaths-are-mostly-caused-by-coronavirus-2a6d2d43bd09

Mark H
Mark H
5 years ago

I love how there’s always someone quick to write an article attempting to debunk data that should take some of the fear out of COVID-19, essentially “yeah, but…still be afraid”.

One of the comments on that Medium article points out that deaths from poisoning, etc, have been counted as COVID-19 deaths…

dpj
dpj
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

Surely it’s only a matter of time now before someone up on a murder charge says ‘Your honour, I may have stabbed them 15 times with a large knife but it was actually Covid that killed them’

6097 Smith W
6097 Smith W
5 years ago
Reply to  dpj

Several Covid deaths have gunshot wounds as comorbidities and road accidents

mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

There’s a nice comment from Brian on that article stating that 50,000 people are already dying of pneumonia in relation to those “Covid” deaths of people with underlying pneumonia.

This cannot be overstated. Covid as a secondary infection makes it practically indistinguishable from other respiratory infections.

The uniquely Covid cases are the ones where you can see the numbers for Covid.

As has been said here multiple times by others and by me, you need to have low noise data to make good attributions, otherwise you are just counting the noise of Nature and saying it’s different.

Imagine we started a running total on cancer deaths and heart attacks. You get the point.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

That’s why ‘All Cause’ mortality is the only way to indirectly assess the impact of Covid.

Any claims to distinguish ‘Covid’ deaths can be dismissed as bollocks (to use a formal statistical term).

rational actor
rational actor
5 years ago

I know a couple of police officers who have told me that they are aware of at least one homicide victim that was put down as a covid death on the certificate, so I am not surprised by any other type of miscounting. And Medium? Please.

nat
nat
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Toby posted about that in yesterday’s round up, but certainly worth bringing up again.

Will
Will
5 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Remarkably similar figures to the UK, funnily enough. Peak absurdity was the strategically shaven gorilla, Ross Kemp, in a hospice where three people had “died of” covid.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago

Covidiots and masked muttons are AI (Artificially Intelligent).

Ed Turnbull
Ed Turnbull
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Actually the masked muttons are “AI” in the sense of “absent intelligence”.

IMoz
IMoz
5 years ago

Literally can’t make it up: when everyone is qRT-PCR “testing” for COVID-19 like headless chickens, someone publishes a “Teachable Moment” article in JAMA on the detrimental overuse of PCR-type Respiratory Viral Panels! :-))

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2769773

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  IMoz

Did you see the comment?

PAUL FUCHS, M.D. | Solo Family Physician
“The patient . . . charge of $3569 for the RVP . . . cost of an RVP is about $200.”

IMoz
IMoz
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

I don’t think it’s as tragic as it sounds: it’s charged to the insurance anyway 😉

ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  IMoz

Yes, but US insurance costs families at least $10,000 a year. So inflated charges get back to people one way or another. It’s not like the insurance company just swallows them.

IMoz
IMoz
5 years ago

Here’s something that nobody here would be surprised by:- All acute anxiety queries were cumulatively 11% (95% CI, 7%-14%) higher than expected (Figure) for the 58-day period that started when President Trump first declared a national emergency (March 13, 2020) and ended with the last available date of data (May 9, 2020). This spike was a new all-time high for acute anxiety searches. [Ed] In absolute terms this translates to approximately 375 000 more searches than expected for a total of 3.4 million searches.The largest spike in acute anxiety queries occurred on March 28, 2020, with 52% (95% PI, 27%-81%) more queries than expected. Moreover, most excess queries occurred between March 16, 2020, and April 14, 2020, when queries were cumulatively 17% (95% CI, 13%-22%) higher than expected. During this time national social distancing guidelines were first imposed (March 16, 2020) and extended (March 29, 2020), the US passed China with the most reported cases (March 26, 2020), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended using facemasks (April 3, 2020), and the US passed Italy for most deaths (April 11, 2020).5 Queries first returned to expected levels on April 15, 2020, with all queries falling within expected prediction intervals thereafter. —… Read more »

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago

Uuugh that pic of Hancock is becoming further nauseating with every viewing.

Apparently the Swedes are stocking up on masks because they just can’t wait for their government to recommend them and are chomping at the bit to play their part. Either that or there’s a number of entrepreneurs looking to flip them to France, Spain and the UK possibly. Oh boy another pro mask MSM news item dropped on our heads again!

All is well on the west coast of Canada. I have blacked out the local media for months but I did see a gov’t commercial last night that almost made me vomit…oh here it is, so touching is the delivery I almost cried
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6z_1edIrs

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie

Oh and I feel for Adele I must say. I was a wannabee Rastafarian back in my early 20s and rocked the Jamaica ’98 world cup kit all that summer. I never went with dreads but boy did I sure want to (thin white boy hair just wasn’t gonna work). It’s so sad white people can no longer pay tribute to other cultures and be part of something different. Cancel!!!!

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie

The Confederate Flag is also the flag of Rockabilly music.

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie

The Police made an entire career of playing cod reggae!

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Strange Days

the Police can play Reggae very well indeed, crap bands like UB40 played cod reggae

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

No argument from me re UB40, but I don’t l like Sting as a vocalist. The cover of Revolution Rock by The Clash is my touchstone for white boy reggae. It would be a dull old world if we all liked the same things, at present any live gig would be heaven

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Black Uhuru. Good stuff.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Strange Days

Cultural Appropriation.

I saw The Police live at Percival Molson Stadium, Montreal, in 1983. The English Beat also performed there that night. Great show.

Strange Days
Strange Days
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Mirror in the Bathroom? Here they were simply The Beat, was there also a Canadian band called The Beat?

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Strange Days

It was your The Beat, here English Beat. They sang Mirror in the bathroom and dozens more. Great group. Would have loved to see The Specials and The Selector, but no dice.

Bella donna
Bella donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie

I’m thinking of using his face as a darts board!

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago

The Victorian Government is facing a potential class action expected to be to the tune of several billion dollars brought by the businesses that have been shut down during the state’s stage four restrictions.

Good. Hope to see thousands more in the coming days, weeks and months.

Bella donna
Bella donna
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Fantastic news.

ConstantBees
ConstantBees
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Hopefully that will give British business owners ideas.

Caramel
Caramel
5 years ago

Weekly webinar from Plan B in NZ. Do watch their other interviews, they have excellent interviews with Prof Sunetra Gupta, Prof Jay Battacharya, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae5Fo4wQDaE

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

Argentina offers irrefutable evidence that long lock downs spell disaster
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/argentina-perfect-evidence-that-lockdown-are-a-disaster/

Hailed as a model at the beginning of the pandemic, the world’s longest lockdown has not saved Argentina from coronavirus misery as cases and daily deaths continue to skyrocket

CHRIS MOSS
DESTINATION EXPERT telegraph

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

As we learned some time ago, lockdown simply delays the inevitable, if Covid’s gonna get you then eventually it will, unless you stay shielding forever and die of something else first.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

N hs Louise Hampton – Nurse Whistle blower – MUST WATCH AND SHARE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu5KQtzBRYU&t=1s

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Very brave young woman, let’s hope she can find a place in private healthcare when the NHS sack and blackball her.

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m in love! We need hundreds more like her to come forth and speak the truth.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

05.05 1/9/20
Already been removed, ‘violating terms of service’.
Must have been the truth then.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

He had also been removed from PayPal

He was showing a US Firefighter doing oxygen tests on masks all of which showed mask fall below the recommend safety level of oxygen. It also showed how dangerous it was for old people to wear masks

Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

I have had a look on banned.video, but I am not exactly sure what I am searching for. Can anyone provide further details?

Darryl
Darryl
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

I believe you need to search for Politico . Can’t believe it was removed, but nothing surprises me anymore! His YouTube channel is worth watching he is a fellow lockdown sceptic.

ColoradoGirl
ColoradoGirl
5 years ago

All the stories about universities in America are absolutely true. Our daughter is a freshman music major at CSU. In addition to all the usual mask mandates and gathering prohibitions, she was told that she would be allowed into a practice room (by herself) only three hours per week. Because bands and orchestras are cancelled, she was put in three woodwind quintets. They will not be allowed to practice for two weeks. When they can practice, each group will only be allowed 30 minutes rehearsal per week.
Her roommate reported a runny nose and loss of taste on Monday. By the evening she was taken to the isolation dorm in a white van. The poor roommate has not been given a test, so no out until September 4. Surprisingly, our daughter has so far escaped the clutches of the contact tracers. She heard no word from them.
Despite the restrictions, our daughter is making friends and meeting with others—all highly illegal, of course. We are proud of her for making the best of it, but the situation is so maddening!

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  ColoradoGirl

I doubt if University anywhere will be a barrel of laughs this year.

rational actor
rational actor
5 years ago
Reply to  ColoradoGirl

Roommate? One of the many things that used to make UK unis superior to their US counterparts were the single rooms. But it seems that even in the midst of a batflu panic US institutions won’t endanger their income by permitting people to live alone, or indeed mandating them to do so.

Also, ‘isolation dorm’ and ‘white van’ are creepy concepts. I am glad your daughter is doing her own thing, which will stand her well in life.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

LOCKDOWNS DON’T WORK

Top 10 Countries for Death Rates (sources Worldometers website)

1 San Marino
2 Peru
3 Belgium
4 Andorra
5 Spain
6 UK
7 Chile
8 Italy
9 Sweden
10 Brazil

All had severe lock downs apart form Sweden and Brazil

Bella donna
Bella donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

And still the government won’t listen to real facts. They’re going ahead with this scam no matter what. When you read 3 out of 4 people globally will have the vaccine it makes you wonder if they’ve put something in the water supply!

PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

If cities or states were allowed on the list, would Sweden and Brazil be knocked out of the top ten?

Youth_Unheard
Youth_Unheard
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Buttttt but but as the other side would say, there are 180 countries that have therefore done better than Sweden and Brazil, case closed, evil murderers.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

The only problem is that the Worldometer figures are fraught with data problems.

If you use ‘all-cause’ mortality, Sweden, for instance, does much better than the above list would suggest.

karenovirus
5 years ago

Breakfast @Beefeater.
(This branch has always been table service).

I popped in for coffee when they reopened in time for the 50% thing a month ago but, as expected, they were Covid Safety Crazeee.
Thought I’d give it a go on the last 50% day.

I’ve been using it for thirty years and was in the habit of ignoring the ‘wait here to be seated’ sign but thought it best to play by the rules.
Greeted promptly by a somewhat fey young young man “ooh have you not booked, let’s see if I can squeeze you in” which he did after leading me around three sides of the restaurant to an empty 6 place table.

He went to explain the new procedures, much the same as always except that I would have trust him to select my fresh fruit salad which I’m a bit picky about so declined.
Apart from that everything was perfectly normal, neither customers or staff with masks, everyone ignoring the remnant floor arrows. Breakfast was excellent, 2nd coffee on the patio and all for less than a fiver.

9 out of 10 for Beefeater.

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

 fey young young man “ooh have you not booked, let’s see if I can squeeze you in”

Titter ye not

Panda
Panda
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Lol 🙂

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Forgot to mention, no Track’n’Trace at all, they have my card details but I expect data protection and stuff would stop them using that to track me down.

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I very much doubt that, ‘during the emergency period’. Remember, these people issued guidance for Death Certificates that effectively says “bang ’em through – don’t get the coroner involved, unless you have to”.

Polemon2
Polemon2
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Clearly not all Beefeaters are equal.

alw
alw
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Don’t go to a Mitchells and Butlers owned pub. OTT and soulless.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

The Establishment loves its “hate crimes”.

How about using the term “Covidiot” a hate crime.

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

The BBC never give any context to new cases for Covid 19.
They always say new infections to make it sound more deadly.
They never point out that most people who test positive for Covid aren’t actually ill from it and never will be. Also you don’t usually test people for any illness when they are not ill.
They don’t point out that the more people you test the more positive tests you will receive. The so called spikes in Europe have all been down to extra testing.
They never point out the countries that have had the severest lockdowns: Belgium, Peru, France, Italy, Spain had the worst death rates.

Mark H
Mark H
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

Any news outlet calling a person COVID-19 positive after a test when the person doesn’t have symptoms is lying. COVID-19 is the disease caused by the SARS-COV-2 virus. So, if they don’t symptoms of the disease, they can’t be classed as a “case” of COVID-19.

Awkward Git
Awkward Git
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark H

Try telling that to Government and MSM.

Doesn’t work.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Galileo got into some serious trouble for pointing out that the earth revolves around the sun and not vice versa.

Hard to believe but we’re living a similar experience now. Truth and demonstrable facts are not only ignored but they can get you into trouble.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Stephen Priest

I took a screenshot of Toby’s graphs above, illustrating lots of new cases virtually no new deaths. Just showed it to someone when ‘cases’ were being bigged up on the radio. Worked a treat.

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve a mate who’s very clever indeed, he’s a number of degrees and works in the Aerospace Industry and considers himself smarter than you, he’s not a dick really but he is very smart but he won’t look at this site and disbelieves anything i tell him out of hand. For a clever man he’s thick as shit.

Alison9
Alison9
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I know the type – intelligent people who aren’t smart!

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  Alison9

My Platoon Sergeant used to say “ten A-levels and no commonsense”.

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago
Reply to  Alison9

Ha I do it the other way around, smart people who aren’t intelligent.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

The young person I showed it to probably has 3 or 4 ‘0’ levels but she saw the significance straight away.
I’ve since show it to someone ‘in the military’ who asked about the provenance and was gratifying puzzled.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

He must know how to work out the surface area of a jam jar lid, but has no clue how to get at the jam.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I know a few people like that, the “cleverer” they are the less they are likely to listen to anything outside the acceptable narrative.

steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

A friend and his wife are teacher/doctors. Both complete bed wetters and haven’t been seen since feb.

I called a friend up to go hiking. She wanted to Drive with the window open for 2 hours cos she is being “careful” ffs. Didn’t go

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

“Pepys’ Diary

1/9/20

Yesterday the freedom loving dictator introduced new laws aimed at crushing all dissent

One of the first beneficiaries was a 72 year old London man who was arrested for making a speech suggesting that the government had been less than truthful with us.

During his ten hours in the pokey, he was offered food that the police themselves declared was not fit for human consumption

He received a fine of ten thousand pounds, which will be enough to buy a loaf of bread by the time Christmas comes

A woman on a flight to Cardiff announced that she has achieved Sainthood. Saint Joan of Dark announced that all the other passengers and crew on the plane were mad and intent on harming her

The authorities agreed and locked all 197 of them up

The beatified one then locked herself up, preventing her return to work

The Greek government promised to put on a free barbeque for Saint Joan if she ever returned to their country

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

So long as it’s the same kind of barbecue the last Saint Joan enjoyed.

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Quod scripsi, scripsi 

Albie
Albie
5 years ago

So many people are on power trips lately, none more so than Hancock and Sturgeon. I’m undecided which of those two relish it the most. I’d perhaps go for Sturgeon as she seems to know full well what she’s doing, thus adding a sinister dimension to hers, whereas Hancock seems to make a lot up as he goes along.

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

Hancock is thick.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I agree. A generator of innovation during times of emergency he is not. So where do all his schemes come from?

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Knee-jerk reactions based on what he feels like at the time, all the while seeking to give the impression that he’s decisive and in control. He sees this episode as a stepping stone to higher office.

He doesn’t appear to be on any leash, or to have to justify his actions to MPs or even the PM (who is essentially absent-without-leave).

A vain, stupid man, whose ineptitude in normal times would ensure a swift return to the back benches, and who I hope one day to see on manslaughter charges.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

And: Terrorism, Malfeasance in public office, Treason, Manslaughter, War Crimes, and child abuse.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Someone suggested previously that Johnson and Handprick rely on computer bots trawling through mumsnet and the like to tell what’s trending and basing policy on that. Nothing they have done recently indicates otherwise.

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Did I read somewhere that one of their metrics was how many Google queries include ‘coronavirus’?

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Handprick. Don’t you mean Chinese Cock?

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

His fertile imagination.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

A useful IDIOT busily working for his global overlords for gold stars and Harribo.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

https://twitter.com/ELConservatives/status/1300504741315842048?s=20

Things are getting Sturgeon down it’s a slow decline but a pleasing one. It seems she isn’t sleeping too well.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

Wancock might think that he’s on top of the world now with whilst endowing himself with almost godlike and dictatorial powers but he forgets one thing at his peril – what goes around come around.

His day of reckoning will come and I hope he will be suitably punished for all the misery and harm that he has inflicted on the people of Britain.

Basileus
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

A large portion of the cabinet or suspiciously silent. Are knives being sharpened in the background?.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

I suspect they are. Like the writing on the wall story in the Bible, Wancock’s days like that of Boris are numbered. He has been weighed on the balances and found wanting.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

This is a classic example of why leaders MUST NOT panic when everybody else does. In situations like this one, people need leadership and reassurance, not misfiring policies and absent ministers.

Or should that be absent policies and misfiring ministers?

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Exactly. Once they panic they lose all credibility and confidence.

And we’re paying for the consequences now.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Most definitely. The writing is on the wall if you care to look.

Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

But the glee he seems to show in ruining our lives must also apply to his own life. He is ruining his own life, and that of his children, friends and relatives. That’s one aspect of this I can’t understand. If his policies are driving us towards a Mad Max world, or an East Germany, or a 1984, he’s doing it to himself. Presumably he has a pension scheme and various houses, and lots of cash. Well, when they come for the wealth as they surely will, he stands to end up as poor as the rest of us. Nothing can be relied on any more. He can’t rely on having mates in the government or guaranteed directorships to keep him comfortable, because what is happening is so drastic that we may end up being bought by China, or installing a bona fide dictator.

We had a chance to recover the old normal a few months back. Maybe we still could with a full-on “It’s Over” campaign, but these dickheads seem determined to ruin their own lives as well as ours.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Agree. It makes you wonder if he does ever think of the effects his insane policies are affecting his family and friends.

Or he doesn’t care thinking he’s doing it for the “greater good”

I do sincerely hope that his reckoning will include what you’ve mentioned above – complete and utter ostracism to the point that he will be peniless and friendless in the end.

Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Psychopaths don’t have empathy

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Barney McGrew

Like Hitler.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

With a bullet, I hope.

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Albie

Sturgeon doesn’t know what’s she’s doing. Like a lot of these MP’s they talk and talk and talk and say fuck all because they know fuck all. Sturgeon is a classic example of this. I hate them for it. She doesn’t have the decency to know her own limitations. When i worked in a shipyard that refitted War Ships we had a sub in for a new gearbox amongst other things. The gaffer picked this asshole who didn’t know fuck all to lead the team to refit the gearbox. Four months latter after i’d be twirling my thumbs fixing boilers and the like they got me and this other dude to take over. The useless fucker had caused millions of pounds of damage when they switched on the gear box and it wasn’t done right. he know he wasn’t up to the task, everyone knew but he was a asshole, a mason and a union man, i was none of these things. On the completion of this job i left and worked for five years for a very prestigious car company.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

These days it’s the destroyers that keep on breaking down.

PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

The only unique skill that all politicians share, is being able to talk non stop, without saying a word.

Funkmaster
Funkmaster
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

As the Godfather himself said:
Like a dull knife that just aint cuttin’
he’s talkin’ loud and saying nothin’
(James Brown)

Stephen Priest
Stephen Priest
5 years ago

Pupils to face GCSE and A-Level exam delay next summer

The Education Secretary has indicated he will back plans to give pupils more time

Frank Spencer strikes again

Basics
Basics
5 years ago

Already mentioned this 9ngoing defence of Holyrood agaisnt the supposed threat of extinction rebellion protests. But here for tge record is local press covering the story from a few days ago.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/heightened-police-presence-around-holyrood-18852233

Relevant by comparrison to the weekends Lockdown protests. Will a £10k bill be issues to the establishmemt stooge the ‘information’ came from.

6097 Smith W
6097 Smith W
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

No

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Find out this coming weekend. Isn’t there an anti-lockdown protest in E’boro on Saturday?

ikaraki
ikaraki
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

There are/were indeed a lot of police at Holyrood, thought it was a bit odd when I have been driving past, especially when there was one standing outside the Royal Mile entrance at 02:00…

Nsklent
Nsklent
5 years ago

I think the article is a little harsh on Mr Corbyn, with the comment on there is little I can agree on what Corbyn says. His argument for Brexit has been balanced as has been his challenge of the climate change narrative – I can’t comment on the 5G issue as I have yet to look into the supposed controversy over this, and to debunk his argument without first researching into the basis of his opposition would be unfair. However, whether you agree with his sentiments or not, he cannot be denied his guts for going out there and standing by his beliefs and not for financial gain or self promotion.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Nsklent

James Delingpole would have called Mr. Young’s remarks cuckish.

hotrod
hotrod
5 years ago

Can anyone explain the specific reasons why cases increase but deaths do not?

Those charts on Today’s home page are fantastic but as I share with family and colleagues today I know I will be challenged to explain them.

What is so different now to what it was in March?

Why is every country not seeing the deaths?

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

Why don’t you challenge them to explain them?

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

Largely down to a false impression created by PCR testing, and greatly increased PCR testing. A positive PCR test is recorded as a ‘case’, although only a proportion (and possibly a small proportion) are actual ‘cases’.

https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1300430872164937728?s=20

Also maybe the virus is less serious than it was, as commonly happens with such viruses as they mutate over time.

Another factor may be that back in the spring the disease spread in large part through hospitals and the like, which meant it got to very vulnerable people – hence deaths. There do appear to be better protocols in place now to stop hospital spread.

Lucan Grey
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Also maybe the virus is less serious than it was, as commonly happens with such viruses as they mutate over time.”

Less mutate as evolve. Every virus is different as it is formed from RNA recombination under protein refolding. Those that kill their hosts won’t spread, whereas those that don’t will – passing their RNA onto the next refolding event.

Creationists won’t like it 🙂

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Yes, evolve may be a more accurate description – your second para. is what I was getting at.

matt
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

A few reasons Firstly, the increase in community testing means that infections are being found that otherwise would have been there anyway, but undetected because symptoms are either very mild or not present at all. An inevitable false positive rate from the tests (whatever that false positive rate is) will also necessarily be inflating the numbers. Secondly, as compared with March, when “case numbers” were at similar levels, larger numbers of the people being tested are either not sick, or not very sick. In March, only people ill enough to be admitted to hospital (plus healthcare workers) were being tested, meaning that a higher proportion of them would have been sick enough for the disease to kill them (or contribute to their deaths). People being tested now are mostly people who decide to get tested because they have mild symptoms, or just for the hell of it because they have no symptoms at all. You can see this in the France numbers – a significant jump in cases in mid August, when the rules were changed so that you could get a test without a doctor’s prescription (the doctor’s prescription indicating that you probably had symptoms). Thirdly, these “cases” are… Read more »

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

Doctors are saying that treatments which did not work in March are working now which may indicate that the Covid has mutated into something more benign which is what some virus do.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  matt

SARS-COV-2 is an RNA virus, rather than a DNA virus, and as a result mutates more quickly. Researchers believe this one is mutating more slowly than expected however.

It’s possible that it started out as a benign virus, mutated into a more deadly strain that self-destructed (if a virus kills its hosts, it’s on borrowed time itself), leaving behind the “original” which is still relatively benign.

guy153
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Coronaviruses mutate rather slowly compared to other RNA viruses because they have error correction in in their RNA polymerase. There is one mutation that has definitely undergone natural selection called “D614G”. It emerged in Europe in about February and became the dominant strain. It was more infectious and about the same mortality. Another mutation that was in the news was the “382 nucleotide deletion” mutation that was first detected around the end of January. This has been confirmed to make the disease less severe but doesn’t have much effect on infectiousness. I don’t think this strain has become particularly dominant though. There have been a total of about 300,000 known “mutation events” but they are mostly just changes of one nucleotide in places that don’t matter. So it might have evolved to become less deadly, but the explanation matt gave is far more likely– we’re just doing a lot more testing. The UK still officially has about 300,000 “cases” but the true number of people who were ever infected is likely to be greater than 20 million, most of them around the first few weeks of March. If you drew the true first “wave” on the graph anything that’s happening… Read more »

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  guy153

Is the error correction a natural attribute of the RNA or was it inserted in a lab?

guy153
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

I think it’s something coronaviruses have had for thousands or millions of years

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  guy153

They were the first to create error correction. Impressive.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

The cases are positive tests, not sick people. Most people who test positive aren’t sick in any way.

This form of mass testing for a virus is completely unprecedented.

If tested they everyone in the same way for the flu virus, they would also find thousands of people who tested positive but aren’t sick. Maybe more, given that more people are actually sick and dying with flu than Covid at the moment.

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Now and again, if people mention going to the doctor (remember that?), I trot out my ‘joke’:

My mate went for a blood test – they found it all around his body!

What they are doing now, for real, is no less silly than that.

Edward
Edward
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

That’s what usually seems to be the case with footballers etc. who test positive – they’re not showing any symptoms but still have to self-isolate. I’m sure all sorts of things relating to illnesses could be found in people’s bodies – normally we don’t look for them unless the person is unwell. Is anyone from the Tui flight to Wales actually unwell? – the media have been quiet on that aspect while making lots of fuss about those who didn’t wear masks.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Hypochondria is an infectious disease.

Ed Turnbull
Ed Turnbull
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

The word ‘case’ has been redefined (much like the word ‘woman’, but that’s a rant for another day), but you won’t get the MSM or government to admit that. Back in March a ‘case’ was someone with symptoms sufficiently serious as to require hospitalisation.

But now a ‘case’ is simply someone who has a positive test. And all a positive test indicates is that the subject has certain RNA fragments in their body. It’s not confirmation that they are carrying a viable virus, are infectious, or are actually ill. And with greatly increased testing a greater number of ‘cases’ will be discovered. But the ‘case’ numbers are meaningless, unless you want to perpetuate the fear.

Deaths are way down because most of those who were vulnerable to COVID-19 have already succumbed to it.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  hotrod

This is not new.
Before our lockdown in March things were looking very bad in S.Korea with a death rate some 10% of cases.
They implemented a mass testing of, from memory, 500,000 random people many of whom proved to have already had the disease but not noticed.
Their death rate was subsequently amended to 0.001%. A cause for celebration and merriment.

Hanprick must know of this but is using the same metric to declare disaster and lockdown, tosser.

Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Megalomaniac, in fact.

karenovirus
5 years ago

Young lady who went to Weston Super Mare for the bank holiday tells me that all was relatively relaxed except they were obliged to wear masks on the fun pier, not just inside the arcades but when perambulating up and down in the fresh sea air (one way walking of course).

Humanity First
Humanity First
5 years ago

A thought-provoking post by ‘Moneycircus’ on Off Guardian: “People want to get on with their lives. It seems there are three ways to do this. One is to try to ignore Covid entirely. This seems impossible because traps have been laid at every door. Testing, surveillance, disinformation, compliance, intrusion into our very computers and working tools. If you are part of the corporate bureaucracy this may work, because in a strange way you ARE Covid. Another approach is to lash out in all directions, demanding freedom ‘as was’ and pushing back against each and every affront to our lives: smartphones, surveilled email, 5G, the credit-debt trap. In doing so we are forced to reject conventional employment, even conventional locations: perhaps this works if we band together with others, go off grid and ‘back to the land’. We become invisible. A third approach is to engage the enemy. To seek to identify exactly who is behind this. The targeted approach perhaps allows us to avoid this enemy, to inhabit different planes in the same space. And if most people want to comply, to live in parallel but jostling for space, for land, for rights. This is the most political option, setting oneself against… Read more »

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Humanity First

i’m right behind you bro, you tell us who we need go fight and i’m there, since you’re the big man and all

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

We need to educate the people who are captivated by the msm and ‘gov’t’ propaganda. Most means of communication is denied to us. We can still try to engage with people we know, even at the risk of alienating some – but who cares as this is a matter of life or slow death. We can each also print a dozen or so leaflets, distribute them or post them on notice boards. As a start, I put together a leaflet in word, three to a landscape page, double sided and shown below. HCQ HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE People in the global South take the anti-malarial drug HCQ.  Nobody there died of Covid-19. Our ‘governments’ denied us access to HCQ and many who suffered from Covid-19 died needlessly. One tablet of HCQ per week guards against infection from Sars-Cov-2.   A group of doctors in the United States have successfully treated hundreds of Covid-19 patients with HCQ, but the authorities there are desperately trying to deny them access to the drug. Any mention of HCQ on the internet is quickly taken down. There has also been a major disinformation campaign where fraudulent ‘scientific’ papers attacking HCQ have been published. HCQ is cheap, safe and effective and means that very… Read more »

RichardJames
5 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

HCQ is effective, but should be accompanied by Zinc (which is the actual killing agent) an antibiotic (normally Azithromycin) which deals with any pneumonic bacterial infection, and for those who become symptomatic, a blood thinner such as low-dose aspirin to avoid lung damage from micro-clots, a common side-effect of the disease.

PastImperfect
PastImperfect
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

We need to educate the people who are captivated by the msm and ‘gov’t’ propaganda. Most means of communication is denied to us. We can still try to engage with people we know, even at the risk of alienating some – but who cares as this is a matter of life or slow death. We can each also print a dozen or so leaflets, distribute them or post them on notice boards. As a start, I put together a leaflet in word, three to a landscape page, double sided and shown below. I tried posting this with links I had on the other side, but it is awaiting approval and may never make it, so here is the front. (HCQ was 120 point) HCQ HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE People in the global South take the anti-malarial drug HCQ.  Nobody there died of Covid-19. Our ‘governments’ denied us access to HCQ and many who suffered from Covid-19 died needlessly. One tablet of HCQ per week guards against infection from Sars-Cov-2.   A group of doctors in the United States have successfully treated hundreds of Covid-19 patients with HCQ, but the authorities there are desperately trying to deny them access to the drug. Any mention of HCQ on the… Read more »

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Humanity First

I think you’ll find that many come here to read and vent just to stay sane.

We are also here to cheer on anyone who has any specific ideas – like KBF, or marches, or whatever it might be. Don’t underestimate the importance of cheerleaders.

Baloo
Baloo
5 years ago

I can confirm in the Leicester hospital trusts my brother in-law has been instructed that he won’t be allowed to be with his wife until she arrives on labour suite. Whether he is actually allowed in there until she actually starts pushing/baby arrives I’m not sure. No partners/husband’s are allowed on the postnatal wards (although both parents are allowed on neonatal wards) thus he will be allowed maybe an hour or two before he is kicked out and wife and baby taken to the postnatal ward.

From the same hospital(s) when collecting baby to go home, mum has to carry baby (presumably in a car seat) to the front hospital entrance (SiL observed a mother of twins struggling to do this). Welcoming a baby into the world was a special and extremely emotional time when two people or family members were required for the support and well-being of the mother. Seems now it’s become a horror show with sadistic people power tripping to enforce this is insanity.

Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Baloo

Just another example of the NHS being utterly horrible. The whole thing is anti human. I’d find a barn and give birth next to a donkey before id set foot in one of their disgusting hospitals where if the nurses or the doctors don’t kill you the bugs that liv everywhere will.

Humanity First
Humanity First
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Yes it is all anti-human. It is clear that all those pushing for this new world are bereft of any sense of, or empathy for, humanity.

Baloo
Baloo
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I’d say that was a little strong. From my recent experiences the midwives, Drs and nurses are beyond excellent. The utterly subhuman realities are the edicts coming from management and enforced by those power tripping or coerced through threats of their job (Stanford prison experiment springs to mind). But the fact still remains of the over exaggeration of this threat. Take precautions for a nosocomial disease, don’t make being human utterly miserable in the process.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Baloo

They could go home immediately after neonatal.

Cbird
Cbird
5 years ago
Reply to  Baloo

Not the same thing, but similarly f***ed up: my niece had her first scan recently, no husband allowed of course. She was told that the next scan will show whether the baby is a boy or a girl, but naturally husband will still be banned. So the nurse is going to write the sex down on a bit of paper so that my niece and her husband can find out together. Nuts

SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
5 years ago
Reply to  Cbird

Don’t be silly. The sex isn’t assigned until birth and then it’s meaningless – they’ll have to wait until the child displays a preference for toy dolls or soldiers and only then they’ll definitively know the gender.

Sonia
Sonia
5 years ago
Reply to  Baloo

It’s all rather absurd. Had my book in appointment over the phone, after I had to book it over the phone. Was advised I have to be home alone and it will take an hour, so we can discuss weather I am in an abusive relationship. They didn’t because they couldn’t be sure that my husband is not listening/ controlling me. 12 weeks scan alone, obviously, but husband had to take time off as needed transport and childcare. Deemed high risk by powers to be and needed more consultant appointments. 16 weeks appointment, husband needs to take time off again, they tried to change it 7 MINUTES before the appointment to phone call only. 20 weeks scan on my own. Do NOT need to see anybody for next 10 week. Go figure. My next appointments will be to see midwife, have a blood test, have a scan and have an anti-D jab. All in one week on separate days.Not sure if they think hospital is a dangerous place or place to be for me. Looking forward to that fun.

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Why has the government banned all gatherings of 30 people?

It cannot be the virus as it is no longer a threat

Why did the government announce an extra 13 quid a day for people on benefits?

Could it be that there will be 20+ million unemployed by Christmas?

Could it be that all private property (except for a chosen few) will need to be confiscated to pay the bills?

When the paid for holidays, subsidised meals, loans on the never never, and the ritual clapping stops it’s not going to be pretty

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You can now be with 500 people if you are Swedish.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Not yet karenovirus! They’re talking about a 500 person limit from October 1st… but only under certain conditions – people must be seated, for example.

Interestingly the Police are saying it will be too tricky to check up on, which is odd because as far as I have observed, they haven’t been checking the 50 person limit that much. Not read of them turning up at any weddings to count the guests, for example. So I’m wondering what is going on here, and whether they really will start taking an interest in bigger gatherings?

It’s of interest to me as I’m a member of a very big church and our meetings have been online since March.

Biker
5 years ago

It’s nothing to do with the virus and everything to do with taking over our country and making us live under the jack boots of god knows who. Cunts like Handcock and Johnstone are deep state operatives and have sold us out. They have no right to do this to us so they have bypassed Parliament though that makes no difference since the Labour,Liberals and the vile nazi’s the SNP are all collaborating with this sinister group we don’t know who they are. They’ve removed the Queen an she’s been silenced and they’re coming for us. They need to be stopped

TJN
TJN
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

How are we going to stop them? They know who we are – easy, the ones without muzzles. And we’ll all be recorded on facial recognition by now. That’s why the police haven’t been doing anything, and we’ve been free to go out and about bare faced. Neat trick to nail us down. Pretty soon regular posters on this site will no longer be posting, anything anywhere.

During his time in ICU Johnson was replaced with a look-alike. Hancock is an android.

By the way, how’s it going with your lad’s school providing all those muzzles?

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I thought of that when mass masking became a thing, wearing them is inexpensive and simple, not wearing is easily observable.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I buy into that to a degree, on the basis that no single government and political system could be this incompetent, let alone a whole group of them. However, I think the really nasty nihilists and operatives are not the names you mention. They are merely the useful idiots. The ones who need to be watched include the lead WHO chappie, the editor of the Lancet, certain members of SAGE and ‘also ran’ SAGE. Closer to the seat of power, I would also question the affiliations of Ms Carrie and Mr Cummings. Boris is a careless, lazy overgrown teenager who is incapable of managing his own health, weight and personal circumstances let alone the country. Easy to be shoved around! Hancock is a jumped up pipsqueak, whose CV (read an interview in Tatler, I think from some time ago) suggests he was generally not particularly smart or competent. Williamson is so stupid, it beggars belief anyone thought he should be allowed out beyond selling fireplaces. But all these people are useful if there is an agenda, which I think there is – to destroy western capitalism.

Awkward Git
5 years ago

Would this have anything to do with what is going on?

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_un03.htm

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Show’s how long it’s been in the planning too…

mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

Yes there is a thread of belief that is common to those with the power here. They are Collectivists who believe society is better run and will be more prosperous with technocratic control.

I bet if you asked each one what is the best way for society to be run, they would not say Free Markets, Minimal Government intervention, Say Whatever the hell you like etc etc.

They believe in the government acting as a guiding hand.

Basically, they have never read the paragraphs in Wealth of Nations about the Invisible Hand and the conditions that cause it to appear.

WhyNow
WhyNow
5 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

A very good word. We sometimes use “socialist” to mean the same thing, but it has too many other connotations. Collectivist is about right.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Probably right but I think Johnson has been bypassed and is now a puppet Prime Minister.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

UK column imply that this is the case..

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

Great update today Toby especially with links to perceptive and interesting articles. The interview with Professor Thakur is especially worth reading and deserves to be widely shared. I am currently drafting a letter of complaint to Transport for London and would like your thoughts and input. Here’s what I’ve written so far: I am writing to complain about your posters on the Underground network which are not only an eyesore for their repetitive displays but also for their patronising content as if we are idiots who need to be told what to do and how to behave on public transport.   Most especially I take exception to two posters – one exhorting passengers to “Be Kind” alongside manipulative, misleading and threatening ones with regards to wearing masks/face coverings. I find both posters contradictory and hypocritical. Using public transport during this time is already stressful enough especially for people who are exempt from wearing a mask/face covering with the fear of being shamed or even verbally abused.   To paraphrase a popular saying, kindness begins at home so perhaps your PR team should have been aware of the contradiction and hypocrisy between the exhortations of kindness on one hand while threatening… Read more »

Thomas_E
Thomas_E
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I did 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan…If they think I would even blink for fear about being verbally abused or shamed for not wearing a mask on public transport, they are clearly deluded. Beats being shot and shelled for 3 days straight anytime..Never back down, you are in the right here not the sheeple.

Arnie
Arnie
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Ditto my friend. Never back down. Thanks for your service. Arnie.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Well said. Many thanks for this – its an inspiration.

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

I can’t imagine how scary that must be, being shot at and shelled.

Lili
Lili
5 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Excellent.