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Boris Johnson is Mistaken About His Mistakes

PM: “I didn’t have a clue about the virus back in March and I still don’t Laura.”

In an interview with Laura Kuenssberg for the BBC to mark his first anniversary of becoming Prime Minister, Boris Johnson admitted to having made mistakes in his initial response to the pandemic. Unfortunately, they were the wrong mistakes.

I think it’s fair to say that there are things that we need to learn about how we handled it in the early stages… There will be plenty of opportunities to learn the lessons of what happened.

Maybe there were things we could have done differently, and of course there will be time to understand what exactly we could have done, or done differently.

We didn’t understand [the virus] in the way that we would have liked in the first few weeks and months.

The single thing that we didn’t see at the beginning is the extent to which is was being transmitted asymptomatically from person to person. That wasn’t clear to us or to anybody.

What people really want to focus on now is what are we doing to prepare for the next phase.

Not clear to anybody? What nonsense is this? There was plenty of speculation that the virus could be transmitted by asymptomatic carriers from almost the first moment it was identified. In late January, Dr Anthony Fauci told CNN: “There’s no doubt after reading this paper that asymptomatic transmission is occurring.”

The paper he was referring too was a study published on January 30th in the New England Journal of Medicine.

But we now know there’s reason to doubt these preliminary research findings. At a WHO press conference on June 8th, Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, the WHO’s technical lead on the pandemic, said:

We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing. They’re following asymptomatic cases, they’re following contacts and they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare and much of that is not published in the literature.

From the papers that are published there’s one that came out from Singapore looking at a long-term care facility. There are some household transmission studies where you follow individuals over time and you look at the proportion of those that transmit onwards.

We are constantly looking at this data and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question. It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.

This caused a sensation at the time and the WHO subsequently issued a “clarification” saying that it simply don’t know whether the virus can be transmitted by people who are genuinely asymptomatic.

Dr Van Kerkhove’s admission was a “gaffe” in the classic sense of the word: when someone in a position of authority inadvertently tells the truth.

So Boris is (sort of) admitting that he should have imposed a lockdown earlier, even though he shouldn’t, and claiming the reason he didn’t is because he hadn’t realised back then that scientists studying the disease wrongly assumed asymptomatic transmission was a key driver of the pandemic, even though every man and his dog thought that back in March. However, he has now embraced this assumption – just when we have good reason to doubt it – and is now fully prepared for the next wave, i.e. the Government will repeat the same mistake it made in March and indiscriminately lock up the healthy as well as the sick this winter.

Meanwhile, on a walkabout in the Tollgate Medical Centre in Beckton, Boris said we wouldn’t have defeated the virus until “the middle of next year” and hinted that we would still be forced to wear masks in shops (and possibly the workplace) until then.

Give me strength.

New Essay by Guy de la Bédoyère

Victorian state premier Daniel Andrews keeps on eye on his disobedient citizens

I’m publishing a great new essay today by the historian and regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor Guy de la Bédoyère. The meat of it is an account of the dire situation in the state of Victoria in Australia, where the incompetent state premier Daniel Andrews has imposed a second lockdown. But there’s some great stuff before that in which Guy vents his frustration about mandatory face nappies:

One of my former colleagues has a nurse for a daughter and she has thrown herself with characteristic zealotry into the role of being the mother of a saint. Not only has she busied herself at her sewing machine churning out scrubs but also proclaimed her righteous joy in the ostentatious wearing of masks. She does this, she says, not because she’s scared, because she isn’t (so she says), but because of her solidarity with the legions of angels in the NHS, “it’s the right thing to do”, and she is doing it for the wider good of the community. She might as well have called the latter Volksgemeinschaft.

There is an ominous and crazy religious tone to all this, and she is not alone in exhibiting an inclination to participate in Covid Cult Culture. Masks have rapidly become the symbol of moral superiority, amounting almost to being a badge denoting membership of the Party. Wear a mask and you’re a good person, conspicuously virtue-signalling in public. Don’t wear one and you’re a bad person, a lesser being, a walking symbol of the fear that stalks the streets. In short, you risk becoming the Devil’s hand-servant, a pariah, an enemy of the state. No matter that even surgical masks are only tested on their Bacterial Filtration Efficiency (BFE) (European Standard EN14683:2019) and splash resistance – viruses don’t come into it. Cheapo face-covering masks don’t even meet that standard. Viruses, which are much smaller, don’t come into it – the efficacy is really only limited to splash resistance. If you want a mask that stops viruses you have to have a respirator-type mask.

Worth reading in full.

More Masks Than Jellyfish in the Sea

Joffrey Peltier of French environmentalist non-profit Opération Mer Propre catches the wrong kind of fish

Anyone who’s been on a country walk recently will have seen discarded masks despoiling the natural environment. (I even saw some in the Dolomites on my recent visit to Italy.) But the situation threatens to become even worse in the world’s oceans. According to a story in the Guardian:

Conservationists have warned that the coronavirus pandemic could spark a surge in ocean pollution – adding to a glut of plastic waste that already threatens marine life – after finding disposable masks floating like jellyfish and waterlogged latex gloves scattered across seabeds.

The French non-profit Opération Mer Propre, whose activities include regularly picking up litter along the Côte d’Azur, began sounding the alarm late last month.

Divers had found what Joffrey Peltier of the organisation described as “Covid waste” – dozens of gloves, masks and bottles of hand sanitiser beneath the waves of the Mediterranean, mixed in with the usual litter of disposable cups and aluminium cans.

CNN broadcast a similar report last month:

Beaches on the French Côte d’Azur like Cannes or St. Tropez are among the most coveted vacation spots worldwide, but now the coronavirus pandemic has left an abundance of pollutants in the water: discarded masks and gloves.

“How would you like swimming with COVID-19 this summer?” Laurent Lombard, a diver and founder of the nonprofit Opération Mer Propre (Operation Clean Sea) asked in a Facebook post last month.

Wall St Journal Op Ed Section Sees Off Woke Mob

The Wall St Journal‘s editorial board responds to attempts by snowflake junior staffers to censor conservative content

I’m a huge fan of the Wall St Journal‘s op ed page, which I’ve contributed to many times. It is one of the last outposts of classical liberalism in America’s mainstream media. Consequently, I was alarmed when a letter signed by 280 Wall St Journal reporters, condemning the opinion pages for spreading “misinformation” (woke-speak for conservative views), was leaked last week. Would the paper’s editorial board buckle in response to a revolt by junior staff, mimicking what happened at the New York Times last month? Thankfully not. The editorial board published a robust response yesterday:

It was probably inevitable that the wave of progressive cancel culture would arrive at the Journal, as it has at nearly every other cultural, business, academic and journalistic institution. But we are not the New York Times. Most Journal reporters attempt to cover the news fairly and down the middle, and our opinion pages offer an alternative to the uniform progressive views that dominate nearly all of today’s media.

As long as our proprietors allow us the privilege to do so, the opinion pages will continue to publish contributors who speak their minds within the tradition of vigorous, reasoned discourse. And these columns will continue to promote the principles of free people and free markets, which are more important than ever in what is a culture of growing progressive conformity and intolerance.

Worth reading in full.

Meanwhile, Barbara Kay, a longstanding conservative columnist at Canada’s National Post, has resigned. It seems the editorial board of the Post is not as robust as its counterpart at the Journal. Shame. Kay is a great columnist.

Round-Up

Here’s a round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Just one today: “New Rules” by Dia Lupa.

Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened

A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.

Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.

Note to the Good Folks Below the Line

I enjoy reading all your comments and I’m glad I’ve created a “safe space” for lockdown sceptics to share their frustrations and keep each other’s spirits up. But please don’t copy and paste whole articles from papers that are behind paywalls in the comments. I work for some of those papers and if they don’t charge for premium content they won’t survive.

We created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, but they became a magnet for spam (apologies for mixed metaphor) so we’ve temporarily closed them. However, we can open them again if some readers volunteer to be moderators. If you’d like to do this, please email Ian Rons, the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster, here.

Shameless Begging Bit

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And Finally…

Man finds new use for face nappy

This brave soul walked down Oxford St yesterday wearing a face mask – and nothing else! The Evening Standard, which has several photographs of the gentleman, does not disclose whether he was allowed into H&M or Top Shop.

Meanwhile, a reader points out how ineffective masks have been in South Africa:

They made masks compulsory outside the home on May 1st, when they had 5,951 cases.

Now they’ve had 408,502 cases.

“Imagine how bad it would have been without the masks” is the response of believers in the new religion of face masks.

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Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

A catalogue of errors on every front. An abject lesson in how to spend political capital very quickly. Pandemic over reaction, total inability to control rubber boat arrivals, allowing a trial to be concluded where questions of jury interference remain, and now the final indignity, heading towards a ‘level playing field’ fake Brexit…He is only getting away with it for lack of a credible genuinely centre-right alternative…so far….nature hates a vacuum…

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

Nearly forgot, plus wanton throwing around of tax payers hard earned cash and vote destroying‘ tax reviews’. The funny thing is that when they lose their majority at the next election, they won’t understand why, it will be the voters fault…simple lesson in life, never bite the hand that feeds…when did the Tories morph into New Labour?

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

Mandatory gloves coming next apparently, it’s almost as though a group of liberals somewhere in a darkened room are amusing themselves by seeing what they can get away with next…

IanE
IanE
5 years ago

Well – it’s surely much harder to claim ‘exemption’ from gloves, so this is even deeper stasi tactics!

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

I suppose we could paint/dye our hands a light turquoise blue …

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Impetigo

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Dermatitis

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sorry Karen, didn’t notice your reply before replying myself. My bad…

nfw
nfw
5 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Love the name, an Irish Karen.

sue
sue
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

wear boxing gloves and look as though mean to use them!! 🙂
i used to go to bootcamp and in the boxing exercises had a mean right hook and upper cut!! ha 🙂

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

I look like I’m going to use them even without gloves.

Ethelred the Unready
Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

Didn’t the wearing of boxing gloves used to be a ‘cure’ for onanism?

James Leary
James Leary
5 years ago

That was Corn Flakes, I believe.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Contact dermatitis.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Scabies.

Leprosy.

Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Those blue gloves are super allergenic and can be quite systemically toxic, they have a lot of NASTY chemicals in them.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Do like Michael Jackson did, only wear one.

arfurmo
arfurmo
5 years ago

Great comment in the Sun “The healthy sheep will comply as they always do. They would wear a dog turd on their heads if Dr. Hilary told them it would prevent a sniffle.”

Harry Hopkins
Harry Hopkins
5 years ago

Not what I hear. The next edict is to persuade people that walking backwards helps prevent inhalation of the virus.

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago

Presumably to prepare us for the mandatory insertion of the gloved finger up the netherhole while shopping Why not? It will probably “save lives” just as much as masking does.

sue
sue
5 years ago

wear the kenny everett gloves – that would be funny!
What happened to comedy/comedians – they’re so dull these days i can’t watch

Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

What happened to comedy/comedians – they’re so dull these days i can’t watch
“How I Got Cancelled” – Andrew Lawrence

eastberks44
eastberks44
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They got cancelled. Except for the ones you can only watch through censored electronic media.

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

They went woke, sadly

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago
Reply to  sue
richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  sue
NOTOKWITHTHIS
NOTOKWITHTHIS
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

Ryan Long US comedian is doing some good stuff. His ‘snitches for riches’ piece reflects the mask shaming we are seeing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxD-3J9Wvz4

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

There is no fun or humour allowed we might as well be living in East Germany

Margaret
Margaret
5 years ago

Have they got a job lot of “work experience” kids working for the civil service? Maybe they have just left university or are temping. That’s the only explanation that I can think of because whoever is making up these rules clearly has no common sense nor experience of life. They are living in a fantasy world.

karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

They have just discovered Monty Python and are trying to outdo the Ministry of Silly Walks sketch.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Totally unreal. I can’t work out whether most folk deserve pity or contempt for keeping up with the BS.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Contempt for some, pity for the others.

Sylvie
Sylvie
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Sigh. Most civil servants work at a computer terminals and have now discovered, like the rest of the world, that it’s perfectly possible to do this at home. Now Boris wants to herd them all back in to stuffy offices to breathe on each other all day long – while business has realised that it can save a bomb by stopping renting office space! The forthcoming debt crisis for property magnates may be what’s driving Boris, rather than anything else. The City of London will not return to normal and that will be worrying him.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Probably the kids of these new nomenklatura who never had to shop because they have minions doing it for them, never take public transport as they’re always being chauffeured, never have to fly commercial because they fly via private jet. In other words they never have to come across the likes of us riff-raff so they have no idea how we live!

T. Prince
5 years ago

Especially when all this is being led by lobby groups, not scientists or politicians. Might be gloves next, it will definitely be masks everywhere outdoors….

masks4all.org.uk

If these people want to change society on our behalf then they should enter politics and get elected instead of sculking in the shadows

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Exactly. Weird, oddball cult.

CarrieAH
5 years ago

Well you can’t use a smartphone with nitrile gloves on.

Cruella
Cruella
5 years ago
Reply to  CarrieAH

Gloves in healthcare are worn to protect the person wearing them from body fluids/chemicals. Handwashing is done to protect the vulnerable from invisible pathogens. Wearing gloves prohibits and discourages hand washing and increases risk. I will not be gloving up or masking up ever. Until such time as this changes, I stay out.

Digital Nomad
Digital Nomad
5 years ago

“The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

CarrieAH
5 years ago

Well, I have a lovely pair of white crocheted gloves used for a wedding. Lots of holes in them due to being crochet. I’ll use those 😡

skipper
skipper
5 years ago

Are we allowed to wear Freddy Krueger gloves?

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago

I love it when people blithely talk about ‘the next election’ …

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

I agree.I can’t see how they will ever let us vote again.And I believe they have not intention of ever paying the money back that they have wasted.

Paul M
Paul M
5 years ago

Agree too. We’ll never be allowed to vote again.
But there has to be some way to get rid of bojo (and his complicit chums) and have a leader who will give us our freedoms back.
MPs don’t seem to give a stuff.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul M

There is. But you need a lot more people behind it than we have now. Too early yet.
Edit: And it won’t be looking for someone to “give” us our freedoms back. We’ll have to take them back.

T. Prince
5 years ago

My view entirely. If Blair/Brown et al get their way, we’ll have world government by next year. The US is the tipping point in November

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago

Next year is Council elections in England, and Scottish and Welsh elections for the respective devolved governments. I suspect those will go ahead – put extremists in. That’ll shake the government.

If in Scotland, hold your nose if you must and give the SNP a clean sweep. Boris will hate that.

In Wales, same with Plaid.

Mr Dee
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

I’m never voting Plaid after this – they wanted a more extreme Lockdown than we got with Drakeford. That said, I’m never voting Labour or Tory again. Lib Dems – no. Green – no. I’ll vote for whoever says they would have followed the Swedish model, if anybody is brave enough to put that on their manifesto.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

I think I’d rather vote for the Monster Raving Looney Party or None of the Above.

etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
5 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

If all I get in my area to pick from is the usual Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, Green… rubbish options I’ll be spoiling the ballot with a ballad on how we should have copied Sweden.

Lms2
Lms2
5 years ago

We will be allowed to vote.
But it won’t make any difference. All the parties are as bad as each other. The Tories have co-opted the worst possible policies from each of the other main parties.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago

Under David Cameron

AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
5 years ago

…when did the Tories morph into New Labour?

Hitchens book ‘The Cameron Delusion’ sheds light on this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Delusion-Peter-Hitchens/dp/1441135057

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago

It already has. Blair was Major Mark 2, Brown was Major Mark 3, Cameron #4, May #5, so we are up to Major Mark 6 for Fatso.

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53525470

Tony Blair: We will need to learn to live with coronavirus

“The reality is that we’re going to be living with Covid-19 – we’re not really going to be able to eliminate it,” 

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

In fairness I’d agree with that comment. Which is why we need herd immunity. The only way to achieve that is to catch the damned thing. If it really exists, of course.

MiriamW
MiriamW
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Scientists e.g. Prof. Sunetra Gupta think we may have already got herd immunity. Certainly, by any reckoning, the epidemic is over so the mask mandate is a psyop to test obedience. So far, we’re doing well . . . .

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

It doesn’t need to be eliminated. You do. Buzz off Tony!

etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

That bastard wanted ID cards for everyone in the UK, he’s loving this panicdemic as a chance to push his tyrannical ambitions.

Mark II
Mark II
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

Gahhh why are none of them stopping to think, ‘hang on… Do we actually _need_ to eliminate this?’… Them and the general public, how has the consensus become accepted that we can’t go back to normal til its gone, when it’s provable not that fucking bad anyway

Chicot
Chicot
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

What we are doing is definitely not living with it. It’s the collective equivalent of hiding under the bed.

Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

We live with fucking colds too, big deal

Farinances
Farinances
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

His idea of ‘living with the virus’ is biometric ID cards tied to vaccination and health records. He bloody LOVES this shit. It’s his life’s work realised.

Ethelred the Unready
Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Isn’t it tragic when you stand in the voting booth and have to hold your nose and vote for the least worst? I have been doing exactly that since Thatcher, the last PM I voted for with positivity

Hugh Cooper
Hugh Cooper
5 years ago

Ha! you’ll have to wear your mask and gloves and goodness knows what else to vote at the next election

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

Other way round – New Labour was a Tory virus (a real one). Meanwhile it’s nutters of the right, not ‘liberals’ who are responsible for this shambles, although many seem to be in denial of the bleedin’ obvious.

Lms2
Lms2
5 years ago

HS2 go-ahead
Huawei go-ahead until current situation forced a u-turn (maybe)
Immigration

I thought Boris might be a bit flakes, except on Brexit, but he’s exceeded my low expectations.
Talk about finding a deep hole and keep digging. He’ll be all the way to China at this rate.

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

Not just face mask filth in the sea, but hand poison filth too. Countryfile ( now a nest of zombie zealotry) ran a piece last year on possible polluting effects of antibacterial gel – and that’s long before the zombies started swilling it.

GLT
GLT
5 years ago

Travelling today, I am not wearing a mask. Autistic son extremely angry and agitated that I am not obeying the rules. Neuro-typical children also made to feel anxious by non-conformance. A great deal of discussion of morality and law required.

Catherine
Catherine
5 years ago
Reply to  GLT

My 22 year old daughter told me yesterday that I am a “horrible person” for using my exemption card upon entering a shop. (I have no disability but am a libertarian and lockdown sceptic.) She could offer no evidence for needing a mask but simply believes the UK gov propoganda. I’m saddened and really concerned that such an intelligent individual as she hasn’t researched the counter evidence and is so ready to condemn me.

Proudtobeapeasant
Proudtobeapeasant
5 years ago
Reply to  Catherine

I regularly post things about the lockdown on Facebook, including one about refusing to wear a mask, accompanied by a link to an article from here. One son agrees with my stance (and went on the anti-mask protest in London) the other, who has lived abroad for several years, completely disagrees, either on Facebook or via more private means. He always quickly counters my posts, usually with some comment that the article is not reliable, with other articles opposing what I’m saying (and I often think his articles are far less reliable than mine) and worries that I am thinking wrongly. He’s an engineer with a 1st class degree. I try to discuss it all calmly but it’s difficult. My husband also disagrees with me. It’s upsetting when your family gets divided, but this will happen.

etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
5 years ago
Reply to  GLT

Would think, from knowing several people with similar conditions, that someone autistic would be more streesed by the PRESENCE not absence of masks. From what I’ve seen lockdown scepticism is pretty common among those with autism, the high functioning ones see through all the bullshit and recognise that the viral risk is neglible (and always has been), the low functioning consider this whole lockdown charade a disastrous disruption to routine without any cause they can understand (and truth be told there is no proper reasoning behind the panic we’ve seen).

Harry Hopkins
Harry Hopkins
5 years ago

Nice to see the VIRUS and the SPREADER sitting together.

Jay Berger
Jay Berger
5 years ago
Reply to  Harry Hopkins

And those ar*e-licking Tory blue shoes…

DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago

Boris is being disingenuous about his mistakes, and I think he knows it. I live in hope that the truth will eventually out, but it looks like the Government is giving itself plenty of time to create an alternate reality – masks until the middle of next year? Really?

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

“Disingenuous”. What a very genteel word that is.

T. Prince
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

And people will accept the forced vaccination program if it means dispensing with masks and other restrictions. As Boris says, we’d be nuts to refuse the jab this winter

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

I think he’s referring to the flu jab. But erm, wasn’t that believed to be a partial cause of bad symptoms reckoned to maybe perhaps be the virus?

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

That is what Dolores Cahill suggested on a podcast not too long ago. Some vaccines precipitated adverse reactions that led to contracting Covid-19, especially in Northern Italy. Those vaccinations were given way before the outbreak after Christmas 2019.

Proudtobeapeasant
Proudtobeapeasant
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

And see here -Dr John Campbell explains “Flu Vaccination and Covid 19 risk” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utMREADbtAc

Natalie
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Some time ago (I am doing this from memory, so cannot provide a link) the US army found that multiple flu vaccines on an individual could cause vaccine interference and result in a person suffering more sever reactions to viruses where otherwise a mild or asymptomatic response would have been expected.There is a good video on ‘Perspectives on the pandemic’, Judy Mikovits and Robert Kennedy Jr, 3 in total. Good insight into viruses, retroviruses and dementia,negative effects of masks, her work in HIV, her findings regarding the negative effects of some vaccines grown on mice brain cells etc. Basically a huge range of stuff and very interesting.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Lying out of his arse you mean? C’mon, some of us only went to a bog (sub-)standard comprehensive.

Lms2
Lms2
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

If people wear them for long enough, they become habit, then psychologically necessary.

Cruella
Cruella
5 years ago
Reply to  Lms2

You’re right, that is what worries me. I have to wear them at work all the time. It now feels like something is wrong without one, you find yourself covering your mouth. It’s so bloody bad.

Awkward Git
5 years ago

New normal mentioned at the 2019 Economic Policy Symposium in Jackson Hole.

https://kansascityfed.org/publications/research/escp/symposiums/escp-2019

From the speech by Chair Powell:

“Era III, 2010 and After: Monetary Policy and the Emerging New Normal
The third era began in 2010 as the recovery from the Great Recession was taking hold. My focus in discussing this era will be on a “new normal” that is becoming apparent in the wake of the crisis. “

Awkward Git
5 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

From Mark Carney’s speech:

IV. Medium term: reshuffling the deck by reforming the existing system
In the new world order, a reliance on keeping one’s house in order is no longer sufficient. The neighbourhood too must change.
There can be innocent bystanders but there should be no disinterested observers. We are all responsible for fixing the fault lines in the system.

There are a few more comments in his complete speech that are very similar:

https://kansascityfed.org/~/media/files/publicat/sympos/2019/governor%20carney%20speech%20jackson%20hole.pdf?la=en

Very, very worrying.

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

I know this is off topic, but this is so depressing, I needed a laugh.

what these fine upholders of law and order need….😁

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Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

😂

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago

Supports for Copper’s knees..

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Annie
Annie
5 years ago

😂

Catherine123
Catherine123
5 years ago

Brilliant Ethelred!

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
5 years ago

🤣🤣

Cristi.Neagu
5 years ago

“I used to be a police officer, but then i took a woke arrow to the knee.”

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago

Was that a Billy Graham rally?

Simon
Simon
5 years ago

Looking at the disposing of hazardous waste, i.e masks, they can only be dropped or discarded by mask wearers.

Certainly isn’t our fault :>)

IanE
IanE
5 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Silly boy, it is, obviously, Trump’s fault!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

That is the most disgustingly unhygienic measure they could possibly come up with!
Let’s hope the Lords go back to sleep and it gets forgotte about!
Maybe summer recess isn’t such a bad idea.

Jay Berger
Jay Berger
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

They have gone completely bonkers.
Like the Belgians today.
Or, it’s all part of a really cunning plan.

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Berger
HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

Retail therapy a thing of the past as shoppers face Mask-Up Friday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/24/retail-therapy-thing-past-shoppers-face-mask-up-friday/

Lms2
Lms2
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

So if the government wanted people to be more confident about going out shopping, mandating masks is the worst choice possible.

Awkward Git
5 years ago

Got bored so sent this e-mail to some national newspapers, the BBC, Sky, ITV etc yesterday. So far not one – no surprise there. I feel like letting rip at my MP one last time. “On the 21st July 2020 the Chief Medical Officer of England, Dr Chris Whitty, appeared before a Parliamentary select committee for health and social care. Under questioning he stated the following on record: “If you look at the R, and the behaviours, quite a lot of the change that led to the R going below one occurred well before, or to some extent before, the 23rd, when the full lockdown started.” This, in effect, means that “the virus” infection rate was dropping drastically BEFORE the incarceration of the population started and that the existing precautions – wash hands properly, coughing etiquette, stay at home if you feel ill – were effectively controlling the spread of “the virus”. It also means that the peak of the infections occurred PRIOR to the population incarceration commenced and as the average time from catching “the virus” to death has been widely stated as 23 days with the peak numbers of deaths occurring approximately 10-14 days from commencement of the… Read more »

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago

Great video
12 Reasons not to Mandate Masks
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/behind-the-masks/

“It is no longer about health or science but it became political. The establishment wants to convince us to wear masks because personally wearing a mask psychologically cements in the person this idea that we live in a world where there are dangerous viral pathogens and that the only way you can be protected is to accept that the state is going to control your life and is going to give you vaccines. It is fear based. It is a frenzy, its like a call to war. It is irrational.”

— Prof Denis Rancourt PhD —

Jay Berger
Jay Berger
5 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Agree.
And I also think that wearing masks and SD are really omly implemented to squash face to face conversations, particularly in groups, to prevent any dissent from coming up and spreading untraceable and uncontrollable.

Farinances
Farinances
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Berger

I really agree with you. I’m not on board with the whole Agenda Whateveritis stuff, but I am on board with the fact that people are trying to make lots of money, in perpetuity, from ‘obligatory’ annual strain-based vaccination for every common ailment (flu, cold, eventually vomiting bugs etc.) A jab for everything you could possibly catch. No more illness. Ever. (In theory, because nature always finds a way).

Anything natural that butts up against this idea must be suppressed until it can be implemented. That includes people talking about what a scam Covid is.

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

Will Boris’s war on obesity succeed?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcast/will-boris-s-war-on-obesity-succeed-

Also on the podcast: when is normality going to return, and are anti-vaxxers ‘nuts’?

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

SV40 – no.

Cbird
Cbird
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

Truly depressing. They should be ashamed

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

I posted yesterday

We absolutely cannot trust any nutrition advice by the Government. They still use the outdated food pyramid. At the bottom of the pyramid they recommend that we stuff ourselves with a lot of carbohydrates. They even recommend low fat diets that have been debunked. We need good quality fats in our diet and good quality proteins (the building blocks of our bodies).

We are all different and our bodies react differently to different foods – it is not as simple as calories in and out. Some people are very sensitive to carbohydrates and gain weight weight quickly.

The Government’s war on obesity is therefore a red herring

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Or yet more opportunism from the seed companies, the frankenmeat manufacturers and the makers of artificial sweeteners.

Dave Tee
Dave Tee
5 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

The Govt has no intention of conducting a war on obesity. Obesity, and the diabetes it invariably leads to, are good for the economy. Cheap junk-starch makes megabucks for PepsiNabiscoKelloggCorp, then when we get sick the medical and pharmaceutical industries step in – generating employment for doctors and nurses, and a lot of profit for Glazo & co. Obesity is good for the politicans too, because sick, dependant people are in no position to challenge them or hold them to account.

If you’re waiting for the authorities to make you healthy then you’ll be waiting a long time. I’ve been low-carb for a decade now. I’m 62, no illness, no tablets, and I wiegh ten stone zero. You’ve got to do it for yourself – fatso Johnson ain’t gonna help.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Tee

That’s it. I eat plenty of fresh green vegetables, meat, fish or eggs, with the occasional week when I eat only soft fruit. I avoid (but have not completely cut out) complex carbs such as bread, potatoes, and pasta, and any chocolate I eat is min 70% cocoa. I avoid processed sugar like the plague.

PS Gents, I recommend broccoli for good prostate health.

Dave Tee
Dave Tee
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

You’ve got it, Nick. Stay with it mate.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Why the fruit weeks? Fructose fest!

MiriamW
MiriamW
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave Tee

The OH (other half) and I are low carb too. I can thoroughly recommend it. Intermittent fasting is also good. We both have health issues (cancer, asthma) but despite that we’re actually in very good nick at 67 and 71, pretty slim and we are keeping as fit as we possibly can so we can stay out of the hands of big pharma and the ‘health professionals’.

In my opinion you’ve got the politics right too. There’s big money to be made from keeping everyone fat and ill. We’re now in the interesting situation that , as people become increasingly poor, they will only be able to afford junk food. Tax that and we’re looking at mass starvation. Our perception is that people really have got fatter during the Lock-up (apart from the manic cyclists!)

So, it’s really just another psyop. Make it seem as if they really care about our health and well-being as they take away everything that makes life worth living and destroy communication between us.

Dave Tee
Dave Tee
5 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

Thanks for your comment, Miriam and good health to you and your OH with your low carb regime. Your politics is spot-on, too! There’s a correlation between lower incomes and obesity, for the reason you have explained. So the lockdown is going inevitably to lead to more obesity – yet another negative result of the current nonsense.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

They love to come up with one size fits all directives. A waste of time and a waste of taxpayer monies.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Those directives are a goldmine for those businesses who profit from them.

mjr
mjr
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

the government have been doing wonders for obesity so far this year . All those kids not at school and not participating in sports and P.E ( for those schools that still do it) and sitting at home eating junk food .. Same goes for many of the parents.
Unfortunately a proportion of the population are feckless and stupid and will eat junk food. Many say they cannot afford decent food…. but what they are saying is they cannot be bothered to spend time cooking a meal and sitting at a table to eat it. And they think that removing adverts for junk food before the watershed will stop this? If that was the case then i would eat my horse (with vegetables – healthy and nutritious)

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  mjr

Doesn’t sound too healthy for your horse though…

drrobin
drrobin
5 years ago

Good read as ever, Toby.

Unperturbed by Toby’s store debacle, would anyone else like to see more great pieces of great art available as T-shirts & Tote-bags – a great addition to attire for any sane non-mask wearers?

I do so wish more artists and their publishers could be persuaded to marketing such merchandise to spread sane messages a little wider.

These are my 2 favourites – has anyone else others to recommend?

Bob (Telegraph):
https://www.bobmoran.co.uk/shop-originals-2020/250720

Luca D’Urbino (Economist):
https://www.behance.net/gallery/94567475/The-Economist-Cover-Big-State
 
 

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

London Underground closer to capacity at weekends as people look to ‘break monotony’ of staying home

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/24/london-underground-closer-capacity-weekends-people-look-break/

Mark
5 years ago

I find I can no longer watch or listen to Johnson. The anger that boils up is simply too uncomfortable. Like Blair or Cameron after their wars of choice, he has become worse than dead to me. At least in the case of Blair he was nominally a leader of the political “other side”, for me. The betrayal by supposed “conservative” leaders has been by far the more damaging, because it means there is nowhere left to turn, politically. “So Boris is (sort of) admitting that he should have imposed a lockdown earlier, even though he shouldn’t, and claiming the reason he didn’t is because he hadn’t realised back then that scientists studying the disease wrongly assumed asymptomatic transmission was a key driver of the pandemic, even though every man and his dog thought that back in March. However, he has now embraced this assumption – just when we have good reason to doubt it – and is now fully prepared for the next wave, i.e. the Government will repeat the same mistake it made in March and indiscriminately lock up the sick as well as the healthy this winter.” A pretty good assessment of the personal qualities of the… Read more »

IanE
IanE
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Absolutely with you on that, Mark. He is indeed one of the growing list of PMs through my life that I would like to cancel!

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Same goes here for the USA presidents.
Can’t bear to watch or listen to ANY of them.
Since 1980, Reagan election.
Nixon was a Cicero compared to what followed.

Ethelred the Unready
5 years ago
Reply to  IanE

I had such high hopes of him, now dashed on the rocks of uselessness…

sue
sue
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

likewise mark – i can’t listen to the bloke – he just spouts soundbites in that irritating bumbling eerr errr hhmmm hmmm and patronising manner – it’s highly irritating and raises my blood pressure too much.
He has a very over inflated ego, self-belief and arrogance and is so characteristic of the public school elites who look down on the little people. Reminds me of the generals in the WW1 who were so out of their depth and experience and ignorantly sent thousands to their deaths with no shame.

I kind of went along with his election bumblings with the positive spin etc … but this shitshow i cannot listen to him or any government minister with their diabolic spin on it – they must think we’re flippin idiots!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  sue

Unfortunately, with respect to a huge chunk of the population, they are right!

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It is his version of the Weapons of Mass Destruction … Programmes subtle (but not so subtle) nudge. He needs to be at The Hague for what he has done to his fellow citizens.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
5 years ago

I hear that Nuremberg has an empty diary . . .

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

He’s more muddled than Winnie the Pooh.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

How dare you.I happen to think Winnie the Pooh would make an excellent Prime Minister. Especially given the competition.

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

I agree. Pooh would say ‘bother’ and go searching for a pot of hunny. Boris would probably say ‘bother’ and pass a law banning hunny.

Last year I bought hundreds of Pooh/Piglet/Tigger/Eeyore stickers on Amazon, stuffed them in my Winnie the Pooh tote bag and gave them away to children walking down the street with their mothers, on buses, nursery schools, etc. I put them on bus shelter adverts, lamp posts, here there and everywhere. I was a self-appointed Pooh propagandist. Whenever I crossed the street at an intersecition I made sure that Pooh’s face was facing the vehicles waiting for the light to change. Several times last year a child would get on the bus I was riding, see my bag and exclaim ‘it’s Pooh Bear! This year I would have been thrown off the bus and taken into custody for endangering the lives of the chiiiiillllldren.

etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
etgttghetheth4th4ht4eh
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Hope you sent some to China, encourage the locals to rise up against their dictators. The evil piece of work running that totalitarian state is said to look like to Pooh (and get very angry when the comparison is presented), not odd that Boris should be the same as Jinping in this respect, as well as all the ways he’s signed away our rights.

xplod
xplod
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Is this the real Boris? Or do we have a “doppelganger” put in place by the Deep State when the real Boris was “ill” with coronavirus. Asking for a friend!

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

Luton’s mayor broke lockdown rules as town’s coronavirus infections surged

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/24/lutons-mayor-broke-lockdown-rules-towns-coronavirus-infections/

AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

On the one hand, good for him exercising his own judgement on the other hand another example of a “do as I say but not as I do politician”.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

He’s a very naughty boy! Yawn.
Is this news, or a load of scandalmongering that’s past its sell-by date?
They’re scraping the bottom of the barrel – or is Luton next in the firing line for a local lockdown?

Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

They could save time and trouble by just locking down the mayor.
Note: Luton, like Leicester, is very very Effnick.

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

Hopes for ‘game-changer’ coronavirus antibody test sinking fast | News | The Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hopes-for-game-changer-coronavirus-antibody-test-sinking-fast-cd06fwc7j

IanE
IanE
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

Now there’s a surprise!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

It doens’t matter any more because they’re going to put “it” into the flu jab.

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago

Coronavirus testing may end travel quarantine | News | The Times

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-testing-may-end-travel-quarantine-39v38qfmc

IanE
IanE
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

wrong place

HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago
HawkAnalyst
HawkAnalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

Enough moaning about masks. The wartime generation would think we were babies
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/07/25/enough-moaning-masks-wartime-generation-would-think-babies/

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

The wartime generation here think this is stupid and “a lot of nonsense” they also think they should carry on as normal looking after themselves and being careful. Which is exactly what they do.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  HawkAnalyst

Brave, brave Sweden. Such a shame Anders Tegnell isn’t our Chief Scientist.

Paul
5 years ago

I posted this on yesterdays page before I realised today’s was out,sorry if you’ve already seen it ! I was surprised to be asked why I didn’t have a mask on when I went in my local takeaway last night,they have always been sceptical of all the CV crap and I told them that I would never wear a mask when we were talking a couple of weeks ago.The conversation went, ‘sorry,you need a mask‘. ‘no,I am exempt’ ‘oh,okay,exempt,didn’t know about exemptions,why are you exempt ?‘, ‘I don’t have to give you a reason or proof of a reason’ ‘Okay,that’s fine with us,no problem‘ To be fair to them they weren’t pushy and I have known them quite a while so,afterwards,even though I didn’t need to,I did explain my genuine health reason for not wearing a mask as well as my conscientious objection to being forcibly muzzled and I did show them the exemption card I had in my pocket. They were very interested as they didn’t know much about exemptions and how to react to someone who claims exemption,in fact it turns out one of the chaps wives has a severe disability and has been struggling badly with wearing… Read more »

Hopeful
Hopeful
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Had a telephone conversation with my hairdresser yesterday about her policy of mandatory masks for clients. Salon decided to adopt face nappies because to paraphrase, if we have to wear visors to protect you, it’s only right that you wear a mask to protect us. Undaunted I continued. I am exempt I said. Oh in that case just prove it and you can come in. How do I prove it I asked. The reply was get a letter from your doctor or something. The rest of the conversation is irrelevant to the main points. These being the ignorance displayed by the salon re the efficacy of masks, and the arrogance to think they have a right to demand proof. So much for being a valued customer!

Emma
Emma
5 years ago
Reply to  Hopeful

I was told by my local Toni and Guy place (a couple of weeks ago) that it was company policy that customers must wear masks. I said I didn’t want to, but they insisted. After four months of my 19 year old son cutting my hair, I needed a haircut badly so I complied. But I later contacted the head office and was told this:
Thank you for your email.
 
I can confirm you will not be refused service if you choose not to wear the mask provided however, we do encourage our clients to wear the face masks we provide, this is to ensure the Health and Safety of our clients and staff members.
 
If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.
 
Kind Regards
 
Danielle
TONI&GUY Client Care

Since masks are not required in hairdressers under the new regs I look forward to going back for my next appointment and enlightening the manager there.

Basics
Basics
5 years ago
Reply to  Emma

Visors are a hoot. I saw a hairdresser cutting the fringe of a customer. Customer in chair. Hairdresser standing behind and reaching over the top of the customer to cut/fiddle with fringe – normal and typical. Every breath the hairdresser exhaled was funnelled onto the head and shoulders of the customer.

Goof old customer was happily unaware ‘safe’ behind their mask.

Steve
Steve
5 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Which was probably also funneling the customers breath back towards the hairdresser…

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Wow, the government have told the truth about this, no doubt to cover their posteriors, but the council are downright liars!

HelzBelz
5 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Had to fill car up today. Had no mask (obviously!). 2 other people maskless out of 5 went into pay without a mask, plus me of course. No questions asked, no interest shown. Man behind perspex screen was sporting a mask. 2 blokes stacking shelves – one with who mask at all and the other with his round his neck!

Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Use pay at pump. Pump doesn’t give an oil fart what you are wearing.

Awkward Git
5 years ago

Found this article that quotes a 2018 article on the link between mask wearing and blood clots:

https://thefreedomarticles.com/hypoxia-blood-clot-connection-study-cdc-who-study/

Tenchy
Tenchy
5 years ago

A depressing article if ever there was one:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/24/the-masks-are-everywhere-today-englands-shoppers-finally-cover-up

Pretty much one-sided, as you would expect from The Guardian (glad to see everyone in Stratford had got the “memo”).

Awkward Git
5 years ago
Reply to  Tenchy

Propaganda and psychological warfare increasing daily in leaps and bounds.

AngloWelshDragon
5 years ago

Are that LDS emails still going out? I haven’t had one for days.

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago

yes

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

Yes

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago

Went to local supermarkets yesterday – Waitrose, Tesco, Aldi. Not a word spoken, no problems at all. A couple of ‘Please wear a face covering’ posters. Gel/mask lady at Tesco, but optional. Queue at Aldi, fairly busy, Waitrose/Tesco quieter than normal. A few people without masks in Waitrose and Tesco; none in Aldi – was a very brief visit though.

I overheard (was possibly meant to) one woman in Waitrose asking ‘But I thought everyone had to wear a mask ?’. Response was good, not if they are exempt, we’re not allowed to ask them.

Pubs in the evening – asked to leave one, more later – 2nd pub great, paid cash at bar , then Harveys, outside, handshakes, ciggies, much hilarity. 🙂

Haircut this morning, barber wore visor, didn’t do full beard trim just the edges, otherwise fine.

Noticeably more mask-wearing in public. It is hard to think of suitable treatment for those who put them on children. 🙁

Clive Illman
Clive Illman
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Quite agree re children. There are some f**king idiots out there.

Lockdown Truth
5 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Roughly what part of the country are you in?

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Truth

Sussex, near Lewes.

Newmill Mark
Newmill Mark
5 years ago

When, eventually, the hysteria dies down and the people wake up and survey the wreckage I think Boris will be seen as a tragic figure, as well as a clown.  Despite his obvious and plentiful flaws he had an unlikely but clear opportunity to act like his beloved Churchill – he could have followed his first, correct, instinct to “be like Sweden” and emerge as a hero who took a decision that was unpopular with the masses (remember appeasement was the clear will of the country at the time) but completely vindicated by events.  But as we know that requires character, strength of will and any number of other qualities that the despicable charlatan lacks.

Awkward Git
5 years ago

Can’t remember if this website has been posted on here before so I’ll put it on anyway just in case:

https://evidencenotfear.com/evidence/

Clive Illman
Clive Illman
5 years ago

Opening words from the BBC website a couple of days ago evening:

“There is now almost no excuse for not wearing a face mask while out shopping in England – covering your face is as essential as remembering your cash or bank card.”

not the government – the BBC. But is there a difference?

“excuse” is very telling: it puts us in the role of misbehaving children who can be punished; 

“reason” would be a better word, but that would put us in the role of thinking adults capable of presenting sensible arguments. Not desirable. 

Government proposes – BBC disposes. This is the most shockingly open expression of the BBC’s totalitarian instincts I’ve yet seen.

Mark
5 years ago

The Four Quadrants of Conformism

That’s an interesting essay, which for me represents a(n apparent) leftist beginning to have to come to terms with the consequences of the more or less complete triumph of the left and its transformation into the ruling elite and the ruling dogma, over the past few centuries (gaining speed throughout so that most of the visible movement has been in the past few decades).

Just as conservatives struggle to work out how to address a situation in which society has been changed so radically that there is nothing left to conserve, so radicals struggle when the nominal radicals are in fact the entrenched elites suppressing dissent from their dogmas.

This doesn’t mean that, as many like to claim, left and right are no longer relevant. These terms represent profoundly significant and fundamental aspects of human nature, and of beliefs about some of the basic aspects of reality. but it certainly complicates their application in practice.

Barney McGrew
Barney McGrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That’s excellent. Many thanks.

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We have lived through a PC revolution in our times. It has similarities with some other revolutions in mass consciousness e.g. the switch from Georgian creativity and openness to stifling Victorian prudery, the Maoist cultural revolution (so hating of the past) and the Protestant Reformation (far
More and destructive than most people realise).

Felice
Felice
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

And to that collection of revolutions I would add the islamic revolution since 1979, when fundamentalist islam started to throw its weight around. The middle east is unrecognisable now compared with 30 years ago.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Excellent.
Bari Weiss of the NYT, apparently admired by Toby Young, is an aggressive conformist type:

“[4] There has been progress in one area: the punishments for talking about banned ideas are less severe than in the past. There’s little danger of being killed, at least in richer countries. ***The aggressively conventional-minded are mostly satisfied with getting people fired***.’

Weiss has gotten a lot of people fired. Her own “self-firing” is some kind of stunt—a lateral career move of some kind, to get into a position at a difference “influence silo” than the NYT.

BTW, there seem to be very few USA-ians here at LS. This is surprising.

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Don’t forget a “conservative” in Russia is a dyed-in-the-wool unapologetic Stalinist.

Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

Not necessarily. There are plenty of conservatives who are also authoritarian and in Russia they often do hark back to Stalinist times, but more commonly a conservative in Russia is a Christian.