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The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdown
It really annoys me that lockdown sceptics are so often dismissed as Tory-voting, Brexit-supporting, libertarian-sympathising, white, middle-class, middle-aged Gammons. Okay, yes, that’s me, but there are plenty of other sceptics out there who don’t fall into any of these categories. And what’s really infuriating is the assumption that anyone on the Left should be a lockdown zealot. Why? As each day passes, more evidence comes to light that the lockdown has caused disproportionate harm to the most vulnerable people in our society â children, the elderly, cancer patients, the BAME community (not all of them are vulnerable, obviously), those suffering from mental illness… the list goes on. And what about the catastrophic effect the Global Economic Recession will have on the world’s poorest people in the developing world, with hundreds of millions now likely to die of starvation, TB, dysentery, etc.? Are left-wing people now just expected to sign up to the mantra of “safety first” and to hell with the consequences?
So it was heartening to get an email yesterday from a woman who started out by explaining she was a Guardian-reading, Remain-voting, Liberal Democrat who voted for Jeremy Corbyn at the last election, but is nonetheless a staunch lockdown sceptic. I’ve published it and it now sits below “The Left-Wing Case Against Lockdown” by Alexis Fitzgerald on the left-hand side. Here are a couple of the opening paragraphs:
Let me preface this by saying that Iâve never been one for conspiracy theories: There was a moon landing. The earth is round. My child is vaccinated. I know there is a virus, unrelated to 5G, whose effects can be severe with tragic consequences. However, I have been sceptical about the official risk assessments since the news footage from Wuhan emerged at the start of the year. And when a global reaction is so over-archingly bewildering that it has âsomeone like meâ thinking there is more to this than meets the eye, something is wrong. Iâve stopped short (just) of believing that China engineered the entire thing to destroy the US economy and take down Trump. I did read the article in The Asia Times that linked to last Octoberâs âEvent 201â and find it rather odd this âeventâ isnât talked about more in the media. If you watch the video it looks oddly as though some âthought leadersâ and TED talk types who had been simulating virus response strategies (perhaps with good enough reason), just couldnât wait to roll out their global virus-suppression protocol. When Covid came along (Coincidence? We may never know) governments went ahead on the advice of the WHO as if this were âthe big oneâ. After Wuhan locked down with a strategy that was fairly alarming even by Chinese standards, our not-so-fearless leaders followed suit around the globe as though it were a game of Simple Simon.
This is not the big one. I say that as a pretty risk-averse person. My young son calls me âover-safety womanâ. But as a cautious individual, I also question advice. Education is important in my family. My grandfather was a doctor and a teacher at the âIvy Leagueâ Cornell University medical school, my uncle is a doctor, and two of my cousins have PhDs. Iâm half-way through a health-related science PhD myself (I have a long way to go as a researcher, but am trying hard and learning lots). Iâm actually only saying that to keep you reading, as personal perspectives and anecdotal evidence sometimes get unfairly dismissed in the current data-obsessed climate. Youâll notice Iâve included no data or stats here. This crisis is about narratives as well as numbers. Iâm just a layman (letâs be gender fluid) like many others currently scratching their heads or shouting at the telly in exasperation. All it took was a calculator (the back of an envelope would have done) to divide the number of cases, hospitalisations, or deaths by the population of the UK to realise that the chances of getting or dying from Covid never came close to justifying a full âlockdownâ and all the attendant ramifications that you have documented so well on your site. The only positive digits in my calculation were on the right of the decimal point, preceded by a fair number of zeros. It doesnât take a PhD to work this out.
A luminously intelligent email from a switched-on liberal. Very much worth reading in full.
Cancer Stories
Yesterday, I reported Karol Sikora’s prediction that as many as 30,000 people could die unnecessarily from cancer over the next 10 years as a result of the NHS becoming a Covid-only service during the lockdown and asked for readers to send me their stories about cancer screenings, diagnoses and treatments being cancelled or postponed. Needless to say, I’ve been deluged. Here are a few of the best.
First, a story from an intensive care doctor, just in case you thought it was only civilians who aren’t getting adequate cancer care.
I am a doctor and have been working in ITU.
I am appalled at the current state of the profession, supine in the face of the lack of evidence in all the restrictions currently applied to accessing care. Unfortunately many colleagues appear to have abandoned critical thinking and become zealots.
I’m writing though about my experience as a patient. Earlier this year I had a standard mole mapping appointment. My back has a number of moles I cannot see and these are checked as part of a cancer surveillance programme. On this occasion a malignant melanoma was detected and removed with commendable speed and efficiency. I was as a result of having this lesion placed on enhanced surveillance so that my back should be checked every three months in case of any new melanoma occurring.
I have to state I’m not personally very worried as the lesion removed was slow growing despite its malignancy.
My follow up appointment was during lockdown. Instead of visiting the clinic and having my back inspected and photographed to check for changes, I had a telephone appointment. An audio call, not even video. I was asked if I had any symptoms. Well as I had no symptoms before the first lesion and symptoms are rare unless the lesion is well advanced I did not expect to have any. The point of surveillance is to catch lesions early before they spread. I did in fact have some itch (a symptomâŚ) But told the clinician it was probably the healing scar from the initial removal causing the itch. I cannot see my back and could not tell if any moles had changed shape, size or colour. Nevertheless despite this pretty inadequate conversation I was deemed fine – next follow up in October.
As I say I’m not personally very worried. But this appointment had literally no value and might as well never have taken place. I feel angry for others for whom this might well have been a missed chance to catch a melanoma early and prevent extended treatment and possibly mortality.
Please retain my anonymity. But this is an example of how even when services for cancer are nominally re-opened, due to the exclusion of patients from attending hospital and being properly examined, they are ineffectual.
Now a story from a patient.
I live in High Peak. I have chronic lymphocytic leukaemia and had a course of chemotherapy at the Royal Shrewsbury Hospital in 2015/16. I was due for my annual check-up at the haematology unit there at 11.30am. on 20th. March. A fortnight prior to that date, with travel and accommodation arrangements in place, I was told by phone that my appointment was postponed for six months.
A couple of weeks ago I was informed by letter that, after a review of cases, it was deemed appropriate to conduct my check-up by phone. This would take place on September 11th “between 9.00am and 1.30pm” and it would help if I could arrange to get my blood sampled and tested in time for then.
So a thorough, hands on (!), physical examination and face-to-face interview by and with the consultant preceded by an in-house blood test (result in c.30 minutes) at the hospital unit which has treated me since my diagnosis has been junked in favour of outsourcing the handling of my blood test to me and to my GP who, in turn, has to rely on the testing service at a hospital in Stockport; and a phone call. My next job will be to ensure the test results reach the RSH and are available for the remote ‘consultation’.
I consider myself very fortunate in not being at imminent risk of my life at this time (I think: if the disease develops as predicted in 2016 I shall not require chemo. to save my life again til 2024/5). I am fortunate in being in good shape, physically and mentally, so can do the necessary running around now required of me. I am also fortunate in being already ‘on the books’ so, even though the previously rigorous protocol for the annual check-up has been dismantled, I am still being monitored after a fashion.
Many of the emails I received were from people who are justifiably angry. Here’s one:
My wife was scheduled for a cancer test, being in a high risk category â family, age and history â three weeks ago. She was understandably becoming increasingly worried as the day approached but was telephoned the day before and told that the appointment has been postponed.
FOR A YEAR.
To say that I am angry would be like calling the Universe big. The whole coronavirus fiasco has cost me my business, the career of my daughter and pretty much everything I have spent my entire life working for, but this is too much. Now these odious selfish⌠(what? I have no words to describe my feelings toward the perpetrators â cowards, tyrants, murderers?) are prepared to sacrifice my wife (40 years an NHS ITU nurse) on the altar of their imbecility. It is too much, it is intolerable. Can anyone give me a hint as to why? Cui Bono?
I best close before my anger, which I feel rising, takes over.
And many of the emails were very sad, like this one:
This is one of the many heart-breaking stories you will no doubt receive.
A very dear friend of ours, who notwithstanding his age (83) was very fit, walking his dog in hilly terrain at least two hours a day, doing all his own shopping, cooking and gardening, started to have digestive problems around February.
He went to see his GP, who took a blood test, said he was anaemic and prescribed iron tablets, which could (said the GP) lead to some minor digestive problems. I helped our friend to devise small changes in diet to increase his natural iron intake.
Things went from unpleasant, to bad, to worse. In March he tried to see the GP again, but by then the surgery didnât allow patients in, only telephone consultations.
Other medication was tried, the iron tablets remained mandatory, nothing helped!
Finally, last month, our friend turned as yellow as a lemon. The GP relented, saw him, and referred him to the hospital for tests.
The next week he was admitted to hospital a day after my husband took him there for a Covid-test administered while he sat in our car at the entrance of the hospital.
When he woke up from the anaesthesia administered âfor a biopsyâ he found out that a duodenal stent had been placed. No explanation of the necessity for this was given, âit was necessaryâ⌠He discharged himself next day.
Two days ago he received a letter stating that he had terminal pancreatic cancer, that the GP would telephone to discuss further treatments etc.
He now does not wish to see or hear from another doctor ever again. Yesterday, he has had a very pleasant visit from one of the community nurses who outlined how their service will look after him, and has made his peace with God.Although he asked us to research âon that internet thingâ how long he might still live (according to Pancreatic Cancer UK and Cancer Research UK that is three to six months), having informed him about this, he is now dying before our eyes, and will certainly not make it that long.
An oncologist friend of ours in another town had already warned us 2 months ago about the âtsunamiâ of cancer cases that would hit the NHS as soon as diagnosis and treatment was âallowedâ againâŚ
Our friend will now just be another meaningless number in the NHS statistics. I am disgusted, angry, and terribly sad!
Here’s another sad tale, this time about a reader’s father.
My Father was a 79 year-old retired merchant navy officer who had enjoyed a life of good health until being diagnosed with bowel cancer early in 2019. He underwent the major surgery associated with the condition but responded well to the treatment, a testament to his robust constitution.
Unfortunately in the autumn of 2019 they identified secondary cancers which were only able to be controlled with chemotherapy. However, he responded to the chemotherapy remarkably well, side effects were negligible and the count of cancer cells in his blood dropped to a little above ânormalâ. He was optimistic and we believed there could be at least a couple of decent enjoyable years left for him. He was benefiting from a costly antibody treatment which was intended to prolong life and I was a little surprised that the NHS were prepared to make such an investment in someone of his age, but we were of course delighted and grateful.
In March his chemotherapy was put on hold, to reduce the âriskâ of COVID-19. He was already nervous about infection from the normal flu season so there was little possibility of him being exposed to the virus, except in the NHS!
The lockdown meant he was forbidden from seeing his children or grandchildren, living hundreds of miles away. And his life like everyone elseâs was closed down.
In April there was a rapid deterioration in his health, at this stage the symptoms I believed were more due to being confined to the house and a lack of normal exercise. He was hospitalised, with no visitors or even social contact from the nursing staff.
A scan revealed the cancer had spread aggressively and the cell count had risen sharply. It is a fair assumption that three sessions of chemotherapy being denied was the main reason for this.
After a rapid decline my father died in June. Whilst we were lucky to get home home for his final days so he did not die alone, he was largely abandoned by the NHS he paid for over more than 60 years as a taxpayer. He was proud to point out he had paid his taxes every week since 1955.
A GP told him that he would no longer be treated and was only to receive palliative care over Facetime. I cannot believe the religious adulation being heaped on NHS âheroesâ when all I have seen evidence of is cowardice.
In summary I believe the arbitrary removal of cancer services dramatically shortened my fatherâs life. However he was well past his âthree score years and tenâ and seriously ill so we accept he had to go sooner rather than later. However I know of at least one much younger victim of the cancer scandal.
I have heard countless tales from friends working in the NHS about hospitals being essentially shut and cancer services being withdrawn. I firmly believe my fatherâs experience will be the tip of a large iceberg, one containing much younger lives which have been unnecessarily lost.
The awful thing is, this crisis in cancer care is far from over. The patient backlog is now greater than it’s ever been and this winter there’s a strong possibility the NHS will return to being a Covid-only service.
There will be a reckoning…
Boris: Schools Must Re-Open Next Month
The Prime Minister is at last doing something right, urging schools to re-open in full next month. “No ifs, not buts,” the Telegraph quotes him as saying.
According to a Whitehall source, Downing Street has made clear there can be âno ifs, no butsâ in delivering on the national priority. âSchools not coming back is not an option,â they added. âFailure is not an option.â
Senior Conservative MPs have called for Mr Johnson to take the lead on schools and sideline Mr Williamson, amid fears that widespread anger over this weekâs exams about-turn has left him incapable of shaping public opinion positively.
Their concerns have been echoed by several Cabinet ministers, with one saying: âWeâve got to get schools back. Thatâs the test for him.â
Throughout the pandemic, the prolonged closure of schools has been among the greatest concerns weighing on the minds of Mr Johnson and his most senior aides and ministers.
Meanwhile, all 12 of Britain’s Chief Medical Officers have told parents there is an “exceptionally small risk” of their children succumbing to COVID-19 if they return to school. The Mail has more.
The highly unusual ‘consensus statement’ from the country’s most senior experts removes the final hurdle to the resumption of full-time teaching in September â to the relief of parents who have been forced to home-school the majority of children since March.
It continues:
All 12 Chief and Deputy Chief Medical Officers agree that “very few, if any, teenagers will come to long-term harm from COVID-19 due solely to attending school”.
And they say that small risk has to be offset against “a certainty of long-term harm to many children from not attending school”.
The experts also conclude that “teachers are not at increased risk of dying from COVID-19” compared to other workers, and say that the evidence from other countries is that reopening schools is not linked to a surge in cases.
When it comes to the evidence from other countries, English parents don’t have to look very far. Schools have re-opened in full in Scotland and there has been no resurgence in cases north of the border.
It’s not all good news, though. Chris Whitty, England’s Chief Medical Officer, gave an interview to BBC Breakfast yesterday in which he said that opening schools would likely cause a rise in infections and to compensate the Government may have to increase restrictions elsewhere.
A Doctor Writes
A doctor has emailed me to draw my attention to a recent editorial in the BMJ.
I am a practising General Practitioner. I wholeheartedly support your efforts to draw attention to the actual facts surrounding the current SARS CoV-2 pandemic.
I follow your Lockdown Sceptics blog almost daily!
I would like to draw your attention to the editorial in this week’s BMJ which expounds the benefits and virtues of T-Cell immunity which you have pointed out for months .
I read the first paper on this subject shortly after I had recovered from COVID-19 myself. This was from a group in Tubingen in Germany back in April or May. There have been multiple papers confirming these findings since as you know.
It has taken the medical establishment three months to even start discussing this evidence!
Meanwhile, a Professor of Epidemiology at Harvard says parts of New York and London have already achieved herd immunity. According to the Telegraph:
âItâs reasonable to think that some local areas have a substantial amount of immunity. I think there are parts of New York and London which are there,â said Professor Bill Hanage, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. âItâs really noticeable in certain pockets, but it varies city block to block and we have to be careful when interpreting what it means.â
Experts point to new modelling which has used data on the spread of Covid-19 to suggest herd immunity – previously estimated to be upwards of 70 per cent – could be as low as 50 per cent, or even 43 per cent, as one study found.
Make that 19%. A new German study found that 81% of pre-Covid blood donors had T-cell cross immunity to SARS-CoV-2. From the abstract:
SARS-CoV-2-specific T-cell epitopes enabled detection of post-infectious T-cell immunity, even in seronegative convalescents. Cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes revealed preexisting T-cell responses in 81% of unexposed individuals, and validation of similarity to common cold human coronaviruses provided a functional basis for postulated heterologous immunity in SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Worth reading the study in full if the technical language doesn’t put you off.
Postcard From Bogota
A reader has sent me a “Postcard From Bogota“, which I’ve published today. Here’s the opening paragraph:
For the first time in my life I fled from the Police. Running at 7am in my local park all by myself and with a mask over my face, a motorcycle with two policemen approaching on the narrow trail. I saw them early enough and was able to sprint away from the path and hide until they were out of sight. Exercising outdoors is again forbidden, and violation costs a hefty fine (equivalent to $300). My neighbourhood Chapinero was forced into strict lockdown again for two weeks on August 16th. All shops and businesses had to close again (except those which sell food or medicine) and citizens are only allowed outside for emergencies or to buy these products. Colombians have been in lockdown since March 20th and compete with other Latin American countries for the longest lockdown in the world award.
Life in Bogota sounds significantly worse than in England â even Oldham! I was particularly horrified to read that children aren’t expected to return to school until 2021, with predictably catastrophic consequences for the least well off.
Worth reading in full.
Round-Up
- ‘Hysteria is the most dangerous coronavirus symptom‘ â Excellent article by Asa Bennett
- ‘Why are the Conservatives governing like socialists?‘ â Great piece by Leo McKinstry in the Telegraph
- ‘Newsnightâs Kirsty Wark on cancel culture, equality and Paxman‘ â Good interview with Kirsty Wark by Decca Aitkenhead in the Sunday Times
- ‘Will COVID-19 cause TV shows to run out of episodes?‘ â The Sunday Times asks: Are we about to run out of telly?
- ‘Were holiday-wrecking quarantines worth it? Even the Government haven’t a clue!‘ â Peter Hitchens asked the DHSC how many holiday makers returning from Spain after it was ‘red listed’ have tested positive for the virus. Answer came there none
- ‘German Politicians and MSM Misinterpret Data â Latest Increase in Positive Cases is an Artefact!‘ â YouTube video making the case against a second wave in Germany. More cases is just an artefact of more testing
- Anti-lockdown protest in Ireland â Impressive turnout yesterday, judging from this Facebook video
- ‘Kenya wildlife conservancies need rescue from coronavirus impact‘ â The collapse of tourism in Africa is bad news for Kenya’s wildlife conservancies
- ‘New Zealand’s lust for lockdown is the latest example of vapid political virtue-signalling‘ â Good column by Madeline Grant in the Telegraph
- Podcast of Any Questions â For those who want to listen to me banging the drum for the old normal on Friday while on their morning constitutional, you can download a podcast of Any Questions here
- ‘Coronavirus “getting less angry” and we shouldn’t fear second wave, claims doctor‘ â Unusually sceptical piece in the bedwetting Mirror
- ‘Word of the Week: the New Normal‘ â Excellent piece in Spectator Life by Andy Shaw
- ‘Coronavirus pandemic halts life-saving UK cancer and heart disease research‘ â The Observer reveals that more than 1,500 clinical trials of new drugs and treatments for cancers, heart disease and other serious illnesses have been permanently closed down in Britain, as the entire medical-industrial complex becomes obsessed with Covid at the expense of everything else
- ‘Isle of Man resident jailed for visiting pubs during quarantine‘ â A Manx resident has been jailed for six weeks for visiting two pubs when he should have been self-isolating
- ‘Australians have been filled with fear and alarmism‘ â Latest jeremiad from our favour broadcaster, Sky News Australia’s Alan Jones
- ‘Covid will be present forever, warns SAGE scientist‘ â Does this mean we can dismiss Layla Moran’s ‘zero-Covid’ strategy as utter nonsense?
- ‘Keep Britain Free Survey‘ â Please complete this anonymous survey for Keep Britain Free, Simon Dolan’s group
- ‘Safety First‘ â Good piece by the Venerable Dr Edward Dowler, Archdeacon of Hastings, about the Church of England’s failure to rise to the occasion
- ‘Europeâs Virus Surge Is Looking Less Deadly Than Initial Wave‘ â Bloomberg says what we said on Lockdown Sceptics a few days ago â the so-called ‘second wave’ is much less deadly than the first
- ‘Get on with your lives! Professor says as coronavirus “not as deadly as first thought”‘ â It’s our old friend Prof Carl Heneghan again. Can he please be made the Chief Medical Officer?
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Four today: “Scared Of You” by Nelly Furtado, “Scared of Everything” by Chris Leggett, “We Like to be Frightened” by Vanik and “Bedwetters of the World Unite” by Frankie China.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called âLove in a Covid Climateâ that has attracted a bit of attention. Weâve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so weâve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened â or most of them, anyway â weâre focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all (and some of them are at risk of having to close again). Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet â particularly if theyâre not insisting on face masks! If theyâve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Donât worry if your entries donât show up immediately â we need to approve them once youâve entered the data.
âMask Exemptâ Lanyards
Iâve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a âMask Exemptâ lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 3rd to Oct 13th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official âMask Exemptâ notice to put on your phone here. You can get a âHidden Disabilityâ tag from ebay here and an âexemptâ card with lanyard for just ÂŁ3.99 from Etsy here.
Donât forget to sign the petition on the UK Governmentâs petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 29,500).
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And hereâs a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Meanwhile, Joan Collins has written a diary for the Spectator in which she recounts her fight with an officious French police officer.
On a shopping trip to Ikea I wore a new plastic face visor, which I had seen being worn by London hairdressers. As itâs less stifling than a âmuzzleâ mask, I could breathe more easily. However, an officious gendarme became deeply offended by it, and while I was mulling over the benefits of Ikeaâs gravadlax vs its smoked salmon, he pounced. Gesticulating in Gallic fashion, he yelled at me to put on a proper mask, because visors arenât legal. Chastised, I slunk away, muttering an Anglo-Saxon expletive under my breath, which, as he glared at me, I feared he might have understood.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And FinallyâŚ
I linked to Yoram Hazony’s piece in Quillette last week in which he tried to get to grips with why so many seemingly robust liberal institutions, like the New York Times, have proved vulnerable to capture by hard Left Neo-Marxists. I edited that piece and a couple of days ago I spoke to Hazony for the Quillette Podcast. You can listed to that conversation here.
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Fizzies
Hope you are going to drink it rather than spray it all over the place like F1 drivers!
Thereâs another sport ruined by giving credence to the crash test dummies witterings about unfairness
And Iâm still fizzing with anger at those evil or wicked, definitely inept f*cktrombones who have left us in penury with their knee jerk doubling down acts of gross stupitidy
Why did Fauci pay the Wuhan lab to do research?
Because it had been effectively banned in the USA:
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/us-halts-funding-new-risky-virus-studies-calls-voluntary-moratorium
Well well well.
Here’s the initial CDC report that lead eventually to the risky research being halted:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0711-lab-safety.html
They kept screwing up safety precautions and could not keep containment.
It a cheap comment to make considering the depth of your finding but in light of cottin/polyester coverings this hopped out –
“Thus, the potentially infectious samples were moved and used for experimentation by researchers in these lower biosafety level laboratories, who believing the samples were inactivated, were not wearing adequate personal protective equipment while handling the material.”
For all their tinkering with this material the really appears to be little gain for the risk. To the average tax paying joe.
What was Fauci’s motivation for continuing his funding of investigations after US CDC closure. Why did he continue in Wuhan, what was his end goal? It would appear to have been exceptional to have moved camp after being closed down to unacceptable risks.
Thanks for posting A Git.
Then what happened? All the below is/was on the internet as I read it, research did myself at the time but it’s slowly disappearing. Enough clues for individuals to do their own research. 2017 moratorium lifted in the USA. 2017-2019: Chinese “scientists” arrested trying to sneak vials of the coronavirus out of Canada to Wuhan. Plane listed as having started in the US and with destination Wuhan with coroanvirus samples on board put on Turkish whistleblowers website Fort Derrick Maryland shut down (military cease and desist orders) for security reasons or drain problems after refurbishment – take you pick on reason Ditto for the UK biolab at Porton Down Gates/Soros invest in WuXi pharmaceuticals in China WEF event 201 banker’s meeting in jackson Hole, Wyoming with carney on about resetting the financial system Dec 2019 – Harvard professor involved in coronavirus research arrested by FBI, Justice Dept release papers. He had lied about links monetary and financial to Wuhan lab. Researchers really Chinese military scientists not civilian students. Paid lots of money by Wuhan lab as advisor. Then you have the military games in Wuhan just before the first cases became known, the US military did not send athletes a… Read more Âť
The Chinese have been operating a bio-spy ring. Very murky stuff. Nor sure it’s been so CV related as you imply.
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This is from Dominic Cummingsâ blog last year:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200305191733/https://dominiccummings.com/2019/03/04/the-most-secure-bio-labs-routinely-make-errors-that-could-cause-a-global-pandemic-are-about-to-re-start-experiments-on-pathogens-engineered-to-make-them-mammalian-airborne-transmissible/
I’ve maintained all along that Wuhan flu was a misnomer because it originated in a US lab.
Ah, the irony of some people, Trump included, calling this “the Chinese virus.”
Do you think Fauci would have told him? Doubtful.
He is calling it that without Fauci telling him anything.
Don’t forget the BBC. And most of the the US MSM….
https://twitter.com/apinkrose/status/1240290866410946565
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51168333
So Fauci could have caused the outbreak…that would be well, if not exactly amusing, a nicely hubristic result.
The story is not that new.
There is an interview with Robert Kennedy jr. at Mercola, which delved into this a while ago.
Add to it his personal financial conflicts of interest and that 2 Nobel Prize winners and one nominee have now come to the conclusion, that the virus must be man-made, and that particular fish smells very rotten indeed.
And so does China’s treatment of it.
Great stuff Awkward, more please. I’m soaking this stuff up & disseminating it like a patient shedding dead virus particles!
Sack Whitty and Vallance and appoint Professor Heneghan as chief advisor. Problem solved.
With Sunetra Gupta and Michael Levitt as principle advisors.
And put Ferguson into permanent lockdown.
Tower of London
Plenty ought to be sent there. So many that we’re going to need a bigger tower.
It’s pretty big. And social distancing would be ‘optional’,
The ravens need the company.
‘Never more’.
Need their guts for dinner.
Agree. We should make full use of it, complete with the execution facilities on Tower Hill.
End of a rope
Hanging’s too kind. I think they should suffer for a L-O-N-G time!
I’d advocate making them re-enact Sisyphus for the rest of their lives.
I’d go with Prometheus.
I say we make them live the Green Utopia/Extinction Rebellion Good Life for a couple of years.
Social distancing: two metres of rope from the top of a lamppost.
By the time you add their height that might reach the ground.
Plus Drs John Lee and Malcolm Kendrick
Don’t forget them.
Add to that Hancock, Harding
You’ve got to get rid of Prof. John Edwards as well.
My personal five interesting and unexpected indirect fallouts from Covid: 1. So many people I enjoyed watching and reading, I now canât bear watching. And vice versa. For example, I now canât bear the likes of Piers Morgan, when previously, I found him quite refreshing albeit annoying. As well as the usual suspects, I now weirdly find myself reading the Twitter accounts of people like Denise Welch, Matt Le Tissier, and even taken an interest in Boris Johnsonâs sister. How the hell did that happen in just 8 months?! (As an aside, I do find it ironically amusing that Piers is regularly pimping his new upcoming book called âwake upâ when this is exactly what he needs to do!) I even found Lee Hurst had joined the party on Twitter. I had completely forgotten about him since They Think Itâs All Over ended!!! 2. We have always been made to feel extremely guilty that our daughter missing school for a holiday would have a detrimental effect on her education. How can we ever believe this rubbish again?! 3. The Covid situation has really brought home the message that friends come and go, and family is for life. Similarly to Brexit,… Read more Âť
PM Johnson’s government no longer qualifies as representing the Leave voters and they are behaving just like the EU Parliament.
Well said. That is exactly what is happening. Psychologically Johnson has never left the EU.
He closed the border and ended free movement. That is what leaving the EU means.
On point 4, you trust the EU to govern us then??? Once we are out our politicians will be forced to learn, the EUrinal will continue to stink.
Ha ha, I was thinking this a few weeks ago – I’m full on brexiteer but…
The last few months being governed by the incumbent shower of shite – are we capable of looking after our selves?
The past few months have shown that we need a good clearout of the Establishment, and we need that whether you are a Leaver or a Remainer; Left, Right or Centre; libertarian or big-statist. We’re capable of looking after ourselves, we just have the wrong people in those jobs at the moment.
That’s the thing – Brexit isn’t an end in itself, it’s a step on the road to proper self-government. Most of our current political establishment have made their careers in an era where they don’t have to be accountable, merely electable, with too much decision-making passed to Brussels or unelected quangoes. As it becomes harder to pass the buck, politics will be reshaped, but it will take time.
Absolutely, Andrew. It’s a root and branch rebuild that’s required.
And the existing lot are terrified of that!!
True. The people who get elected are pretty but pointless.
Drain the swamp!
I would find another slogan. That one hasn’t worked well for America. The American swamp is deeper and smellier than ever.
maybe we should defect to the SDP- any thoughts?
It might be worth lending them your vote for a bit. If we could get a change of government from the current Tory/Labour/Lib Dem parties (at local or national level) it might force the others to re-evaluate – and it would flush out a few of the current intake. All we have to do then is refuse to vote for any legacy candidate who makes a reappearance in our constituency – thus ensuring we get a new generation of politicians who know the electorate is watching.
end career politicians. One term only
Always good to see accurate descriptions being employed, Major. đ
Well, you have a greater chance of looking after yourselves outside the EU. You can vote the bastards out.
Love Lee Hurst. His comedy club at the Fym Fyg in Bethnal Green was always great. Dirty, cheap and amazing value. He was regularly the funniest guy on stage.
Lot of respect for him. Unfortunately I do wonder if his career is being affected by having the ‘wrong’ opinions on many things..
You point to the coming effects of divide and rule. I for one am worried.
Meanwhile, we’ll press on, resisting and educating to the best of our ability.
“3. The Covid situation has really brought home the message that friends come and go, and family is for life. Similarly to Brexit, if friends disagree with you, it is amazing how fickle and distant they can become if your views are not shared.”
Problem is that this also goes for family.
There are some real mask militants in my family. They are totally immune to any other arguments. Real bed-wetters. I have a feeling that I will be edited out for scoffing. Except: I don’t see them anyhow because no one sees anyone anymore. You can approach the frontn door, but please don’t use the loo! Pretty soon we will have to install privies so that guests don’t have to enter the house . . .
Ah, like the worker’s cottage I used to live in in the High Peak. Lots of our houses had little ex-privies out back that had been converted to garden sheds.
My friends wife who was âshieldingâ was so scared when the 1 household meetup thing happened she actually visited her friends house with a bucket to wee in garage rather than use her friends loo. Thatâs when I realised that this government have succeeded in scaring the life out of normal folk.
Well, I have to do that in my allotment shed these days because our site toilet has been shut. Getting used to it, although it is challenging when you’re female.
It’s good for your compost heap though ! Really speeds things along.
I can’t imagine that woman was ever what a sane community would call normal.
The EU had plans for vaccine passports two years ago
The globalists control the EU and UK govts.
Easier to fight back if we only have one corrupt layer above us instead of two
I admit it, I used to enjoy watching Piers Morgan – he was always witty and amusing, someone I could enjoy at a distance. But he feels out of time now, the gravity of this moment just doesn’t suit him and I wonder whether unconsciously he knows it and is acting out? These times call for people with more substance – sound bites just don’t cut it any more.
“I find myself now being a converted Remainer”
Having been ordered around by this government, whom you can remove, you now want to be ordered around by centralised technocrats you can’t remove.
Sorry I can’t get my head around that.
Very interesting points.
I also voted for Brexit, but this covid farce and the reactionary position taken by so many on the right (of which thought I belonged prior to this situation), has made me question some of things that I perhaps took for granted. I still find a lot of the remainer arguments and attitudes deeply patronising, but I have absolutely zero faith in this prime minister or government to deliver anything at all at this point. If asked to vote again on the issue, I would probably vote against the government position.
I honestly never thought I would agree with the left on anything. And then this covid situation happened….
Isabel: do you ever look at WHOâs daily summaries of the pandemic? It is raging in many nations. Which means we are all at risk. This pandemic is not over. I know you know this.
Richard Horton Editor Lancet
ďťżIndeed. And by excluding all but deaths with first positive test within 28 days this substantially underestimates total, with many more dying within 60 days. And letâs not forget those who survive with multi organ damage
Martin McKee Prof European Public Health
The problem is that these two have very big influence in the UK and in the medical establishment .With such fear mongering bad news if the gov. listen to them
Martin McKee historically was also involved in the push for smoking bans.
I was thinking along those lines myself. How many in our government actually understand any of the science? The relevance of the ct threshold and false positive rate etc etc.
I doubt they sit around researching it like a lot of people on here do. I assume all they know is what the likes of MSM, SAGE and the WHO tell them, and they seem to consist of terminal bedwetters. As much as everyone is blaming Boris and Hancock, I can’t help but wonder how much they know? I can’t think of any other reason why such damage is being inflicted.
Hopefully, as we’ve seen more sceptical articles coming through MSM and mass protests, they’ll start to see what’s been right under their noses.
they only understand their fat payoffs
Ignorance is not an excuse. How many of us read this site in our spare time? It consumes us because it is important. Boris is constantly skiving because it isn’t important to him.
Planned food shortage ahead? This was already flagged up a couple of days ago: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/21/uk-cheap-food-could-fuel-covid-19-spread-says-who-envoy And here’s one from the DT: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/22/covid-19-can-survive-frozen-meat-fish-three-weeks-study-finds/?fbclid=IwAR1oLDiO4-qi7wrgjzYdXiDCSfglflDyYAyC5eDrZy76V2bKLEuqL4oES08 Covid-19 can survive on frozen meat and fish for up to three weeks Scientists say this could explain outbreaks in countries that have not had cases for long periods Here’s what a friend posted on her Fb page: From a scientist…. Iâve been thinking about all these food factory clusters and closures. Is it by sheer coincidence the folk producing our food are more likely to test positive than say workers in arms factories and pharma plants? Or are the beer bug police specifically targeting the food industry? And if the lurgy can survive for weeks on frozen meat and fish does that apply to tofu, veggies, and Billâs burgers too? Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist about the latest instalment of fear in the press please remember this. Trillions of vy rus es fall from the sky every day and there is no way to avoid them. They are swept up from the planetâs surface into the troposphere and can travel thousands of miles before falling back down to earth. Scientists already know this but clearly… Read more Âť
It is very plausible that the virus survives in frozen food.Hep A,another RNA virus,survives and there has been outbreaks of Hep A from frozen berries
That wasn’t the point I was trying to make.
Any form of raw food is risky, especially if your digestive system isn’t sufficiently robust to deal with pathogens.
This is why most of us cook our meat and fish and why our prepacked salad is washed in chlorinated water. Also why the US has to bleach its chicken but fortunately our standards are sufficiently high and that doesn’t apply here – yet.
The point is about targeting food processing plants as hotbeds of positive cases. They’ve already closed down an M&S sandwich factory. Was anyone actually ill?
I do worry that food shortages could be on the cards for winter. There’s already official talks of a second lockdown, despite de Piffle’s protests.
That was discussed in this Daily Mail article today: Cabinet Office has drawn up emergency plans to prepare for UK worst case scenario if second wave of Covid coincides with No Deal Brexit in December, leaked document reveals
The article discussed the possibility of having the army in to deal with “civil disorder” caused by food shortages and price hikes as the no-deal Brexit cuts off 30% of our food supplies from the continent.
Also (plans for) another virus outbreak in December. “As a result, social distancing measures and masks will have to continue until 2021.”
They certainly aren’t wasting this crisis.
The point I wanted to make was that C-19 could survive on frozen food and be imported to i.e. NZ.Clearly warming kills the virus but handling frozen food and eating raw frozen food might rarely transmit.The Chinese detected C-19 on imported Ecuadorian shrimps (best irony) but probably not enough to directly transmit. Just shows impossible to stop this virus all over the world.
its deliberate. they are doing the same in the USA and Germany.
This is about population reduction
They could have painted out if you cook your food the virus gets dried, no problem. Wash salads cook food, wash hands.
I meant to say they should have pointed out if you cook your food the virus gets fried. Autocorrect fail.
Easily solved in the examples of meat, fish and most veg: cook it, because heat kills virae.
This was mentioned in “yesterday’s” comments but it has got me so seething that, despite being a reader for the past few weeks, I finally felt compelled to join up and comment.
Has this been staged by the BBC. When and where was it taken?
This has been going on for weeks now. At some point they have put together a library of photos of masked people in about every situation you could think of ready to be attached to an appropriate story.
Go to https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/virus-masks?phrase=virus%20masks&sort=best
Go to shutterstock.com and search for “mask children”. Literally hundreds of photos and drawings of kids in masks.
You’ll see hundreds of stock photos of people in masks on all the major stock photo sites. Photographers are good at figuring out the latest trend and capitalising on it.
Shame on them!
But couldn’t it be seen as a picture showing the obscenity of masking and socially-distancing children?
Well, it is also that. But it would be generous in the extreme to assume that was their intention in using it.
and all vox pops on tv show masked people in situations where the regulations mean masks are not required. It wouldnt surprise me if they deliberately ignore 10 unmasked people walking past and then pounce on the 11th masked person .
I’ve noticed that in press photos. Label says “Shoppers wearing masks on X high st. When you look at the pic, one person, centre shot, will be masked and everyone else is acting normally.
The 11th person is the one more likely to give the BBC-acceptable answer. So yes.
It is time we all set about putting pressure on the ‘government’ to end this farce.
Millions of people in the global south use HCQ as an anti-malarial and the incidence of Covid-19 is negligible. In many countries nobody has died from the disease.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2P4-cK_K8&feature=youtu.be
HCQ is safe, cheap and effective and can be used as a prophylactic.
What are we waiting for?
Enough pitchforks ?
Bill Gates.
A retrial of HCQ.
HCQ is being used sucessfully in small doses around the world. African countries, India and so on. Western HCQ trials of effectiveness against Covid19 appear to have been arranged to fail. Designed from the outset to essentialy cause toxic poisoning through administering unsafe amounts to subjects. The effects of these ultra high toxic doses were studied. Trials cut short because of the harm and deaths attributed. HCQ is over the counter in many, many countries. It has been in common use for 65 years.
Low amounts are proving to be superbly effective.
I believe there is a court case in Brazil which is fighting back against the flawed high doseage trials.
I’ve taken it for years. Will continue to do so.
It’s is said to be hard to get hold of in US now. Pharmacists not honouring prescriptions – on a rare occasion a doctor has prescribed it.
UK I have no idea what the status is – health service shut down as written about so sadly above.
If it’s over-the-counter in many countries, some enterprising dudes will take orders on the interweb and post you some. đ
Essential what came up in the 9 doctors for truth discussion. Market forces supply and demand. People need to be asking for it.
At a premium. See previous post.
Fair enough though – envelopes, postage, profit to live on. It’s not their fault our governments have gone ga-ga.
This is the Brazilian letter in English with all signatories
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZOJ57fM0RTaHD1t_9w2iua7lUJhOgWT/view
I have written to Toby in this vein with a few suggestions. I hope he thinks it is worth while.
I believe HCQ could be the key if we can get the story out to enough people.
There isn’t much time. Rally on Saturday. Gov’t 2-year extension Sept.
I was checking it out yesterday. Amazon has none listed.
One site, with medical info, said it cost just over ÂŁ6 for 20 tabs but there was no facility to purchase.
A couple of other sites were offering it for sale in the UK but wanted at least ÂŁ30 for 20 tabs!!
http://tapnewswire.com/2020/08/special-announcement-from-the-free-people-alliance/
So now Chris Whitty’s view is that missing school poses more risk to children than Covid, which is what we’ve said all along…The past was alterable. The past never had been altered..
Newspeak. 1984. Big Brother.
An article making the case against UBI. https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/july-august-2020/money-for-nothing-3/ I don’t think it is very convincing, because it analyses UBI against the ‘old normal’. Reluctantly, I am forced to accept that we are heading towards a ‘new normal’. Furloughing is already a radical departure from the old ways of doing things, and in the coming months and years the state is going to have to take the reins in many vital aspects of our lives that used to be serviced by the businesses vapourised by government policy. I envisage a society that exists mainly in its homes. A garden will be much more important than it used to be, but the government will mandate mask wearing there, too. A system of rewards will be set up for people who inform on their neighbours, and there will be constant monitoring with drones – enthusiastically welcomed by most responsible citizens. People will be idle much of the time, living a virtual existence through the internet and TV. Their only physical needs will be food, IT products, physical exercise machines, the upkeep of their houses, and sanitary products (hand sanitiser, gloves, masks, etc.). New clothes will be largely unnecessary – most people preferring to… Read more Âť
If I’m unfortunate enough to still be alive I’ll definitely top myself but hope to take a government minister or advisor with me.
Buck up Bella – several of the fuckers. đ
Except UBI will have to be very low to be sustainable. The scenario isn’t economically sustainable, so is bound to fail. Hope that cheered you up.
And legalised dope smoking!
Before I start this, let me just say for the record: I am a free-market capitalist (in case I havenât made that obvious here before). I do think that the state has a practical duty (though not necessarily a moral duty) to make provisions for those who canât or wonât look after themselves, though I also believe that people have a responsibility to make their own way, as far as possible without state intervention. I also believe that the state is just about the least efficient possible organisation to handle anything and in an ideal world should limit itself to the things that simply canât be run through other means (er… defence. Maybe policing). But I realise that last point is an argument that was lost more than a century ago. UBI works on paper – the key being âuniversalâ – and itâs actually a fiscally conservative mechanism. If youâre going to have to provide funding for people who canât/wonât work anyway (and letâs face it, thatâs inevitable) then it makes sense to provide an amount of money sufficient to live on – otherwise, thereâs little or no point. If you then give the same amount of money to everyone,… Read more Âť
Good summary. I come from a similar political base as you, albeit probably rather more nationalist and traditionalist. In the past when I was more of an idealist my ideals tended to anarcho-capitalism, which is pretty much pure free market capitalism. The points you make in support of it are sound, though it will not stop many people resenting those ricer than they are.
The main problems with it are first that it relies on government administration and therefore delivery will be both corrupt and incompetent. Second, it means that more and more people will be dependent on direct state income, and it must be pretty clear now even to those who might have been naive on this point a few years ago that there is no prospect of that power not being used by the government for direct coercion.
However, it is argued, and with some force, that the logic of accelerating technological advancement makes something of the sort inevitable, as more and more people are simply unable to compete with automation (including AI, for the non-manual workers).
It is argued that the spinning Jenny and the steam loom will assign everyone to the workhouse and that the working folk will face an ever-worsening future, while the evil capitalists become ever wealthier.
We are desperately in need of genuine innovation to increase productivity, assuming you believe that economic growth contributes to the increasing welfare of the population. The âdigital revolutionâ has contributed nothing beyond an expectation that more expensive people should be able to do things for themselves with apps, so less expensive people can be laid off. Iâm exactly the right age that email was a business novelty as I came into the workforce, but itâs still clear that what itâs actually achieved is to increase the opportunity for âdoing stuffâ without much increasing the opportunity to get things done.
Automation and AI may be very disruptive in the short term, but Iâm fairly sure of two things: 1) history tells us that human beings adapt to disruption and have a determination to go out and find themselves useful things to do, so they can feed their families; and 2) this technology is nowhere near as advanced as people would like you to believe it is.
1 & 2 are both pretty reasonable points, but that doesn’t mean that what was true about past technological advances will necessarily be true about future ones. Though experience certainly would tend to put the Luddite on the back foot.
I think it’s possible to make the case that past technological advances have gone some way towards making a proportion of the population who were formerly perfectly employable as manual labour, much less in demand, and that future tech advances are likely to increase the proportion to whom that apples.
Which is not to say that it would be advisable or feasible to stand athwart the advance of technology, yelling Stop. Merely that it’s worth considering the likely consequences. One of which might well be an increase in the desire for and feasibility of ubi, which past tech advances have arguably made possible. If nothing else, you could not have employed enough clerks and administrators to effectively implement and police a ubi scheme with C19th technology in a state rapidly approaching a population of 70 million plus.
Both the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution led to huge numbers of workless and disaffected in the short term. For a few decades after each got into the swing, you might have thought that you were seeing the destitution of the nation, but meanwhile economic output continued to increase and new jobs were created.
Itâs not at all obvious today where the growth opportunities come from when it comes to automation and AI, but that doesnât mean they arenât there. Manual Labour has continually become more specialised and more skilled and at the same time, manual labourers have remained in demand. Weâre never again going to be a low cost country and we shouldnât worry too much about that.
But past experience does not reliably forecast future prospects in such matters.
You also might increase innovation. Having a bit of a safety net makes it easier for people to try out new ideas instead of just having to get a safe and boring job that pays the bills.
That too, yes. But again – all of this works on paper. Iâd be fascinated to see it trialed properly, Iâm just not sure I want to be a guinea pig.
I knew a guy once who went on about the abolition of money and how great it would be in a philosophical-sounding way. Then I learned later in the conversation that if money were abolished he would have been about 15k better off…
I think we may find support of UBI polarized on similar lines with obvious exceptions being the usual suspects like George Monbiot and those kind of people.
I think we may become simultaneously more economically productive and less economically active. Weâre a long way off it though at this point. The accountant-free accounts receivable department is probably further away than the driverless car (which is much further away than they would have you believe).
You say trialled properly, so I’m assuming you’re aware of the limited experiments in some countries, all stopped AFAIK, except maybe the Alaska social divi .
The arguments against UBI seemed compelling to me. You can only fund it by withdrawing all state run universal safety nets, leaving each individual to fund their children’s education, all health and social care etc. And you still still have to deal with the mentally ill, druggies and others who can’t look after themselves on ÂŁ15K p.a.
I saw a story in the last couple of days suggesting there’s another research project just been announced in Germany.
Germany to trial giving away ÂŁ1,000 a month in universal basic income
If the answer is ‘more government’ then you’re asking the wrong question!
Chris Whitty has stated that closing schools is more harmful to children than the virus ever could be. In this he is obviously correct. However, he ought to be asked when he knew this. Did he know this when the government (notwithstanding their denial) decided to close the schools? If he did not, he is at best incompetent. If he did, he was guilty of participating in a decision that he knew would cause serious and substantial and unnecessary harm to the children of this country. Whitty, and all the others responsible for inflicting this harm on the nation’s children need to be held to account. Now.
Whitty should have the grace to resign, and spend the rest of his life in a severely penitential order of monks.
Not doing this, or similar, makes him a valid target.
He should be in solitary for the rest of his life and forced to wear a muzzle 24 hours a day.
Preferably in the Tower of London!
Quite. Either the virus has just now mutated and become effectively harmless to children, or it always was.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
This article was published in the New England Journal of Medicine on 28 February 2020, ie a month before the lockdown measures. The study clearly shows that the virus presents almost no risk to children.
If you look at Chris Whitty’s career, he has had close links for years with the BMGF. I am not saying that he is directly funded, perish the thought, and of course those handy online fact-checkers confirm that he’s not :-), but it is impossible not to doubt his motives for anything he says. These senior people whose advice supposedly informs the contradictory Government diktats are morally bankrupt and criminal: ‘Schools must open but the R number (WTF) will go up so we’ll have to close pubs and shops’, ‘Look at all these rising cases; it’s the second wave. We’ll need another full lockdown’, ‘There are no deaths in (wherever) so they must be locked down’, ‘No you can’t get your cancer treated, it’s far too dangerous to go to hospital’, ‘Food factories are hot-spots of ‘cases’ but not Amazon warehouses’ etc etc. etc. The promotion of their lies by the media is equally culpable. Confusion and fear rule and we stay divided. It is deliberate. We sceptics have always known that the Government has never followed ‘the science’. What they appear to be following, along with most other governments, is the WHO playbook, funded by famous philanthropists and big… Read more Âť
There is also nearly nothing about him anywhere except the following:
one of 4 brothers
never married
father shot dead in Athens
most of childhood spent in Nigeria
Went to Malawi to study malaria where he became involved with Bill Gates
top vaccine researched at GSK
became CMO of England
Now on board at WHO – recent appointment. Reward for services rendered?
That’s it sum total of searches.
Thanks, ‘Okkard GIt’! Not much but enough to spell it out. MW
They only want your obedience and your money.
âGet on with your lives! Professor says as coronavirus ânot as deadly as first thoughtââ â Itâs our old friend Prof Carl Heneghan again. Can he please be made the Chief Medical Officer?
How are they chosen? Like the Pope?
I think they have to gone to the same school as the chief civil servant in the department of health.
The chief civil servant in the department of health knows his dossiers. He also knows who butters his toast.
But even Heneghan implies that he defers to distancing and risks etc:
“When outbreaks do occur in pubs they should currently be seen as outliers. They give us an opportunity to study them – assess why the outbreak occurred so other venues can learn and reduce their risks.
âWhere they have broken the social distancing rules, this should be made clear.”
Come and listen to the only podcast taking the piss out of the bedwetting morons out there. Might change the name of the podcast…suggestions in replies please! Itâll be on iTunes next week. For now: https://open.spotify.com/show/4TvMounXNnJPuycMbn3kj7?si=rdqJ9sQrSn6wYSIbJ8YSJw
Listened yesterday, twas very good. We need more of the dramatics to lift our spirits, maybe a guest or two some discussion.
Name change sounds like a good idea.
Yeah, if youâve got any suggestions please pop them over!
Strayed sheep might be an appropriate Handel?
Sorry, couldn’t resist!
Ricks Rave
Good stuff, will listen later!
I’d also recommend “London Calling” from James Delingpole and Toby Young himself. They’re not without a little fun poked at the bedwetters.
Also, the Delingpod from James Delingpole. Both can be found on most podcat providers
https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/8ngj8-92924/London-Calling-Podcast
https://delingpole.podbean.com/
Brilliant article today Toby. Like the increased use of letters from contributors to get facts across. Like the observations and links in the comments section, anyone scrolling through your articles and reader comments for the last couple of days can gain more than enough information tounderstand everything we see happening. Kee up the great work.
Agreed! Thanks Toby.
Good for a laugh
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&time_continue=139&v=NZ5kcE-gcnw
thank you! we needed a laugh
But… it doesn’t deviate from the mainstream narrative. It thinks that the problem was that we didn’t lock down soon enough. This won’t bother Boris – it is a secondary irritation for him compared to The Big One: that we shouldn’t have locked down at all.
It was supposed to be humorous Barney! đ
So is Nish Kumar. But I’m not laughing đ
Donât worry – Nish is laughing so much at his own jokes that he doesnât care if you Think heâs funny.
I found this baloney on the Canada Weather Network site. Worried about global temperatures might be in the year 2100! This info came from the Government of Canada no less.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/this-scares-us-all-in-medicine-a-look-into-extreme-heat-in-2100
yellow car
Alexis Fitzgerald, thank you for your contribution. What an awesome post. Bring some friends!
The Guardian-reading woman’s e-mail was spot on. Her reference to Event 201 can be further supported as follows: The GPMB (Global Preparedness Monitoring Board, a UN/WHO/WBG organisation) report âA World At Risk – Annual report on global preparedness for health emergenciesâ states on page 10 of the Exec Summary that a progress indicator by September 2020 is:
âThe United Nations (including WHO) conducts at least two system-wide training and simulation exercises, including one for covering the deliberate release of a lethal respiratory pathogen.â
The simulation exercise was Event 201 in October 2019.
Could it be that Covid-19 is the âdeliberate release of a lethal respiratoryâ?
The report can be found at https://apps.who.int/gpmb/assets/annual_report/GPMB_annualreport_2019.pdf
Military games 2019?
RECENT ABERDEEN FOOTAGE OF THE POLICE REACTING TO SOMEONE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SECOND WAVE!
Yes indeed toby, we finally have a credible scientist from the mainstream being listened to and saying like it really is in the uk! As we have known for months here, the below will end by being the historic opinion of the madness / mass moronity which has come to pass over the last 5 months.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1326293/coronavirus-death-rate-UK-fatality-rate
PS. Below is sturgeons reaction to someone breaking the lockdown rules on an aberdeen beach who was looking forward to a big second wave! Note the reference to new zealand, where the demented woke leader would certainly lock him up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78s7DO5eehQ
Well said Toby Young.
This shouldnât be about right or left wing.
Itâs about being numerate and being able to understand relative risks.
I do think we could do with a high profile, centre left figure, also a Remainer, to come out in favour of Lockdown Scepticism. Much as I appreciate, indeed admire, what Toby has done here, bravely ploughing a lonely furrow at, I imagine, considerable professional risk, he is an extremely divisive figure for people who are Remain, ideologically and I do feel that is limiting the traction of our argument.
Agreed. Where would someone like Charlie Kennedy have been on this?
A very good example. I wonder where Heseltine is on lockdown.
Or Ken Clarke.
Ah yes. Ken Clarke – the doyen of the left since his stance on a No-Deal Brexit… never mind the million quid [at least] he made from a Tobacco company who exploited children in Africa — soooo progressive! đ
Pissed out of his head
It’s certainly true that people like Toby Young, Simon Dolan and Peter Hitchens will be attacked because of their politics, or perceived politics (lots of people think Hitchens is a “Tory”, which he isn’t) by people on the left, and any message they have will be ignored. I am afraid this is the case in the US where masks have become political, and toxic and daft US politics is infecting the world.
Lord Sumption is probably more centre right than left but he was probably a Remainer.
It’s quite shocking that not a single serving MP has at any point stated that the Emperor has no clothes.
The MPs are certanily not serving their constituents!
Skiving MPs more like!
I wonder what Frank Field’s views are? He’s no longer an MP but he was always one of the few MPs I respected.
He’s busy promoting Adonis’ book about Bevin.
This recent post might be of interest however:
This is the most important report on how to counter hunger and it should be the basis of our political action in countering this evil. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld5801/ldselect/ldfphe/85/85.pdf
@LordsFoodCom
I had a quick look. This bit rang alarm bells:
The government has introduced guidance on what constitutes a healthy diet through Public Health Englandâs Eatwell guide…..
…. We also have recommended that the government step up its efforts to encourage the food industry to reformulate its products to reduce harmful levels of salt, sugar and unhealthy types of fats…
Depends whose version of healthy fat you then promote!
However, I’d say the conclusions are relevant, given the coming epidemic of unemployment.
Just back from our first church service in the building. Covid-wise probably less of an ordeal than I thought. Arrived fairly early when there was nobody guarding the sanitiser or track-and-trace pad – that though was academic as I am well known there and we had all previously indicated we would be attending. 20 chairs distributed in singles and pairs at 2m spacing in the large hall. Nearly everybody else put a mask on either before or just after they entered, but virtually everyone had removed them ten minutes later. Friend Ian was distributing masks to those who didn’t, had to thrust my lanyard in his sight to remind him. One lady asked where I had got my lanyard from, suffers from asthma, one success. The service itself didn’t quite work as planned. It was a live plus Zoom service but they couldn’t manage to get sound from the remote Zoom participants. A bit important since the hymn music and prayers were being done by one of our remote members. So after starting 20 minutes late some substitutes had to be made and we just read the words of a couple of the hymns (not allowed to sing them anyway..).… Read more Âť
I thought you lot answered to a higher power. Just sing! And be, er, damned! If we are at the point where the Police would attend to haul away pensioners singing hymns in church then we are already lost.
https://churchesoftheuk.wordpress.com/2019/02/13/torridon-open-air-church-am-ploc-wester-ross/
For interest.
When lairds cleared the land people were left to live on the scraps of land at the fringes, the beaches. People continued to go to church. Fighting covid lockdown measures inspiration is found in our past.
No mistaking how brutal humans are against other humans. Not done in error. Deliberately cold actions.
http://laworfiction.com/2020/07/lockdown-laws-in-england-have-been-revoked/
You can sing!!! It is only GUIDANCE and there are no consequences for it!
Sing anyway. That will expose the snitches in your group. When found, excommunicate them.
Re reports from doctors and patients today, the medical profession should hang its head in shame. What happened to ” First, do no harm”.
Collectively rallying round to provide front line cover in the initial wave, fine. (Doctos are only too proud to tell me that they did this). But now, covering up the LACK of serious Covid cases so that the fear can be maintained.
Actively preventing other patients from getting medical treatment, at this late stage of the pandemic, will go down in history as an act of mass manslaughter.
Furthermore, we pay ÂŁ2.4billion a week for this. Any consultant who phones me up will get fried. And I’ll only zoom if he comes round and shows me how to use the thing.
I suppose the NHS was caught up in the whole overblown fear mantle created by Imperial and the letters from Simon Stevens to prepare for the 660k admissions that never happened. I know my friends still working for the NHS loath with a passion the clap for the NHS and the thank you NHS. Boris has certainly created a monster. My senior nurse partner says a lot of the doctors donât really know what has happened, are lost and he sends the link to Carl Heneghan to many.
But also some staff like the adoration.
Maybe in the beginning but there is no excuse for this charade to continue. The NHS should have been back to full service after 3 weeks.
Yes. Simon Stevens though continues to go along with the Imperial model, as does the government, in preparing for the winter wave so it is a higher management thing keeping things from functioning. Even the white elephant Nightingales and the private hospitals are being kept on standby. The top is holding up the change back. I suppose as an employee of the government Stevens goes with their narrative.
Although Simon Stevens, his NHS Chief Financial Officer Julian Kelly and management generally are planning and funding for services to mostly be back to 100% running by October (70% August, 80% Sept):
https://www.hfma.org.uk/news/news-list/Article/nhs-announces-elective-funding-details
Their guidance also now says that 14 day isolation prior to in- patient procedure is only recommended for the vulnerable, para3.5 of Guidance:
https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng179/chapter
But what about the 50% telemedicine we keep hearing about? That’s not 100% running, that’s 50% plus the few conditions that can be helped via phone or Skype.
But that’s still nonsense! The vulnerable will be at risk AFTER their in-patient procedure!
“But also some staff like the adoration.” They better watch that. I’ve been watching the Daily Mail comment sections quite carefully and hostility towards the NHS, including doctors and nurses, has been rising sharply. The continued lack of medical care is angering larger sections of the public – and this will only get worse over time as people suffer various medical conditions that they can’t get real help with.
I don’t know what what other European health services are like, but I’ve always found the NHS to be mediocre. The best thing that could be said about it is that it’s free at the point of use.
Well, they saved my life by operating when I had cancer. Then turned around and insisted that I needed chemo when it wasn’t actually the recommended treatment for my stage and grade of cancer. So swings and roundabouts here.
And as a user of American medical services, I can tell you that things could be worse. My mother was notified of her terminal lung cancer diagnosis by telephone in 1997 by an American doctor.
Put them on the spot. Test their technological prowess and their lack of humanity.
Doctors should be given no benefit of doubt, they’ve betrayed their patients, betrayed their oaths and lost the trust of the country. They will never recover their position in society.
In the hospital where I work, we want to see patients and are constantly trying to change the game so that we can, and are treated as if we’re being selfish. It’s purely a management decision that clinic space is not available to us and we are desperate that we can’t provide our usual service. I’ve even seen urgent patients in the car park and will probably be called to account for that. Phone consultations are not clinically safe, it’s impossible to properly assess and diagnose a patient without seeing and examining them. People don’t feel able to speak out as the cost would be our jobs, there is a rule not to “bring theTrust into disrepute” , a disciplinary matter, and this can cover pretty much any type of public expression of opinion, let alone the abysmal treatment of actual whistleblowers.
Well done for publishing that article about ‘left-wing’ scepticism. As I’ve said before, this issue cuts across the simple(minded) left/right dimension, and there are plenty of us who pigeon-hold as ‘left’ are also advocates of civil liberties and human rights. It used to be a taken-for-granted position outside the totalitarian spoof ‘left’. And, yes, we are Blairites – of the Eric sort rather than the Iraq-bombing sort. We value the freedom of speech that he passionately advocated, and are similarly against the corrupt perversion of language that he hated. We tend to be just as ‘okkard’ ( a term from my part of the world – contrarian by instinct and reluctant to sign up to shite just because it pretends the correct pedigree. The jackboot brigades to our left and to our right wings don’t much care for the breed : we don’t march to any old tune, and recognize the contradictions that Orwell wrote about so forcefully in ‘Homage to Catalonia’. Above all, I guess that many of us of my age remember the sort of ‘leftism’ of this generalised sort that inspired many of the two generations that went before; generations that felt strongly ‘never again’ and created… Read more Âť
Hear, hear!! Left-right has definitely left the building; far too simplistic. We’re ‘lefty refugees’ here too and we’re quite amused to be re-born as right-wing libertarians đ Starmer is Blair on steroids and we think the hijacking of the poppy thing is yet another psyop.
Above all, thank you for using the word ‘okkard’. Maybe you’re a north-westerner too. When I was about 20, my Dad (a small ‘c’ conservative) was asked to describe his daughter in one word. Guess which one he chose! MW
It is strange to be a right wing libertarian now for me too. But what this has done for me is to broaden my thinking. Perhaps open my eyes. I am so grateful to Toby for risking doing this website. And yes Starmer is terrible. I had hoped he might take up the sceptical mantle but instead he doubled down on the lefts risk adverse and elimination tripe. There is no going back now. But who will we vote for? I feel Labour is over for me. When I see Michael Gove I have a feeling he is going to come out as a sceptic and wrestle Boris off the podium. Would that be a good thing?
Yes, Toby Y has done us all a great service and i haven’t minded being exposed to different views either. What passes for the ‘left’ are a lost cause, it seems. As for Gove taking over – would it make any difference at all? I doubt it. MW
I tend to think that Gove, or anyone else, taking over would only be a good thing if it was on the basis of an admission that a huge mistake had been made and that we now need to get back to normal.
On the other hand I suppose it’s possible that he’s a secret sceptic, but would not say it openly, but would gradually look for a way out rather than doubling down. That would not be ideal, because it leaves us open to another round of this shit next time there is a “pandemic”, but it would arguably be better than what we have now.
He did say masks would not be mandatory – it’s possible that was a windup, but I tend to think it’s what he really thought. That’s a tiny chink of light maybe.
People like Gove must be reading things like this and the Spectator too. They do know Toby to some extent. I think Gove could do it. There are plenty of people with good credentials, Carl Heneghan etc, to help him. I donât know how possible it would be to replace Boris though. I donât have that much of an insight into the Conservative party. I think if he were brave enough to stand up to the fear and viral elimination stupidity he could turn things around and make a political name for himself.
I’ve no idea how much power the Chair of the 1922 committee has but I’ve been sending Graham Brady missives for a while, along these lines: Dear Sir Graham, I’m sure you read the article in the Daily Telegraph about your backbenchers getting restive. I really hope so. I hope you read all the comments on the increasing number of sceptical articles in the print media. The tide is definitely turning. One described Ferguson as having caused more deaths around the world as Pol Pot. Similarly, I get posts on my Facebook from Public Health, WHO, NHS and various other quangos operating in this mad world and the comments are eye-opening….I would say 80% sceptical, filled with derision and loathing for the bodies and the government. They are not going to be able to keep up the charade that they reacted proportionately, when the ‘all countries’ tally comes in. I’m sure you’ve read about Peru- the harshest lockdown, now approaching the worst death toll. It’s all there in the graphs. When parliament returns in September there will be an attempt to extend the government’s extraordinary powers for 2 years. Can you imagine another 2 years of this mayhem? I urge you to do something about it. With the current… Read more Âť
My MP is probably considered the leader of the “Red Wall” MPs. He isn’t known for answering emails but I keep trying
He lacks the strength of character. He’s basically a lying buffoon.
Right now I think I would support any politician who makes a determined, outspoken stand against this, even if they were one I would never normally vote for! Even if they do so purely as a career-advancing move.
But, in the longer term, I wouldn’t trust anyone who doesn’t make a solemn promise to never do this again, except in the most extreme circumstances (e.g an Ebola-like disease as discussed above) and for the minimum time necessary.
It seems certain elements took the opportunity to try to bring the government down which is criminal in the middle of a crisis like this with people suffering. But I am as disappointed with Boris for not being able to stand up to it.
Put them in a ring and let them wrestle it out WWE style. Fun for all.
Nah…make them all take a go on Takeshi’s Castle! winner takes all đ
I was a Green Party supporter, not anymore.
I wouldn’t trust the Slimy Gove as far as I could throw him.
The future looks bleak, the future is ……
I’m a South-West okkard bugger from a long line (as long as I can trace – heading for the iron age) of Gloucestershire weavers, carpenters and assorted peasants (before the houses got taken over by Islington and Kensington weekenders).
A wide family that routinely and humorously took the piss out of anyone too precious, precocious or fragile and risk-averse was the best vaccination against bullshit like this.
Alan G is from Bath and he says they never used ‘okkard’ (even though he out-okkards me, frequently!) He says for them lot, Northerners start at Gloucester so maybe he’s right, for once. MW
Okkard applies in my part of Yorkshire too – mind you I’m right on the Derbyshire border.
Ah, nobbut just. đ MW
Yes my sentiments too. What shall all we politically homeless do? I know Toby has said it is how he feels too. We are people of what would be termed left and termed the right. It doesnât split that easily anymore. If only Boris was brave enough even now to stand up and say they did their best back in March but with more information can see it was an over reaction. There could still be a turning point and he could recover himself and the country. He has Carl Heneghan to back him. Reading the cancer stories was heartbreaking and just the tip of iceberg of the terrible sadness and loneliness this has caused, people dying alone, people fading away in isolation. I know from my critical care anaesthetist friend that suicides are up. A week ago the M62 was closed when I was travelling East as a woman was perched worryingly on a bridge. Perhaps she driven to it by the Covid lunacy. Just today my family learnt from my fathers care home that if he attends his eye clinic appointment in September they will make him isolate in his room for 14 days. We will cancel the… Read more Âť
“ If only Boris was brave enough …”
If only Mr Toad wasn’t Mr Toad, with a record of narcissistic opportunism that has never surprised …
Read this, under “guidance” they cannot stop visits if it is against the welfare of the patient/resident. They can put restrictions in place such as masks, meeting outside, limiting numbers of visitors at one time but they cannot stop any visits: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/visiting-care-homes-during-coronavirus/update-on-policies-for-visiting-arrangements-in-care-homes The assessment should consider relevant factors including: the health and wellbeing risks arising from the needs of the cohort of residents in that setting. This will include both whether their needs make them particularly vulnerable to COVID-19 and whether their needs make visits particularly important (for example, people with dementia, a learning disability or autistic people may be permitted visitors when restricting visitors could cause some of the residents to be distressed) where the healthcare needs of the individual cannot be met by socially distant visits, whether there are sufficient infection-control measures in place to protect the residents, staff and visitors, to allow the visit to take place The factors relevant to decisions about particular individuals or groups of residents include the following: the benefits to a personâs wellbeing by having a particular visitor or visitors the extent of the harm that will be experienced by the resident from a lack of visitation or whether the individual is… Read more Âť
Thank you. You do so much to help with all the legal things. We were waiting to see what they would come up with no now it is so restrictive we can discuss it with the CCG and try to get some help. The guidelines are much more supportive of visits but as they are private owners they can hide behind we are doing it to protect the rest of the residents. Really now that I have had some experience of the care sector I think some of them are not fit to be running care homes.
“What shall all we politically homeless do?” Stop voting for parties that do not represent our views, and give support to parties that do, if they emerge. Ideally you’d want a properly conservative party to emerge, and a party on the left that sincerely believed in liberty and freedom of speech, but opposed the “conservative” party in other areas of policy.
Also enjoyed reading the article, even if my background and original political sympathies weren’t precisely identical. I can totally identify with the second-to-last paragraph.
My only comment is about the couple of “The virus could mutate” references, as far as I know if a virus like this – highly infectious and only moderately lethal – mutated naturally, it would become less lethal (possibly more infectious as well). When a virus becomes more dangerous by mutating, it’s when you have a lethal but not especially infectious (or not human-to-human transmissible) virus which becomes more infectious (as with bird flu). Apologies if I’m incorrect in my assumptions here.
What does seem to be mutating out of control is the psychological “virus” which seems to have infected so much of the world’s population (and virtually all of its leaders)!
Yes. It’s a virus of the mind more than the body.
Mutation is just random. Anything that makes the virus more infectious will be selected for. Virus doesn’t care if you die because either way you’re immune but it wants you not to be too ill so you keep moving around spreading it.
Coronaviruses mutate relatively little and so far there is only evidence of one mutation that gives it an evolutionary advantage. It’s called DG814 or something (I may have the number wrong but it starts with DG). Sylvie posted a link about it the other day.
This mutation happened pretty early and made it better at entering cells which was an advantage. But it didn’t make the disease any worse.
Fear mongering about mutations is exactly that. It’s just as likely that any other common cold coronavirus would suddenly become more lethal and we never worried about that.
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30820-5
As an American (/Brit dual citizen), I now despair about the November American election. As a leftwing person, of course I would never vote for Trump. Despise the guy – I’ve known too many people just like him. Sorry if that ruffles your feathers – I grit my teeth at some of the right-leaning comments here, but “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and all that, so as far as I’m concerned, we’re comrades in arms here.
But Biden and Harris are calling for a three-month nationwide mask mandate. They’ve swallowed the whole thing hook, line and sinker.
Biden also says he’d lock down country if spread of coronavirus warranted it
Obviously, I cannot vote for a candidate that thinks it’s okay to lockdown my birth country like that.
So it looks like I may not be voting this year. I don’t know if I can convey how big a deal it is for me not to be able to vote against Trump, but it seems that my birth country has gone mad.
I feel for you. I’m not an American but was obsessed with US politics until the coronavirus madness descended. I hate Trump too, but Biden lost me with the mask garbage. If I were an American, I couldn’t vote for Biden on that basis alone, though I’m not sure I could vote for Trump either. I have felt politically homeless most of my life, but I’ve now become a one issue voter and my issue is FREEDOM. Having said that, I still feel politically homeless because all the parties have trampled our freedoms and are utterly power hungry. Good luck with your decision — and if it’s to not bother voting I totally get it.
Well, it certainly won’t be to vote for Trump, but it looks likely that Biden has lost my vote.
They may have mistimed that. Public opinion will turn probably rather rapidly at some point. I guess we just hope for an odd number of U-turns between now and the election.
Just start calling it the “Biden Burka”.
That normally does the trick.
I could hug you. Agree with every word
The WHO gives him access to youth serum. It’s experimental, so it doesn’t quite work.
( I just totally made that up, in case anyone doesn’t get the sarcasm).
Adrenochrome.
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Frightening how often many a true word is spoken in jest.
Its impossible to do satire anymore. The real world outruns it.
They should have given him a truth serum instead.
I was in Phuket a few weeks before the 2004 tsunami and I returned the following November after the tsunami to find it as I had left if, fabulous. The effects of the tsunami to those effected were horrifying to the extreme – I had some friends who were on Phi Phi island when it hit from both sides, they survived physically but maybe not mentally. But the survivors picked themselves up, cleaned the place up, and just got on with it. Now its an unpleasant memory. If we had no sensationalist, exaggerated, out of context, media reporting of the virus, and there had been no reaction, then I believe; the hospitals may well have been overwhelmed as the vulnerable succumb to the bug, many would have passed away a few weeks/months early, those effected would have had a horrendous time for a short intense period, herd immunity would quickly and naturally put an end to this particular nasty, and possibly increase our immune systems ability to fight the next nasty that comes along. meanwhile; businesses would continue to do business, people would continue to go to work, children would continue be educated and tested, people would continue to receive… Read more Âť
All you need on Whitty is this quote:
Select Committee for Health and Social Care, 21st July 2020:
CMO Dr Chris Whitty stated âIf you look at the R, and the behaviours, quite a lot of the change that led to the R going below one occurred well before, or to some extent before, the 23rd, when the full lockdown started.â
Toby mentioned it exactly once then never again. Anywhere. By anyone.
Committee Chair Hunt never question him on it and neither did any other committee member. They have not answered e-mails about this either.
No other links anywhere on the internet no matter what search engine you use either.
Only place it is on is on parliamentlivetv which they cannot really hide but do not advertise and you ahem to search for the quote.
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/4b2dfc60-0c0e-47fe-8b78-1db2f135a004
Here is a link to a video I had them make for me, the instructions for this are on the website and easy to follow:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Agv7JEO8MngCiSmT-rY5ChSI9LV-
It runs from 10:58:00 to 11:01:00 on the video recording of the committee hearing.
Very useful – thank you! MW
Thanks .Will take a look.
The eyes have it:
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-tell-someones-lying-by-watching-their-face-2016-1?r=US&IR=T#keep-an-eye-out-for-rapid-blinking-2
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8655725/British-holidaymakers-Spain-risk-deadly-West-Nile-virus.html
Just when you thought it was safe to come out from behind the sofa. Ner-na. Ner-na. Ner-na, ner-na, ner-na, ner-na…Dives into a vat of santiser…
Sanitiser even…
The Daily Mail has always been full of such doom-mongering nonsense. Bollox in other words.
Trouble is that its readers seem to swallow the stuff whole and without question.
Hitchens must often feel like a lone voice in the wilderness.
All the tabloids are full of shit, and the “quality” newspapers are not always better.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343797723_Emerging_of_a_SARS-CoV-2_viral_strain_with_a_deletion_in_nsp1
I published this in the last edition where Baltimore group found evidence of genome deletion making it possible that C-19 is getting less virulent. I did not notice that one of the co-authors was Robert Gallo a friend of Mr Fear himself Fauci. Maybe he changes his mind now.
Gallo was friends with Mr Fauci way before Bill Gates was.
âCoronavirus: We will see âreal problemsâ with Covid-19 this winterâ chief medical officer says.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-foolish-to-assume-covid-19-vaccine-will-be-here-for-winter-whitty-12954756
I looked to see what these âreal problemsâ were but couldnât find any explanation.
Too few dying with Covid-19?
Collateral deaths from the health service closing down?
Medical officers and government having to face the music at last?
Mass unemployment?
Sorry fat fingers again! Last number should read 12054756
Like I said yesterday – all these public health boffins. What an easy job when your main key performance indicator is that reality is never as bad as your prediction !!
Problems like mass unemployment and accompanying crime wave and civil disorder?
This man is a criminal. And look at who he’s in bed with (Awkward G’s post, above). MW